Post by: BoMbErMaN123 on March 02, 2003, 03:50:02 PM
Post by: Ymeegod on March 02, 2003, 03:55:28 PM
Kinda like DMC only had a one year exclusive rights for.
Post by: Mario on March 02, 2003, 04:00:13 PM
How much did you expect Super Mario Sunshine to sell, jeez, its already sold over million in the USA and in Japan and is at over 3.5 million worldwide after being released only for a matter of months, Super Mario Sunshine is selling incredibly well, its worldwide sales surpass Halo. Anyway, of course GTA will sell on Gamecube, its a good game and good games sell on Gamecube, nuff said!Quote
Kinda like DMC only had a one year exclusive rights for.
hmmmm.... tell me more...
Post by: willys85 on March 02, 2003, 04:07:28 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 02, 2003, 04:16:57 PM
Post by: nolimit19 on March 02, 2003, 04:28:13 PM
Post by: Mikey on March 02, 2003, 04:40:43 PM
). Don't get me wrong, I played GTA: VC for tons of hours at my friends, but I believe in the other hands of another developer, this idea could be executed properly.
Post by: The Omen on March 02, 2003, 04:43:45 PM
Exactly why I have a cube, cant get these games anywhere. The other systems best games are available on pc. [gta3,gtavc,halo,']
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 02, 2003, 04:49:15 PM
GameCube has a stigma attached to it whether we like it or not, and regardless of truth value. The average joe thinks that GameCube is for kids, and doesn't have any clue otherwise. That leaves GameCube with a split demographic.
1) Young kids who's parents buy them the console for all ages.
2) Nintendo fans who buy the console because they love Nintendo's games and core philosophy.
3) Hardcore gamers who know the greatness that GameCube possesses.
4) Older gamers who value Nintendo's franchises and/or exclusive titles.
5) Rich people who buy every console regardless.
Now, let's figure out who would buy GTA3 from those groups.
1) Nope. Self explanatory.
2) I would hope that most of us wouldn't care to buy the game. I find the game downright insulting personally, as there is little to no gameplay involved. Just violence and other novelties. The video game equivalent of Eminem.
3) Hardcore gamers can go either way. But let's face it, GTA is focused more on the average gamer kind of person.
4) Liking Nintendo's 1st party games usually implies that gameplay and fun factor are your primary concerns when selecting a game. IMO, GTA doesn't possess much of either of these qualities.
5) No doubt they will buy the game. It does get high scores after all.
Post by: CrYpTiC on March 02, 2003, 05:06:52 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 02, 2003, 05:08:35 PM
Obviously these people would be more inclined to get a GameCube if it had GTA. However, they might just as easily say that they won't get a GameCube because it doesn't have Sega Sports or something like that.
Post by: Mario on March 02, 2003, 05:39:07 PM
Post by: Link on March 02, 2003, 05:46:15 PM
I played GTA and VC on another frinds PS2, and I can't believe how boring it was. I'd rather go fishing in Animal Crossing.
Post by: Slab on March 02, 2003, 06:56:00 PM
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1) Young kids who's parents buy them the console for all ages.
1) Nope. Self explanatory.
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Actually if the young kids buy their own games, then yes I think they will buy GTA. Young kids seem to love anything with a "M" rating on it. It's the "forbidden fruit syndrome". Adults on the other hand seem to treasure value more.
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 02, 2003, 07:29:55 PM
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1) Young kids who's parents buy them the console for all ages.
1) Nope. Self explanatory.
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Actually if the young kids buy their own games, then yes I think they will buy GTA. Young kids seem to love anything with a "M" rating on it. It's the "forbidden fruit syndrome". Adults on the other hand seem to treasure value more.
Yes, I realize that the teen group would want the game, and just might be able to get a copy, but I was actually referring to the younger ones. Most teens I know would rather have an Xbox or PS2, as they are more "cool", and less "kiddie". They aren't mature enough to know how immature they are.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 02, 2003, 07:52:15 PM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
2) I would hope that most of us wouldn't care to buy the game. I find the game downright insulting personally, as there is little to no gameplay involved. Just violence and other novelties. The video game equivalent of Eminem.
You know, if you sat down and spent time with GTA III/Vice City, you would discover there's more to it than simply hacking into people with blades or shooting them whilst down. This is what the media would have you believe the game is, a simple game with no gameplay that mutates todays youth into killing machines.
It has depth. Alot of it.
Saying GTA is all about killing people for fun is the same as saying GoldenEye was all about pumping round after round into people as they fell lifeless to the ground, which is not true.
The gameplay is right up there with the best. People just don't give it a real chance and label it a gore game for casual gamers. Sure, that's what the majority of casual gamers bought it for, to shoot old people and such. But it offers a severe challenge to the let's say, 'real' gamer.
The amount of varied missions is just plain mind blowing, from stealing a sea plane to drop junk mail all over the city (Which actually stays around for the rest of the game) to jumping from roof to to rooftop via a moterbike in order to tilt a light to display advertising for a porno film. There's much more than originally meets the eye.
I believe the GTA series would make a great addition to the CG library, and those who refuse to play it due to what the media tells them, and the fact that it's popular with casual gamers are missing out on one of the greatest 3D games this generation has to offer.
Post by: SilverBack1138 on March 02, 2003, 08:12:26 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 02, 2003, 08:21:06 PM
"This game is the most violent!"
"You can pick up and kill prostitutes!"
"You can run over anyone!"
Stuff like that. But statements like these have been taken out of context millions of times. These things are said usually to criticise the game. Not advertise it. Advertising that you can pick up prostitutes and kill them in a game would put people off. Sure, there would be the people that defend it, like Acclaim for BMX XXX, but it would hurt them. The casual gamer buys this game because of statements like the above. Reminds you of Sony's remarks: "THe PS2 is so powerful, it has enough power to launch a missle".
It's a bit hard to believe that a game like GTA3 has some of the most in-depth gameplay with all that's been said against it, but it is true.
When the casual gamer buys the game, they expect really nothing else except mindless killing and prostitute murdering and car strealing. When they actually find the good gameplay and the exceptional depth it goes into, they automatically divide into three sub-groups. Those that might play the missions, those that will play the missions and get bored and go back to mindless killing and driving around, and those that don't do the missions at all and only do the mindless killing and driving around.
When I first played the game, I was the third group. When I actually sat down and played in on the PC (At the Netbang Internet Cafe in Bankstown), I found quite interesting. I had no sound, and didnt really get what they were saying, but it was pretty enjoyable, for a game like that.
If it comes out on Gamecube, whether it is a remake of GTA3/VC or a completely new game (GTA4), then I'll buy it.
Post by: nolimit19 on March 02, 2003, 08:38:02 PM
Post by: Mario on March 02, 2003, 09:51:20 PM
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Actually I could really care less if any GTA game comes to the GCN. Don't get me wrong, they are good games and they are fun, but I'm not really into them.
Um...... right...... So, u could care less about it, but your not into it... WTF!???????????!!??!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!!??
Post by: StRaNgE on March 02, 2003, 10:09:40 PM
Post by: joeyjojo on March 03, 2003, 12:57:54 AM
gta's a great game man!
Post by: thecubedcanuck on March 03, 2003, 01:15:01 AM
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come on u muppets do your research there is a little machine called a pc which 95 percen of the popluation have..
What about the people who cant stand playing games on a pC?
I would much rather play on a 36 inch tv than a freaking monitor, and I would much rather be sitting on my sofa.
So before you start calling people stupid, remember this. Not everyone is a 14 year old. I sit a PC from 7 am to 8 pm most days working, so the last thing I feel like doing is sitting at it while I relax.
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i bet if hollywood wanted to they could make most americans think terrorism was a good idea and that we should just sit here and like being bombed......enough americans have accepted it already......damn i am sick of all the stupids walking around.
And you are sick of the STUPIDS? talk about irony.
Do you have a car, do you pay for gas? Do you know anything about the current situation in the Middle East? Do you know what a war will do to your counrties economy as well the effect it will have on world balance from a peace standpoint?
I doubt you know much of anything.
Go back and watch your Nascar.
Post by: Tael on March 03, 2003, 02:25:50 AM
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gta's a great game man!
Because you say so, huh? Did you ever think some people might have got bored with the GTA series after GTA2? The games are pretty much all the same. People talk about how it's disappointing that sports games like Madden have minimal upgrades in each new game, GTA is the same really.
Post by: PaLaDiN on March 03, 2003, 03:31:08 AM
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You know, if you sat down and spent time with GTA III/Vice City, you would discover there's more to it than simply hacking into people with blades or shooting them whilst down.
I've played both, I have both, I've finished both, and what I can tell you is, IMO, the only thing more it has is stealing cars and driving people over.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on March 03, 2003, 03:53:23 AM
That would be me. I hate PC games.
"I've played both, I have both, I've finished both, and what I can tell you is, IMO, the only thing more it has is stealing cars and driving people over."
That was funny, seriously. GTA:Vice City IMO does have okay gameplay though. I haven't played the other ones. And I think it would sell.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on March 03, 2003, 04:05:34 AM
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exactly it still amazes me how many gomasses purchased a ps2 for gta3 or vc.....come on u muppets do your research there is a little machine called a pc which 95 percen of the popluation have.......i swear to u, despite being a flaming american, the people that i live with in the country are down right stupid. i dont even know how we could be a super power. i bet if hollywood wanted to they could make most americans think terrorism was a good idea and that we should just sit here and like being bombed......enough americans have accepted it already......damn i am sick of all the stupids walking around.
Let me say that I hate PC games so much that even though I have them for my computer I buy the same game for my console just so I don't have to play on my computer. I won't even get into that whole terrorist thing with you so If you reply to this about that you won't get a response, however, you just made yourself sound like an idiot. And was it really necessary to resort to name calling because of someone's opinion? This is a community message board where anyone can state their opinion as long as it complies with the rules and isn't defamatory to others. I thought our posts were supposed to be more educated than this.
Post by: Dolphin64X on March 03, 2003, 06:14:09 AM
And really, just because a person lives in the US and drives a car doesn't mean they're a rednect or a rightist. You live in a country. You don't neccesarily affect its governments decisions, especially when the president says he doesn't care about protests and will do anything anyways.
But politics, I have a feeling, is a bad topic in a games forum.
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 03, 2003, 06:33:26 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on March 03, 2003, 07:11:03 AM
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I have played it to the second part of the city, and it was there that I got really bored with it. All the missions start to look alike after a while,
and you didnt get bored scanning 3 billion items in Prime? Gimme a break.
Damn do I hate fanboys.
Post by: nolimit19 on March 03, 2003, 07:15:35 AM
if anything a war would help the economy(i live in the us)...it always has........but back to gta....i am not sayings its a bad game, but i do think its over rated. and i can respect the fact that u dont like playin games on the computer......but i doubt that u are one of the people that my comment was meant for. or anyone on these forums. its people who are like gta3 rules......and they dont know what devil may cry is or ffx....stupids like that. and one last thing...raising oil prices has little to do with iraq at this point.
http://www.oilandgasnewsworldwide.com/News.asp?Article=8589
do ur research buddy.
Post by: RahXephon on March 03, 2003, 07:16:45 AM
And anyone who does not want to get rid of Sadam might as well go to the middle east and say "OH sorry your children are suffering, but it is not my problem. We'll just sit at home untill he has enough firepower to destroy the world, theeennnn we'll do something."
If you want to talk about war, go read about war. Heres a nice starting place. Go read Hobbes. Maybe if you read LITERATURE on war you will understand it better.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on March 03, 2003, 07:20:41 AM
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raising oil prices has little to do with iraq at this point.
LMAO, I am a bond trader pal, trust me when I say it has everything to with it. As for the economy getting better with a war, that to is laughable. This isnt ww2 where we will be building tanks and ammo and rubber plants. This will be a war that costs 1/2 a billion a day to fight, and that doesnt even include the cost of reprecutions that the US will feel.
This will be ugly.
Post by: RahXephon on March 03, 2003, 07:24:22 AM
Post by: nolimit19 on March 03, 2003, 07:26:40 AM
when did i name call and how am i an idiot. and also i think its blown out of proportions how iraq has affected the oil prices. we do get lots of oil from venezuela, and there is a stike. i dont care if u are a day trader....im a buisness student....lets all start naming off what we do for a living. what does that have to do with anything. and it remains a fact that everytime america has gotten into a war, the economy has benifited.
and about gta, cuz i dont want to get booted, it still is a good game, it has just over achieved imo. more power to rockstar for that, but it not a work of art or anything. it is still a fun game though.....i personally just over played it.i loved it when i first played it though, and if gta5 was exclusive to gc, i dont know if it would do much for the cube because i think people will start to get over it by then. sony made a huge move by making sure it stayed for ps2.
Post by: DrunkenBone on March 03, 2003, 08:25:37 AM
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Personally, I don't think it would sell well on GameCube at all. (Or at least I HOPE it wouldn't).
GameCube has a stigma attached to it whether we like it or not, and regardless of truth value. The average joe thinks that GameCube is for kids, and doesn't have any clue otherwise. That leaves GameCube with a split demographic.
1) Young kids who's parents buy them the console for all ages.
2) Nintendo fans who buy the console because they love Nintendo's games and core philosophy.
3) Hardcore gamers who know the greatness that GameCube possesses.
4) Older gamers who value Nintendo's franchises and/or exclusive titles.
5) Rich people who buy every console regardless.
1. Ahh 17+ is an age group
2. I love Nintendo, but that didn't stop me from buying RE1: remake, RE:0, Enternal Darkness, etc
3. The heck are u trying to say here? Cause I like other console or computer games I'm not HC gammer? Limiting yourself to 1 option dosn't make you a HC gammer.
4. Ahhhh.... wrong. I like NBA Streets, NFL 2k2,NBA2k2, Maden 2003, etc
5. So what if rich ppl can buy all consoles. It's also nice to see the difference of the same games on different platforms.
Ill give you another group
6. People who enjoy every game and dosn't care if its for another platform other than Nintendo, but still is a Nintendo fanboy.
Post by: willys85 on March 03, 2003, 09:33:10 AM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 03, 2003, 10:19:29 AM
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Originally posted by: RahXephon
If you wanna play a GOOD GAME like GTA, then get The Getaway, at least it has some final purpose.
Actually, the final purpose of The Getaway is to unlock the free roam mode, which is just what GTA offers from the start. The Getaway is an excellent example of what happens when you take too long to develop a game. You get an outdated game with terrible graphics. If it were released when it was due (Feb, 01), it would have been the biggest thing since... Godzilla.. Or.. Maybe.. Something bigger.
.... Off-Topic (As if that last part wasn't), Joey Joe Joe, your screen name ROCKS
Homer: Hey Moe
Moe: Yeah?
Homer: You see, I got this friend.. Uh, Joey Joe Joe... Shabadoo?
Moe: That's the worst name I've ever heard.
*Man runs out crying*
Barney: Joey Joe Joe, come back!
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 03, 2003, 12:04:24 PM
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I have played it to the second part of the city, and it was there that I got really bored with it. All the missions start to look alike after a while,
and you didnt get bored scanning 3 billion items in Prime? Gimme a break.
Damn do I hate fanboys.
Scanning 3 billion items in Metroid Prime is far different. You are uncovering a mystery as you go along, and it is HARDLY necessary to scan that many things. I scanned them all because I was curious about the story. If I just wanted to play the game, it is perfectly obvious what things I need to scan.
Just because I don't like GTA doesn't mean I am a blind fanboy. It just means that I have taste. Read a few of my posts before you start labelling me, ok? I constantly give praise to great games, regardless of their system of origin.
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1. Ahh 17+ is an age group
2. I love Nintendo, but that didn't stop me from buying RE1: remake, RE:0, Enternal Darkness, etc
3. The heck are u trying to say here? Cause I like other console or computer games I'm not HC gammer? Limiting yourself to 1 option dosn't make you a HC gammer.
4. Ahhhh.... wrong. I like NBA Streets, NFL 2k2,NBA2k2, Maden 2003, etc
5. So what if rich ppl can buy all consoles. It's also nice to see the difference of the same games on different platforms.
Ill give you another group
6. People who enjoy every game and dosn't care if its for another platform other than Nintendo, but still is a Nintendo fanboy.
Sorry, I think you misunderstood me somewhat.
1) Don't know what your point is on that one... I do know people like the ones I was referring to though.
2) I own and love RE0, and Eternal Darkness. The poitn is that those games have something to offer that's more than GTA. (I hate the game, as it has no depth).
3) I was simply saying that a hardcore gamer MUST own a GameCube, just as he MUST own a PS2.
4) Did not mean to imply that you couldn't like sports games, I just meant that it's not as likely.
5) I really don't see much point in buying every game 3 times. I think that even rich people would agree with that.
As for your number 6, If you will do some checking around this forum, I believe you might see that I do fall into this category, but does little to change the fact that I HATE GTA, as it really has no redeeming qualities. There is a reason I like DMC, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, Silent Hill 2, Shadow of Destiny, Ninja Gaiden, and many others.
There are also very good reasons for my hating Metal Gear Solid 2, and Grand Theft Auto. Do not simply tell me that I hate them because I love Nintendo. That kind of thinking seriously annoys me.
Post by: DrunkenBone on March 03, 2003, 01:09:35 PM
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There are also very good reasons for my hating Metal Gear Solid 2, and Grand Theft Auto. Do not simply tell me that I hate them because I love Nintendo. That kind of thinking seriously annoys me.
When did I type that?
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 03, 2003, 04:07:42 PM
Not to say I don't like PS2 or whatever. . . I just don't think that I would spend 50 dollars on that game. It doesn't appeal to my tastes. It's fun to play on occassion, but I myself wouldn't buy it.
Post by: Grey Ninja on March 03, 2003, 04:53:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
There are also very good reasons for my hating Metal Gear Solid 2, and Grand Theft Auto. Do not simply tell me that I hate them because I love Nintendo. That kind of thinking seriously annoys me.
When did I type that?
I thought it was implied in your #6. If it wasn't, my apologies.
Post by: joeyjojo on March 03, 2003, 06:31:53 PM
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Originally posted by: joeyjojo
gta's a great game man!
Because you say so, huh? Did you ever think some people might have got bored with the GTA series after GTA2? The games are pretty much all the same. People talk about how it's disappointing that sports games like Madden have minimal upgrades in each new game, GTA is the same really.
whoa. its getting pretty political and argumentative in here! but i will jump on the quoting bandwagon just to say that ive played gta1,2 &3 and i was really impressed by the way it was brought to life in 3d. i found that all these gameplay elements, esp. control, graphics (the city is so big and well made), story, and sound (the radio is excellent) came together so well. it all worked very well together and this has made it a memorable game. this is what i think of the game. im not attempting to persuade anyone to like it!
Hey! thanks for the compliment Infernal!
Peace
Post by: Tael on March 03, 2003, 07:24:13 PM
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...but i will jump on the quoting bandwagon just to say that ive played gta1,2 &3 and i was really impressed by the way it was brought to life in 3d. i found that all these gameplay elements, esp. control, graphics (the city is so big and well made), story, and sound (the radio is excellent) came together so well.
If you ask me, the story was the only thing they added with GTA3, and that was really just background for the missions. All the GTA games were 3D technically, so all GTA3 really added in terms of gameplay was aiming up and down, and shooting from the cars.
Post by: Slab on March 03, 2003, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 03, 2003, 10:10:44 PM
I did enjoy the little Christmas patch they released for 1997, you got to slaughter Santa. Pointless stress remover!
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on March 03, 2003, 10:30:26 PM
Vice City wasnt great either, just new setting and and bikes. I actually prefferred GTA3 over Vice City.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 04, 2003, 12:36:56 AM
But too much freedom got a little boring. I mean, sure, you can do the taxi mssions, the vigilante missions, police missions, or just trying to get as many stars as possibles, but there is a limit to when you get bored of doing this.
And you DO get bored.
There was one problem I had with the game. And that was the character control. Walking and running felt like a trip down Mission: Impossible. What's worse was when it came to beat/crowds of police/thugs/gang members. It was truly horrid. Even the battle system in Eternal Darkness (when you're not using targeting) was better than in GTA3.
Post by: Boral on March 04, 2003, 05:20:22 AM
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come on u muppets do your research there is a little machine called a pc which 95 percen of the popluation have
Exactly why I have a cube, cant get these games anywhere. The other systems best games are available on pc. [gta3,gtavc,halo,']
same here...
I have a good PC for playing GTA games and FPS games.
If a game is released on multiple platforms I'll always get them for PC,
but many of my favorites are GameCube games. 7 of 8 games that I own for GC are GC ONLY.
I bougth Vice City when it was relesed and I had to borrow a PS2 of a friend of mine.
Played the game for 5 days barely sleeping, the 6th day I finished it and the 7th I rested
Mac Boral
Post by: Samwise Gamgee on March 04, 2003, 05:51:19 AM
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exactly it still amazes me how many gomasses purchased a ps2 for gta3 or vc.....come on u muppets do your research there is a little machine called a pc which 95 percen of the popluation have.......i swear to u, despite being a flaming american, the people that i live with in the country are down right stupid. i dont even know how we could be a super power. i bet if hollywood wanted to they could make most americans think terrorism was a good idea and that we should just sit here and like being bombed......enough americans have accepted it already......damn i am sick of all the stupids walking around.
i heard a statistic that around 50% of all americans read at a grade 5 level
Post by: nolimit19 on March 04, 2003, 06:07:18 AM
are u trying to be funny.....cuz either way it is.
"i heard a statistic that around 50% of all americans read at a grade 5 level"
yea its probably close to that, thats probably why our news papers are written at a 6th grade level.........but i shouldnt get onto that topic again, it pissed too many people off.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 04, 2003, 03:13:07 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 05, 2003, 01:56:28 AM
Vice City is pretty good. I must say. The Taxi Missions are pretty good, and I think are good to the likes of Crazy Taxi (although they're not as Crazy). The Police missions, Ambulance, and so on are OK. There is one thing that just doesn't make sense to me, and that's the mini-game involving the mini-cars. What The?
Another thing I have to my post from above, the way the cars are just sux. The handling is pretty representetive of how they might handle in real life, but that's a bit hard to determine, since most of the time it feels like you're driving ON THE MOON. Once you're side on a hill, your car goes flipside. I think that all cars from ANY game involving cars should use Acclaim's Burnout 2 crash physics. They are the coolest and jaw-dropping scenes to watch in any game. It makes GT3, Project Gotham and Sega GT 2002 slow like a cow on sleeping drugs by comparison.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 05, 2003, 03:17:36 PM
Speaking of Burnout 2, I recently unlocked a new cheat, one crash and you die. Makes for some VERY tense racing. No, no! Don't drift into the back of that semi! BAM! *Flips into side of house*
... Drat.
Post by: Cru_Jones83 on March 05, 2003, 09:52:04 PM
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The video game equivalent of Eminem.
I think that its funny that you say that it is the videogame equivalent of Eminem. Believe it or not, Eminem is one of the most talented rap artists out their, he is just getting a bad rep because he is white. Not because he is white, but because he is influencing so many people in white america... anyways, I am off topic, just bothers me when people think that Eminem is the worst thing that has ever happened when lots of black rappers reaching black kids have been doing it for years and it just goes unnoticed, but again... that's the kind of influence the U.S. media has on most of the weak U.S. minds who follow whatever they are told to follow. I think Nolimit sums it up best when he says
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i swear to u, despite being a flaming american, the people that i live with in the country are down right stupid. i dont even know how we could be a super power. i bet if hollywood wanted to they could make most americans think terrorism was a good idea and that we should just sit here and like being bombed......enough americans have accepted it already......damn i am sick of all the stupids walking around.
amen brother
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 06, 2003, 03:17:15 AM
Off topic, so:
The graphics in GTA3 suck hard. Blurry as hell, and that 'soft' lighting makes it even blurrier. But I guess that can be excused for the absolutely massive city you have to travel in and around. But the graphics suck.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on March 06, 2003, 04:37:05 AM
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i swear to u, despite being a flaming american, the people that i live with in the country are down right stupid. i dont even know how we could be a super power. i bet if hollywood wanted to they could make most americans think terrorism was a good idea and that we should just sit here and like being bombed......enough americans have accepted it already......damn i am sick of all the stupids walking around.
Dont want to bash you americans, but hell, your right. Ive been visiting american high schools and they are about 3 or more years behind in math, languages....pretty much everything. I just wish (please dont take this as too much of an offense) that the american population would get more involved in politics, I believe that could avoid alot of pollution, social imbalance and war.
Back to topic, its not like the US is the only place GTA sold like Hotcakes. Its really alarming how violent and stupid the western world is becoming. For all my friends GTA is the best game ever, and I always considered them intelligent people.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on March 06, 2003, 04:56:17 AM
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Back to topic, its not like the US is the only place GTA sold like Hotcakes. Its really alarming how violent and stupid the western world is becoming. For all my friends GTA is the best game ever, and I always considered them intelligent people.
I dont see how what games someone enjoys playing can be used as a deciding factor in determining their intelligence level?
My brother in law is a doctor, his favorite movie is Happy Gilmore, does that make him stupid?
I golf with an accountant and lawyer every week and both collect comics, are they morons?
Get the point.
GTA is a good game, I find it to be fun to play, it lets me get out pent up aggresion in a safe and enjoyable way. Why is that so wrong?
Post by: Cru_Jones83 on March 06, 2003, 06:12:53 AM
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I dont see how what games someone enjoys playing can be used as a deciding factor in determining their intelligence level?
The discussion is about how brainwashed the Americans are by the media, not how stupid they are for playing GTA but how stupid they are for following what the media says blindly.
Anywyas, this should really get back on topic.
I only think it would sell if it was an exclusive.
Post by: nolimit19 on March 06, 2003, 06:34:46 AM
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on March 06, 2003, 09:37:36 AM
And to you nolimit19, your right, Mafia is better. But its a totally different game, a game that builds on atmosphere, realism, story, authentic Mafia feel. To compare Mafia to GTA seems like an insult. Mafia was developed for several years and achieves a totally different gameplay than GTA.
Really amazing to think that the best Mafia game out there was developed by Croatian (or Czech not sure) people.
Post by: digitalshogun on March 06, 2003, 10:06:43 AM
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Post by: jasstoltz on March 06, 2003, 11:09:33 AM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 06, 2003, 11:26:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Termin8Anakin
Yo Infernal: Are you talkin about Burnout 2 for Gamecube or PS2?
Off topic, so:
The graphics in GTA3 suck hard. Blurry as hell, and that 'soft' lighting makes it even blurrier. But I guess that can be excused for the absolutely massive city you have to travel in and around. But the graphics suck.
First off, Burnout 2 for PS2 =P
And second, yeah, the blurry graphics in GTAIII are thanks to the 'trails' option. It's on by default, and is basically a huge amount of motion blur. Quite annoying.
It can be turned off, giving everything a crisper, more solid look. But the frame rate takes a hit -_-
