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Title: Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 15, 2006, 08:08:02 AM
After seeing the Mii character creator, I must say this concept would be the best concept ever.

The first company that uses the Mii models for characters in a first person shooter of any kind, wins my money.

Imagine being able to create your character and play online.  Guns can float in people hands like Tennis racks do...and the best part is everyone will know who they are.

But the idea becomes bigger than that.  Say you created 25-100 Mii characters on your system.  They can actually pull those characters into the single player game as villians and such.  So walking around you happen to be surprised that the boss of level one is you Mom!!!  OOPS, I guess you should have done your homework.

If Nintendo wanted to do this game, they wouldn't have to make it violent.  It could be backyard war, or Backyard paintball.

Better yet, remember my idea about the FPS in the Nintendo universe, these graphics although simple, would work in a colorful action shooter like that.  And would bring you further into the game.

Who is with me on this one?

Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Kairon on September 15, 2006, 08:13:06 AM
Oh...friggin...hell...populate your own games...friggin hell...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 15, 2006, 09:05:46 AM
Dude, thats a pretty cool idea I like it. The Mii characters are cool, they have character. People are complaining that there is no face mapping, but I don't like that as much. The Mii's are like a cool little digital represntation of yourself. I like the idea Spak maybe Nintendo has some similar idea on the back burner, theyd have my money no doubt.  
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 15, 2006, 09:06:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Oh...friggin...hell...populate your own games...friggin hell...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com




Was this a positive or negative remark?

I still think it is brilliant.  Nintendo could even offer special downloads of Reggie and Nintendo crew.

Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: ShyGuy on September 15, 2006, 09:56:20 AM
More like Columbine simulator of death, amirite?
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: JonLeung on September 15, 2006, 10:32:27 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
So walking around you happen to be surprised that the boss of level one is you Mom!!!  OOPS, I guess you should have done your homework.
No, YOUR MOM.  LOL.

When I first read that I thought you meant the final boss.  That would be funny.

Incidentally, my mom's name when anagrammed comes out to "Urban Legend".  No joke.  That would be neat if she was a boss.

These Miis are neat, I almost wonder if I'll end up wasting time just making a whole bunch just because I can.  The fact that they can be used in games makes it even more awesome.

Too bad they don't have a few more details like clothes, though.  If I try to remake Ada Wong - without a dress! - she might just look like any other Asian woman (without a dress).

 
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 15, 2006, 10:45:11 AM
There are obivous limitations to the system...but I would want this game to be simple...like the Wii Sports games.  Perhaps just run and shoot. gameplay.
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Kairon on September 15, 2006, 11:01:18 AM
Awesome.

What about a Mii Theme Park?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: vudu on September 15, 2006, 11:16:16 AM
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Incidentally, my mom's name when anagrammed comes out to "Urban Legend". No joke. That would be neat if she was a boss.
My name anagrams to Brave screwed, mad joke.  How odd.  I'm not quite sure what to make of that.
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 15, 2006, 11:23:36 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
Incidentally, my mom's name when anagrammed comes out to "Urban Legend".  No joke.  That would be neat if she was a boss.

Didn't Brenda teach you not to give out personal information to strangers on the Internet?  (just a guess and a joke, of course)

I predict that on launch day, I will waste all of my time playing around with the Miis and lose my opportunity to get deeply involved with Zelda until the next weekend.  Oh, and I vote for Wii Sports Paintball with a level editor.  Guaranteed hit.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 15, 2006, 02:33:18 PM
A Mii Sims game would be great.  Create a City, populate it.

A Theme Park thing would be cool.

Basically the maker of any Sims game should just use the Mii characters for in game characters.

Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: ShyGuy on September 15, 2006, 02:42:37 PM
Mii Spore will blow our minds.
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Darkheart on September 15, 2006, 04:54:19 PM
I think Mii will represent us in Animal crossing . . . .
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Viewtiful mario on September 15, 2006, 05:44:21 PM
Animal crossing would work well with it, maby even A mario sports game (didn't mario golf have human characters?)

See THIS kind of things is what the $250 is paying for, and people wouldn't be able to fully expereance it if it didn't come with Wii sports.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Caliban on September 15, 2006, 06:24:36 PM
I can't believe no one has mentioned it, one Mii (most likely your own Mii) to be playable in SSBB.
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 15, 2006, 06:51:49 PM
Caliban and SSBB FTW!

I hope Animal Crossings multiplayer has common areas where everyone's Mii can mingle and collect stuff and have events etc etc. It was definitely something I wanted in the DS version. Animal Crossing has huge potential especially with the incorporation of this Mii stuff. I really hope Nintendo takes use of whats on the table.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: KDR_11k on September 15, 2006, 10:10:46 PM
Who are Mii?

Wait, no, that doesn't work.
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Kairon on September 15, 2006, 10:36:47 PM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
I can't believe no one has mentioned it, one Mii (most likely your own Mii) to be playable in SSBB.


Win.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 16, 2006, 07:02:47 AM
Oh man. A Mii shooter would be amazing. It could be cheap and distributed through the VC too.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 16, 2006, 08:05:55 AM
Dirk:  Yeah it would remind me of Faceball 2000, except much cooler.  Simple game that has an addictive charm and gameplay.

As for Mii characters available in SSBB, I love that idea, but truly how feasable is that idea?
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Kairon on September 16, 2006, 08:48:47 AM
All a Mii is is a face, shirt color, height and width. Easy to just copy paste those attributes to a universal polygon-esque character... OMG! Polygon characters will be replaced! Or... Polygons will have a brutal showdown against Miis!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 16, 2006, 08:54:41 AM
Ahahaha, thinking of Super Smash Brothers, I thought of the Polygon Team that you fight...Instead of the Polygon team you'll fight the Mii Team!
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: 18 Days on September 16, 2006, 09:04:26 AM
I heard that fighting maiming and killing caricatures of people you know is frowned upon.
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: EasyCure on September 16, 2006, 03:23:58 PM
and sadly thats why the gameboy camera face mapping was never used in PD ::sad::

yet since his is a caricature and not an actual photo that was face mapped, there must be some sort of legal loop hole that makes it okay
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: King of Twitch on September 16, 2006, 08:58:26 PM
Wasn't there some rule on Star Trek against recreating people on the holodeck without their permission? Have we not learned from history?
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 17, 2006, 12:58:52 AM
Hmm how about a Wii Snowball fight where you could set up a base made of snow and launch snow like crazy!  Or water balloon fight in a city street like that 360 commercial.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Ceric on September 17, 2006, 08:48:46 PM
I won't fault them for not having Face Mapping.  I will fault them on not having different clothes or different color pants.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: RickPowers on September 18, 2006, 12:22:51 PM
Wii Nerf Wars.  See, now you have a valuable license you can even attach to it.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 18, 2006, 12:50:31 PM
That would be cool.  With Nerf, you could have weapon pickups.  All the fun of pistols, shotguns, and sniper rifles, but with safe, family-friendly foam darts and suction cups.

You could also do that with Super Soaker.  Then the "substantial pumping" could be done with the Nunch[aku|uc?k].
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 19, 2006, 07:11:30 AM
You guys are just asking for a lawsuit.

http://pc.ign.com/objects/012/012982.html
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: KDR_11k on September 19, 2006, 09:12:18 AM
Nerf already had an arena shooter. Nerf Arena Blast was derived from Unreal Tournament. I liked it but apparently most people don't.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 19, 2006, 09:18:10 AM
I beat you to it KDR. =D
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: ThePerm on September 19, 2006, 09:41:25 AM
i've basically had a mii character for years now. I originally designed him by hand in flash, then i found that cool avatar generator website and used that. Mii is basically the same thign as that avatar generator website...just in 3d and your Mii does things with your Wii
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Kairon on September 19, 2006, 09:48:39 AM
Hmmm....what about... Mii Olympics?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 19, 2006, 10:43:09 AM
Mii Olympics would be great as an online game.  Really fun simple gameplay.

The only thing is Wii Sports could easily fill that gap for simple sports games.

Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Kairon on September 19, 2006, 10:48:16 AM
Can you imagine if Nintendo got the olympics license? Hmmm....

This makes sense because moving the olympics into a realistic standpoint is ridiculously difficult since it's practically forced into a mini-game set-up. Too many art assets. Better to make it friendly and fun and develop it cheaper and sell it cheaper for a mass market.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: KDR_11k on September 19, 2006, 11:45:08 AM
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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
I beat you to it KDR. =D


Oh, with that comment I figured you linked to some article summarizing a lawsuit against students who used pictures of their teachers for the enemies in Doom. I don't like giving page views to IGN just to see where the link leads to.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 19, 2006, 06:33:27 PM
I really like the Nerf idea...but that can't be done.  Perhaps a generic "nerf like" guns and battle system would still be managable.  What I like about Nerf is that each gun has strange quirks you could build into aiming and the balance of weapons.  As well ammo is very limited...as in most guns only hold like 6 shots each, yet the strategy of picking up balls and darts shot on the field and reloading on the fly would be awesome.  Also the idea that ammo is limited, and if too many people are using the same weapon it might be better to switch to another weapon.

The game could have 3 weapon types.  Darts, Missles, and Balls.  Other consideration could be Waterballoons for grenades.  The game could be call.  Mii Backyard Wars.

Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: KDR_11k on September 19, 2006, 08:54:24 PM
Shells, Nails, Rockets, Cells. Worked for the oldest shooters out there, will work for Shoot Mii.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: AnyoneEB on September 20, 2006, 06:49:25 AM
Spak-Spang: That would be interesting simply because limited ammo is a large part of the gameplay in Nerf. (Ex. if you are low on darts you want to trick your enemy into shooting at you so you can pick up the ammo.) I know when I play with my friends, we always lose a lot of ammo and towards the end we have games where most people do not have much ammo past enough to load their weapons. I wonder if there is a Half Life [2]/other FPS mod like that...
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 20, 2006, 07:40:11 AM
Heh.

http://mods.moddb.com/253/nerfwar/

Older than dirt. I couldn't find anything else, but I'll keep looking.
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 20, 2006, 07:46:20 AM
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Originally posted by: AnyoneEB
Spak-Spang: That would be interesting simply because limited ammo is a large part of the gameplay in Nerf. (Ex. if you are low on darts you want to trick your enemy into shooting at you so you can pick up the ammo.) I know when I play with my friends, we always lose a lot of ammo and towards the end we have games where most people do not have much ammo past enough to load their weapons. I wonder if there is a Half Life [2]/other FPS mod like that...




Exactly.  I am tired of the FPSers and such being all the same.  Even if they add to the gameplay and experience, it is either real World type play, futuristic war, or historic.  Something unique and playful would be a nice change.

And you can create some crazy an fun levels.  Different house designs, forts, backyards/neighborhoods, and so on.  
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: zakkiel on September 20, 2006, 10:14:23 AM
Meaning it's either set in the present, the past, or the future?

But seriously, I like the idea of a truly wacky fps. My version would have absolutely no weapons that did damage. Instead, they would do things like reverse gravity, cause you to exchange places with people, reflect other attacks, shove people backwards, make people attract nearby objects, etc. Your starting weapon would be: nothing but your hands, which you could use to throw things at people. The idea would be to use cleverness and the level itself in order to kill people.

Somewhat OT: did anyone ever play the Wheel of Time game? It's only now, looking back on it, that I realize how innovative and unusual it was as a concept. I think something like it on the Wii, using gesture-recognition rather than 40 tabbed weapons, could be a major success.
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: JonLeung on September 20, 2006, 10:47:39 AM
Anyone else notice that Miis is backwards of Siim?  Hmmmm?
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 20, 2006, 10:51:03 AM
Zakkiel:  I understand what you mean...but you have to admit you understand what I mean.

Pretty much all FPSers are becoming the same with a few key exceptions.

1)Vehicle combat is now standard
2)Weapons are always the same.  Rockets, Guns, Knives, ect.  
3)The exact same game modes.

In the end, modern FPSers are judged by the quality of team combat, and online gaming...and the feel of the weapons and movement in the 3D arena.  

I do like your idea for a wacky combat game.  It is almost a game of traps rather than war which is pretty cool.

The thing about using Toys is the game becomes non violent, and can attract all age groups.  At the same time, using toys also brings a very different unique kind of physics for the game.  A good physics engine would have to be created for the balls, darts, and missle attacks.  In away the game could feel like playing Worms in a FPS environment.  

You could open up the battles to be won by judgements not just by hitting people.  And including a few water gun weapons could be fun too.  Specially when you consider you have to pump air pressure for some guns to work, and refilling takes more time.  

Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: JonLeung on October 06, 2006, 08:47:32 AM
I was reminded of this topic when I read this:
Nerf-based WiiPointer?

That seems to refer to a cushy WiiPointer rather than anything else, but still.  Though I wonder how well a third-party WiiPointer would work...
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: couchmonkey on October 06, 2006, 09:02:06 AM
That's a really cool idea!  I don't know what Nintendo's policy is, but if I were in Nintendo's shoes, I'd give these guys the specs for the pointer part of the controller for the LARGE, DELICIOUS liscencing fees.  This Nerf product obviously isn't targetting the traditional Wii controller market anyway.
Title: RE:Mii Shooter
Post by: JonLeung on October 06, 2006, 09:08:02 AM
Back on topic, I recall one of those Nintendo interviews a few days ago (don't have the link at the moment) where someone mentioned that some Miis you create could be found as random spectators in WiiSports.  So they've already got some ideas about taking your Miis and sticking them in games just for the fun of it.

To that end, I may make a whole bunch of Miis even if they don't represent real people that would be playing Wii games.  Like celebrities, fictional characters, etc.  Though I guess it's limited in that they don't have clothing options.  Shucks.  You can't have ninjas and pirates if you don't have ninja hoods or pirate hats.  >_<  But maybe Samuel L. Jackson will be in my Mii Square after all.
Title: RE: Mii Shooter
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 06, 2006, 06:28:17 PM
I really like the idea of Miis from other people popping up everywhere.  You know some people are going to go crazy and make Miis of every celebrity they can.  It will be cool to see different people pop up in your games.  I can't wait to see what Wii Sports 2 brings and other Wii titles bring as well to the table.