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Title: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Bloodworth on September 13, 2006, 07:37:08 PM
The news on US price, date, and more has already hit the papers.

Seattle Post-Intelligencer has already posted details from The New York Times regarding the Wii announcement to be made later today.    


Wii is set to launch in North and South America on November 19th, at a price of $250. By year end, twenty-five to thirty games are slated to be released, and Nintendo plans to ship 4 million consoles worldwide.    


Wii Sports will be packaged with the console, including tennis, golf, baseball, and (previously unannounced) bowling and boxing.    


As stated before, Nintendo does not intend to charge more than $50 for their own titles.  About thirty virtual console games will be available for download when Wii launches, and these will cost $5 to $10 each.    


Most surprising is that the Wii will have various media channels, including interactive news and weather channels, and a channel to view photos.  The article reconfirms Wii can be used as a web browser as well.    


"Our goal is to bring gaming back to the masses," Reggie Fils-Aime, president and chief operating officer of Nintendo of America, said in a telephone interview. "You see that in our pricing, you see that in the number of units we plan to make available this year and you see that in how we are positioning the Wii to appeal to every member of the household, including but not limited to the hard-core gamer."    


We'll have much more information on Wii's launch and updated impressions on many games from tomorrow's press event in New York City.

Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Jensen on September 13, 2006, 07:53:21 PM
They had already told us that it would be released before Thanksgiving.  They usually launch new consoles on Sundays.  They said the price would be less than $250.

So they went with the latest possible date with the highest possible price, given the limitations they set.... why didn't they just tell us before?  Nothing suprising here....
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Crimm on September 13, 2006, 07:57:42 PM
I figured Wii Sports was a pack-in, bu I'm glad to see I was right.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 13, 2006, 08:02:02 PM
I agree, nothing too surprising.  The media channel stuff is neat but not mind-blowing (on the other hand, I applaud Nintendo for embracing "alternate uses" of its console).  I guess they're figuring hey, since Microsoft isn't lowering the price of 360, there's no sense in pricing the Wii at less than $250.  They included Wii Sports, just like I thought.  I wonder if you get two Wiimotes for that price tag?  I hope you do, because then the $250 price is justified.  If not, that's a little bit of price gouging on their part.

Wii+2 controllers+Wii Sports = $250 is totally reasonable to me.
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: mmortal03 on September 13, 2006, 08:05:08 PM
The article in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer is reporting on a story from the New York Times, FYI.  Gamespot and IGN have "breaking news" type stories referencing the same articles.

I like that Wii Sports will be packed along with it.

The price makes sense.  They have released every console in the past for 199.95, however this comes with a game and inflation, so 249.95 is still definitely worth it.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: denjet78 on September 13, 2006, 08:05:28 PM
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Originally posted by: Silks
Wii+2 controllers+Wii Sports = $250 is totally reasonable to me.


Agreed. I've always thought that they needed to pack two controllers in with it. Besides, what's the point of packing in a multiplayer game (Wii Tennis specifically) if you're not going to be able to play it?

Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: stevey on September 13, 2006, 08:07:35 PM
awesome!

Their are
65 day
23 hours
50 mins
5 secs

Till the wii launch!

KICK ASS!!!
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 08:07:49 PM
It's only 6 days from the release of the Burning Crusade expansion for WoW.

I might just wind up saving $250...
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Smadte on September 13, 2006, 08:12:10 PM
Too bad the console comes with a game I have no interest in, increasing the price about 30-50 bucks. I'd rather pay 250 with a game of my choice. 300 bucks for wii and one game I actually want is a bit steep.

Nothing surprising, actually a bit disappointing. Yawn.
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Pryopizm on September 13, 2006, 08:12:38 PM
I hope this also includes a classic remote for potential VC users.
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 08:15:46 PM
Horrible price. Horrible date.

They've come in below expectations. You don't set a ceiling and then go to the ceiling, you ALWAYS go below it.

Ugh. So disappointing.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 08:17:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Horrible price. Horrible date.

They've come in below expectations. You don't set a ceiling and then go to the ceiling, you ALWAYS go below it.

Ugh. So disappointing.


Yeah, the f*ckers basically gave us the date and price months ago...
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 08:18:30 PM
If it includes 2 controllers AND classic controller I'll feel a little better. Not to mention a VC download. Otherwise, this is crap. Total crap.

I also wont be buying ANY NES games at $5 a pop. Utterly ridiculous for what is essential at 99% profit margin.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: WindyMan on September 13, 2006, 08:20:55 PM
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Originally posted by: Smadte
Too bad the console comes with a game I have no interest in, increasing the price about 30-50 bucks. I'd rather pay 250 with a game of my choice. 300 bucks for wii and one game I actually want is a bit steep.


$250 to me seems a bit on the steep side for the console, especially since the 360 Core pack is only $50 more.  I would have prefered the system be $200 with scant pack-ins rather than $250 with the pack-ins...it's not that I wasn't going to be spending at least $300 on Wii launch day, but I would have liked it better to be buying two or three games with the console instead of just one.
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 08:22:24 PM
Yeah, MS could drop the price of the core by $50 and cost the same.

Shouldn't let MS get within range, IMO.
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Donutt007 on September 13, 2006, 08:24:08 PM
I'm calling HUGE BS!!!! Look at the thread in the Wii thread as to why. I do bring up some valid points.

When does something retail for $250?? More like $249.99.
The information for the seatle paper is from a NYtimes reporter.
The NY Times doesn't even have the information up yet.

It's GWN all over again!!!
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 13, 2006, 08:27:34 PM
THIS IS THE GAMEINFORMER WAY OF GAME JOURNALISM

ETERNAL DARKNESS ALL OVER AGAIN
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 08:31:00 PM
The page is now gone.
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 08:32:53 PM
LOL, either it was published earlier than they were supposed to, or somebody just got Joystiqued.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Jensen on September 13, 2006, 08:36:47 PM
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Originally posted by: mmortal03
The article in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer is reporting on a story from the New York Times, FYI.  Gamespot and IGN have "breaking news" type stories referencing the same articles.

I like that Wii Sports will be packed along with it.

The price makes sense.  They have released every console in the past for 199.95, however this comes with a game and inflation, so 249.95 is still definitely worth it.


To be fair, the Gamecube was at least $220-$230, because the memory card is a necessity.

I still think $199 with Wii Sports, or $179 without a game, would be a more reasonable price.

Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: mantidor on September 13, 2006, 08:37:08 PM
oh I didn't notice in the wii thread that the price for VC is going to be that high, I really don't know, maybe I won't mind paying $10 for say, Majora's Mask, but $5 for something like Tetris? I don't know.

Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 13, 2006, 08:41:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
It's only 6 days from the release of the Burning Crusade expansion for WoW.

I might just wind up saving $250...


So wait, you don't mind the date and the price? Didn't you say in a thread that the Wii needed to be released before the PS3 because it could get swallowed by the PS3 hype? I might be mistaken here...
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 13, 2006, 08:45:23 PM
I'm suspicious of this "news" since there is nothing about it on the NYT website about it.

Haha, it looks like the article has been pulled from the Seattle website.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 08:48:12 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64 So wait, you don't mind the date and the price? Didn't you say in a thread that the Wii needed to be released before the PS3 because it could get swallowed by the PS3 hype? I might be mistaken here...


My bank account has been dwindling from regular expenses. Been making me think harder about purchases like these...
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: TrueNerd on September 13, 2006, 08:50:35 PM
Somewhat disappointing. Still getting one, but I would have preferred getting it in late October and for $50 less.

And what's the deal with mid-November being a two week megaton of big releases? Doesn't it make a little sense to spread this sh*t out?  
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 13, 2006, 09:05:19 PM
You people are out of your minds.  When has a console been less than 200 dollars at launch, much less one packing a game in with it?  Get real.  250 dollars is reasonable, just not what you wanted.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 09:08:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
You people are out of your minds.  When has a console been less than 200 dollars at launch...


NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube...

And those were all incredibly advanced technology. Considering the Wii's tech the pack-in game should even it out, not increase it.
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: KDR_11k on September 13, 2006, 10:02:52 PM
This really sounds like they just took the Yen numbers and used a 100:1 ratio for converting, which is incorrect to begin with, never mind that game prices in the US are ALWAYS lower than in the rest of the world.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: IceCold on September 13, 2006, 10:10:27 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
This really sounds like they just took the Yen numbers and used a 100:1 ratio for converting, which is incorrect to begin with, never mind that game prices in the US are ALWAYS lower than in the rest of the world.
Well. Japan doesn't get Wii Sports..
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: King of Twitch on September 13, 2006, 11:01:56 PM
That photo interface and weather thingy is real nice, I like it. If Wii sports is included and remotes are $40 or less, Ill surely have to get an extra one.

And I noticed that the crucial price and date + bold text wasn't in the headline. Sounds fishy.
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Caliban on September 14, 2006, 02:44:05 AM
Sounds fishy to me also, we just have to wait and see when Reggie reveals our side of the truth.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Faithinchaos on September 14, 2006, 02:56:32 AM
You know people, you're all right, what an unfair price. This story is probably bogus, but seriously you're quite funny. I mean, the Wii doesn't really put anything in its plastic shell. Microsofts got stuff that needs FANS that still can't cut it, Sony's got stuff from TEH FUTURES OUTER SPACE!!1! By comparison Nintendo has practically NO graphics card or anything, right?

Or maybe everyone needs to look beyond the glowing tube to try to measure the expense incurred. I mean what, if not flashing pretty images, accurately represent quality? Because, you know, that gyroscopic technology thats had virtually NO previous consumer level implementation definately wasn't costly in R&D and new process manufacturing & fabrication. Nor the orientation technology, I mean, we've seen crap like that ALL OVER the place.

I would believe it if it this console strains Nintendo more than any previous they've put out. They're just putting their money where it belongs, however, and where nobody else has really bothered to before - the human interface devices, rather than simple processor upgrades.

Let me offer some evidence to this in the form of a quizlet. What are the two consoles, already released or pending release, that arent feasably emulatable?
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: BlkPaladin on September 14, 2006, 04:36:30 AM
The price is high but not that surprising, if it is true, we will comfirmation at the show but I wouldn't hold my breath. The VC prices were announced a while ago I don't have any problem with them. They could of went for $20/dl for the N64 games and people would of paid for them but they didn't. And they have to pay storage fees and recoop money from the free parts of there services, so the prices are not unreasonable. If you read the IGN article they go further and talk about the prices of the accesories. The Remote part of it will cost $40, the numchuk $20, and the classic controller $20. So the cost of the package is the controllers. Which is understandable since they had to redo the rumble technology and gyros so the gyros will not be affected by the rumble. (The R&D costs of redoing an already exsisting technology can be more than coming up with it in the first place.)

Plus the console is "cheeper" then the price in Japan, and we are getting it first again. Japan does not get Wii Sports and are paying $213.00 for the console. They are charging $40 for the title, so if you take some of the other posters logic we are only paying $210.00 for the console.

There hasn't been any announcment of a battery pack simular to the 360's but I'm sure if Nintendo doesn't do it someone like Nyko will have one.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: Arbok on September 14, 2006, 07:06:13 AM
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Originally posted by: BlkPaladin
Plus the console is "cheeper" then the price in Japan, and we are getting it first again. Japan does not get Wii Sports and are paying $213.00 for the console. They are charging $40 for the title, so if you take some of the other posters logic we are only paying $210.00 for the console.


That of course assumes you were going to buy Wii Sports in the first place... I for one had no intention.
Title: RE:Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 14, 2006, 08:27:36 AM
I very excited about this, the price is what I was expecting, these sort of details are the ones people always get let down about.  So I could care less, the only one that makes me nervous is the price of wiimotes and spare nunchucks at 40 dollars a wiimote and 20 dollars a nunchuck that is quite expensive.  But hell I am very satisfied with the price so far, and am excited to spend the next week deciding what to buy on launch :p.
Title: RE: Wii Details a Bit Early
Post by: wandering on September 14, 2006, 09:38:41 AM
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That of course assumes you were going to buy Wii Sports in the first place... I for one had no intention.

This is why I'm glad Wii Sports is being bundled. I'd hate to see hardcore gamers buy up the Wii and then not share the console with their non-gamer friends, as that would jeapordize the success of the console.