Post by: AnyoneEB on September 13, 2006, 07:32:08 PM
(Codename Revolution posted the link.)
Post by: Nile Boogie on September 13, 2006, 07:35:48 PM
Post by: Strell on September 13, 2006, 07:38:26 PM
Highest price possible?
Reggie telling some reporter over the phone?
Something seems VERY off here....
I mean, I'll get it at launch no big deal. But even I'll admit it seems highly priced.
Post by: decoyman on September 13, 2006, 07:40:00 PM
Maybe?
It does sound kind of official though, doesn't it...
Eh, I'm going to wait to hear officially from the press conference.
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 07:42:03 PM
Post by: Nile Boogie on September 13, 2006, 07:45:23 PM
Post by: Zach on September 13, 2006, 07:47:55 PM
Post by: joedick on September 13, 2006, 07:48:58 PM
edit: they didn't let it slip, the articles are dated for thurs, Sept 14
Post by: Strell on September 13, 2006, 07:59:18 PM
So must be true?
Post by: Crimm on September 13, 2006, 07:59:35 PM
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 08:00:30 PM
If true, it has to come with Wii Sports and, more importantly, 2 controllers.
Oh yeah, the VC prices seem wack, further casting doubt on this report. I mean 5 to 10$? NES games cant be 5$.
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 13, 2006, 08:01:06 PM
Post by: IceCold on September 13, 2006, 08:04:27 PM
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UPDATE 2: All the details from the Article above: 25 New Games would be available this year for the Wii. System will be bundled with WiiSports (Baseball, Golf, Bowling and Tennis). Excite Truck will launch this year, Mario not till 2007. 30 Classic Games to be available at launch from $5-10. Wii can display Digital Photos. News Channel and Weather Channel will be in the system.
Post by: mantidor on September 13, 2006, 08:12:23 PM
Post by: Donutt007 on September 13, 2006, 08:14:40 PM
Me thinks, Nintendo is setting us up for a surprise.
Also, the Seatle news is from the reporter of the NY Times. I think it's just the NY Times, trying to jump ahead and say they're first. This was probably "news" read "information" that they got awhile ago
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 08:15:59 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
Any word on the number of controllers included?
Yes this is key, at this price it has to be 2, otherwise what is the point of packing in Wii Sports if you have to go out and buy another controller to really be able to play that game?
I'm still not buying this coming from the main stream press. It sure would be hilarious to have every site have egg on their face for reporting this and then turning out not to be true.
Post by: Donutt007 on September 13, 2006, 08:21:11 PM
Some guy e-mailed the Seatle paper claiming to be Seth whatever his last name is, and the Seatle paper took the bait. It was probably someone from GWN...haha
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 13, 2006, 08:23:31 PM
Come on, guys, did you HONESTLY believe that Nintendo would launch the Wii at the end of October? To be blunt, that was nothing but a wet dream.
Think about it...
Rule dictates that a company always uses the month before a release to hype anything like crazy. If the Wii launch was indeed in october, that would have left them around 3 weeks to advertise and create national awareness of the console.
A November 19 launch would give them the time to advertise and hype the Wii like the second coming of Christ.
Post by: Kairon on September 13, 2006, 08:25:24 PM
I'd be sort of "eh" if it was 250 just standalone.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: BigJim on September 13, 2006, 08:26:00 PM
There's nothing we've seen (yet) that screams $250 on its own, IMO.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 08:29:10 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64
To be honest, I saw this coming.
Come on, guys, did you HONESTLY believe that Nintendo would launch the Wii at the end of October? To be blunt, that was nothing but a wet dream.
Think about it...
Rule dictates that a company always uses the month before a release to hype anything like crazy. If the Wii launch was indeed in october, that would have left them around 3 weeks to advertise and create national awareness of the console.
A November 19 launch would give them the time to advertise and hype the Wii like the second coming of Christ.
I never thought it would come out in October but I sure as heck didn't think it would come out on 19th where it will be overshadowed by PS3 and for 250$ too. I'm sorry but if this is true Nintendo has screwed up, and it will hurt them which is sad considering they were doing most everything right.
Post by: jasonditz on September 13, 2006, 08:31:02 PM
Either they leaked something they weren't supposed to or the author was full of crap.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 13, 2006, 08:32:36 PM
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Originally posted by: jasonditz
Seattle PI just pulled it.
Either they leaked something they weren't supposed to or the author was full of crap.
I was about to post this myself...
Kinda suspicious. I think they pulled it because it was taking heat away from Nintendo.
Post by: jasonditz on September 13, 2006, 08:34:47 PM
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 08:37:48 PM
Eat that, XBL Arcade!
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 08:37:55 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 13, 2006, 08:37:57 PM
GameCube was $200, and it came with jack squat other than the ability to play a gamecube game.
Post by: joedick on September 13, 2006, 08:39:06 PM
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I never thought it would come out in October but I sure as heck didn't think it would come out on 19th where it will be overshadowed by PS3 and for 250$ too.
Honestly it doesn't really matter which comes out first. There will be so few PS3s out there that the Wii will sell more regardless. It could come out in December and easily sell more.
Post by: decoyman on September 13, 2006, 08:43:30 PM
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Originally posted by: jasonditz
Seattle PI just pulled it.
Either they leaked something they weren't supposed to or the author was full of crap.
A glimmer of hope...
I think the difference between $199 and $249 is huge. It's huge for me, at least, and I'd consider myself a "hardcore" gamer. At $199, it's a no-brainer, and creeps into the impulse buy range. $250 seems like substantially more, hopping out of the impulse buy range. It might be a mind game, but it's a mind game that works.
IF they include two controllers in addition to Wii Sports, then maybe it could still be considered "casual gamer tempter" territory...
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 08:45:03 PM
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Originally posted by: joedickQuote
I never thought it would come out in October but I sure as heck didn't think it would come out on 19th where it will be overshadowed by PS3 and for 250$ too.
Honestly it doesn't really matter which comes out first. There will be so few PS3s out there that the Wii will sell more regardless. It could come out in December and easily sell more.
There may be a shortage of PS3s but it will steal the limelight with a strong marketing blitz and hype. You are not going to sell people a Wii for 250$ when the PS3 marketing is at full throttle and released 2 days prior. THey had a chance to steal some of the thunder but now the Wii will be overshadowed by PS3 whether it be the shortage news or Sony's own marketing. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this will haunt Nintendo more so than you can imagine (Only 50$ cheaper than an Xbox 360 is not a good thing either, the average gamer may jsut spring for an Xbox 360 once you get up to that price).
Post by: Mario on September 13, 2006, 08:46:58 PM
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You are not going to sell people a Wii for 250$ when the PS3 marketing is at full throttle.
I bet $250 you're dead wrong! Nothing is going to change with an extra $50 over a number pulled out of thin air. It means absolutely nothing.
This would basically be $200 for me since I was buying Wii Sports anyway.
Post by: BigJim on September 13, 2006, 08:47:38 PM
Post by: attackslug on September 13, 2006, 08:49:28 PM
My guess is that the relase date and price are in the right ballpark, but launching hardware on a day where stores open late/close early is just plain strange to me. I've worked in a number of (non game) stores, and sundays were always the slowest in terms of sales.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 08:53:17 PM
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Originally posted by: MarioQuote
You are not going to sell people a Wii for 250$ when the PS3 marketing is at full throttle.
I bet $250 you're dead wrong! Nothing is going to change with an extra $50 over a number pulled out of thin air. It means absolutely nothing.
This would basically be $200 for me since I was buying Wii Sports anyway.
It changes when you have a vastly superior system hardware wise for 50$ more. I know most of us Nintendo fans will pay it but the mainstream is not going to be as accepting, that is not a mainstream price especially for a system that is perceived as a weak link when it comes to what you get.
Post by: MaryJane on September 13, 2006, 08:53:38 PM
Post by: Donutt007 on September 13, 2006, 08:54:48 PM
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 08:55:33 PM
Post by: joedick on September 13, 2006, 08:56:22 PM
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Sunday is an odd day for any product launch...
Nintendo typically releases hardware on Sundays. Even as recently as the DS Lite.
Post by: Mario on September 13, 2006, 08:56:33 PM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolutionQuote
Originally posted by: MarioQuote
You are not going to sell people a Wii for 250$ when the PS3 marketing is at full throttle.
I bet $250 you're dead wrong! Nothing is going to change with an extra $50 over a number pulled out of thin air. It means absolutely nothing.
This would basically be $200 for me since I was buying Wii Sports anyway.
It changes when you have a vastly superior system hardware wise for 50$ more. I know most of us Nintendo fans will pay it but the mainstream is not going to be as accepting, that is not a mainstream price especially for a system that is perceived as a weak link when it comes to what you get.
The mainstream don't care about graphics.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 08:56:55 PM
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Originally posted by: MaryJane
gcn launched on a sunday and are you guys really complaining about $250?
I am when it appears all you are getting is Wii sports for hardware that is vastly underpowered, it is not going to look well at all to the gaming public. Like I said that is not what I would call an impulse buy price and places it only 50$ under Xbox 360.
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 13, 2006, 08:57:16 PM
Man $250 and AFTER this PS3, Nintendo tell me it isn't true!!
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 08:57:22 PM
Major, major stupidity here. God, are were they thinking? They LIED about release date.
Post by: BigJim on September 13, 2006, 09:02:15 PM
That IS odd....
Edit: Ah, no Wiisports bundled for them.
Post by: Mario on September 13, 2006, 09:02:43 PM
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 09:03:24 PM
Can't say how disappointing this is. Really can't say.
Post by: attackslug on September 13, 2006, 09:04:49 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 09:05:31 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
I guess I won't be getting one until Christmas, now. I could afford the $300 or so Canadian (system and a game) I expected. Up that to $375 or so and I just cannot afford it.
Can't say how disappointing this is. Really can't say.
I have to agree, I will only feel alittle better if it comes with two wiimotes/nunchucks and the classic controller. That 2 days after PS3 is the major kicker there, no way can Nintendo beat Sony when it comes to marketing, it will be buried. BTW how in the heck did Pale know the release date? Seems odd he would nail it right on.
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 09:06:36 PM
Wii
Remote Strap
Nunchuck
AC Adapter
A/V Cable
Stand
"Plate"
Sensor Bar
Stand Plug??
2 Batteries
If the American one has a second controller as well as Sports it'll be better. If it's just sports that's crap.
Post by: Famicom on September 13, 2006, 09:07:26 PM
A quick machine translator says that it'll include the console, controller, nunchaku attachment, AC adapter, AV cable, console stand, supporting plate (??), sensor bar, sensor bar stand, and two AA batteries. So the US one costs more when you add in the extra controller and Wii Sports we're (supposedly) getting.
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 13, 2006, 09:08:59 PM
Post by: joedick on September 13, 2006, 09:09:09 PM
Look, Nintendo is a company that makes money. Lots of it. Billions of them. They are a profitable company, and will continue to be so, even with the wii. And as long as they continue to make money, they will keep making the games we love. Regardless of whether they are number one or number three.
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 09:09:36 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
If the American one has a second controller as well as Sports it'll be better. If it's just sports that's crap.
QFT. If its only Wii Sports, then they are essentially forcing us to buy the game looking at the Japanese price.
Post by: MaryJane on September 13, 2006, 09:11:19 PM
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 09:12:33 PM
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Originally posted by: Famicom
Japanese press release of the Wii launch in Japan.
A quick machine translator says that it'll include the console, controller, nunchaku attachment, AC adapter, AV cable, console stand, supporting plate (??), sensor bar, sensor bar stand, and two AA batteries. So the US one costs more when you add in the extra controller and Wii Sports we're (supposedly) getting.
We are hoping we get 2 controllers, nowhere on the NYT story does it say it comes with 2 controllers.
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 13, 2006, 09:12:36 PM
The sad part about my prediction on this date is that I was actually right. 1 week earlier, 2 weeks earlier would have been optimal, but the 19th! What a mistake you have just made Nintendo. I know they think they will step in in the wake of the disaster that is the PS3 and be the light at the end of the tunnel, but I don't think it is going to happen quite like that. As far as the price goes I have to agree with VGrevolution it better come with two wiimotes/nunchucks and the classic controller for $250.
Just when I thought Nintendo couldn't do anything to screw up a perfect hand, they find some way to drop the ball in the end. I hope it works for them. I can not echo enough my disappointment over this news.
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 09:14:53 PM
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Originally posted by: joedick
What is with everyone talking about the "mainstream gamer". Seriously, I can understand being upset if the console is too expensive for you now and you can't afford. But why are we worried about the 'mainstream gamer' and popular perception?
Look, Nintendo is a company that makes money. Lots of it. Billions of them. They are a profitable company, and will continue to be so, even with the wii. And as long as they continue to make money, they will keep making the games we love. Regardless of whether they are number one or number three.
More ppl buy the Wii = more games get made for it, that's why ppl care. That and the fact that Nintendo keeps talking about how they're going after casuals and ppl that don't play games.
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 13, 2006, 09:15:06 PM
Quotelol, same here
Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I like how everyone's acting like this is a big deal.
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 09:17:36 PM
No way the nunchuck is sold separately.
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 13, 2006, 09:17:37 PM
I wouldn't expect an extra controller in there, as much as I'd like one. That's giving us more than we're paying for, too much more.
Post by: MaryJane on September 13, 2006, 09:18:57 PM
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Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
Just when I thought Nintendo couldn't do anything to screw up a perfect hand, they find some way to drop the ball in the end. I hope it works for them. I can not echo enough my disappointment over this news.
Further explanation ofmy POSt.
things looked Perfect For Ninty now they look Slightly mediocre
Post by: Strell on September 13, 2006, 09:19:18 PM
WTF IS GOING ON HERE
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 09:21:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I like how everyone's acting like this is a big deal.
For people on a budget, it IS a big deal, especially those who didn't want Wiisports and will have to pay extra for a pack in they didn't want.
Post by: mantidor on September 13, 2006, 09:21:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Strell
Wii sports no longer a pack-in?
WTF IS GOING ON HERE
confusion between the japanese and NA packages.
In other words, apparently we are getting the psp treatment with a pack-in while japan isn't.
Post by: joedick on September 13, 2006, 09:21:48 PM
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Originally posted by: Jin-X
"2:09 a.m. EST [update 11]: Gemaga reports 3,800 yen cost for the remote, 1800 yen for the classic controller, and 1800 yen for the nunchuck attachment." - Joystiq
No way the nunchuck is sold separately.
It's included in the box, of course they will sell extras, like they do any controller
Post by: Artimus on September 13, 2006, 09:22:39 PM
The Japanese release appears to be different than ours, we get WiiSports as a packin.
I don't see how Nintendo can not include two Wiimotes if they include WiiSports. Just makes no sense. How are you supposed to play WiiSports if you only have one controller? At at $60 for another that's over $300 before you even buy any games. It must be including a second controller here. MUST.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 09:22:44 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I like how everyone's acting like this is a big deal.
For people on a budget, it IS a big deal, especially those who didn't want Wiisports and will have to pay extra for a pack in they didn't want.
Well I was talking to a friend of mine who was looking forward to Wii and was willing to spring for a 200$ console but the 250$ is pushing it too much. He would be the type of gamer that Nintendo said they wanted to get, and now appears to be one they have pushed away.
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 09:25:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Look, the Japanese price is about $212, converted to US dollars (so I'm told by Bill). Meaning that we're paying $35 dollars for WiiSports. Which is perfectly reasonable for a game they could be charging us fifty for.
I wouldn't expect an extra controller in there, as much as I'd like one. That's giving us more than we're paying for, too much more.
So like I said, they're really forcing us to buy Wii Sports instead of packing it in or bundling it. I would rather use that money for another game, so giving us 2 controllers is important.
You think its no big deal, but when you have the highest price for a Nintendo console ever when those were really high-tech (the tech mostly got moved from gfx to controller this time around) and forcing you to buy a game not everybody will want (unless it comes with 2 controllers) and then factor in the crazy VC prizes (I don't believe the $5 for a Nes game, that's crazy, maybe those prices are for NEW games sold through the VC) it's somewhat of a dissapointment.
Post by: Svevan on September 13, 2006, 09:27:02 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 09:27:53 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 09:28:29 PM
$5 for NES games is laughably high. If by some miracle you haven't played these games in the 20+ years they've been kicking around out there, I doubt people would be dumb enough to now pay $5 when you can download them in under 15 seconds and try them free (most of which suck anyways).
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 09:29:56 PM
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Originally posted by: joedickQuote
Originally posted by: Jin-X
"2:09 a.m. EST [update 11]: Gemaga reports 3,800 yen cost for the remote, 1800 yen for the classic controller, and 1800 yen for the nunchuck attachment." - Joystiq
No way the nunchuck is sold separately.
It's included in the box, of course they will sell extras, like they do any controller
What I mean is they are selling extra controllers separately, the Wiimote and Nunchuk aren't sold together when you buy extra ones, that can't be true, that would be insane, most games use both, they are considered to be one controller, not an accesory.
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 13, 2006, 09:30:30 PM
Is it mildly disappointing to have to pay about 35 dollars for a game you may or may not want? Sure it is. But fire is not falling from the sky.
Post by: Mario on September 13, 2006, 09:31:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I like how everyone's acting like this is a big deal.
For people on a budget, it IS a big deal, especially those who didn't want Wiisports and will have to pay extra for a pack in they didn't want.
Not a big deal for me and I have no income or money right now at all. Go play your HDTV and cry.
Post by: capamerica on September 13, 2006, 09:32:05 PM
$250 isn't that bad for a system but truthfully I would rather Nintendo release it for $200 without WiiSports. When the system costs $250 alot more of your consumers are going to look at it and say to themselves "for a extra $50 I can get a Xbox360" and if MS really wants to bring the fight to Nintendo they could easily drop the core unit down to $250.
Nintendo better have a really killer launch line up.
The VC games seem a bit pricey for NES games, SNES and N64 I can understand but NES games should have been $2.
I'm a bit surprized with some of built-in features. And I'm surprized that they didn't add MP3 and DVD play back.
Overall I think I'm kind of disapointed. Heres hoping there will be some really BIG news in the US announcement.
Post by: Svevan on September 13, 2006, 09:32:32 PM
Post by: mantidor on September 13, 2006, 09:33:26 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 09:33:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Oh, that's right...
$5 for NES games is laughably high. If by some miracle you haven't played these games in the 20+ years they've been kicking around out there, I doubt people would be dumb enough to now pay $5 when you can download them in under 15 seconds and try them free (most of which suck anyways).
Well I hate emulation and find it too much of a chore to get working. If I do then I hate the controls so 5$ is fine with me, especially since most NES games end up costing that on Ebay after s&h
Post by: IceCold on September 13, 2006, 09:33:53 PM
QuoteThe Canadian dollar is really strong at the moment, and Nintendo of Canada seems to be doing a pretty good job of late (putting USB dongles and Electroplankton in stores, etc..). Hopefully they either change the bundle so that it doesn't come with Wii Sports (unlikely), or the price isn't raised too much - maybe to $270 or $280. It doesn't sound too good, but at least it's not as expensive. After all, the PS3's premium system was listed as $660 CDN (a 1.1 ratio).. I was going to pick up Wii Sports (maybe not at launch) but I don't like that they added it as a pack in for all the consoles.
Originally posted by: Artimus
I guess I won't be getting one until Christmas, now. I could afford the $300 or so Canadian (system and a game) I expected. Up that to $375 or so and I just cannot afford it.
Can't say how disappointing this is. Really can't say.
EDIT: I sound more bitter in that post than I really am. To clarify, a $50 or $35 difference isn't the end of the world - many people here are making it sound like it is.. I had already budgeted for $250 US (Kept the highest price in mind so that I would either be pleasantly surprised or indifferent). I will still buy it at launch, and I will feel like I got my money's worth. Hostile's right; you probably shouldn't be expecting another controller to be tossed in, although it would be a nice bonus. Let's focus on the positives now..
- 60 LAUNCH VC games, and 10 every month to follow. Excellent
- Weather Centre/ Opera Browser / News Centre on Wii
- Killer launch lineup - 27 games before the end of the year
- See other thread for some great videos that were overlooked since they came out later
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 09:36:39 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I'm just saying that all of you were setting yourselves up for disappointment when you were expecting two controllers, a game packed in, an October release date, and a 180 dollar price tag.
Is it mildly disappointing to have to pay about 35 dollars for a game you may or may not want? Sure it is. But fire is not falling from the sky.
All I expected was 199.99 and crossing my fingers, not expecting, for 2 controllers. Now I'm getting 249 for a game I really didn't want; however, if we get 2 controllers its alright, well except for the VC prices which I'm hoping are the ones for new games, $5 for a Nes game is crazy.
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 09:37:34 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario Not a big deal for me and I have no income or money right now at all. Go play your HDTV and cry.
Ain't talking about me, pal, talking about the many people who just barely scrape by with rent+food.
Trust me, they exist and many very much fall into the "casual" market Nintendo insists it's aiming for.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 09:38:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Svevan
You may want WiiSports when it comes out, plus this isn't a price-gouge. I am confident the difference between the Jap and US price (which is small anyways, exchange rates cannot be trusted), will be justified by pack-ins with the US Wii.
I hope you are right about the pack-ins, don't get me wrong I'm still super excited about Wii but I fear this could bite them in the butt and I do NOT want to see another GameCube.
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 09:39:09 PM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
Well I hate emulation and find it too much of a chore to get working. If I do then I hate the controls so 5$ is fine with me, especially since most NES games end up costing that on Ebay after s&h
Game freezes.
End of discussion.
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 09:46:02 PM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
I hope you are right about the pack-ins, don't get me wrong I'm still super excited about Wii but I fear this could bite them in the butt and I do NOT want to see another GameCube.
With or without my money, I'm sure Ninty will be fine.
Sony, their only real competitor, has borked it up so badly that they've given Nintendo more than ample wiggle room.
Post by: BigJim on September 13, 2006, 09:46:31 PM
Tons of video clips, slides of the presentation, as well as a look into the UI.
Post by: ShyGuy on September 13, 2006, 09:47:43 PM
1. Nintendo will sell as many Wiis as they can ship this year at $250. Why? because that price is what the market (the early adopter market) will bear.
2. I predict a Wii price drop to $199 next year, because you know the PS3 and 360 are going to have their prices slashed in 2007. The console wars are gonna get bloody.
3. Wii $250, extra controller set, $60*, Zelda $50, Red Steel $50 = $410* minimum. Don't expect a Christmas present from me this year.
4. Ian is going to have a cow.
5. When can I reserve one of these things at Gamestop?
*assuming it doesn't come with 2 wiimotes+nunchuka sets, which I don't think it will.
Post by: MANTI5 on September 13, 2006, 09:48:46 PM
It's much easier to use emulators than pay $5 per NES game that can be had for pennies. Even though having it all on one console is nice.
Post by: Mario on September 13, 2006, 09:51:35 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 13, 2006, 09:52:04 PM
I'll still download some.
Post by: ThePerm on September 13, 2006, 09:53:55 PM
Post by: Jin-X on September 13, 2006, 09:55:34 PM
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Nintendo's Wii console will come packaged with one Wii remote, one nunchuck attachment, an AC adapter, an audio/video cable, a sensor bar, sensor bard stand, a Wii console stand and two batteries. The package will also come bundled with a copy of Wii Sports, a compilation sports game that best shows off the mechanics of the system's unique controller. Wii Sports features tennis, baseball, golf and previously unannounced bowling and boxing games.
So you have to spend $300 to be able to play Wii Sports multiplayer? So much for going for "non-gamers". At least the games will be $50.
I'm going to sleep and hope that when I wake up Nintendo pulls a fast one on us ala Smash Bros on E3 by proving some of these prices/packages bogus.
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 13, 2006, 10:01:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Plus emulation is terrible if you want to play it with anyone else. I have no problem paying 5 or 10 dollars for a game I never got to play, and I have every NES game ever made on my computer.
I'll still download some.
Please send me some money because, clearly, you have it to burn.
Post by: IceCold on September 13, 2006, 10:03:32 PM
First off, the VC pricing is just fine - $9 US for N64 games and $6-7 for SNES games is not a rip off at all. Even the NES pricing ($4) is not bad; I would still download quite a few..
They announced that Zelda would be 6800 Yen when it came out. However, they also announced that no game in North America would be more than $50 US. 6800 Yen converts to $58 US, so there is some discrepancy there. We might be able to use this and apply it to the accessories and perhaps VC games. I'm hoping that after all the conversion, the controller and analogue attachment turns out to be $40 US..
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 10:03:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Jin-X
It seems it only comes with one controller...
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Nintendo's Wii console will come packaged with one Wii remote, one nunchuck attachment, an AC adapter, an audio/video cable, a sensor bar, sensor bard stand, a Wii console stand and two batteries. The package will also come bundled with a copy of Wii Sports, a compilation sports game that best shows off the mechanics of the system's unique controller. Wii Sports features tennis, baseball, golf and previously unannounced bowling and boxing games.
So you have to spend $300 to be able to play Wii Sports multiplayer? So much for going for "non-gamers". At least the games will be $50.
I'm going to sleep and hope that when I wake up Nintendo pulls a fast one on us ala Smash Bros on E3 by proving some of these prices/packages bogus.
That better not be correct, because that will really hurt the Wii in that Wiisports is MULTIPLAYER focused and will probaly leave a bad taste in the mouths of people who do not buy a second controller. On a side note I can't wait to see what Ian says lol.
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 13, 2006, 10:11:39 PM
On a side note, Component Cables (or VGA), are they in the box?, I might've missed Nintendo saying something about this in the past and I was just curious if any of you guys knew.
Post by: BigJim on September 13, 2006, 10:27:30 PM
This doesn't have the same pop as DS's $150 aggressive launch pricing. But, not a deal breaker.
The UI is awesome, at least.
Post by: Arbok on September 13, 2006, 10:34:52 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
They announced that Zelda would be 6800 Yen when it came out. However, they also announced that no game in North America would be more than $50 US. 6800 Yen converts to $58 US, so there is some discrepancy there.
Media products are always more expensive in Japan. A regular DVD release will cost you about Y4000 yen when it first comes out, while a "special edition" release (it's very common in Japan to have a regular and special release for most popular titles) will sell in the Y5000-6500 range. Videos games also cost more there too, but are actually resonably close to DVDs versus the huge discrepancy seen in the US and other markets.
So that pricing looks right.
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 13, 2006, 10:43:50 PM
I have a grand total of fifteen dollars right now.
The Wii is a commodity, entertainment. It's for disposable income. If you don't have that, you don't get to enjoy it. That's how economy works, genius.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 13, 2006, 11:58:51 PM
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Originally posted by: BigJim
There is a *little* bit of sticker shock here too. I'd even be happier with $220 without WiiSports, because I don't really care about it. Or at least 2 Wiimotes as a good value-add for the $250.
This doesn't have the same pop as DS's $150 aggressive launch pricing. But, not a deal breaker.
The UI is awesome, at least.
That is one thing I found most impressive was the User interface, it seems slick and easy to use, very professional looking. I still want to know about the Wii 24hr internet connection.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2006, 12:13:50 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 14, 2006, 02:37:05 AM
The thing is that according to the japanese trailer, they also show boxing. I doubt they will sell it separately so it might also be part of Wii sports.
Post by: couchmonkey on September 14, 2006, 02:57:41 AM
And a photo editor that doesn't even let you put the photos in the games? NintenROFLs am cry!
Super Paper Mario delayed instead of awesome, Virtual console games cost as much as a car, launch price within farting distance of Xsux 360, launch date is as late as possible. More like BAD NEWSATON.
edit: It's a good morning to be a dirty Sony turncoat!
Post by: blackfootsteps on September 14, 2006, 03:06:40 AM
The price gouging on our side of the world is quite extraordinary seeing as US$250 (should) = A$330. Yay for $90 price increase, they better pack-in Wii Sports here! XBOX 360 premium bundles got the headset removed so I wouldn't be surprised if we paid a lot more for less.
I hope the controls are reasonably priced otherwise I'll probably import from the US.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on September 14, 2006, 04:35:50 AM
I'm not gloating or anything, it's just that I sometimes spend more than 250.00 in a month (sometimes a week o_O) for books, dvd's and stuff, so it's not like I am buying something extravagant.
Also, I take home 350.00+ net in my weekly paycheck so I'm not crying, regardless of what Nintendo decided to stick in the box or not.
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 14, 2006, 06:02:32 AM
Post by: jasonditz on September 14, 2006, 06:34:23 AM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
I'm not bothered by the price. If I can afford the 600.00 PS3 (Which I can, but not getting until several games I think are interesting are out), then 250.00 for Wii is nothing.
I'm not gloating or anything, it's just that I sometimes spend more than 250.00 in a month (sometimes a week o_O) for books, dvd's and stuff, so it's not like I am buying something extravagant.
Also, I take home 350.00+ net in my weekly paycheck so I'm not crying, regardless of what Nintendo decided to stick in the box or not.
Nintendo made some very clear promises and they're going back on them.
"One price, one configuration, one color."
I know damned well we were promised multiple launch colors...
And the Gamecube version of Zelda isn't coming until mid December, TWO YEARS AFTER IT WAS FIRST PROMISED I MIGHT ADD, but more recently they promised to release the Wii and GC versions the same day... is the GC suddenly way more difficult to develop for?
And remember being promised Metroid Prime 3? Well, that's pushed back to 2007
I mean sure, I can afford it too, that's not the point. There's a question of value here, and right now it's not looking good. $250 system with a game is great (even if it's a game that wasn't too high up my list)... but we still don't know the full specs of the system, most of the really good games are getting pushed back to 2007, the launch box comes with a multiplayer game, but only one controller for it, and the VC games cost 10 times what I'd be willing to pay for them.
I'm not hearing one good thing: everything is worst case scenario of what we were promised, the price is the highest they talked about, the date is the latest they talked about.
Just as a sheer value proposition, the minimum Wii launch purchase is $360... a system, two controllers, and TP. No VC games, not at that price.
I'm not going through the same months of buyer's remorse I had with the DS before enough games came out to justify the purchase... not when the cost of admission is twice as high.
Post by: TrueNerd on September 14, 2006, 06:36:02 AM
Post by: EasyCure on September 14, 2006, 06:41:28 AM
if its true and we dont get a second controller packed in, and the wiimote and nunchaku controllers are sold as seperate skus, that will most likely hurt nintendo more then luanching a measily two days after ps3 in my mind. thats asking way too much considering how differently each game can play on your new console. so far all the launch games i am definately going to buy require the wiimote/chuck combo. if selling the two seperate you are seriously handicapping your lower income customer because you *sigh* and i'll sound like ian for saying this, you arent giving them the full experience. in order for the full experience you'll have to pay extra for an attachment that can only be used with the Wiimote. Its not like the nunchaku can be used independantly in a versitile way (the wya the wiimote can be used). If that were the case then selling it seperately would at least have SOME merit. Its not the case though.
IMO they are asking way to much for a peripheral that looks like it cost them only five cents to make. its the same analouge stick as GC so development on that has to be fairly cheap right? the two buttons on its back arent analouge so theres no reason for price to go up on that. the biggest offender, no rumble, so again cost should stay low. it doesnt use its own battery supply either. so what are we paying for. $20 for a stick, two buttons and an accelorometer? thats just not fair.
this is gonna hurt them. its doign nothing but causing confusion amonst buyers. imagine mommy who doesnt know anything about video games picking up that extra controller for lil johnny... woops, you need something else to play the game with, looks like you gotta wiat until you get the second peice to your controller.
dumb move
Post by: Luigi Dude on September 14, 2006, 06:45:01 AM
Wii - $250
360 - $400
PS3 - $600
This is a big difference then the last gen where it was just
Gamecube - $200
PS2 - $300
XBox - $300
Post by: BigJim on September 14, 2006, 06:50:14 AM
Everything else isn't so bad.
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 14, 2006, 06:58:21 AM
And what the hell is this? We're ONLY getting white? Way to go back on your promises Nintendo. I don't want a ugly white Wii sitting next to my BLACK N64 AND GAMECUBE. Is it really that goddamn hard to release black too?
Wow. This whole thing is disappointing. I don't even know if I want a Wii at launch anymore.
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 14, 2006, 07:04:00 AM
the ONLY problem I have with all this is the Wiimote+nunchaku price (if it were just 10 or 15 less it'd be great), everything else is just fine
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 14, 2006, 07:15:27 AM
Post by: jasonditz on September 14, 2006, 07:24:44 AM
Post by: EasyCure on September 14, 2006, 07:25:05 AM
this might actually mean i'll have to buy white at launch and trade it in for black when that released. its not much of a hassle but i'd rather be able to buy black from the get go. with the DSL i didnt mind so much because i already have a ds to hold me off until released. this isn't the case anymore. i dont have a Wii to hold me off until a new color comes out.
and if Wii sells out like the dsl's do in japan, then that means i'll probably have to preorder a black Wii just to ensure i'll get it, the trade in value by then probably wont cover the full cost of the new color so i'll technically have to pay for a second console, even though not much. any word yet about wiimote colors being available at launch??
Post by: BigJim on September 14, 2006, 07:26:34 AM
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 14, 2006, 07:27:39 AM
Nintendo can't price it too low because then people would see it as an inferior system, when it is actually the superior system when you consider the innovative features. Plus this gives breathing room for price cuts later on. If Nintendo released it for the lowest possible price then they wouldn't have much room to cut prices. Also, the supply of Wiis at launch is going to be somewhat limited, and you'll probably see these selling for $1,000 on ebay anyway.
So it is my opinion that the price is right. I'm also pleased to see the return of pack in games.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2006, 07:28:52 AM
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Originally posted by: BigJim
Your choices of colors (systems and controllers) are white, white and white.
Out of all the blunders Nintendo has made today only one color is perhaps the most forgiveable. It is the other things that could cost NIntendo dearly down the road.
Post by: Arbok on September 14, 2006, 07:29:21 AM
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Originally posted by: BigJim
Your choices of colors (systems and controllers) are white, white and white.
Well... at least when I take the Gamecube out, it will look natural with the white Dreamcast and white Wavebirds I suppose...
I always tend to get the console in its most advertised color anyway, so that doesn't really bother me, although they should have issued it in at least one varient color like the GCN when it launched.
Post by: BigJim on September 14, 2006, 07:30:05 AM
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Why are almost all of you complaining about the price? The Wii is a superior system than that of its competitors, and could easily sell for even higher than $250.
If the price included a pack-in people wanted, that'd be one thing.
The Japanese price is $212 with no WiiSports. I think many here would prefer that option rather than have no alternative but to pay the $40 for WiiSports (or get no system at all).
Post by: EasyCure on September 14, 2006, 07:33:19 AM
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Originally posted by: BigJim
Your choices of colors (systems and controllers) are white, white and white.
Out of all the blunders Nintendo has made today only one color is perhaps the most forgiveable. It is the other things that could cost NIntendo dearly down the road.
what if people hold off on buying a wii until the black color is available? what if that or other colors isnt available for 6 months or so, for whatever reason? that means people wont be buying wii's, or wii games, w hich means initial sales will make it appear to be a lost cause game developers. that means by the time someone does get around to owning a black wii, developers will back out and we'll be living in the gamecube gen all over again.
although that is a worst case scenario ;-). just because this scenario is possible, i wouldnt call it the most forgiveable. if we get a lack of games because systems didndt sell initially because a color alternative wasnt available...i wouldnt forgive nintendo ;-)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2006, 07:33:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
Why are almost all of you complaining about the price? The Wii is a superior system than that of its competitors, and could easily sell for even higher than $250.
Nintendo can't price it too low because then people would see it as an inferior system, when it is actually the superior system when you consider the innovative features. Plus this gives breathing room for price cuts later on. If Nintendo released it for the lowest possible price then they wouldn't have much room to cut prices. Also, the supply of Wiis at launch is going to be somewhat limited, and you'll probably see these selling for $1,000 on ebay anyway.
So it is my opinion that the price is right. I'm also pleased to see the return of pack in games.
Like I said in another thread, after launch is what will be really telling and you are going to have trouble selling inferior graphical hardware to the masses for 250$. Nintendo is also going to be limiting the games people will be buying which could turn out to negatively impact the sales of 3rd party games which could chase them away instead of bringing them in. I was planning on getting 4 games at launch, now I can only get 3 which will be Elbits, Zelda, and Red Steel.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 14, 2006, 07:36:23 AM
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Originally posted by: BigJim
Your choices of colors (systems and controllers) are white, white and white.
Wasn't that the case with the SNES? Yet the SNES was a huge success. White or black as the default color is fine for any console.
I'm just glad that the default color isn't indigo like the Gamecube was. That actually could be why the Gamecube failed...
Post by: jasonditz on September 14, 2006, 07:40:32 AM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2006, 07:43:29 AM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolutionQuote
Originally posted by: BigJim
Your choices of colors (systems and controllers) are white, white and white.
Out of all the blunders Nintendo has made today only one color is perhaps the most forgiveable. It is the other things that could cost NIntendo dearly down the road.
what if people hold off on buying a wii until the black color is available? what if that or other colors isnt available for 6 months or so, for whatever reason? that means people wont be buying wii's, or wii games, w hich means initial sales will make it appear to be a lost cause game developers. that means by the time someone does get around to owning a black wii, developers will back out and we'll be living in the gamecube gen all over again.
although that is a worst case scenario ;-). just because this scenario is possible, i wouldnt call it the most forgiveable. if we get a lack of games because systems didndt sell initially because a color alternative wasnt available...i wouldnt forgive nintendo ;-)
Lol why must you include this worse case scenario when they have already fulfilled two others
.Post by: SixthAngel on September 14, 2006, 07:45:49 AM
This price seems very good to me. It is reasonably priced, leaves room for a pricecut in the future and keeps Nintendo from bleeding money like every other console maker. If selling the system at $250 scares away 3rd parties where will they go? The only other places to go cost $400 and $600 so I guess they will just be scared out of the industry.
I just can't wait to here everyone talk about how much they love Wii sports after they get it at launch after all this bitching. I would have paid full price for it.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2006, 07:50:35 AM
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When has a console every been released with multiple colors? I can't think of one because it is more important to simply ship more numbers for launch then to make less but to let you buy it in sky blue.
This price seems very good to me. It is reasonably priced, leaves room for a pricecut in the future and keeps Nintendo from bleeding money like every other console maker. If selling the system at $250 scares away 3rd parties where will they go? The only other places to go cost $400 and $600 so I guess they will just be scared out of the industry.
I just can't wait to here everyone talk about how much they love Wii sports after they get it at launch after all this bitching. I would have paid full price for it.
The thing is that on Xbox 360 and PS3, 3rd party is about the only place to go for good to great games. On Nintendo consoles you have Nintendo games to deal with and that is why 3rd parties have always struggled, this will compound that problem. Also the Gamecube was released in two colors
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Post by: BigJim on September 14, 2006, 07:51:16 AM
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When has a console every been released with multiple colors?
GameCube... Black and Indigo. (Not that I care about the color discussion. Just sayin'.)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 14, 2006, 07:53:00 AM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
When has a console every been released with multiple colors?
Gamecube. :| Bad memory?
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Post by: getter77 on September 14, 2006, 08:33:03 AM
If I happen to get a Wii for Christmas or a late Nov b-day present then that's all well and good. However, at these kinds of prices, it won't be until sometime in 2007 prolly until I'd get around to shelling out that much. It doesn't matter to me how much worse the price breaks down for the 360 and PS3 are in some respects, 250 is still 250 in absolute terms at the end of the day.
To me, we've reached a dark chapter in the history of gaming when a proper controller costs more than a standard game itself that isn't Steel Batallion.
On the flip side, I saw a blurb from the transcribin's and such saying the Wii will be region free in the same vein as the DS....unless publishers specifically decide to be d-bags about it.
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 14, 2006, 08:41:02 AM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
I didn't buy a gamecube until about a year ago. Also the gamecubes original color was purple! It needed the option while the Wii looks great in white.
The Wii looks like it clashes with EVERYTHING IN MY ROOM in white.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on September 14, 2006, 08:42:49 AM
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I didn't buy a gamecube until about a year ago. Also the gamecubes original color was purple! It needed the option while the Wii looks great in white.
The Wii looks like it clashes with EVERYTHING IN MY ROOM in white.
Then that means it's time to re-decorate your room. Get to it and stop bitching.
Post by: King of Twitch on September 14, 2006, 10:45:09 AM
Post by: jasonditz on September 14, 2006, 10:51:29 AM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
When has a console every been released with multiple colors? I can't think of one because it is more important to simply ship more numbers for launch then to make less but to let you buy it in sky blue.
No other console has ever launched with Zelda either, but if Nintendo pulled TP out of the launch window everyone would be plenty pissed about it, because they promised.
It's fine if they launch with one color, but Nintendo should not have touted the multiple launch colors at the E3 unveiling.
Post by: jasonditz on September 14, 2006, 10:53:29 AM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
I didn't buy a gamecube until about a year ago. Also the gamecubes original color was purple! It needed the option while the Wii looks great in white.
The Gamecube launched in two colors... Indigo (which is what I got, that sort of bluish-purplish one), and Black.
Post by: decoyman on September 14, 2006, 11:01:47 AM
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I didn't buy a gamecube until about a year ago. Also the gamecubes original color was purple! It needed the option while the Wii looks great in white.
The Wii looks like it clashes with EVERYTHING IN MY ROOM in white.
Just pretend it's a window letting in radiant white light from the shining world known as FUN.
Post by: Artimus on September 14, 2006, 11:05:23 AM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
When has a console every been released with multiple colors? I can't think of one because it is more important to simply ship more numbers for launch then to make less but to let you buy it in sky blue.
No other console has ever launched with Zelda either, but if Nintendo pulled TP out of the launch window everyone would be plenty pissed about it, because they promised.
It's fine if they launch with one color, but Nintendo should not have touted the multiple launch colors at the E3 unveiling.
They didn't taunt anything. They have NEVER said there would be more than one colour.
Post by: wandering on September 14, 2006, 11:08:59 AM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
what if people hold off on buying a wii until the black color is available?
*Shrug* Wii will sell out. It just makes more business sense to hold off on black til later, where they can use the color to rekindle people's interest in the console.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 14, 2006, 11:11:18 AM
Wii + Wiimote + Wii Sports + All-in-one Composite/Component cables + Photoshop/Photo stuff = 250 is a bloody bargain...
Which of course is somewhat counter-attacked by the nunchuk and Wiimote being sold separately, but oh well...
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 14, 2006, 11:13:41 AM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
When has a console every been released with multiple colors? I can't think of one because it is more important to simply ship more numbers for launch then to make less but to let you buy it in sky blue.
No other console has ever launched with Zelda either, but if Nintendo pulled TP out of the launch window everyone would be plenty pissed about it, because they promised.
It's fine if they launch with one color, but Nintendo should not have touted the multiple launch colors at the E3 unveiling.
They didn't taunt anything. They have NEVER said there would be more than one colour.
Yes they did.
Post by: Artimus on September 14, 2006, 11:16:09 AM
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Originally posted by: ArtimusQuote
Originally posted by: jasonditzQuote
Originally posted by: SixthAngel
When has a console every been released with multiple colors? I can't think of one because it is more important to simply ship more numbers for launch then to make less but to let you buy it in sky blue.
No other console has ever launched with Zelda either, but if Nintendo pulled TP out of the launch window everyone would be plenty pissed about it, because they promised.
It's fine if they launch with one color, but Nintendo should not have touted the multiple launch colors at the E3 unveiling.
They didn't taunt anything. They have NEVER said there would be more than one colour.
Yes they did.
Quote?
Post by: jasonditz on September 14, 2006, 11:26:05 AM
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Post by: jasonditz on September 14, 2006, 12:47:56 PM
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They didn't. In fact, I recall them saying that they were pretty sure they'd only launch in ONE color.
hmm... I could've sworn they did.
Seems kind of silly to show off all these great colors and say "look at all the cool colors you could theoretically buy if we were going to sell them, which we probably won't". It's not like no one knew it was theoretically possible to color plastic before E3 '05.
Post by: Arbok on September 14, 2006, 12:57:42 PM
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Seems kind of silly to show off all these great colors and say "look at all the cool colors you could theoretically buy if we were going to sell them, which we probably won't". It's not like no one knew it was theoretically possible to color plastic before E3 '05.
I'm sure it was done to see early reactions to it. Had one particular color taken off in a large way (like, let's say at random, the press focused on the red and general reaction was favorable toward it) they could possible make it either the main color or an alternate that would follow after launch.
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Post by: IceCold on September 14, 2006, 04:19:20 PM
QuoteAre you serious? Wow couch, for everything "wrong" that Nintendo has done today, it doesn't even compare to the what Sony has over the past few months.. The PS3 $600 US for crying out loud! And the launch doesn't even compare to that of the Wii! Not to mention the impact of the controller and the VC.. In terms of games, the future of the Wii is brighter than ever - did you see that new video reel? What on the PS3 has more drawing power?
Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Looks like we're getting charged $38 (at the current exchange rate from Japan) for Wii Sports. Also looks like Pale wins the "when will Wii launch" contest.
And a photo editor that doesn't even let you put the photos in the games? NintenROFLs am cry!
Super Paper Mario delayed instead of awesome, Virtual console games cost as much as a car, launch price within farting distance of Xsux 360, launch date is as late as possible. More like BAD NEWSATON.
edit: It's a good morning to be a dirty Sony turncoat!
(...)
a week ago before I realized that PS3-level graphics are the only thing worth paying for this gen
(...)
I've already pre-ordered my PS3!
I didn't think you were someone who would be as fickle as to jump ship when news like this was revealed. Sure, it isn't the best of news, but enough to turn you off the Wii in favour of a PS3? Oh well, I guess you can enjoy watching your Blu Ray movies in glorious high-def, and counting the number of polygons on the characters while playing.. Have fun.
Unless you're just joking, in which case... never mind
Post by: Arbok on September 14, 2006, 04:37:25 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Are you serious? Wow couch, for everything "wrong" that Nintendo has done today, it doesn't even compare to the what Sony has over the past few months..
I assumed he was making a joke. If it was a 360, since they are much closer in price, sure I could understand, but making the plunge for a $600 console due to this news?
...if he wasn't joking, though, what can you do but just laugh and shrug?
Post by: IceCold on September 14, 2006, 04:48:12 PM
Post by: Donutt007 on September 14, 2006, 05:17:01 PM
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Wii will makes its debut around the world in only the much-touted white variation, however, more colours are on the way. "Until Spring, we'll have a supply limitation, so we want to avoid the situation where people don't buy because their favorite color isn't available. We'll provide new colors after that. Our aim is a design that's not scary," said Miyamoto.
That's actually kinda smart and true.
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 14, 2006, 07:38:09 PM
Post by: wandering on September 14, 2006, 07:59:49 PM
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I'm sure it was done to see early reactions to it. Had one particular color taken off in a large way (like, let's say at random, the press focused on the red and general reaction was favorable toward it) they could possible make it either the main color or an alternate that would follow after launch.
I remember ign's reaction to white was pretty favorable ('OO, pretty, and just like apple, too!')...
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 10, 2007, 08:58:23 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 11, 2007, 04:33:02 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix I especially liked Smash's comments about only idiots would buy NES games for 5$ on VC!
And I stand by that.
VC prices = sodomy
Post by: UncleBob on March 11, 2007, 04:37:58 AM
I've got three controllers and two nunchucks and... can't say I've really made much of a use out of that second nunchuck...
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Post by: UncleBob on March 11, 2007, 05:10:17 AM
"UncleBob - have you purchased 100% unnecessary Nintendo-made hardware for your Nintendo system that basically does the same thing as your five WaveBirds that you already own?"
And before you try to answer that for me, keep in mind that I own four GameBoy Cameras.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 11, 2007, 05:36:52 AM
Sometimes, I pretend that Iwata, Miyamoto or Reggie is there to tuck me in and kiss my forehead goodnight.
It kinda creeps my wife out.
Post by: Kairon on March 11, 2007, 07:38:51 AM
I have 4 GC controllers, 4 wiimotes, 4 nunchucks (used briefly for Marvel: UA, and hopefully soon for Bust-A-Move), and 2 Classic controllers!
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 11, 2007, 08:33:46 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
You are not going to sell people a Wii for 250$ when the PS3 marketing is at full throttle and released 2 days prior. THey had a chance to steal some of the thunder but now the Wii will be overshadowed by PS3 whether it be the shortage news or Sony's own marketing. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this will haunt Nintendo more so than you can imagine
Post by: UncleBob on March 12, 2007, 01:01:29 AM
