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Title: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Cancelled
Post by: stevey on August 21, 2006, 12:19:14 PM: It seem that in a Miyamoto interview that Marionette is back and being ported to the Wii!

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also Miyamoto sated the fates of other previous game projects, Stage Debut parts are being move into other wii games, Mario 128 cancelled and everything was moved to galaxy, and Mario 64-2 had parts moved to other games.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: KnowsNothing on August 21, 2006, 01:50:54 PM: Mario 128 never existed.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: ShyGuy on August 21, 2006, 01:54:56 PM: Mario 256 FTW!

It's true!
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: capamerica on August 21, 2006, 02:00:02 PM: I thought Mario Galaxy was Mario 128.
and what the heck was Marionette?
Title: RE:Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: nemo_83 on August 21, 2006, 02:20:49 PM: a bunch of college kids did this

I always dig this video up when Marionette comes up. That is the direction I want to see the game take (but with free roaming, Luigi, and not so fugly graphics). The demo is just about the control scheme though.

I thought of Galaxy as 128; I just want multiplayer.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: BigJim on August 21, 2006, 03:21:17 PM: uh, according to IGN's story:

""Marionette is probably more suited for something like the Wii," said Miyamoto. "However, that type of game is difficult. Just looking at it, it seems to be fun, but then you get the feeling of, 'Well, what do I do now?'." Miyamoto feels that in order to make such a game last, you have to give it, among other things, a strong story."

--snip--

"Still, Miyamoto had some partially disappointing news. "We're not working on it any more. However, we'd like to release something like it with the right timing, so we're preserving it in the form of its story elements. When Marionette was being planned, we were trying to use the N64 controller in interesting ways. However, if we now use the Wii remote controller, it seems that those types of interesting elements would appear more naturally.""

Thread fail.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: mantidor on August 21, 2006, 05:14:44 PM: yeah what is this thing about Mario 128 not being Galaxy? everyone assumes it is, when I read the thread's title I thought that Galaxy was the one cancelled.
Title: RE:Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: JonLeung on August 21, 2006, 05:27:58 PM: I remember reading how the Mario 128 demo they showed to show off what seemed like lots of power for the GameCube was part of the over-a-hundred-on-screen-characters thing they ended up using in Pikmin.

But mentioning the sphere does sound like the planetoids in Super Mario Galaxy.
Title: RE:Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: BigJim on August 21, 2006, 06:31:46 PM: Mario 128 Demo

Anoop's memory is jerky. Not really a sphere, since it was possible to push objects off it. But whatever.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: Ceric on August 21, 2006, 07:20:47 PM: I learned 2 important facts from that Demo.

1) It never used more then a 1/3 of the GameCubes power. (Had an indicator bar.)
2) Gamecube disc are really mini pizzas.

To think. That looks nice. Makes me think that only half of the power of the cube was even used.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 21, 2006, 07:44:51 PM: I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks (knows?) this, but the "Mario 128 demo" video was total BS. Although it's pretty funny that Nintendo was all like "powerful systems rule!" just 6 years or so ago, and now they're like "good looking games are stupid".
Title: RE:Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: EasyCure on August 21, 2006, 08:00:01 PM: im suprised no one mentioned how the real time landscape morphing is similar to that of Excite Truck
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: SgtShiversBen on August 21, 2006, 08:20:41 PM: Also how they said that they had a concept of a game where Luigi followed Mario but it never worked out fruitfully.

[cough cough] Mario & Lugi [cough cough]
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: IceCold on August 21, 2006, 10:02:58 PM: Yeah, I thought Galaxy was basically 128, give or take a few concepts..
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: Ian Sane on August 22, 2006, 08:32:38 AM: I thought Mario 128 was Super Mario Sunshine and the only reason anyone suggested otherwise is due to disappointment in Mario Sunshine. It has thus been branded as somehow not being a "real" followup to Super Mario 64 and that Mario 128 was still on the way. As if Nintendo would start work on a Mario game for the Cube and then release Mario Sunshine instead. Mario 128 as far as I know is just some made up term used to describe a sequel to Super Mario 64. Super Mario Sunshine is the follow-up to Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy is the follow-up to Sunshine. End of story.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 22, 2006, 09:29:09 AM: Nope, Super Mario 128 and Super Mario Sunshine were two different titles...But then again, Super Mario 128 didn't really have a real direction until a year or two ago...
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 22, 2006, 09:41:51 AM: Yah, the trash can.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 22, 2006, 09:59:53 AM: I always figured Super Mario 128 was a developer's playground of sorts, i.e. a platform on which to try new gameplay ideas to see what works and what doesn't before committing resources to serious development.
Title: RE:Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: JonLeung on August 22, 2006, 10:04:21 AM: I'd guess there's no true or direct connection between the Super Mario 128 GameCube demo and the supposed "other Mario GameCube game" that was often referred to as Super Mario 128.

It's called that because it seems the "logical" name to refer to a sequel of sorts to Super Mario 64, only problem is that game systems aren't compared by bits anymore, really, but if Super Mario 128 came out named as such on the Wii people would be confused and think a generation was missed somehow.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: couchmonkey on August 22, 2006, 10:16:43 AM: Also, it's a crappy title.

I'm glad to have some of this cleared up a bit. I still get people asking about Super Mario 128 on my website.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: Ceric on August 22, 2006, 03:51:48 PM: I want a Ducky game from Sony. They have promised me this for now 2 whole generations going on a third and they still haven't deliverred.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: IceCold on August 23, 2006, 11:54:37 PM: More interesting bits from the interview
Title: RE:Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 24, 2006, 12:06:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Ceric
I want a Ducky game from Sony. They have promised me this for now 2 whole generations going on a third and they still haven't deliverred.

OMG heck yeah, I wanted a ducky game ever since I seen it floating in that tub with a machine that could RULE THE WORLD with its graphics.
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: Ghisy on August 26, 2006, 12:42:15 PM: I have 2 theories on Mario 128:
1/ it was just a "show off" for the GC launch, like a super duper demo,
or
2/ it somehow turned out to be Pikmin. (which had Omari, which is an anagram of Mario's name)
Title: RE: Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: vudu on August 28, 2006, 09:57:18 AM: I never noticed that before.

... shame his name is Olimar, not Omari.
Title: RE:Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: Kairon on August 28, 2006, 10:09:05 AM: It works in Japanese since their language is phonetic.

The three letters that make up the name Mario for them are MA-RI-O. Rearrange that and you get O-RI-MA ... or, Olima, which can be easily extended into Olimaa, and the long aa sound is the way the Japanese approximate the -ar sound, in in my name, Carmine, it is Kaa-main.

Hence, it works.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Marionette back from the dead and move to the Wii and Mario 128 Cancelled
Post by: Ghisy on August 31, 2006, 08:54:09 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: vudu
I never noticed that before.

... shame his name is Olimar, not Omari.

Ahh, my bad!
I didn't double check before I posted.