Post by: Requiem on July 27, 2006, 08:35:19 PM
You may remember me describing a game that was pretty similar to Sadness
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Because of the way the game is made, you have a couple options. You can either bust the lock with the crow-bar you saw in the house, or you can grab a stick and bust the window out. Each option works, but one maybe a wiser decision (climbing through a broken window may be detremental to your health).
On another note - there would be no HUD.
Well now it's VERY similar to sadness...
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Sadness will not have any in-game menu system or HUD. Unlike pretty much every other game on the market, Nibris is attempting to amplify the horrific aspects of their game by making the world as realistic and immersive as possible. This also corresponds to the in-game usage of the Wiimote. "We are aiming at completely intuitive behaviour of the player - just as in life. Every choice a player makes is essential - if you experience traumatic events in your life, they are with you all the time. This will be the same in Sadness. We want the player to feel that he is participating in events, not merely playing a game," says Piotr Bielatowicz, game designer. The Wiimote is going to be a key element in elaborating on this gameplay goal: operations using the Wiimote will be completely intuitive. If there is an item in the environment, such as an umbrella, the player need only reach out with the Wiimote and grab that item. The player can then manipulate that item realistically through motioning with the controller. This should provide players with a whole new level of involvement in the actions of the game's characters. As a further effort to heighten the realism of the game, Nibris has said that they will be employing a save system that will be completely invisible to the player.
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 28, 2006, 05:34:41 AM
Post by: Requiem on July 28, 2006, 06:41:11 AM
I just hope this game isn't too ambitious.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 28, 2006, 07:58:38 AM
Had a woman walking around in what looked like a dress from the 20's or something like that?
Post by: Requiem on July 28, 2006, 08:01:43 AM
You should check out the trailer...
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 28, 2006, 08:05:29 AM
Post by: Requiem on July 28, 2006, 08:10:34 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 28, 2006, 10:49:34 AM
It helps that Nibris really seems like the kind of dev that will not put a product out until they are completely satisfied with it...
Post by: Kairon on July 28, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
I really want them to succeed. But I have plenty of fear.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 28, 2006, 05:46:21 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 28, 2006, 08:11:26 PM
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I guarantee that I will buy this game if Nibris can actually make it.
I really want them to succeed. But I have plenty of fear.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
You mean you'll be fine with purchasing it at full price even if it turns out to have Geist's level of quality?
<-- bought Geist, Killer7, PN03, Battalion Wars at full price upon launch -- "iffy" titles people ignored. I wanted to give them a chance and provide some revenue in hopes of seeing "fixed/polished" sequels from the same team in the future. Many games are hit-or-miss upon the first entry, but many sequels (the 2nd try) "get things right. really right". I'm content with these offerings considering my awareness of their respective development histories, and i don't regret these purchases.
BUT I REGRET BUYING LUIGI'S MANSION AND STARFUX MISADVENTURES AND MEGA MAN ANNIVERSARY COLLECTION AT FULL PRICE.
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 28, 2006, 08:15:15 PM
Any game that lets you break plates across the face of a chef is a good game, and there are a hundred other examples where the creativity of the gameplay truly shines.
Post by: Kairon on July 28, 2006, 09:22:32 PM
I don't expect the game to be polished, or pretty, or even much fun. I'm fine if I only play with it for an hour. But I DO expect the game to be interesting and new from a game design aspect.
Heck, I bought Odama at full price, played for 3 hours, got stuck at stage 3, dropped it, and I'm still happy.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Big_Brother on July 28, 2006, 09:35:01 PM
How's everyone doing.
Remember me?
Post by: wandering on July 28, 2006, 09:42:46 PM
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BUT I REGRET BUYING LUIGI'S MANSION
FAIL.
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I won't be happy with a Geist level of quality. But I WILL be happy with.....Hey You Pikachu.....quality.
Yeah, Miyamoto's ideas about possessing inanimate objects were pretty bad, weren't they? A crappy voice recognition game is much more worthwhile.
(actually, I've never played Hey you, Pikachu!, and have always been interested in it. One day, I'll break down and get it. Along with Pokemon Channel and Hamtaro: Ham Ham Heartbreak.)
Post by: Kairon on July 29, 2006, 03:50:00 PM
As for Hey You Pikachu, it's worthy of notice because of the scenario structure of guiding Pokemon through friendly activities. Interestingly, you can draw some similarities between the tasks you perform in Hey You Pikachu and the tasks you perform in Pikmin: both Pikachu and the Pikmin can be directed around a gamefield to dig up and carry objects. And wonder of wonders, both games also have day-night cycles.
Also, the concept of a domestic setting and daily excursions for leisure activities (visiting the beach, visiting a forest where you'll cook, etc.) is still relatively novel and unexplored in games. In fact, it is a set-up that sounds more like non-game than real-game in its sense of urgency and fantasy.
As you can see, I believe a purchase is worth it if the game edifies or interests on some level of game design. Basically, money is never wasted if you really learn something from the game and are able to take something from it, if after you experience the game you are a more complete person than before.
Or if you have fun. One or the other. Or both.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: blackfootsteps on July 30, 2006, 03:00:58 PM
Not sure if I like this idea. Supposing I have to go out is it safe to stop playing even if I'm not sure whether the game has saved recently or not? I would assume they would use a temporary save that can only loaded once in addition to this invisible system.
On the other hand I've always thought its a bit weird that in most games you can save then try something risky, this will eliminate that safety net and is a good thing for the unpredictability (and hopefully replayability of the game).
Other than that minor issue I believe this game is shaping up to be quite interesting. I really hope this dev can pull off what they're planning as the concept art looked unique.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 30, 2006, 04:27:43 PM
Post by: Requiem on July 30, 2006, 04:51:27 PM
Maybe.
Then again, perhaps they mean that you once you enter a new area or exit one, it'll save automatically. So every time you advance a good deal it'll save. It's not the way i'd do it (Zelda is where it's at), but it works.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 30, 2006, 05:25:01 PM
Post by: Neodymium on July 30, 2006, 06:34:58 PM
I certainly hope not, but it's going to need some serious attention.
Post by: Requiem on July 30, 2006, 06:58:44 PM
They already have a publisher....This game is going to be made.
Post by: Kairon on July 30, 2006, 07:09:39 PM
Seriously, these guys have shown us nothing more than concept art, an actress filmed in black and white, and press releases with lots of high-minded promises. This is all well and good and I'm really excited, especially since these guys are real developers, but there's still a long way to go before we end up with a finished product, much less a GOOD or even DECENT finished product.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Requiem on July 30, 2006, 07:25:06 PM
I mean, if there are funds and if there is commitment to make a good product, then why wouldn't it get released?
Post by: Kairon on July 30, 2006, 07:33:40 PM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Requiem on July 30, 2006, 07:38:14 PM
How does the lack of "the ability to get it done right" all the sudden make it vaporware?
Post by: Kairon on July 30, 2006, 07:46:25 PM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Requiem on July 30, 2006, 08:00:31 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 30, 2006, 08:09:09 PM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 30, 2006, 08:24:03 PM
Post by: Requiem on August 04, 2006, 07:37:17 AM
The art style is fantastic.
Post by: JonLeung on August 04, 2006, 07:50:21 AM
Isn't that image breaking the page widths or whatever, though?
Post by: Zach on August 04, 2006, 08:14:39 AM
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It can still be cancelled. Not to mention that Nibris' first priority is their vertical scrolling Raid Over The River game.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
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From the Nibris Website
Raid over the River wii is not being develped yet. Our priority of the wii console is Sadness, and only after it is finished RotR wii will be developed. ROTR DS is being refined by a separate team.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 04, 2006, 08:19:33 AM
well someone had to say it
Post by: Zach on August 04, 2006, 08:42:58 AM
Post by: Kairon on August 04, 2006, 09:13:59 AM
On one hand, I think that Raid over the River is more realistic and doable, more practical too.
On the other hand, I'm really excited that they're working to get the ball rolling on Sadness!
Still, I post in perpetual fear of something untoward happening to this project.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: WalkingTheCow on August 04, 2006, 09:49:40 AM
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Post by: Leck on January 09, 2007, 11:33:17 AM
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/sadness1_01.jpg
I'm in love with this game
I love its dark, moody style, and that they are actually attempting something original in a game. Post by: denjet78 on January 09, 2007, 12:25:17 PM
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Well, this is bit more interesting. Nibris is claiming that this screen-cap is from a PC work station and not a peice of art work. I say hurray to them if it is!
The art style is fantastic.
That... can't be. Can it?
The game has me very interested though. But I'm still not going to hold my breath. There has been game after game announced for Nintendo consoles by small up-and-coming developers and almost all were eventually lost to history, the development teams never heard from again. I know such-and-such have been announced as working on the title but still. A number of these small developer games have actually been worked on by Nintendo themselves previously and even that wasn't enough to save them.
The trailer's nice, the concept is just fantastic. I with them all the luck and hope, probably way more than I should, that someday I will be playing this game on my Wii.
Post by: Crimm on January 09, 2007, 12:53:02 PM
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Well, this is bit more interesting. Nibris is claiming that this screen-cap is from a PC work station and not a peice of art work. I say hurray to them if it is!
The art style is fantastic.
That... can't be. Can it?
No, it's art. It SCREAMS art, not screen cap.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 09, 2007, 01:02:33 PM
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Post by: ViewtifulJoe on January 09, 2007, 05:13:58 PM
Are you at least 21 years old and don't suffer from a heart condition?
This game looks great but....this shyt is CRAZY
Post by: Strell on January 09, 2007, 05:37:33 PM
No way in hell.
If they were, something really wrong is going on here.
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 09, 2007, 05:40:54 PM
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Post by: IceCold on February 13, 2007, 02:34:22 PM
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15 hours of gameplay and a reported 10 different endings...
A reader over at GoNintendo has revealed that there are some fresh new details for Sadness reported in the latest issue of Game Informer
According to the latest issue, there will be roughly 15 hours of gameplay, with a possible 10 different endings.
Although the 15 hours may seem short compared to something like...say, Twilight Princess, the multiple endings will more than make up for this. Good replay value.
Play the role of Maria, who must watch over her son Alexander after they are in a train accident. Alexander is blinded during the accident, so you must protect him. For whatever reason, Alexander begins acting “odd” after the accident.
Also, using your surroundings will be of great advantage to you, as Maria doesn't have an inventory full of weapons.
Sadly, this title will not be seeing a release until 2008, according to Game Informer. More info on this as it breaks.
Post by: ViewtifulJoe on February 13, 2007, 03:54:24 PM
it would be pritty freakin awsome if the boy got special powers or another sence in the crash...the 6th sence mabey?
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 13, 2007, 05:25:14 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 13, 2007, 07:24:21 PM
(Because I'm a completionist and always have to see them all
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 13, 2007, 07:54:18 PM
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I hate alternate endings.
(Because I'm a completionist and always have to see them all
I don't care much for them either, but probably for different reasons. My main one being that I don't like playing the same "story" over multiple times, once is usually good enough for me, at least for a year or two. So I want to see the "true" ending when I beat it.
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Post by: Magik on February 13, 2007, 11:44:07 PM
As far as I'm concerned, this is nothing but vaporware.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on February 14, 2007, 03:51:57 AM
Post by: Pittbboi on February 14, 2007, 04:32:36 AM
Iffy about the 15 hour gameplay and 10 multiple endings. I can see myself hating this game if in order to get all the different endings I have to beat the game that many times only doing minute things differently (or conversely, impossibly hard and annoying things, like stupid time limits and junk).
However, it'll be awesome if they can make trying to get each ending a completely unique experience, and with only 15 hours of gameplay, I don't see that being too hard to do.
Post by: ryancoke on February 14, 2007, 05:31:46 AM
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Fifteen hours is crap. Deus Ex is my favorite game of all time. I know where everything in that game is, and I've beat it tons of times. Even knowing where everything is, and what I need to do, it still takes me 20+ hours to beat it.
I love Deus Ex too. I have Deus Ex for PS2 and for PC. The only other game that I have on both is Half Life. Did you play Deus Ex 2? I found it good but it ran like crap on my PC. Sorry I guess i'm getting off topic here.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 14, 2007, 05:35:57 AM
Only game to date which has made me play through it multiple times is Eternal Darkness because I wanted the final ending.
Post by: Smoke39 on February 14, 2007, 05:39:32 AM
Jack: They probably ARE pulling those numbers out of nowhere. Part of the early design phase is giving yourself specific goals. Usually, lots of stuff changes during actual implementation, as you get to experiment to see what actually works, and what you actually have time for, but you still make up specific numbers to begin with, for some reason (at least that's what they're teaching me in my game classes). If these guys are really as early in development as it seems, then they're just starting to hype their game uncommonly early.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on February 15, 2007, 12:25:28 AM
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Jack: They probably ARE pulling those numbers out of nowhere. Part of the early design phase is giving yourself specific goals. Usually, lots of stuff changes during actual implementation, as you get to experiment to see what actually works, and what you actually have time for, but you still make up specific numbers to begin with, for some reason (at least that's what they're teaching me in my game classes). If these guys are really as early in development as it seems, then they're just starting to hype their game uncommonly early.
I totally agree with setting goals, but you really don't announce them to other people. You could say, "We are planning on 15 hours of gameplay, and 10 multiple endings, but nothing has been finalized and we are still in our early stages of development." To me, that would let me know they aren't making promises, they are just setting goals. When you go to the press and say we are going to have x, y and z, you are making a promise. When you don't deliver a year or more from now (or ever) on that promise, people tend to get pissed over that, and throw a big fit because they heard one number once. Before I want to hear anything more about the game and what they want it to be, I want some screenshots and some hard proof that they have actually started doing something with it.
Planning can only take you so long before you actually start making something. It seems like they have been hacking away at this for a year already, and you are telling me you have nothing to show for it? That means two things to me, the first is that this game is going to take many years to finish being developed, and if it gets done any quicker it will more than likely be crap. I still don't believe that this game will ever be anything more than vaporware, but like I said, I hope they prove me wrong, because conceptually it looks very appealing.
Post by: ViewtifulJoe on February 15, 2007, 01:23:45 AM
Post by: Nick DiMola on February 15, 2007, 04:31:17 AM
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The quote is...AHEM "The developers say that the early game length estimate is around 15 hours and with 10 diffrent endings there will be enough endings to go around."
That still says nothing about goals and specifically says estimate. How are they estimating that? Magic? Seems more like a hope than an estimate.
Post by: Dirk Temporo on February 15, 2007, 06:13:40 AM
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Deus Ex(ceptionally Dull)...
You're going to hell.
Still off topic, but if you never played Invisible War, keep it that way. There's nothing good about that game except the lighting system. The story was crap, the gameplay was crap, and all four endings were crap. Also, it was crazy short. It took me a little over eight hours to beat the first time through, not using any hints or walkthroughs or anything.
On topic, I really hope this game isn't vaporware. It does sound interesting, despite the incredibly short play time.
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 15, 2007, 11:59:52 AM
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Length does not dictate pleasure, girth does.
Is time multidimensional?
Post by: Dirk Temporo on February 15, 2007, 03:40:28 PM
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Fifteen hours isn't incredible short. What's with these ridiculous length standards? Some of my favorite games of all time I can beat in five hours or less. Length does not dictate pleasure, girth does.
For ten different endings it is.
Post by: Smoke39 on February 15, 2007, 04:37:36 PM
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 16, 2007, 07:12:28 PM
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Deus Ex was the BOMB. I made sure to get all three endings in that one as well.
Only game to date which has made me play through it multiple times is Eternal Darkness because I wanted the final ending.
Deus Ex is HIGHLY overrated...Oh wait, I never played it.
I used to have a copy of the game, but never got around to playing it. Frankly, the game gets so much hype I am afraid that it will kill it for me.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on February 17, 2007, 10:33:54 AM
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Deux Ex is very well done but it's no Half-Life.
Deus Ex isn't even the same genre as Half-Life. FPRG Vs. FPS.
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Post by: Smoke39 on February 17, 2007, 11:13:42 AM
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It's a FPS with some RPG elements (at best).
You say that as though being a pure RPG is somehow superior. Deus Ex is like an RPG minus all the crap that makes RPGs suck.
Post by: Artimus on February 17, 2007, 12:41:26 PM
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It's a FPS with some RPG elements (at best).
You say that as though being a pure RPG is somehow superior. Deus Ex is like an RPG minus all the crap that makes RPGs suck.
No, it's like an FPS with a bunch of RPG elements added that don't really change the core game that much. And the endings were a total let down, 3 of them or not. Right up there with the Mario 64 cake as "least satisfying finale" in history.
Post by: Smoke39 on February 17, 2007, 06:52:56 PM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on February 18, 2007, 12:09:10 PM
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No, it's like an FPS with a bunch of RPG elements added that don't really change the core game that much. And the endings were a total let down, 3 of them or not. Right up there with the Mario 64 cake as "least satisfying finale" in history.
Deus Ex is more of an RPG than 95% of the games being labeled as RPGs nowadays.
And it's not an FPS with RPG elements. It's an RPG that happens to be first person, and have guns.
Post by: Artimus on February 18, 2007, 12:17:41 PM
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No, it's like an FPS with a bunch of RPG elements added that don't really change the core game that much. And the endings were a total let down, 3 of them or not. Right up there with the Mario 64 cake as "least satisfying finale" in history.
Deus Ex is more of an RPG than 95% of the games being labeled as RPGs nowadays.
And it's not an FPS with RPG elements. It's an RPG that happens to be first person, and have guns.
Silllllly. FPS is not a genre by those standards. Deux Ex is defined by it's shooting aspects. Take those away and it's not Deus Ex. Take the RPG elements away and it is. Same story, same gameplay, same experience. Just simpler and less unique.
Post by: MaryJane on February 18, 2007, 12:20:40 PM
Arrrrrgg you guys tricked me!
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Originally posted by: A lot of other people in this threadI hope this game isn't vaporware
I would disappointed if it was because it would show a lot of promises for the Wii and indie devs. It would be something if this was an elaborate joke, someone just decided to do this, and everynow and then they release a little info, another piece of art work, all the while laughing at our hopes and confusion.
Edit: I somehow managed to spell Deus Ex wrong
Post by: Dirk Temporo on February 19, 2007, 05:58:38 AM
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Silllllly. FPS is not a genre by those standards. Deux Ex is defined by it's shooting aspects.
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Take those away and it's not Deus Ex.Quote
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Take the RPG elements away and it is. Same story, same gameplay, same experience. Just simpler and less unique.
The fact that your choices impact all three of those things is exactly what makes it an RPG. I've played the game through countless times, and never had the same experience twice, because each time I always made different choices in the game. And choices are the root of all RPGs.
Are you sure that you weren't playing Invisible War? Because it really sounds like you're talking about Invisible War.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on February 20, 2007, 12:16:11 PM
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Only the moderators can access the "Trash Can" section... =3
Too late: the section is full to bursting with lolicon threads.
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Post by: MaryJane on February 23, 2007, 08:28:12 AM
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Originally posted by: MaryJane It would be something if this was an elaborate joke, someone just decided to do this, and everynow and then they release a little info, another piece of art work, all the while laughing at our hopes and confusion.
The more artwork they release the more I think I was right.
Post by: Crimm on February 23, 2007, 08:46:41 AM
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When will they start releasing actual screenshots and footage??
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
