Post by: Requiem on July 13, 2006, 12:18:27 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 13, 2006, 01:01:59 PM
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: couchmonkey on July 13, 2006, 01:19:58 PM
Post by: nemo_83 on July 13, 2006, 01:37:42 PM
I wouldn't mind if they went back and remade RE2 with eye popping prerendered backgrounds Rebirth style, allowing them to focus the wee amount of power they have on the real time characters; I would totally buy that again. Factor in the Wii aiming, flash light, 2D character movement using the dpad; perhaps dual wielding of nude remotes. The game was built for the dpad.
I'm afraid what we will get though is Capcom trying to shovel a lightgun game on us. Not cool. I want either a full fledged shooter or a back to the basics Zelda dungeon-esque Resident Evil.
Post by: Artimus on July 13, 2006, 01:56:54 PM
Post by: Requiem on July 13, 2006, 02:09:43 PM
It's genious!
Post by: Ceric on July 13, 2006, 05:38:52 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 13, 2006, 06:10:03 PM
Ef'ing YouLube and their godaweful video quality.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 13, 2006, 08:52:24 PM
Feel free to get your own hosting and upload your videos at full quality.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 13, 2006, 09:21:58 PM
Post by: Michael8983 on July 14, 2006, 12:45:14 AM
Unfortunately, doing so was a pain in the ass thanks to the clumbsy controls but that's why RE Wii has so much potential.
Imagine this. You enter a small room and look it over with Wii-mote controlled flash-light. All seems calm. You begin to search around. All of a sudden a hidden zombie leaps out at you. It scares the sh*t out of you but you react instantly pressing a button to switch from flashlight to pistol, aim the Wii-mote, and pull the trigger and hope to blow its head off. If you miss it grabs onto you. Perhaps it bites into your arm and you wave the Wii-mote frantically to shake it off. Or it goes for your neck and you thrust the Wii-mote towards the screen to push it away. Another button switches from pistol to knife and you swipe the Wii-mote until the zombie backs off just momentarily giving you just a moment to switch back to your pistol and try for a better shot.
No more clumbsy controls that plagued the original RE. No more open space like in RE4 to give you the upper hand. This is what RE was meant to be IMO.
Post by: Requiem on July 14, 2006, 03:35:09 AM
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Originally posted by: Michael8983
I like the mansion setting as opposed to the more open settings of more recent titles. Resident Evil 4 sacraficed the scary by giving you so much room to run from enemies. You could simply run to a safe distance, turn and shoot from safety. It gave you a sense of control. The original Resident Evil wasn't like that which is why it was ten times scarier. It was all confined spaces. You never ran from the enemies. You sometimes escaped by running to the nearest door but you could potentially find something even more horrific on the other side. You rarely if ever had time to pace yourself and take down a threat from a distance. Really the game came down to keeping your nerves and reacting quickly enough to take down threats that would come at you without warning. Leaping in from windows, rising out of bathtubs, etc...
Unfortunately, doing so was a pain in the ass thanks to the clumbsy controls but that's why RE Wii has so much potential.
Imagine this. You enter a small room and look it over with Wii-mote controlled flash-light. All seems calm. You begin to search around. All of a sudden a hidden zombie leaps out at you. It scares the sh*t out of you but you react instantly pressing a button to switch from flashlight to pistol, aim the Wii-mote, and pull the trigger and hope to blow its head off. If you miss it grabs onto you. Perhaps it bites into your arm and you wave the Wii-mote frantically to shake it off. Or it goes for your neck and you thrust the Wii-mote towards the screen to push it away. Another button switches from pistol to knife and you swipe the Wii-mote until the zombie backs off just momentarily giving you just a moment to switch back to your pistol and try for a better shot.
No more clumbsy controls that plagued the original RE. No more open space like in RE4 to give you the upper hand. This is what RE was meant to be IMO.
Do you know how hard it would be to aim ACCURATELY with the Wiimote indoors?
It would be impossible.
Unless there is room for the camera to shoot behind you, it would be impossible. All those terrible camera angles and awkward cinematic shots plauged the pre-RE4 games. I'd almost aways die because I either couldn't see a damn Zombie that was hangin out around the corner, or the camera angle completely abolished any chance of me shooting the damn zombie (why the hell is the camera behind a desk lamp? I can't see sh*t!). And that's not the worst thing about those games. Those horrible digital controls completely ****ed everything up. RE4 controls sucked, but it wasn't as noticeable because you actually had room to run and the camera didn't suck ass.
My vision of the next RE is simple:
1. Keep the view close to Leon, or whoever, always. No more cinematic shoots unless there are no enemies around or I am about to enter a cut-scene. I think the over-the-shoulder view worked perfectly for almost every situation.
2. Have a good mixture of indoor and outdoor areas (like 1 to 1). For example, one area could be a village which has you explore many houses and grassy fields.
3. Let the Wiimote control Leon's arm (you can choose which one). If I drop the controller to my side, let Leon do the same. Have the "B" button toggle between the flashlight and whatever firearm you have equipped (you will visibly see him hold both). When you take aim with your gun by pressing "A", your flashlight will automatically focus on whatever your aiming at. If Leon cannot hold both the weapon and flashlight, then you cannot switch between them. However, you can buy a flashlight upgrade that allows you to fix your flashlight on top of your weapon.
4. Have an aiming circle or laser or something. It would be much easier to see how sensitive your aim is if you could drag a pointer around the screen. Of course, you have the option to turn it off as well as adjust your sensitivity.
5. No more digital controls. Analogue everything. No more run button either; let the joystick do it's job. Also, no more button combination to turn; instead, use a button combination to back-up. Like while your aiming (by holding "A"), you can walk backwards by holding back on the joystick. Actually, you could walk anywhere by pushing the joystick in any position. Of course, you can't run while aiming.
I guess it wasn't that simple afterall.
Post by: Terranigma Freak on July 14, 2006, 04:20:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
The idea that a game isn't a 'true' Resident Evil is silly. You can only remake the same game so many times. Move on people! And NO MORE REMAKES. Honestly, we've had way too many remakes.
This is CAPCOM we're talking about here. Second of all, there's already rumors hinting this game will be a remake of either RE4 (with the PS2 stuff added in), RE2, or a Gun Survivor game. Normally I wouldn't trust rumors, but this is Capcom we're talking about here. They'll find some way to screw over Nintendo fans.
Post by: Ceric on July 14, 2006, 06:21:30 AM
Oh, Flashlight mount upgrade? Ductape.
Post by: nemo_83 on July 14, 2006, 02:43:07 PM
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on July 14, 2006, 08:10:07 PM
Oh yeah...Resident Evil for Wii. I'm guessing it'll be a RE4 remake with slightly-improved graphics and a new interface. Oh, and the giggling dwarf will be even SHORTER, with an even FRILLIER costume. Think Leon's haircut couldn't be any less befitting an action hero? Then brother, you haven't experienced RESIDENT EVIL 4: Director's Cut: Turbo.
Post by: EasyCure on July 15, 2006, 07:34:05 AM
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Originally posted by: ReverendNoahWhateley
Actually, I thought that RE4 was, initially, pretty scary. You felt isolated in an extremely insular and remote community. Honestly, until the game drifted into mesmeric worms, giggling Napoleonic dwarfs and something about a paramilitary coup, I thought it was brilliant. I was SO hoping that this time Capcom was going for Texas Chainsaw Massacre/Deliverance over Night of the Living Dead. But nope...I want inbred psychopaths, I get hypno-worms. Bah. Story of my life.
Oh yeah...Resident Evil for Wii. I'm guessing it'll be a RE4 remake with slightly-improved graphics and a new interface. Oh, and the giggling dwarf will be even SHORTER, with an even FRILLIER costume. Think Leon's haircut couldn't be any less befitting an action hero? Then brother, you haven't experienced RESIDENT EVIL 4: Director's Cut: Turbo Alpha
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Post by: Requiem on March 10, 2007, 08:02:19 PM
Inafune interested in making a game using the RE4 engine.
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Post by: Pittbboi on March 10, 2007, 08:31:33 PM
I just hope they update engine to take advantage of the Wii's significant graphic superiority over the Gamecube. RE4 is a gorgeous game, but it's gorgeous for the Gamecube. We should expect a lot more with the Wii, especially with an already established engine.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on March 10, 2007, 08:47:24 PM
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One: The mansion is bogus. How many RE's have you played have had a mansion? My point exactly.
I don't see your point, or what you're trying to say here. MOST RE games have had mansions or something similar (police station and cruise ship look pretty much the same). I'm not sure if you're saying you want a change, or what... in terms of atmosphere, I think the RE1 remake was best, or maybe even the original version or Outbreak file 1. Personally, I could go for either indoors or outdoors, as long as there's less boring lab areas, as seen in pretty much every pre-RE4 game in the series.
Quote(A) BAIL OUT
Two: The camera and movement is way to apprehensive. Scary things move fast and quick and if you can't react quickly, then your dead.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 11, 2007, 05:02:39 AM
Post by: Requiem on March 11, 2007, 05:26:28 AM
I mean that the whole mansion scene is played out. The next RE should incorporate both indoor and outdoor areas (aka, both restrictive and non-restrictive areas).
Plus, I find walking through the woods at night with only a flashlight scarier than walking through a house. However, walking through the woods to get to an abandoned house far scarier than both. The house could have windows and holes in the roof to let the moonlight in.
Post by: optimisticlimbo on March 11, 2007, 07:16:06 PM
Despite that, RE4 is my favorite Resident Evil and I'm really excited to see what can happen with the Wii. I couldn't stand the clunky d-pad controls of the older ones.
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 12, 2007, 02:39:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Requiem Plus, I find walking through the woods at night with only a flashlight scarier than walking through a house. However, walking through the woods to get to an abandoned house far scarier than both. The house could have windows and holes in the roof to let the moonlight in.
Agreed.
That sensation is definitely freakier than knowing you have walls to prevent the attack by monsters from all sides.
Post by: segagamer12 on March 12, 2007, 10:07:50 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 12, 2007, 11:13:42 AM
don't kill the zombies, side-step them.
Post by: ThePerm on March 13, 2007, 07:15:34 AM
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Post by: Requiem on April 03, 2007, 08:57:42 PM
I'm actually very disappointed that it's FPV. Over-the-shoulder worked so well that it's a shame it's leaving so soon.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 04, 2007, 02:53:07 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 04, 2007, 04:04:07 AM
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Post by: Smash_Brother on April 04, 2007, 06:00:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Yes you can, considering Dead Aim isn't on rails like this is...If anything, the mechanics should work better, even though it's not classic Resident Evil...I'll cross my fingers for this one...
It depends.
If the screen is constantly moving, like in a lightgun game, then I don't have much faith, considering lightgun games tend to be far too short.
If you control all movement, it might not be so bad. I mean, as long as you can explore the levels at your own pace, it'll be fine. I don't care if the screen stays locked in the middle of the hallway, just that I can stop and turn around at any time I want.
1st person can still be fun, especially since it puts the game more in the hands of the player because it'll be more like you're personally being attacked by enemies. I wonder if you can be knocked to the ground by a devil dog while it attacks you and see it all from 1st person...
(yes, my friends and I call them devil dogs).
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Post by: Requiem on April 04, 2007, 07:45:48 AM
If so, then I'm fine with that. I love that game.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 04, 2007, 12:43:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
The interesting thing is that in some of the screens you see Chris and Jill together, so multiplayer might not be out of the question!
As a matter of fact, you see both Chris and Jill in two screens depicting scenes from the first RE game which are typically encountered alone. For example, the first zombie you see in the game which is leaning over a dead stars member eating him is a cutscene which you see alone. However, one of the screenshots CLEARLY shows the scene unfolding with both Chris and Jill aiming at the zombie. The other one is a devil dog leaping into a hallway and attacking you.
So yes, I think it's pretty clear that we'll be having multiplayer in this. It'll have to involve a minor rewrite of some of the events, but 0-3 have all had two characters who could be controlled by the players (with 3 having Jill and Carlos).
And finally, a survival horror where the mantra of "Let's stick together" actually may apply.
Post by: Viewtiful mario on April 04, 2007, 05:35:47 PM
This game sounds like it's going to be story driven so I'm pretty shure the game will have more meat on it then people mey think.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 04, 2007, 05:49:55 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 04, 2007, 05:56:54 PM
And the worlds from each game were only big becuz your characters were so slow.
The RE Remake can be beaten as Chris Redfield without cheats typically in 2-3 hours, based on memorization and speed tactics.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 04, 2007, 05:58:46 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 04, 2007, 06:02:46 PM
Post by: Jin-X on April 04, 2007, 06:19:26 PM
So Capcom support is RE4 port (which now loses it's luster since it was like they were prepping us for RE:UC, except now its a better game), some RE gun survivor spin-off crap and Treasure Island Z, while they get Inafune to make new IPs built from the ground up for the 360.
The stage is now set for them to make the "M rater games don't sell on Wii" when Mario Galaxy rightfully blows UC sales out of the water by like 20:1.
The big difference now from last gen is that their excuses for GC games not selling and then stop making games for the GC is that back then it didn't hurt their bottom line since the PS2 had a much larger install base. Now the Wii will be the one on top (will pass 360 this year) and be the top dog, so if they don't start giving their best effort and keep half-assing it, they (and other 3rd parties) will be the ones that get screwed in their bottom line.
Post by: Mario on April 04, 2007, 07:36:11 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 04, 2007, 08:01:33 PM
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Originally posted by: Jin-X
Man this really fuc**** sucks. Now its almost like Shiggy's comments were inspired by him learning this. We are getting, at best, a second rate RE game while the 360 and PS3 get the real game.
So Capcom support is RE4 port (which now loses it's luster since it was like they were prepping us for RE:UC, except now its a better game), some RE gun survivor spin-off crap and Treasure Island Z, while they get Inafune to make new IPs built from the ground up for the 360.
The stage is now set for them to make the "M rater games don't sell on Wii" when Mario Galaxy rightfully blows UC sales out of the water by like 20:1.
The big difference now from last gen is that their excuses for GC games not selling and then stop making games for the GC is that back then it didn't hurt their bottom line since the PS2 had a much larger install base. Now the Wii will be the one on top (will pass 360 this year) and be the top dog, so if they don't start giving their best effort and keep half-assing it, they (and other 3rd parties) will be the ones that get screwed in their bottom line.
Nintendo is doomed....
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!
*NOTE: I would kill for the pic of Bender saying it...
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 05, 2007, 02:35:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario Since there are Crimson Heads in the game it can't be fully on rails because you'd need to backtrack to see them.
They could just be zombies you encounter later or something. Since Jill and Chris are exploring the mansion together, there's no reason they couldn't rewrite that part as well.
Though, in one of the pictures with the snake on the ground in the library, you can see a glinting object which means that collecting items is still a part of the game.
I just hope this isn't done by shooting them or something...
But yeah, it's way too early to judge, mainly because I don't know how Capcom plans to pull this off, since the Wiimote isn't a lightgun and doesn't really work as one without some kind of accessory. I suppose you could sight along the center of the d-pad, but even that doesn't work terribly well.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 05, 2007, 05:17:30 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
Nintendo is doomed....
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!
*NOTE: I would kill for the pic of Bender saying it...
Do I get to pick who you kill?
Sorry, pap, S_B ruined it for you.
Google image search is your friend.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 05, 2007, 05:28:57 AM
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Originally posted by: PartyBear I would kill for the pic of Bender saying it...
PB fails.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 05, 2007, 06:07:03 AM
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Originally posted by: PartyBearQuote
Originally posted by: pap64
Nintendo is doomed....
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!
*NOTE: I would kill for the pic of Bender saying it...
Do I get to pick who you kill?
Sorry, pap, S_B ruined it for you.
Google image search is your friend.
What NO!!
That was the EXACT image I was looking for! The pic of Bender with Gold Bender saying doomed!
Thanks a lot SB, you killjoy...
*Grumbles grumbles
Post by: Jin-X on April 05, 2007, 06:35:16 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 05, 2007, 06:43:35 AM
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Originally posted by: Jin-X
I dont know what kind of Capcom kool-aid some of you are drinking, but its fairly obvious from the description of the game that this is at best a second rate RE game. It's not RE4 - 2, not even close, its a Dead Aim/Gun Survivor type game. All of the RE spin-offs game have been average AT BEST, usually they just flat-out suck. Code Veronica is not a spin-off since it plays just like the other RE games and it's part of the main storyline.
First of all, thanks for belittling the people who have a little hope for this game. Our beef with you is that you are coming to a conclusion that the game will suck and that Capcom put little effort into it without even playing it or even seeing some decent footage of it. All we have is some vague description of the gameplay and some screens that range from gameplay to cutscenes.
Its true that the spin off games have been questionable, but simply because they were bad it doesn't necessarily mean that UC will be bad as well.
Again, wait till some concrete footage of the game is released along with better details, THEN you can draw conclusions.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 05, 2007, 07:32:46 AM
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Originally posted by: Jin-X
I dont know what kind of Capcom kool-aid some of you are drinking, but its fairly obvious from the description of the game that this is at best a second rate RE game. It's not RE4 - 2, not even close, its a Dead Aim/Gun Survivor type game. All of the RE spin-offs game have been average AT BEST, usually they just flat-out suck. Code Veronica is not a spin-off since it plays just like the other RE games and it's part of the main storyline.
Well I don't know about you but Capcom is doing an awesome job with console games and DS games lately, seriously let the developers do their thing and then whine and bitch at the game after you PLAY it. The only games in the RE universe I thought that completely sucked were the Outbreak games since it had a good concept there was A LOT to be desired and plus Capcom is cutting the servers to those games so you have to play the single player portion of the game which is stupid.
But I have faith in Capcom since I think they are using RE:4 Wii ed. to test out the waters with an awesome existing game and then use the things they learned about the Wii from RE4 and then apply that effort to RE:UC.
Post by: oohhboy on April 05, 2007, 07:44:23 AM
Post by: Adrock on April 05, 2007, 08:27:37 AM
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Jin-X wrote:
while they get Inafune to make new IPs built from the ground up for the 360.
Last I read, Keiji Inafune is working on a Wii title and it's not Treasure Island Z.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 05, 2007, 08:33:35 AM
It'll have standard pointy-shooty control just like so many other games already on Wii. But apparently someone translated you have the option of free-look, which means the screen doesn't totally move on its own.
In addition, I expect additional melee combat since that's something the Remote lends itself to. Was pistol-whipping allowed in the Gun Survivor games? I don't recall, cuz I didn't bother with them.
Post by: vudu on April 05, 2007, 08:48:05 AM
Post by: Jin-X on April 05, 2007, 09:03:05 AM
Last time I heard, Treasure Island Z is Inafune's game but it was said by the Capcom employee that writes in their forums so it could be he got things mixed up.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 05, 2007, 09:38:04 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
So has it been confirmed yet that this game is a port of Deadly Silence? I want to swing my remote like a knife. SLASH SLASH
MULTIPLAYER KNIFING
Let's relive our greatest knife fights from the movies COMMANDO and UNDER SIEGE!
"C'MON, BENEDICT. PUT AWAY THE CHICKEN SH!T GUN. USE THE KNIFE *RAISES KNIFE* I KNOW YOU WANT TO STICK IT RIGHT BEHIND MY EYE"
"OH YES, I'M GOING TO KILLLLLLL YOOOOOOOO"
Post by: AwesomeMan on April 05, 2007, 11:32:24 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
It'll have standard pointy-shooty control just like so many other games already on Wii. But apparently someone translated you have the option of free-look, which means the screen doesn't totally move on its own.
but what exactly do they mean by 'free-look' in Panzer Dragoon(best onrail shooter series ever) you can look around you by pressing L/R so you can shoot in 360* instead on just infront of you.
i made myself want PD for Wii even more...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 05, 2007, 12:06:23 PM
I'm talking free look as in the usual look at your environment at practically any angle that's inherent in FPS games and the first-person views in the 3D Zeldas -- that is, you decide what the camera looks at, which isn't the case at all in light-gun games. Free look doesn't make sense in games that are truly on-rails since your body would continue moving forward uncontrollably while your gun and eyes could be 180-deg the other way, while you can't see what you're walking into. In the back of a moving truck, it'd work, but as a walking person? Nah I fully expect you to trip and fall down a flight of stairs and die.
But free look makes sense in killer7's context. Walk forward when you need to (w/ quick turn around option). Free aim to target vital points when it's time to get down to bizniss. No blind aiming or awkwardly running into walls and furniture, completely unlike the old RE games. AND no pointless, awkward running into the stage scenery to look for hidden items that likely don't exist, avoid constant "There's nothing unusual about this" type of messages.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 05, 2007, 01:36:03 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64
What NO!!
That was the EXACT image I was looking for! The pic of Bender with Gold Bender saying doomed!
Thanks a lot SB, you killjoy...
*Grumbles grumbles
Type in "bender doomed" into google and this is the first picture, which is what PB posted.
However, I called it because Bender is NOT saying doomed in the picture.
Post by: Viewtiful mario on April 05, 2007, 03:00:19 PM
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I dont know what kind of Capcom kool-aid some of you are drinking, but its fairly obvious from the description of the game that this is at best a second rate RE game. It's not RE4 - 2, not even close, its a Dead Aim/Gun Survivor type game. All of the RE spin-offs game have been average AT BEST, usually they just flat-out suck. Code Veronica is not a spin-off since it plays just like the other RE games and it's part of the main storyline.
It's funny that you seem to know exactly how it plays with only a few sentences of info, how do you know it'sll be a Dead aim/Survivor game with such little information?
Think about it, the difference between this game and other RE spinoffs is that this one actually tells the main story of the RE seres (just as code veronica did like You yourself said) while the other ones were just sidestories that don't add anything to the overall plot. UC is suppose to fill in a bunch of gaps that were left in the story from RE 0-4 and if such a big part of the overall story will be told that way, I don't think Capcom is going to half ass this.
Here's a riddle for ya: What's th difference between Umbrella Cronicles and all other RE spinoffs?
Wesker.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 05, 2007, 03:48:31 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: pap64
What NO!!
That was the EXACT image I was looking for! The pic of Bender with Gold Bender saying doomed!
Thanks a lot SB, you killjoy...
*Grumbles grumbles
Type in "bender doomed" into google and this is the first picture, which is what PB posted.
However, I called it because Bender is NOT saying doomed in the picture.
Gah, whenever I searched I typed "Futurama Bender doomed".
As for Bender not saying doomed in the pic, huh? What are you talking about?
Both Benders are clearly saying it.
That's where I got the joke.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 05, 2007, 05:54:21 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 05, 2007, 06:06:38 PM
But technically they weren't saying it IN the picture, so I fixed that:
And on the subject of Wesker, what's his first name?
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 05, 2007, 06:10:55 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
No sh*t. I never knew they used the joke a second time. Sorry, PB: the fail was all mine.
But technically they weren't saying it IN the picture, so I fixed that:
And on the subject of Wesker, what's his first name?
Actually, I made my own version, but yours is far better
.As for Wesker's name, his first name is Albert. Albert Wesker.
Post by: IceCold on April 05, 2007, 06:11:37 PM
QuoteLooking good!
Originally posted by: pap64
Some new screens here.
Post by: Viewtiful mario on April 05, 2007, 06:22:50 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 05, 2007, 06:49:18 PM
Post by: AwesomeMan on April 05, 2007, 11:39:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
if that's Panzer's idea of free look, they're... WRONG.
i know it's not really a free look or much camera controll at all, but the translation could be a bit off(like they usually are).
i would love to make my character fall down the stairs...
Post by: Mario on April 05, 2007, 11:59:43 PM
Incredible (short) trailer, everyone watch
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 06, 2007, 08:04:43 AM
Man, a lightgun game where you need to conserve ammunition? Gonna be interesting, especially if your partner is an idiot.
Post by: vudu on April 06, 2007, 08:18:09 AM
QuoteWe can only hope there's an option to share the same ammo container.
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Man, a lightgun game where you need to conserve ammunition? Gonna be interesting, especially if your partner is an idiot.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 06, 2007, 08:20:29 AM
Post by: Kairon on April 06, 2007, 08:23:27 AM
I've actually done a bit of thinking, and I'm willing to give this game the benefit of the doubt. I've been seriously disinterested in RE games for the longest time, but maybe this lightgun game will be just the bit of fun, arcadey, zombie shooting thing I'd enjoy as opposed to a regular RE adventure.
That said, I actually don't hold out much hope for this game's sales.
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 06, 2007, 08:28:58 AM
Games are tests of skill and skill is rewarded with success. In a lightgun game, skill = accuracy, ergo it's safe to assume that accuracy will be rewarded in this game. To what extent, I don't know, but if the game is a lightgun game, then accuracy will play a big role in succeeding.
Post by: Ceric on April 06, 2007, 08:32:49 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2007, 08:33:30 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2007, 08:39:01 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 06, 2007, 08:39:42 AM
Truth be told, the Wiimote can already be used (via calibration) and can be held like a gun, so why wait?
I'm such a lightgun whore that I'd probably buy all of these games anyway, and I'd kill for Konami's Warzaid (4 players vs. WWII zombies!).
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2007, 09:30:01 AM
Can you imagine it? All the light-gun whining would be put to rest CUZ BARRY DOES NOT NEED NO STINKING GUN. BARRY IS MAN ENOUGH TO TEAR ZOMBIE HEADS OFF WITH HIS BEAR HANDS.
HELL, INCLUDE A BONUS MISSION WHERE HE TEAMS UP WITH REGGIE. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE ASS-KICKING AND NAME-TAKING THEY'D DO IN THAT MANSION?
IT WOULD MAKE BLACKHAND EDITION LOOK LIKE A DEPRESSING TAE-BO WORKOUT
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2007, 10:57:42 AM
Capcom's giving us the shaft when it comes to real-time cutscenes.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 06, 2007, 03:32:03 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 06, 2007, 04:27:11 PM
I've no doubt that Capcom can make this game gorgeous.
Post by: Blue Plant on April 06, 2007, 04:33:44 PM
Post by: Kairon on April 06, 2007, 04:35:31 PM
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Post by: Smash_Brother on April 06, 2007, 04:35:53 PM
At least with the Wii, everyone already has the necessary hardware. This was no doubt a huge factor in their decision to make it for Wii.
Post by: Viewtiful mario on April 06, 2007, 04:54:21 PM
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Just to burst bubbles, a bunch of the character images we've seen so far are just FMV.
How do you know that? The Wii's more powerful then you think. I'm pretty shure there in game.
Post by: Arbok on April 06, 2007, 05:15:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Viewtiful mario
How do you know that? The Wii's more powerful then you think. I'm pretty shure there in game.
I'd say the part with Rebecca and the coiled snake, if nothing else, is clearly not real time.
Post by: Louieturkey on April 06, 2007, 06:16:41 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 06, 2007, 06:20:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Just to burst bubbles, a bunch of the character images we've seen so far are just FMV.
Capcom's giving us the shaft when it comes to real-time cutscenes.
You might be right.
They just released high res, clear screenshots of the game found here, and you can tell that the FMV shots are very rounded while the real time shots have clippings and jaggies on them.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 06, 2007, 07:20:59 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2007, 10:47:48 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64Quote
Originally posted by: Professional 666
Just to burst bubbles, a bunch of the character images we've seen so far are just FMV.
Capcom's giving us the shaft when it comes to real-time cutscenes.
You might be right.
They just released high res, clear screenshots of the game found here, and you can tell that the FMV shots are very rounded while the real time shots have clippings and jaggies on them.
It's a relief to see someone capable of THINKING! The rest of you, STOP THINKING.
I'll also repeat myself from 2004 that the entire GF Trooper Massacre sequence in MP2 Eches was also FMV. The kiddies in the Luminoth Temple didn't believe me, but good riddance to them.
Post by: Jin-X on April 07, 2007, 03:15:17 PM
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I dont know what kind of Capcom kool-aid some of you are drinking, but its fairly obvious from the description of the game that this is at best a second rate RE game. It's not RE4 - 2, not even close, its a Dead Aim/Gun Survivor type game. All of the RE spin-offs game have been average AT BEST, usually they just flat-out suck. Code Veronica is not a spin-off since it plays just like the other RE games and it's part of the main storyline.
It's funny that you seem to know exactly how it plays with only a few sentences of info, how do you know it'sll be a Dead aim/Survivor game with such little information?
Think about it, the difference between this game and other RE spinoffs is that this one actually tells the main story of the RE seres (just as code veronica did like You yourself said) while the other ones were just sidestories that don't add anything to the overall plot. UC is suppose to fill in a bunch of gaps that were left in the story from RE 0-4 and if such a big part of the overall story will be told that way, I don't think Capcom is going to half ass this.
Here's a riddle for ya: What's th difference between Umbrella Cronicles and all other RE spinoffs?
Wesker.
Because we all know Code Veronica is on rails...
Post by: Maverick on April 07, 2007, 07:07:27 PM
Post by: the1st_fret on April 07, 2007, 11:05:36 PM
I really hope the Wii gets Resi 5. We know Graphics can't stand in the way anymore since 360 games have already appeared on Wii. They might not look as good but at least you can still play them.
I was a bit freaked when I heard Umb.C was gonna be on rails. And I still am. I was really hoping it would control just like Resi 4. But I see now that they want to change the style with each game. Umb.C is the end of Umbrella so where does Resi 5 fit in? I think it daft that Nintendo worked so hard to bring Nintendo fans up to speed with the series, Remakes and even releasing the 2nd and 3rd 'playstaion' games on the Cube. Then not bringing us the 5th which after #4 looks like it'll be a crucial chapter. I really don't want to have to buy a 360 just for Resi 5
Controls: I was hoping this is how it'd work if #5 came to Wii (since Umb.C is on rails i'll move my control plot to 5.)
Aiming: pointing at the screen puts your gun up (no aim button to hold) and B to fire. To aim point at the screen and to turn the camera (just like on 4) use the Thumbstick. So its the same as 4. But instead of your aim just being locked in the centre you have the ability to point out.
I think this would be pretty flawless, using the thumbstick for the camera, since you can't move while you aim anyway.
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 09, 2007, 06:22:07 AM
Quotewrong, RE3 Jill appears in the trailer :3
Originally posted by: Louieturkey
There is absolutely no footage of 3 and CV in this trailer.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 13, 2007, 04:39:40 AM
New Trailer from Japan
Post by: WuTangTurtle on April 13, 2007, 07:58:20 AM
Post by: MLS_man_64 on April 13, 2007, 08:41:57 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 13, 2007, 08:42:33 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 13, 2007, 09:34:47 AM
Also, the careless use of ammo to blast apart the surroundings says to me that this won't be like former REs which involve heavy ammo conservation.
Post by: vudu on April 13, 2007, 10:41:52 AM
QuoteUnless ammo is plentiful on easy mode.
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Also, the careless use of ammo to blast apart the surroundings says to me that this won't be like former REs which involve heavy ammo conservation.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 13, 2007, 01:08:42 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on April 13, 2007, 03:11:19 PM
Post by: Artimus on April 13, 2007, 03:18:34 PM
Post by: Ceric on April 13, 2007, 03:47:01 PM
Post by: Kairon on April 13, 2007, 03:47:16 PM
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Post by: Smash_Brother on April 13, 2007, 03:57:06 PM
I'll give it a rent before a buy, but it does look cool.
Post by: Artimus on April 13, 2007, 04:22:10 PM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 13, 2007, 05:28:20 PM
Post by: Viewtiful mario on April 13, 2007, 05:45:36 PM
It sadens me how so many people are dissing this game (I'm looking at you joystiq) just because it's not a traditional RE game, Capcom should've just said it was on rails in the first place so people wouldn't have gotten there hopes up too high. I think there's more to this game then people are giving it credit for. It's suppose to be 15-20 hours long so it won't be over too quickly, being able to glance around with the anelog stick reveals hidden secrets so there is some replay value, and IGN said numerous people died while playing the demo so it'll have difficulty. Not to mention it's remaking stages from RE2 and 3 in glorious Wii powered 3-D with has never been done before with thoes games, along with all new stages. Just imagin what feirce bossis await in the Umbrella Compound.
Speaking of Bosses, how cool whould it be to fight a giant scorpion, a giant centipede, a giant bat, Multiple version of the Tyrant, 1 or both versions of the Queen Leech, a giant Shark, Plant 42, that Lisa Trevor freak thingy, Lickers, a giant Alligator, whatever forms of William Birkin they decide to through out, Brain Suckers, giant worms, and best of all NEMISIS all in a rail shooting action packed boss fights. Just think of how awsome it'll be fighting an updated modle of Nemisis and have him chase you from door to door to door.
Think of what we'll be getting here and I think you'll find reson to be excited.
Post by: IceCold on April 13, 2007, 06:19:05 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 13, 2007, 06:32:22 PM
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Count me excited for this one! Viewtiful Mario has some good points - the length and difficulty and controls sound good. I'm a bit worried it will get monotonous though.. Any word on multiplayer?
I read on an interview that the creators "are still working on it".
Maybe its just me, but I have the hunch the game will not include it. I mean, if the creators are already like "Uh we are still like working on it" it just screams that they are not. If the game had multiplayer they would be saying "While we are still working on it the game will feature 2 player multiplayer".
Post by: oohhboy on April 13, 2007, 06:34:59 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 13, 2007, 07:07:00 PM
Quoteprobably not happening, as the RE games have English voices on all releases...
Originally posted by: Ceric
Looks good. I hope they have the option to switch to Japanese voices with English subtext like Sega did in Sonic and the Secret Ring.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on April 13, 2007, 07:41:37 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 13, 2007, 09:27:08 PM
RE UC seems to be the ultimate marriage of new tech combined with PS1-era voice acting.
NOW SERVING JILL SANDWICHES
Post by: ShyGuy on April 13, 2007, 09:49:03 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 13, 2007, 11:11:21 PM
Post by: WalkingTheCow on April 13, 2007, 11:57:05 PM
Seriouslly though, this looks like a good time. I'm just not sure it's going to be a game I want to pay full price for. . . As long as it's not too short and throws in enough variety I'm sure I'll end up eventually picking this one up.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 14, 2007, 04:56:41 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
The PS2 is not advanced enough to enable RE4's innovations. Cube exclusive it is.
Fix'd
Post by: Viewtiful mario on April 14, 2007, 05:30:21 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuyQuote
Originally posted by: Professional 666
The PS2 is not advanced enough to enable RE4's innovations. Cube exclusive it is.
Fix'd
lol
It mey not be when it launches but It mey possibly come eventually, they've got RE4:WE and UC to leanrn how to use the controls. It mey be a bit of a gamble because bringing down RE4 to the Wii's level will probably take as much time and resourses as the REmake for the gamecube.
Post by: Tansunn on April 14, 2007, 06:53:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Viewtiful mario
It mey be a bit of a gamble because bringing down RE4 to the Wii's level will probably take as much time and resourses as the REmake for the gamecube.
All the models and levels for RE4 are already created, and there isn't much that can be done to improve them except maybe slightly higher polycount models and higher res textures (unlikely), unlike when they remade RE for the GCN and remade EVERYTHING, as well as added more environments. Pretty much all they'd have to do is recode the game to take advantage of the Wii controls and maybe upscale a few things to fit the native 16:9 display.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 14, 2007, 07:32:19 AM
Post by: Artimus on April 14, 2007, 08:40:52 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
The Cube RE4 charactrer models has around 10,000 polygons. Compare this to Perfect Dark Zero character models on the 360, which had around 5000 polygons. On the flipside, the character models for Manhunt2 seem to be made of about 14 polygons.
Wow, it's nice to see Rockstar is finally improving their visuals. Not that I don't appreciate their "less is easier" approach, but it's nice to see them challenging themselves by leaping over the 10-polygon barrier.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2007, 08:52:18 AM
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Originally posted by: ArtimusQuote
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
The Cube RE4 charactrer models has around 10,000 polygons. Compare this to Perfect Dark Zero character models on the 360, which had around 5000 polygons. On the flipside, the character models for Manhunt2 seem to be made of about 14 polygons.
Wow, it's nice to see Rockstar is finally improving their visuals. Not that I don't appreciate their "less is easier" approach, but it's nice to see them challenging themselves by leaping over the 10-polygon barrier.
Yeah, maybe then, the characters will have FINGERS!
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 14, 2007, 09:05:15 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64 Yeah, maybe then, the characters will have FINGERS!
You've been spoiled by Wii Play.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2007, 09:41:58 AM
Anyways, I just saw the IGN gameplay footage and the gameplay so allows for 2 player. I mean, Jill and Chris are always together, both constantly talk about what is going on and the cutscenes show the both of them interacting with the monsters.
Why are the developers so unsure about the feature? Just add the damn thing and say "Yes, multiplayer is coming".
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2007, 09:50:23 AM
Oh hey, maybe if EITHER PLAYER dies, then it's an automatic game over?
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 14, 2007, 09:55:00 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
I haven't played Wii Play...
The joke is that the Miis in Wii Play, a graphically weak game, have fingers whereas many of Rockstar's models still lack them.
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Cuz when your partner (ie: Smash Bro)
Actually, I'll be playing this game another friend who lives here if they do include multiplayer in it.
I don't see why they wouldn't, though, as lightgun games are typically at least two player and it's immensely easy to add a second interface for a second player.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2007, 10:04:31 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
I haven't played Wii Play...
The joke is that the Miis in Wii Play, a graphically weak game, have fingers whereas many of Rockstar's models still lack them.
I knew the Miis in Wii Play had fingers. I was just being cold about the joke.
And Pro, they are already messing with the story by adding a second character. I mean, if I am not mistaken, Jill and Chris' adventures in the mansion were very different and only encountered each other on a rare occasion. UC throws the continuity out of the window by placing the two of them on the same scenes. So its not like they destroy the series if they make it so that for the story's sake the player "dies" but the character lives and moves the story along.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 14, 2007, 10:35:45 AM
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Cuz when your partner (ie: Smash Bro)
Actually, I'll be playing this game another friend who lives here if they do include multiplayer in it.
I don't see why they wouldn't, though, as lightgun games are typically at least two player and it's immensely easy to add a second interface for a second player.
I didnt' think I would have to be the wone to step in and stop the madness, but its really beginning to drive these two apart. Cut S_B & Pap some slack.
Oh, and don't forget to tune in to our newest favorite Forum Reality Thread
Post by: WuTangTurtle on April 14, 2007, 10:39:25 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2007, 10:48:48 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1Quote
Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Cuz when your partner (ie: Smash Bro)
Actually, I'll be playing this game another friend who lives here if they do include multiplayer in it.
I don't see why they wouldn't, though, as lightgun games are typically at least two player and it's immensely easy to add a second interface for a second player.
I didnt' think I would have to be the wone to step in and stop the madness, but its really beginning to drive these two apart. Cut S_B & Pap some slack.
Oh, and don't forget to tune in to our newest favorite Forum Reality Thread
Don't derail the thread, please. Its rude...
And Wutang, how do you think Rockstar is able to create those giant, free roaming worlds in the GTA series? Its either highly detailed models in a small and restrictive world or an impressive, giant, free world with low poly characters.
After all, the kids love to kill people!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2007, 12:53:20 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64Quote
Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: pap64
I haven't played Wii Play...
The joke is that the Miis in Wii Play, a graphically weak game, have fingers whereas many of Rockstar's models still lack them.
I knew the Miis in Wii Play had fingers. I was just being cold about the joke.
And Pro, they are already messing with the story by adding a second character. I mean, if I am not mistaken, Jill and Chris' adventures in the mansion were very different and only encountered each other on a rare occasion. UC throws the continuity out of the window by placing the two of them on the same scenes. So its not like they destroy the series if they make it so that for the story's sake the player "dies" but the character lives and moves the story along.
But as the story goes, Chrill AND Jill survive.
So you agree the game has to stop and GAME OVER once one player dies.
I don't think anyone's explained in detail how health recovery works in this game yet.
Post by: Viewtiful mario on April 14, 2007, 12:57:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Viewtiful mario
It mey be a bit of a gamble because bringing down RE4 to the Wii's level will probably take as much time and resourses as the REmake for the gamecube.
All the models and levels for RE4 are already created, and there isn't much that can be done to improve them except maybe slightly higher polycount models and higher res textures (unlikely), unlike when they remade RE for the GCN and remade EVERYTHING, as well as added more environments. Pretty much all they'd have to do is recode the game to take advantage of the Wii controls and maybe upscale a few things to fit the native 16:9 display.
Sorry what I ment to type was it would take a bit of work bringing down RE5 to the wii's level, they'll have to redo a shitload of stuff and it'll take as much work almost as making a new game. But hey, if they add enough extra features and give it wii controls...
Post by: cubist on April 14, 2007, 01:04:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
The Wii is not advanced enough to enable RE5's innovations. PS3 exclusive it is.
Not if Capcom feels like the Wii is the money-maker. Like someone just pointed out...they'll bust a PS2 from once-exclusive GCN version...only in reverse.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 14, 2007, 01:11:53 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2007, 01:32:02 PM
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I'm already wondering how the hell they expect this to "fill in the gaps" of previous RE games when the story is already ruined by having Chris and Jill encounter the first zombie together.
Next thing you know Chris will be sleeping with his own grandmother... :| .
Post by: Arbok on April 14, 2007, 01:45:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
But as the story goes, Chrill AND Jill survive.
So you agree the game has to stop and GAME OVER once one player dies.
I don't think anyone's explained in detail how health recovery works in this game yet.
Forget health recovery, try to explain away why Chris, Jill, etc don't turn into zombies after getting bit the first time.
I'm sure they wouldn't lose any sleep over the way they handle the player deaths. Not like that hasn't been awkward before in other games, case in point the last level in Time Splitters 2 on co-op.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 14, 2007, 02:30:16 PM
Post by: Arbok on April 14, 2007, 02:57:56 PM
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I thought I recall Capcom trying to explain it in Wesker's Report by saying that something like 1 in every 10 people aren't affected by the T-Virus...
Correct, like the Ebola virus it was based on, the T-Virus has a 90% rate to spread effectively.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2007, 03:11:17 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 14, 2007, 03:34:31 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 14, 2007, 09:46:24 PM
If I remember correctly, they wanted field data about how well the STARS members would do against the horrors created by the virus, unless I came up with that in my head and am recalling it as fact..
Post by: Arbok on April 15, 2007, 08:11:56 AM
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If I remember correctly, they wanted field data about how well the STARS members would do against the horrors created by the virus, unless I came up with that in my head and am recalling it as fact..
You are correct, but clearly the STARS members were not injected with an anti-virus, as poor Forest Speyer came back to life to attack the player (well... he didn't in the first game on the PS1, but did in the Director's Cut and the REmake). Brad Vickers, another STARS member from the Arklay Mountains raid, also turns into a zombie in RE2.
Post by: Ceric on April 15, 2007, 10:29:14 AM
Post by: Arbok on April 15, 2007, 11:26:11 AM
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Anti-Virus even in the real world don't work 100%. Hence why so many people still get the Flu with the shot.
Neither does the virus at 90%, so I would wager that most of the main character just "happen" to fall into that 10% rather than an anti-virus being the reason. Considering how much retcon to the plot has been going on, I'm sure if an anti-virus was used on the STARS team it would have been mentioned in one of Wesker's reports.
Post by: Viewtiful mario on April 15, 2007, 02:05:35 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 15, 2007, 08:54:33 PM
They had rocket launchers.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 15, 2007, 09:05:41 PM
"Here, take this rocket launcher. You could french kiss Bob and be fine, as long as you have this baby loaded and ready to fire."
".....(awkward silence)"
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on April 15, 2007, 11:34:58 PM
Seriously, though, if you'll look at all the RE games, people who get zombified are either severely chewed up or have a really extended exposure.
Also, Jill becomes immune in the events of RE3.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 01, 2007, 06:39:30 AM
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"At the initial stage of development, Umbrella Chronicles' play system was similar to Resident Evil 4's," producer Masachika Kawata told Famitsu in a video interview. "But, it's extremely difficult on Wii. Too complicated to enjoy. Wii users like easiness. Umbrella Chronicles is not only for game enthusiasts. Complex operability can be an obstacle for Wii users. We want players to enjoy the game's horrifying and creepy world and its thrilling shooting action. By reducing enthusiast-only elements, players can purely enjoy the world."
To achieve this goal, Kawata admits that Capcom "… had to compromise to a lower difficulty level."
Post by: Mikintosh on May 01, 2007, 06:48:18 AM
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I am surprised no one has brought up Capcom's, once again, condescending remarks about Wii gamers when discussing UC.Quote
"At the initial stage of development, Umbrella Chronicles' play system was similar to Resident Evil 4's," producer Masachika Kawata told Famitsu in a video interview. "But, it's extremely difficult on Wii. Too complicated to enjoy. Wii users like easiness. Umbrella Chronicles is not only for game enthusiasts. Complex operability can be an obstacle for Wii users. We want players to enjoy the game's horrifying and creepy world and its thrilling shooting action. By reducing enthusiast-only elements, players can purely enjoy the world."
Though I don't have the highest estimation of Capcom's current management, I don't think it's as bad as all the Kotaku people were saying. They want this game to appeal to a less "enthusiast" crowd, so they use a system that doesn't involve as many buttons (whether this will actually appeal to people or whether the RE name even has that kind of draw outside the hardcore gaming world is different matter). He really should have at least made one comment on the Resident Evil 4 Wii port, for which Capcom is intentionally targeting a seperate audience. But I guess he's not involved with that.
And I'm sure if the RE4 system worked like gangbusters in RE:UC when they were developing it, they would have kept it.
Post by: Adrock on May 01, 2007, 07:24:48 AM
Post by: Terranigma Freak on May 01, 2007, 09:23:08 AM
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Someone at Capcom must have thought the RE4 system would work on Wii since they're porting the game so I consider Masachika Kawata's comments highly misguided.
It's call being lazy.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 01, 2007, 09:49:10 AM
Post by: vudu on May 01, 2007, 10:03:53 AM
Post by: Ceric on May 01, 2007, 10:49:25 AM
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Much like how all sports journalists need to be able to throw an 80 yard spiral. Or all war journalists need to be able to hit a moving target from 300 yards. Or all weathermen need to be able to make it rain on command.
Darn right.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 01, 2007, 10:58:45 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 01, 2007, 01:21:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
I wonder what Smash_Brother going to have to say about this bit of support from Capcom. UC is a half-assed game.
I'd say that you have a terrible memory because you're still trying to pretend that something is nothing and that nothing is, against all logic, somehow worthy of note and a bit of praise.
Post by: Mario on May 01, 2007, 01:48:39 PM
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Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
I wonder what Smash_Brother going to have to say about this bit of support from Capcom. UC is a half-assed game.Quote
Someone at Capcom must have thought the RE4 system would work on Wii since they're porting the game so I consider Masachika Kawata's comments highly misguided.
It's call being lazy.
You're a half-assed game. A half-assed game who no doubt, has not played RE UC, so shut the hell up.
Resident Evil has a LOT of casual fans, this one could sell a lot just by being easily accessable. I find RE is a great game to play in front of a group (at night in the dark), but nobody else ever wants to actually play, with UC I could just hand over the wiimote and have someone else playing straight away. Then they could buy the game and repeat the process with someone else.
But who cares about other people right? Not "real" gamers! The game being easily playable and accessable SUCKS for the single gamer! Because... because it wont be a challenge! It'll be like Wii Sports, where all you have to do is swing your arms to get all the platinums and do spinning smash winners. Man, this SUCKS! I'm so depressed =\ Why Capcom why =\
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 01, 2007, 02:13:06 PM
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Originally posted by: MarioQuote
Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
I wonder what Smash_Brother going to have to say about this bit of support from Capcom. UC is a half-assed game.Quote
Someone at Capcom must have thought the RE4 system would work on Wii since they're porting the game so I consider Masachika Kawata's comments highly misguided.
It's call being lazy.
You're a half-assed game. A half-assed game who no doubt, has not played RE UC, so shut the hell up.
Resident Evil has a LOT of casual fans, this one could sell a lot just by being easily accessable. I find RE is a great game to play in front of a group (at night in the dark), but nobody else ever wants to actually play, with UC I could just hand over the wiimote and have someone else playing straight away. Then they could buy the game and repeat the process with someone else.
But who cares about other people right? Not "real" gamers! The game being easily playable and accessable SUCKS for the single gamer! Because... because it wont be a challenge! It'll be like Wii Sports, where all you have to do is swing your arms to get all the platinums and do spinning smash winners. Man, this SUCKS! I'm so depressed =\ Why Capcom why =\
Too bad Wii gamers only like simple games, and their heads explode when something utilizes more than two buttons.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 01, 2007, 02:29:56 PM
ITS TEARING US APART!!!!!!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 01, 2007, 02:33:09 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64
STOP THE ANGST! STOP THE ANGST!
ITS TEARING US APART!!!!!!
I am amazed there isn't more people upset with Capcom's obvious slam to Wii gamers. Everyone freaked when EA said they were they were commenting about MySim's graphical style, yet when Capcom takes a shot at the fans it gets a pass.
Post by: Arbok on May 01, 2007, 03:14:18 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I am amazed there isn't more people upset with Capcom's obvious slam to Wii gamers. Everyone freaked when EA said they were they were commenting about MySim's graphical style, yet when Capcom takes a shot at the fans it gets a pass.
Are you sure that's even what's taking place? I mean, consider that this is all translated from Japanese and that it's very easy to misinterpret what Kawata was actually trying to say, given the context. If he was really trying to say "intuitive" instead of "easy", would anyone have a problem with it?
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 01, 2007, 03:21:12 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuote
Originally posted by: pap64
STOP THE ANGST! STOP THE ANGST!
ITS TEARING US APART!!!!!!
I am amazed there isn't more people upset with Capcom's obvious slam to Wii gamers. Everyone freaked when EA said they were they were commenting about MySim's graphical style, yet when Capcom takes a shot at the fans it gets a pass.
In all seriousness, there is way too much angst among Wii gamers right now. Seriously, people are taking these comments as if the developers were taking a shot at their own personal religious belief.
I don't mind because I KNOW the Wii right now is getting a lot of varied games, from the cute (Dewy's adventure) to the hardcore and mature (Scarface and Manhunt 2). If all the games we were getting were of the cute nature then it would be weird. But right now, fans are freaking out way too much.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 01, 2007, 06:08:50 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix I am amazed there isn't more people upset with Capcom's obvious slam to Wii gamers. Everyone freaked when EA said they were they were commenting about MySim's graphical style, yet when Capcom takes a shot at the fans it gets a pass.
It's Capcom.
I'd guess most just don't care.
Post by: Terranigma Freak on May 02, 2007, 03:20:40 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
I wonder what Smash_Brother going to have to say about this bit of support from Capcom. UC is a half-assed game.
I'd say that you have a terrible memory because you're still trying to pretend that something is nothing and that nothing is, against all logic, somehow worthy of note and a bit of praise.
Yeah that's because you pretend they don't exist, that's how your magic... I mean logic, workers.
Post by: Ceric on May 02, 2007, 04:34:28 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 02, 2007, 06:29:52 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 03, 2007, 09:10:12 AM
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Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
Yeah that's because you pretend they don't exist, that's how your magic... I mean logic, workers.
I'm quite certain that RE5 and DMC4 exist, just that they're being held back until there's a clear winner in the current console wars.
It doesn't make sense to spend $50 million developing a game for a losing console when you could spend $5 million developing a game on the winning one.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 03, 2007, 09:34:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
I have gathered from this discussion that Terranigma Freak is a game with advance Forum Posting AI and that Pap64 has not yet been fully assimiltated into the Wii collective.
Huh what? O.O
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 03, 2007, 10:07:40 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
Huh what? O.O
Your resistance is futile.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 03, 2007, 09:01:10 PM
Post by: Arbok on July 03, 2007, 09:03:20 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
According GoNintendo's latest story based off a translation, this game will have Co-Op!
There is a God!
Capcom has my money, guaranteed now.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 03, 2007, 09:05:09 PM
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Originally posted by: ArbokQuote
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
According GoNintendo's latest story based off a translation, this game will have Co-Op!
There is a God!
Capcom has my money, guaranteed now.
Watch it all be a gonintendo screw up but it appears legit and was taken from here a translation of the new famitsu.
Post by: Smoke39 on July 03, 2007, 09:10:29 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Watch it all be a gonintendo screw up
It better not. OX<
Post by: Mashiro on July 03, 2007, 09:33:52 PM
Post by: Ceric on July 04, 2007, 02:23:59 AM
Post by: Kairon on July 04, 2007, 08:34:41 AM
Now that Capcom and Sega are giving us lightgun games... WHY ARE YOU BEING SO STUPID NAMCO I AHTE YOU DON'T YOU WANT MY MONEY ITS HERE TAKE IT AND TO HELL WITH TIME CRISIS IV IF YOU DON'T!!!!
*weeps tears of rage*
Post by: Ghisy on July 04, 2007, 09:11:21 AM
Post by: IceCold on July 04, 2007, 11:42:45 AM
Post by: Kairon on July 04, 2007, 12:08:57 PM
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Will this gun peripheral be available before UC comes out? Hopefully..
It alread IS out in specialty internet retailers.
Oh wait, not legit enough for you? How about paying slightly more for the same product at an Amazon retailer?
I'm firmly of the belief that you absolutely can't use the wiimote like a lightgun in a lot of games coming out, unless they're built specifically to calibrate the wiimote like that... but at $10.99 + shipping it might actually not be a bad novelty item...
Post by: IceCold on July 04, 2007, 12:15:52 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 04, 2007, 02:02:45 PM
1. You normally aim on Wii through the relationship of realtime visual feedback and adjustment of the on-screen reticule. NOT by looking down the line of sight of the remote
2. Think about how you normally aim the remote. It is slightly tilting up? Now imagine holding it inside the gun shell. If you aimed the "gun" at the screen, would the reticule be higher or lower than normal?
Does UC even come with the kind of calibration options offered in Twilight Princess?
Post by: Kairon on July 04, 2007, 03:11:27 PM
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Post by: Kairon on July 04, 2007, 04:23:44 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 04, 2007, 04:40:15 PM
absolutely awful idea until a shotgun/rifle shell is released
Post by: Smoke39 on July 04, 2007, 05:46:11 PM
Post by: vudu on July 05, 2007, 07:40:04 AM
QuoteComes out tomorrow.
Originally posted by: Professional 666
absolutely awful idea until a shotgun/rifle shell is released
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 05, 2007, 08:04:29 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 05, 2007, 09:43:19 AM
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Originally posted by: Smoke39
'Cause rifles can be aimed so much more accurately without sights than a pistol, right?
Actually, it looks less retarded to hold a [assault] rifle at your hip than a pistol.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on July 05, 2007, 10:52:37 AM
Post by: IceCold on July 05, 2007, 05:34:49 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 05, 2007, 07:54:11 PM
Umbrella Chronicles PV Vol. 3 - Co-Op confirmed!!!
must buy it is.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 05, 2007, 08:02:53 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Has no one posted the new video yet?
Umbrella Chronicles PV Vol. 3 - Co-Op confirmed!!!
must buy it is.
Woah I guess that does confirm Co-Op since it shows two reticules towards the end. The games looks like a ton of fun too in that new gameplay footage.
Post by: Smoke39 on July 05, 2007, 08:05:40 PM
Post by: Mashiro on July 05, 2007, 08:07:41 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on July 05, 2007, 08:16:04 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 05, 2007, 08:35:40 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 06, 2007, 04:47:56 AM
, and we get a new, Wesker-centered, pre-RE4 section!
Post by: Ceric on July 06, 2007, 07:35:16 AM
Post by: capamerica on July 06, 2007, 08:00:01 AM
the co-op mode alone makes it a must buy for me
Post by: Chasefox on July 06, 2007, 09:26:55 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Has no one posted the new video yet?
Umbrella Chronicles PV Vol. 3 - Co-Op confirmed!!!
must buy it is.
That is awesome...best video released yet by far....geez, this would be the perect game for online co-op...
Post by: ShyGuy on July 09, 2007, 11:10:03 AM
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http://www.jeux-france.com/news20790.html&lp=fr_en&tt=url
Post by: Mashiro on July 09, 2007, 11:15:46 AM
I would kill for honest to good remakes from the ground up of RE1 (ok well maybe just the control set up to make it like 4, seeing as how graphically it's already beautiful on GC...though the idle camera style of play wouldn't work...oh well rebuild it haha),2,3 and CV. Oh and yeah give us a port of 5 please while you're at it Capcom.
Post by: Kairon on July 09, 2007, 11:28:13 AM
... I want Megaman on the Wii, I want Powerstone to come back to the Wii, I want some of the XBox 360 development to shift over this way. THAT is why I'll buy and pimp and whore out RE: UC.
I absolutely DON'T want to see another era of REmakes from Capcom like we got with the GC. Everyone has their limits. This is where I draw the line. So Capcom... I'm no longer buying two copies of RE:UC.
Post by: Mashiro on July 09, 2007, 11:33:00 AM
I'd LOVE to see Mega Man make a return in a big way to the Wii and Power Stone would be nice as well (glad I still have the first 2 for my DC...<3 DC).
Post by: ShyGuy on July 09, 2007, 11:50:47 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 09, 2007, 11:51:57 AM
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REMakes of RE 1, 2, 3, and CV are the LAST things I want from Capcom.
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I want Megaman on the Wii, I want Powerstone to come back to the Wii
Doesn't compute...
REmake of RE2, please!
Then another new RE based on the RE4 engine...Post by: Kairon on July 09, 2007, 11:52:49 AM
Post by: Mashiro on July 09, 2007, 12:16:34 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 09, 2007, 12:19:42 PM
Now RE:UC... that's a LIGHT-GUN game. Booyah. No trace of previous control barriers between me and the game from the RE series, just look, point, shoot, and co-op!
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
I like you Karion but sometimes I just don't understand you.
Hmm... maybe... I think like a hardcore gamer, but I play like a mainstream casual. Seriously, I have completely unremarkable reflexes, dexterity, and lack the dedication to "practice" games that require you to "practice" to get good at them. To put it in plainer terms, I sorta suck at games. Always have, always will, and I've come to accept that.
I don't think there's ANY game in which I've ever actually been really, truly, good at. Maybe Mario Kart 64 battle mode, but that's not saying much is it?
Post by: Mashiro on July 09, 2007, 12:22:57 PM
The Wiimote makes a huge difference and makes the whole experience feel more "smooth". I think you will enjoy it.
Edit for your edit: I think you will like RE4 even more than with a Wiimote as it certainly makes the game "feel" easier. The whole pointing and shooting is so much more intuitive than the previous RE controls. It's really the perfect next step for the series which is why I hope RE5 eventually makes it to Wii.
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 09, 2007, 12:35:15 PM
Capcom's desire to release as much RE on the Wii as possible says to me that they must have at least CONSIDERED making RE5 for the Wii.
Post by: Adrock on July 09, 2007, 12:37:03 PM
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Mashiro wrote:
Oh my God . . . please sell well RE:UC please sell well . . .
Once they confirmed co-op, I pre-ordered the game. I think a better and more accurate test would be if RE4:WE outsells Umbrella Chronicles. That basically says that people want Wii Edition gameplay more.
Post by: Mashiro on July 09, 2007, 12:38:42 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 09, 2007, 12:42:19 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 09, 2007, 04:23:45 PM
How-to's for Umbrella's most popular dishes AND MORE
Post by: EasyCure on July 09, 2007, 04:23:50 PM
this news makes me feel guilty for only now really getting into the RE series. i remember playing the directors cut of RE1 and liking the premise of the game but couldn't get past the laughable VO work, it really took me out of the game. Then i played some of RE2 but had the same problem. I was excited about its port to the 64 because they have you the option of changing the controls, which really excited me.
but because 3 and CV weren't coming to nintendo systems, and i couldn't before multi-consoles, i fell out of the series. Even with news of RE4 being gamecube exclusive (ha!) and it changing up the formula, i couldn't get excited for it. It came at a point in life where i considered putting gaming on hold because i didn't have the time or money for it anymore. Even when it was lowered to a players choice price i passed on it thinking i'd never have the time to finish or even enjoy that type of game.
Now i own and cherish my copy of it for wii, i know why its so well acclaimed, and i want more. If buying RE:UC can get the 5th game onto wii as well as possible wiimakes of the prior games, then count me in.
i already have the REmake (got it before the wii addition of 4 was announced thinking it would have controls like Re64) but i wouldn't mind revisiting 0,2,3, ann CV with some wii enhancements.
Would those games really work with the RE4 setup though? it seems like the level designs of the older games would be to restrictive.
Post by: Mashiro on July 09, 2007, 04:31:49 PM
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Would those games really work with the RE4 setup though? it seems like the level designs of the older games would be to restrictive.
Yeah that's why I say that if they do they should rebuild it from the ground up to work more with the RE4 style of play and of course to be graphically gorgeous. Make it a brand new experience for veterans of the series and those of us whom never played the original games. They will likely sell oodles then regardless of if you played the original anyway.
Post by: LuigiHann on July 09, 2007, 05:15:12 PM
I'll admit I haven't played any version of RE yet. Umbrella Chronicles looks the most appealing to me...
Post by: Mashiro on July 09, 2007, 05:30:12 PM
Post by: EasyCure on July 10, 2007, 06:54:00 AM
it would be almost unfair to have two or three zombies coming at you from one end of a long hall, they'd be sitting ducks (unless you didn't have ammo, in that case you'd be zombie chow).
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Post by: Louieturkey on August 09, 2007, 06:24:01 AM
Here's the quote:
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- Capcom announced its Wii action shooter Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles will be released in Japan on November 15, 2007.
This means it's hopefully showing up in the US this year as well.
Post by: Arbok on August 09, 2007, 07:55:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
This means it's hopefully showing up in the US this year as well.
Bah, too many games I want near the end of the year if so:
- Smash Bros Brawl
- Godzilla: Unleashed
- Super Mario Galaxy
- Metroid Prime 3
And now Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles. Looks like I'm going to be neglecting the DS this holiday season... unless Super Dodgeball is also coming out this year...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 09, 2007, 07:57:16 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 09, 2007, 08:07:13 AM
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Originally posted by: ArbokQuote
Originally posted by: Louieturkey
This means it's hopefully showing up in the US this year as well.
Bah, too many games I want near the end of the year if so:
- Smash Bros Brawl
- Godzilla: Unleashed
- Super Mario Galaxy
- Metroid Prime 3
And now Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles. Looks like I'm going to be neglecting the DS this holiday season... unless Super Dodgeball is also coming out this year...
Gee poor you.
Here are the games I want near the end of the year:-RE: UC
-Godzilla
-Bioshock
-Call of Duty 4
-Zelda: PH
-Mass Effect
-Smackdown vs Raw
-Mario Galaxy
-Metroid Prime 3
-Smash Brothers
-BWii
-Forever Blue
-Rock Star
-Crysis
-Company of Heroes Expansion
-World in Conflict
-Unreal Tournament 3
-Half-Life Orange Box
-Assassins Creed
-Halo 3
-TimeShift
-Zack and Wiki
-Contra 4
Post by: Arbok on August 09, 2007, 08:12:53 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Gee poor you.
Well that's not my problem
...although I can't fault the list due to its inclusion of Godzilla...
Also, you can take both GTA4 and Manhunt 2 off that list, since neither look to be 2007 anymore.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 09, 2007, 08:23:23 AM
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Originally posted by: ArbokQuote
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Gee poor you.
Well that's not my problem
...although I can't fault the list due to its inclusion of Godzilla...
Also, you can take both GTA4 and Manhunt 2 off that list, since neither look to be 2007 anymore.
Woohoo two games to remove!
Post by: Kairon on August 09, 2007, 08:30:47 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 09, 2007, 08:34:18 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Do you still got the list of my games I wanted GP or do I need to re-compile that list?
I think it got lost by accident in my deleting of PMs because NWR has a lame limit of 100.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 09, 2007, 09:40:46 AM
(Yuck, scenes from Outbreak...How dare you consider that crap canon, Capcom?)
Post by: Mashiro on August 09, 2007, 09:43:58 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuote
Originally posted by: Kairon
Do you still got the list of my games I wanted GP or do I need to re-compile that list?
I think it got lost by accident in my deleting of PMs because NWR has a lame limit of 100.
Yeah it's quite annoying. Increase the cap to 1500000 =D
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 09, 2007, 09:47:11 AM
Post by: Arbok on August 09, 2007, 09:47:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
So am I the only one who saw the new scans, or did no one care enough to post them? =)
"Is that a black zombie? That’s racist!"
Classic...
Post by: Mashiro on August 09, 2007, 09:48:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Why do you even need 100? O_o
Because some of us FARP that's why!
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 09, 2007, 09:57:51 AM
Post by: Mashiro on August 09, 2007, 09:58:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Through PMs!? o_O
THIS DISCUSSION IS OVER.
Post by: Ghisy on August 09, 2007, 09:59:26 AM
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Originally posted by: Arbok
"Is that a black zombie? That’s racist!"
ROFL!!
Post by: Kairon on August 09, 2007, 10:00:18 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 09, 2007, 10:02:26 AM
(Hint: It's not forum!)
Post by: Mashiro on August 09, 2007, 10:03:02 AM
Forum Action Role Playing =D
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 09, 2007, 10:06:14 AM
Post by: Terranigma Freak on August 09, 2007, 10:58:18 AM
Too bad this game still plays like ass on a stick.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 09, 2007, 11:37:16 AM
Post by: vudu on August 09, 2007, 05:09:12 PM
QuoteYou should have been here back when the limit was 10.
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I think it got lost by accident in my deleting of PMs because NWR has a lame limit of 100.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2007, 06:02:33 PM
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Originally posted by: vuduQuoteYou should have been here back when the limit was 10.
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I think it got lost by accident in my deleting of PMs because NWR has a lame limit of 100.
Ah, those were the days before Mafia...
Do you guys still play Mafia?
Post by: ShyGuy on August 22, 2007, 08:29:06 PM
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070823/bio.htm
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 23, 2007, 07:28:57 AM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 12, 2007, 07:36:00 AM
sad
Post by: vudu on September 12, 2007, 07:44:27 AM
Also, what the heck is Hawke doing at the bottom of the first scan?!
Post by: Nick DiMola on September 12, 2007, 08:06:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Do you still got the list of my games I wanted GP or do I need to re-compile that list?
Compile your list using my application!
It's made specifically for keeping track of things you have/want. You can generate nifty HTML too!!!
/promotion for my free software
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 12, 2007, 09:02:10 AM
Well this game basically has a fixed camera angle, but also a limited view (sure you can look around a little but most of the action is right in front of you) this will allow for tons of jump out scares as well as surprises behind you and to your side if you don't take the time to look all around.
I hope they take the time to craft everything that needs to be placed in a game to scare you and tease you through out the game.
Post by: Adrock on September 12, 2007, 04:24:15 PM
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Bad news for all us fans of RE2, it appears there will not be a chapter in RE: UC for RE2.
I thought it was odd in the latest video I saw of UC that it goes from mentioning RE1 directly to RE3. So apparently there's no RE2 or Code Veronica. Strange. I'd only mind if the absence of those events affects the length of the game, but it's possible that there are completely original areas not previously seen in any other Resident Evil.
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Well this game basically has a fixed camera angle, but also a limited view (sure you can look around a little but most of the action is right in front of you) this will allow for tons of jump out scares as well as surprises behind you and to your side if you don't take the time to look all around.
On a related note, I wonder if both players can look slightly left or right and if so, what happens when one players tries to look right, while the other tries to look right?
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 12, 2007, 04:33:11 PM
Post by: Adrock on September 12, 2007, 04:45:11 PM
Post by: EasyCure on September 12, 2007, 05:54:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I've said it once, I'll say it again...The lack of RE2 in this game BETTER mean that Capcom is hard at work on a RE2make for Wii...There's really no excuse for the lack of Leon and Claire while Jill is in three scenarios...
Well if i remember correctly their stories and the events of RE2 (and what i've read about code veronica for that matter) aren't as involved with Umbrella as the three included scenarios are.
in re2 you stumble across the information that william birkins develops a new virus he wants to keep secret from umbrella ann how the original virus contaminated the city in the first place. Compare that to re1 where the mansion is a training facility for the BOWs and that re3 is about killing off that last STARS members to cover up the incident, both these games have more direct ties to Umbrella. Now with UC we're getting morn in depth looks into umbrella through those events that related to then more directly...
though a remake of re 2 (or 0,1,3, and CV for that matter) will be much welcomed imo.
Post by: Ghisy on September 12, 2007, 08:23:20 PM
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Originally posted by: Adrock
If anything, there should be more Jill.
QFT
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 13, 2007, 01:51:17 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2007, 05:32:19 AM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
in re2 you stumble across the information that william birkins develops a new virus he wants to keep secret from umbrella ann how the original virus contaminated the city in the first place. Compare that to re1 where the mansion is a training facility for the BOWs and that re3 is about killing off that last STARS members to cover up the incident, both these games have more direct ties to Umbrella. Now with UC we're getting morn in depth looks into umbrella through those events that related to then more directly...
But in RE2 you FIGHT Birkin, who is the one who developed the G-virus in the first place! ;_;
Post by: vudu on September 13, 2007, 07:16:55 AM
QuoteChances are that only player 1 controls camera movement.
Originally posted by: Adrock
I wonder if both players can look slightly left or right and if so, what happens when one players tries to look right, while the other tries to look right?
Post by: EasyCure on September 13, 2007, 07:27:48 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill AurionQuote
Originally posted by: EasyCure
in re2 you stumble across the information that william birkins develops a new virus he wants to keep secret from umbrella ann how the original virus contaminated the city in the first place. Compare that to re1 where the mansion is a training facility for the BOWs and that re3 is about killing off that last STARS members to cover up the incident, both these games have more direct ties to Umbrella. Now with UC we're getting morn in depth looks into umbrella through those events that related to then more directly...
But in RE2 you FIGHT Birkin, who is the one who developed the G-virus in the first place! ;_;
but he wasnt sent by umbrella to kill you. everything that happens is pure bad luck on leon and claires part, more so on leon since he was just trying to make a living and clair was being a nosey b*tch and trying to look for chris. thats why i said you stumble upon will birkins and the g-virus, which umbrella didnt know about, and he becomes that giant thing you have to kill repeatadly at the end of the game.
in re1 you're there because you were setup and are being used to train the BOWs to kill STARS operatives, and in re3 you're being hunted by their best BOW (nemesis) in order to eliminate the knowledge of their role in the racoon city "incident."
as for re0, i dont know the story to well (having never played it
) but isnt the train in which you start the game on owned by umbrella? so again, the story pertains DIRECTLY to umbrella more so than the events of re2 and code veronicaPost by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2007, 10:29:44 AM
Post by: EasyCure on September 13, 2007, 10:37:41 AM
all i know is an re4 styled re2 remake (or any other game in the series) would be awesome, and i'd for it to sell well so capcom can put newer re games on wii.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2007, 10:40:58 AM
With RE4 Wii selling so well, Capcom would be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't have another game using the RE4 engine in the works...Which means I fully expect them to be.........shooting themselves in the foot...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 13, 2007, 09:29:57 PM
Post by: EasyCure on September 14, 2007, 05:21:34 AM
Post by: Kairon on September 14, 2007, 08:39:49 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 14, 2007, 08:42:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
I've actually always wanted Mega Man Soccer... think they'll release it on the VC?
I've always wanted to try that game out too.
Post by: JonLeung on September 14, 2007, 03:29:49 PM
QuoteI want Ada.
Originally posted by: Adrock
If anything, there should be more Jill.
Post by: EasyCure on September 15, 2007, 05:15:45 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuote
Originally posted by: Kairon
I've actually always wanted Mega Man Soccer... think they'll release it on the VC?
I've always wanted to try that game out too.
neither of you are missing out much. its very slow paced even though the field seems really small. Shooting goals is easy once you get familiar with a few things like tricking the goalie into a dive w/o shooting the ball, or a few key places where goals are almost a given.
the super shots in the game are fun for a while but that wears off fast. You're only allowed a set number of then though (3 default, 9 maximum) so it only becomes a strategy of conservation when versus the harder opponents since you the easier foes are easier to defend against and you can use all your super shots for a blow out.
even still, the super shots aren't always a given on the harder teams since they usually have tougher goalies who are immune to most, if not all, of your super shots (protoman).
Oh and the music isn't all that great, from what i remember they didn't have too many megaman tunes, or any for that matter... Lame
Post by: that Baby guy on September 15, 2007, 05:38:42 AM
Post by: EasyCure on September 15, 2007, 08:35:16 AM
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See, I can't even remember it, I played it so little when I rented it, and it was so long ago. I remember not favoring it much as a kid, but I might have been upset that I wasn't seeing the X cast, which was the series I was more familiar with at the time.
same with me. i was familiar with the original series since i played those since as long as i remember but when i first heard of megaman soccer thru a "friend' he swore to me that it had the X cast as well as the original, and made up a bunch of sh*t about how Zer0 was the best character and had an awesome header that almost always went in..
i finally get the game and zeros no where to be found, i was dissapointed
that and not a single character has a header. other than standard shots/passes and super shots the only other move you can do is a crescent kick that just looks cool but doesnt add anything to the game.i actually have two copies of this game, though all together i've owned 3 copies.. not cuz im a collector, but because my first copy was stolen by said "friend" from earlier, i later found a used copy at a funcoland (now a gamestop), then my parents surprised me with a few snes games after they went to a garage sale in Virginia, the games included: Wheel of Fortune (didnt work), some casino game (worked but sucked), Donky Kong Country 1 (which was awesome because my mom gave my copy away to family in another country when i was younger...w/o me knowing it and the family didnt even have a SNES, just new but she didnt know the difference) and.. Megaman soccer.
its very glitchy though, if not i would of gladly shipped it out to anyone who wanted it. oh well
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 15, 2007, 10:23:43 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 17, 2007, 11:24:48 AM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 17, 2007, 11:47:28 AM
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Umbrella Chronicles takes you through five main areas of the Resident Evil world, starting with zero, moving on through the mansion incident in the original RE, then progressing to Raccoon City in RE2, diving even deeper into the Nemesis storyline with RE3, and finishing with a new area based on the Umbrella HQ.
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 19, 2007, 05:29:03 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on September 19, 2007, 06:37:55 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 20, 2007, 06:46:32 AM
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Post by: Mario on September 23, 2007, 06:06:51 PM
Post by: The Sailerman on September 23, 2007, 06:21:12 PM
One of my friends and I love the House of the Dead games (particularly the hilariously bad voice acting), so if plays similar to the HotD games, I'll probably pick it up.
Either way, I'm getting the Wii Zapper for Link's Crossbow Training (yes, I will buy anything Zelda related).
Post by: ShyGuy on September 23, 2007, 06:29:44 PM
I have to buy this game for sure now, a RE obsessed friend of mine wants to play it.
Post by: The Sailerman on September 23, 2007, 06:53:53 PM
EDIT: Fixed! Thanks for letting me know ShyGuy!
Post by: Athrun Zala on September 25, 2007, 04:21:43 PM
Quotewhich is PHAIL... but not unexpected considering it's Capcom...
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
My theory is RE2 RE:CV and RE4 are coming in Umbrella Chronicles 2
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 07, 2007, 07:04:07 PM
The graphix look pretty good, but I'm still not sold on the Zapper.
p.s. Possible Spoilers in video, looks like a boss battle is included.
Post by: Darkstarttd on October 25, 2007, 09:23:23 PM
Post by: Adrock on October 25, 2007, 10:12:19 PM
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Darkstarttd wrote:
haha it is late.. but look its ture...
Must be...
Anyway, the top right corner says "Carlos" who was introduced in Resident Evil 3: Nemesis, which takes place almost at the same time as Resident Evil 2. Don't get your hopes up. We'll probably only see RE2 areas that also appeared in RE3.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 25, 2007, 10:35:43 PM
Long live RE Gaiden Barry's Loveboat Cruise.
In fact, that's the game that should be remade, since it's the one that would benefit the most from redesign and modern game tech, like colour TV.
Post by: Athrun Zala on October 26, 2007, 03:19:01 AM
Post by: Kairon on October 30, 2007, 09:44:52 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 30, 2007, 10:27:09 AM
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I've actually always wanted Mega Man Soccer... think they'll release it on the VC?
I've always wanted to try that game out too.
The game is completely average...but showed alot of potential...too much potential, I always wanted a sequel that did the formula better.
The game has you play in tournaments and beat characters to add them to your team. Then you can customize your team however you want. The problem is there really doesn't feel like much variety between items, as most will incap a player to blow them up including your goalie, so it was easy to get shots off.
This could easily have been corrected by allowing for regular blaster shots and special shots to attack actual health of players instead.
If I saw this game on the virtual console I still might pick it up though.
Post by: Chasefox on November 13, 2007, 06:46:47 PM
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 13, 2007, 07:11:04 PM
Post by: EasyCure on November 14, 2007, 02:47:58 AM
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The release date was the 13th, so it most likely won't be in stores until later today. I am most likely going to pick this game up, but not until after I've spent some time with Galaxy. There are quite a few games I'm interested that have 11/13 dates, I don't understand why these companies decided to go up against the biggest Wii game of the year like that.
so when their game tanks in sales they can blame nintendo and drop all support. looks like we'll never see RE5
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 14, 2007, 05:56:28 AM
Post by: Kairon on November 14, 2007, 06:38:19 AM
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We were never getting RE5. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence piling up that we're getting a remade RE2 with the Wii controls.
/cries
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 14, 2007, 07:37:45 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 14, 2007, 08:47:44 AM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 14, 2007, 12:04:41 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 14, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
It actually introduces the concept of STRATEGY to the genre, something I've never seen. The first few levels are easy, after that, you'll need to conserve shotgun ammo for its stopping power against the fast enemies.
Also, the "shoot leg, shoot head" trick is back from RE4: if you shoot a zombie in the leg, they'll not only fall on their knees, but you'll be more likely to get a critical shot to the head while they're on their knees. Then, there's the fact that you can also throw grenades for AoE kills, as well as shoot exploding barrels, cars and mines. There's also a knifing strategy. At any time you can hold Z on the chuck and shake it to knife enemies in front of you, and if you're quick, you can slash away "hugging" attacks from zombies but if they go to swing at you, you'll still be hit.
I'm only on Nemesis section so far, but the difficulty DEFINITELY ramps up and the "shoot it in the face until it dies" strategy won't work as there are just too many zombies coming at you at once to not start picking away at the knees. The two player is also awesome, but it's still hard enough that you're going to die if you're not careful (and this is on Normal, hard must be a bitch).
I love it, so far, and the narrative with Wesker is also very interesting. You'll be unlocking story briefings and such by shooting lights and other objects in game and then using the action button to pick them up. You'll probably need to go through more than once, but that's alright as the strategy elements will make this easy to go through a second time.
Post by: Mashiro on November 14, 2007, 03:04:30 PM
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Also, the "shoot leg, shoot head" trick is back from RE4: if you shoot a zombie in the leg, they'll not only fall on their knees, but you'll be more likely to get a critical shot to the head while they're on their knees.
That's all I needed to hear to want to really want this game. Xmas purchase confirmed =D
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 14, 2007, 03:54:09 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 14, 2007, 04:07:14 PM
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This is, hands down, the best lightgun game I've ever played.
It actually introduces the concept of STRATEGY to the genre, something I've never seen. The first few levels are easy, after that, you'll need to conserve shotgun ammo for its stopping power against the fast enemies.
Also, the "shoot leg, shoot head" trick is back from RE4: if you shoot a zombie in the leg, they'll not only fall on their knees, but you'll be more likely to get a critical shot to the head while they're on their knees. Then, there's the fact that you can also throw grenades for AoE kills, as well as shoot exploding barrels, cars and mines. There's also a knifing strategy. At any time you can hold Z on the chuck and shake it to knife enemies in front of you, and if you're quick, you can slash away "hugging" attacks from zombies but if they go to swing at you, you'll still be hit.
I'm only on Nemesis section so far, but the difficulty DEFINITELY ramps up and the "shoot it in the face until it dies" strategy won't work as there are just too many zombies coming at you at once to not start picking away at the knees. The two player is also awesome, but it's still hard enough that you're going to die if you're not careful (and this is on Normal, hard must be a bitch).
I love it, so far, and the narrative with Wesker is also very interesting. You'll be unlocking story briefings and such by shooting lights and other objects in game and then using the action button to pick them up. You'll probably need to go through more than once, but that's alright as the strategy elements will make this easy to go through a second time.
And yet, Capcom said that UC was designed with casual gamers in mind... :p
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 14, 2007, 04:17:09 PM
I'm quite serious when I say that this is the first lightgun game I've ever played where simply firing faster won't eventually make all your problems disappear.
Post by: Djunknown on November 14, 2007, 05:06:19 PM
They definately took a few liberties with the narrative, but I've come to grips that the series in general doesn't quite fit into a tight little package. Billy is STILL teh missing
As S_B said, there's a layer of strategy involved. Finding the critical spots is crucial for crowd control. Reminds me of Killer 7 in that respect. Mix some RE 4 involving shooting and tuning weapons, and you've got one beefy shooter.
Visuals are on par, perhaps a step below RE4, but that's not a bad thing. The CG seems to be stuck in 2002, but I'm not looking for Gears of War or Crysis quality here...
Great use of Surround sound so far. I shift my view in advance to confront the wailing moans...
I'm missing tons of files, and didn't get the satisfactory grades this time around, so I'll be replaying these scenarios for certain...
My gut reaction is that its the best of both worlds. Hard-core fans get to 'RE'-live some great moments, and casual/non-gamers can get into it without thinking twice. Wonder how it'll work with the Wii Zapper?
Post by: Mario on November 14, 2007, 05:21:59 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 14, 2007, 07:00:45 PM
There's definitely a rhythm to reloading as well. Reload at the wrong time and you're going to take damage, but it's wise to reload often.]
You earn new weapons after finding them in a level and you get to pick one of them to take into each level with you (in addition to your samurai edge with infinite ammo).
Also, the button press dodges are back, but that's not a bad thing. My only real gripe with this game is that the "reloading" progress bar happens right in the middle of your screen, making it hard to see what's behind it until it vanishes.
And the dialogue in the game is the least cheesy of any RE yet, but that's not saying much. Wesker's dialogue is particularly awesome, as he sounds like an arrogant assh*le in every word (which is accurate).
I can't wait to see how this game ends...
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 14, 2007, 08:38:14 PM
I waiting for the sale at TRU next week to pick up on the buy 2 get 1 free sale and use the $25 gift card I just got.
So far I'm thinking Z&W and maybe MP3:C, but I still need a third game, but I don't want to do this game is its only $20.00 or something like that. I would rather get something full price for free, and just buy RE:UC if its cheap enough.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 15, 2007, 12:37:18 AM
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2007, 03:02:35 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 15, 2007, 04:38:59 AM
The higher rank you get, the more stars you earn at the end of the level which can be spent on upgrading weapons. It's a very fun system.
I can actually see myself trying to S-rank all of the levels on hard. The game makes me want to get even better at it, a feeling I don't get from many games these days. My hat is off to Capcom on this one. I hope they use this formula again.
Post by: EasyCure on November 15, 2007, 11:41:40 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 15, 2007, 12:18:57 PM
If someone doesn't like lightgun games or RE, I'd probably advise against it. Otherwise, I'm definitely enjoying it.
What's interesting is that RE4 was a transition of the "ruleset" of the Resident Evil series (you save games at typewriters, headshots are lethal, use herbs to heal, etc.) from the still image tank controls to the over the shoulder 3rd person view (tank controls, but still).
Now, REUC is a transition of the RE4 ruleset into a lightgun game: don't bother using a shotgun at a distance, grenades take a moment to go off, aim for the leg to slow them down, shoot the exploding object when enemies are near it, etc.
It's like the RE world has "converted" yet again and it once again worked very well.
Like I said, I'd love to see a full RE FPS with Wiimote aiming and 2 player co-op. This is the type of rewarding and fun gameplay which makes you proud when you beat it but willing to try again when you lose to it.
Post by: Kairon on November 15, 2007, 01:06:46 PM
Post by: Kairon on November 15, 2007, 03:04:42 PM
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Wow, I can;'t ait for my copper to arrive in the mail from Familyvideo.com! I'm gonna force my roommate to play with me, lol!
Wow, I musta been sloshed when I typed that... but anyways, while waiting for my copy to arrive in the mail, my Roommate caved and bvought his own at the local GameStop, beating me to the punch!
Post by: Djunknown on November 15, 2007, 04:15:51 PM
My cousin loved RE 4, but hadn't played the previous ones. He's also a huge House of the Dead fan, and was at first off put by the slow pacing. But when we got the Yawn (Big snake for the uninitiated) boss fight, he got into it. The fact that you have a shared life bar means you really have to cooperate and coordinate your shots. One can shoot the zombies while you look for files, or one can focus on the head, while you get the legs. One can have the shot gun for crowd control, while the other has the submachine gun going for the kills.
So yeah, fun solo, even more fun with someone at your side.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2007, 05:40:01 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 15, 2007, 05:50:01 PM
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This game comes with the Wii Zapper right?
Nope, it does not. In fact I think the Wii Zapper comes out next week. Nintendo is saving the zapper for their second molesting of the Zelda franchise in a row, Zelda Crossbow Training.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 15, 2007, 06:15:46 PM
Post by: Chasefox on November 15, 2007, 06:20:27 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 15, 2007, 06:22:47 PM
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Oh man, if GP doesn't like it it's bound to be great!
I don't like Blasto, so everyone buy a used copy!
Post by: SixthAngel on November 16, 2007, 03:51:54 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 16, 2007, 03:55:11 AM
-You're awarded stars after every mission and can play them again to acquire more stars. Stars can be spent on weapon upgrades, meaning that you can technically farm for weapon upgrades. Funny that SMG isn't the only game out this week which has you collecting stars.
-weapon upgrades can WTFPWN bosses, in the face. Giant bat + upgraded missile launcher with a power rating of A+ = Giant bat gets f*cked (yes, proper f*cked) Picking your A-game weapon at the beginning of a level and saving it for bosses is a legitimate and advised strategy (you don't suffer splash damage)
-grenades and other explosives actually leave holes in terrain
-if you're good enough, you can go down a line of zombies and pop them in the sweet spot to take their heads clean off
-environment can be used to your advantage. You can shoot a chandelier off the ceiling and it can fall on enemies, cars/barrels can be shot to explode near a crowd of zombies, a pile of I-beams can be shot and made to fall on zombies, etc.
-hunters suck, and they'll be in your face the second you turn around on many occasions.
-it looks like ammo acquired during a level that isn't used is added to the total you have for that weapon and can be taken into any other level until you use it, at which point the ammo for that weapon will be set to its normal amount when you choose it
-reloading/firing for different weapons makes different noises in the wiimote speaker: you can hear the cylinder spin when you reload the magnum revolver. Your aiming reticle chamber also changes depending on which weapon you have equipped.
-the knife is handy for slashing certain enemies away, but I'm starting to think it's handier than I'm giving it credit for. I remember seeing it knock a zombie away when he went in for a hit instead of a hug. I need to look into whether or not parrying enemy attacks is a legitimate strategy which would help if you're going primarily on your pistol, since you don't have time to switch to a better weapon when you turn around and a hunter is in your face.
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 16, 2007, 03:56:06 AM
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How many light gun type games are coming out for Wii? I can think of this, Ghost Squad, and the Zelda pack in. Developers are absolutely retarded to not try to put these out. This is the first system where people don't need to actually buy something extra to to play the game. They can't be expensive to make (or port from arcade software) and you have market penetration with the genre that was never possible. I always loved light gun games but never got them do to the extra controller and expense, problem solved.
HOTD 2&3 were just announced for the Wii as well, but I frankly don't know if I'd even both with them after having played REUC.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 16, 2007, 04:24:52 AM
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How many light gun type games are coming out for Wii? I can think of this, Ghost Squad, and the Zelda pack in. Developers are absolutely retarded to not try to put these out. This is the first system where people don't need to actually buy something extra to to play the game. They can't be expensive to make (or port from arcade software) and you have market penetration with the genre that was never possible. I always loved light gun games but never got them do to the extra controller and expense, problem solved.
Yeah you are right, there is no excuse to not have more light gun games. Hopefully third parties are learning their lesson.
Post by: Kairon on November 16, 2007, 04:29:29 AM
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How many light gun type games are coming out for Wii? I can think of this, Ghost Squad, and the Zelda pack in. Developers are absolutely retarded to not try to put these out. This is the first system where people don't need to actually buy something extra to to play the game. They can't be expensive to make (or port from arcade software) and you have market penetration with the genre that was never possible. I always loved light gun games but never got them do to the extra controller and expense, problem solved.
Time Crisis 4 coming to PS3 and XBox 360 is INEXCUSABLE in my opinion. They even had to sorta duplicate the wiimote's pointer tech for their new redesigned Gun-con. GRRRRR. ANGRAH!
Oh, but don't you guys forget about the arcade mode in Medal of Honor Heroes 2! I basically told myself that I'm getting all the lightgun games for the Wii this fall! Hehe... and I bet devs could make even more Lightgun type games for Wiiware...
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 16, 2007, 05:16:07 AM
2. People need to buy a lightgun in order to play the game properly.
3. Copies of software are cheaper to manufacture than lightguns.
4. The Wii comes with a built-in lightgun.
Honestly, I have no idea WHAT they're thinking.
Post by: Armak88 on November 16, 2007, 06:45:58 AM
Quick question though, are there only 9 missions to play on 2 player? For some reason I thought there was more than that. Is it the end after you kill nemesis or is there something else that just needs to be unlocked?
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 16, 2007, 07:02:30 AM
There's at least one more area in which Chris and Jill go into the depths of a final Umbrella base and destroy the BOWs within.
However, I've also seen video of one of Ada's missions (which I presume was unlocked in the Nemesis section but I haven't acquired it yet) and there's a final thumbtack on the main level select screen which is empty.
So no, you haven't beaten it yet, but I'm not sure how much further you have to go because I'm not there either. I'm assuming I need to get better ranks on the levels before the game will unlock this stuff for me.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 17, 2007, 03:26:55 PM
How much is the nunchuck used for player 2 in multiplayer?
I wanna get a dedicated WiiPlay Shooting Gallery casual to try out a real game, but I don't want to overwhelm her with dual handed action if its too intense.
Post by: Kairon on November 17, 2007, 04:21:03 PM
Now, you can setup RE:UC to have both players control the camera, meaning both can use the nunchuck, or having either the first or second player controlling the camera alone, and only that player needing the nunchuck. Playing with my roommate, I was second player and would never have a nunchuck attached to my wiimote, he had a nunchuck since he was responsible for moving the camera if necessary.
Now that I think about it, it made for a great transition from me being co-star in Galaxy to me being second player in RE:UC, lol.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 17, 2007, 04:33:14 PM
I wanna find more than one easy transition game, something that really only involves the second player aiming at the screen and maybe shooting stuff.
Post by: Kairon on November 17, 2007, 04:43:10 PM
RE:UC is a great transition because it's a light gun game, you just point the wiimote, shoot with B. Of course, in RE:UC you share a life bar so the second player needs to do their part of the defensive gestural duties. Like the first player they can swing their knife, and like the first player they will occasionally be grabbed by enemies and must execute a waggle to counter-attack instead of getting hit. Certain sections of each level include Quick-time-event challenges where both players must execute different gestures or button presses to avoid an obstacle, and if just one person fails their command (pressing A repeatedly, for example, or waggling) then you get hit.
You could always look to the other Light Gun game, Ghost Squad, to help ease in "second players" though Ghost Squad IS yet another shooting game and derives some of its later bonus mode humor from being arcade-like-wacky (the paradise bonus mode uses water guns, women in bikinis, and bananas as knives).
But a real GREAT possibility to ease another player in is Trauma Center New Blood. Everyone understands playing doctor, and this one features co-op extensively!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 17, 2007, 04:53:12 PM
UC is surprisingly good. Even if SB was ecstatic about it I was still feeling a bit dubious. It couldn't be THAT great, especially since impressions ranged from "its decent" to its pretty bad". But here I am, surprised as all hell.
I'm going as far as to call UC the RPG of arcade shooters. The customization along with the strategy really does make it more than your typical arcade shooter.
I think UC works best as a 2 player game as that's where I feel the heart of the strategy lies. While one player is handling a monster the other can either fend off any incoming monster or survey the area for items. 1 player is also good because it reminds me of the classic RE games: your inventory is limited and you are on your own so you must work your way in order to survive.
Controls work fine for me, although on many an occasion the "waggling" doesn't work that well. This happened to me a lot during the Tyrant boss battle in the RE 1 scenario. No matter how hard I shook the Wiimote the game wouldn't pick it up.
I really like the weapons system. It forces you to think and choose wisely as the best weapon can make the whole game. Being able to upgrade them is also a nice plus.
Finally, its awesome that the game doesn't punish you for shooting stuff like crazy. I love collecting random Umbrella files.
My only issues with the game is that the game is quite slow due to its nature and that the difficulty ramps up pretty quickly. But it adds to the fun of it all.
Can't wait to play it some more tomorrow. I unlocked some of the extra scenarios so I can't wait to see what happens next.
Post by: Kairon on November 17, 2007, 05:00:02 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 17, 2007, 05:08:32 PM
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One thing I wish they DIDN'T do with this game is restrict those side-missions that fill in holes in the Resident Evil story. These missions CANNOT be played 2-player... and because of that, I am sad.
That sucks, especially since the game shines in 2 player mode.
Oh well, should be fun to play them just to see another side of the story.
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 18, 2007, 06:51:25 AM
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One thing I wish they DIDN'T do with this game is restrict those side-missions that fill in holes in the Resident Evil story. These missions CANNOT be played 2-player... and because of that, I am sad.
Heh...
Beating all the scenarios unlocks the ability to play 2 player in all those as well
Post by: Kairon on November 18, 2007, 01:02:01 PM
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Beating all the scenarios unlocks the ability to play 2 player in all those as well
HUZZAH!!!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 18, 2007, 01:18:04 PM
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One thing I wish they DIDN'T do with this game is restrict those side-missions that fill in holes in the Resident Evil story. These missions CANNOT be played 2-player... and because of that, I am sad.
Heh...
Beating all the scenarios unlocks the ability to play 2 player in all those as well
So wait...you have to beat EVERY scenario, including the hidden, extra ones, in order to unlock 2 player mode in the bonus scenes?
Just wondering as I am a tad confused.
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 18, 2007, 03:41:25 PM
You need to get A or S ranks on some of the levels to unlock the next part of the level in some cases, though.
Post by: Rhoq on November 19, 2007, 02:45:48 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 19, 2007, 05:37:14 AM
Going through to find all the files next.
Maybe try for Sranks after that...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 19, 2007, 12:35:50 PM
Intro FMV
RE0 intro FMV
RE0 Ch1 gameplay 1
RE0 Ch1 gameplay 2
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 20, 2007, 11:20:34 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 22, 2007, 10:12:16 AM
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 24, 2007, 04:30:13 PM
I've completed the first 3 chapters including the single player only side missions, and it looks like I'm only missing 3 guns(if all the spaces get filled), but I looked in the archives and it looks like I've done absolutely nothing so far. There are so many empty spaces!! Am I really expected to find all that stuff!!?
And one question, can you blast doors open with the shotgun? I've only found one so far(wasn't really looking) and I used a grenade to open it.
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 25, 2007, 05:19:29 PM
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OMG this game is so frustrating in the "normal" single player mode.
I've completed the first 3 chapters including the single player only side missions, and it looks like I'm only missing 3 guns(if all the spaces get filled), but I looked in the archives and it looks like I've done absolutely nothing so far. There are so many empty spaces!! Am I really expected to find all that stuff!!?
And one question, can you blast doors open with the shotgun? I've only found one so far(wasn't really looking) and I used a grenade to open it.
You don't find all the guns until you've gone through everything, really.
As for the files, a second player helps greatly: have one person loot and the other shoot zombies in the knees to slow them down without killing them.
And yes, you can blast doors open with any gun provided you fire enough rounds.
Post by: ShyGuy on December 22, 2007, 10:05:22 PM
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Post by: ShyGuy on January 03, 2008, 04:07:03 AM
Post by: Smoke39 on January 03, 2008, 03:47:06 PM
Post by: Kairon on January 03, 2008, 03:58:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Smoke39
Why're you so lethargic in this game? Like, when getting in an elevator you just kinda stare at the wall for a second before sloooowly turning back around. The majority of the camera movement feels awkwardly sluggish to me.
They're trying to preserve the feeling of the tanky controls from the mainline RE games.
Post by: optimisticlimbo on January 03, 2008, 04:22:28 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on January 05, 2008, 05:28:06 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 05, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
I tried completing the last Wesker mission with the best grade possible and nothing is unlocked. I checked Gamefaqs and all they say is to get an "A" on the mission. Even if I get an "A" nothing happens. Any ideas?
Post by: Kairon on January 05, 2008, 07:02:21 PM
Post by: Smoke39 on January 05, 2008, 07:47:54 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 05, 2008, 11:05:01 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on January 06, 2008, 08:08:52 AM
Post by: Smoke39 on January 06, 2008, 10:27:01 AM
Post by: Kairon on January 06, 2008, 11:36:56 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 07, 2008, 08:21:11 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Stop being weak, all of you.
I have to agree with Pro. My nephew was able to beat the solo Wesker missions by HIMSELF.
Clearly, one player UC is do-able. You just have to put all of your might into it.
Hell, ALL on rails shooters are impossible to beat one player. Try beating HotD 2 by yourself...
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 07, 2008, 08:31:21 AM
Any of the aforementioned will help you get through this game better.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 07, 2008, 09:53:52 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 07, 2008, 05:24:21 PM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
See, the whole weak spot thing is irritating to. I'm not sure what the hit detection is on this game, but sometimes you hit the monster in the face and it does not do a critical hit! Shotgun and SMG ammo is too scarce to compensate for the fact that half the dead-on shots don't register.
I've survived the whole game without ever hitting a weak point.
They ARE hard to find, though.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 07, 2008, 05:43:18 PM
Post by: Kairon on January 07, 2008, 05:44:24 PM
Post by: Smoke39 on January 07, 2008, 05:49:03 PM
And I don't completely suck. D: I've beaten everything by myself on "easy" except for those two guys with the weird sunglasses/visor things in one of the Wesker missions.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 07, 2008, 05:49:14 PM
Post by: Mario on January 09, 2008, 10:10:20 PM
Post by: DAaaMan64 on January 10, 2008, 05:04:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Weak spots are no longer heads. It's this tiny spot of the FOREHEAD. Sorta cool, because truthfully, headshots are way too easy with the Wii.
Ya brainshots are pretty awesome. You can really hull face with brainshots and the pistol.
I beat the game all the way through on easy. I don't know if I'll have the patience for the normal. The hardest boss is not the final boss fortunately.
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 10, 2008, 06:03:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Smoke39
And I don't completely suck. D: I've beaten everything by myself on "easy" except for those two guys with the weird sunglasses/visor things in one of the Wesker missions.
Do what I did: bring the missile launcher with you and hit them when they're together. Two shots, if I remember correctly.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 12, 2008, 08:50:34 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 23, 2008, 04:41:25 PM
WTF
Post by: IceCold on January 23, 2008, 05:00:26 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 23, 2008, 05:23:56 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on January 23, 2008, 05:58:43 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 27, 2008, 07:57:12 PM
... oh dear
Post by: EasyCure on January 28, 2008, 07:06:05 AM
i popped it in, got to the first boss, my batteries died, i shut it off. i bought so my gf could play with me since she's starting to get into games more (cuz of me) and she likes the creepiness of the RE games but we havent had a chance to shoot zombies together like a loving couple should. Still though, you'd think i'd play it more for myself but i just haven't.. i sorta forgot i had it. with trying to finish mario galaxy and now NMH..
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 28, 2008, 09:29:48 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 28, 2008, 09:38:32 PM
RE0 Wesker Ch1 intro FMV
RE0 Wesker Ch1 gameplay 1
RE0 Wesker Ch1 gameplay 2
RE1 Ch1 intro FMV
RE1 Ch1 gameplay 1
RE1 Ch1 gameplay 2
RE1 Ch1 gameplay 3, snake boss
RE1 Rebecca Ch1 intro FMV
RE1 Wesker Ch1 intro FMV
RE3 Ch1 intro FMV
Post by: Kairon on January 29, 2008, 06:16:09 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 29, 2008, 11:02:08 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 09, 2008, 06:04:29 AM
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Post by: Svevan on February 16, 2008, 07:25:21 AM
Post by: Maverick on February 26, 2008, 08:12:49 PM
Definitely not worth 50 bucks, but me and my friend who is a fellow RE nut have been having a blast playing through. Although I think it's insanely dumb that you can't play the bonus levels with two players, as playing this game by yourself is boring as hell.
Post by: Mario on February 26, 2008, 08:31:45 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 26, 2008, 08:44:32 PM
Post by: Maverick on February 26, 2008, 09:32:15 PM
You can unlock it
Say WHAAAAAAAAAAT?
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Post by: ShyGuy on February 26, 2008, 10:49:39 PM
Post by: Maverick on February 26, 2008, 11:31:59 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 27, 2008, 12:58:25 AM
Post by: EasyCure on February 27, 2008, 08:38:51 AM
Post by: Maverick on February 27, 2008, 01:26:40 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 27, 2008, 02:09:01 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 27, 2008, 02:32:54 PM
<3 critical hits
Post by: Smoke39 on February 27, 2008, 02:55:03 PM
Post by: EasyCure on February 27, 2008, 04:36:18 PM
I can't even imagine playing this game by myself. It seems like it would be boring. Playing with someone else who also loves RE makes it all worthwhile.
it's not boring when you nail like 5 zombies in a row in that sweet spot between the eyes :-D and because its a little more difficulty, that adds to the fun factor (for me personaly, i like a challenge) a bit. it does get a bit boring on the slow parts of the game though, and the boss fights could be tedious.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on February 27, 2008, 04:48:58 PM
I can't even imagine playing this game by myself. It seems like it would be boring. Playing with someone else who also loves RE makes it all worthwhile.
it's not boring when you nail like 5 zombies in a row in that sweet spot between the eyes :-D and because its a little more difficulty, that adds to the fun factor (for me personaly, i like a challenge) a bit. it does get a bit boring on the slow parts of the game though, and the boss fights could be tedious.
I agree with EasyCure, I have never played the multi. I have beaten it by myself too. The game isn't to difficult and nailing sweet spots is awesome.
Post by: Maverick on February 28, 2008, 04:34:05 AM
Post by: Mario on February 28, 2008, 09:04:39 AM
Post by: Maverick on February 28, 2008, 01:27:04 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 28, 2008, 01:38:34 PM
Post by: Maverick on February 28, 2008, 01:50:08 PM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 10, 2009, 10:29:49 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 10, 2009, 11:11:00 PM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 11, 2009, 10:01:53 AM
Post by: EasyCure on August 11, 2009, 10:48:04 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 11, 2009, 11:52:03 AM
I didn't think it was impossibly hard or anything, though i did get stuck in one mission.. I think it was fighting those two.. I don't even know what they're called, they wear the white trench coats, in a subway.. I always get so close to winning and then die. Its frustrating, but doesn't seem impossible.
I got a little further than that. Just barely squeaked past that part though
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 11, 2009, 12:13:18 PM
Post by: vudu on August 11, 2009, 02:39:38 PM
I'm currently stuck on the Ada bonus mission. You start off with almost no health and it's a pain in the neck.
Post by: ShyGuy on August 11, 2009, 03:58:50 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 11, 2009, 04:11:19 PM
Post by: vudu on August 11, 2009, 04:15:47 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 11, 2009, 05:28:34 PM
Post by: vudu on August 11, 2009, 05:33:33 PM
Post by: EasyCure on August 11, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 11, 2009, 06:08:45 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on August 11, 2009, 07:39:27 PM
Post by: vudu on August 11, 2009, 07:56:41 PM
Wasn't that a bonus mission anyway?
It was a Wesker mission.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 11, 2009, 08:42:31 PM
Post by: vudu on August 11, 2009, 09:27:06 PM
No, it's a Hunk mission.
No it's not. I beat the mission and I haven't had any Hunk missions.
Post by: ShyGuy on August 11, 2009, 11:10:00 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 12, 2009, 12:49:19 AM
Certain bonus missions must be earned with a minimum B grade on certain missions, or something.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 12, 2009, 12:58:37 AM
Post by: EasyCure on August 12, 2009, 10:13:35 AM
Wasn't that a bonus mission anyway?
It was a Wesker mission.
Thats what i meant by bonus. I was posting from my phone and some of the keys aren't working well, so its a pain in the ass to do spoiler tags.
Post by: vudu on August 12, 2009, 02:32:45 PM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 12, 2009, 02:36:01 PM
Edit - I was misreading the quote that I was replying to, I guess. My bad, my posts make no sense now, but I'll leave this original post for anyone's who is interested. I was mixing up a quote from EasyCure, a post from Pro, and a reply from vudu.
Post by: vudu on August 12, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 12, 2009, 02:39:03 PM
Post by: EasyCure on August 13, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
I know. I was just specifying. There are other bonus missions, such as Becky and Ada.
I haven't gotten Ada's mission, i think.. I really should go back and play that some time. It's a really enjoyable game and I've yet to try duel weilding remotes...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 12, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
