Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 30, 2006, 12:03:59 AM
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/715/715867p1.html
Now I think this is horrid so PS3 + 1 game may cost more than 700!?!?! thats insane. And what the hell is Sony thinking and recently a lot of the Japanese have a negative stance against the PS3 and some developers think that Sony is going to struggle selling atleast 6000 PS3's and this doesn't bode well for sony.
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on June 30, 2006, 04:59:58 AM
And if this happens, I fully expect 3rd party developers to shift games to the Xbox 360 and Wii where prices will be more normal, even though 59.99 for a game that is nothing but a glorified port of a Xbox and PS2 game, right now, is a little much to swallow.
I expect, just like this round, I will buy more Nintendo system games than I bought for PS2, or Xbox (I have only like 4 Xbox games).
Post by: Requiem on June 30, 2006, 05:13:59 AM
Granted if you can afford the PS3 and the TV to match, $60+ isn't that big of a deal. But when the loving mother goes shopping for her child, or the college student looks to spend some finacial aid, it'll be Nintendo or Microsoft they look to. Sony has made a niche for themselves before the console is even out! They priced themselves out of their own market.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on June 30, 2006, 05:27:30 AM
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Post by: Caterkiller on June 30, 2006, 07:35:02 AM
I collect Marvel statues(and soon to be Nintendo also) which range anywhere from 100 -300 and around 50 bucks for a single bust. I may buy about... 1 or 2 a month, same with games. But geez man, I do not want to pay $59.99 for a single game, I don't care how epic or amazing. And i'll be danged if im going to pay 70 for a game just because it got alot prettier. I can wait for price dropes, hopefuly more people will to, and eventualy that kiinda stuff destroyes Sony.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 30, 2006, 07:41:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Caterkiller
The moment I saw this thread, my buddy walks out of my room saying some lady on G4 was complaining that PS3 games would 60 bucks or more. I mean man, really, what most Sony be feeling right now? This really feels like Sony's generation to lose, the tables seem to be turning in Nintendo's favor.
I collect Marvel statues(and soon to be Nintendo also) which range anywhere from 100 -300 and around 50 bucks for a single bust. I may buy about... 1 or 2 a month, same with games. But geez man, I do not want to pay $59.99 for a single game, I don't care how epic or amazing. And i'll be danged if im going to pay 70 for a game just because it got alot prettier. I can wait for price dropes, hopefuly more people will to, and eventualy that kiinda stuff destroyes Sony.
You do not want to pay $59.99 for real time weapon change, PSP rear view mirrors and giant crabs? An OUTRAGE.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 30, 2006, 08:17:37 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on June 30, 2006, 08:36:04 AM
Post by: Requiem on June 30, 2006, 09:52:02 AM
$60+ for a game.
That's 60 double cheeseburgers
That's 4 DVDs
That's a date with your girlfriend that'll most likely get you laid
That's half way to a DS lite or two DS games
That's two tickets to a concert
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Nobody in there right mine would pay 60+ for a game, especially when the prerequiste costs $600.
Post by: JonLeung on June 30, 2006, 09:54:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
wow.......it seems like sony went all the way to make sure that noone will buy the PS3...
It's like there's a stupid Sony comment a week! (It feels like this week we probably had a couple already, we're ahead of quota!)
Since it's to be expected, they may announce something else ridiculous next week. We could probably place bets as to what it will involve.
Maybe they'll start claiming that Sega and Atari copied stuff from them! Maybe they'll resort to calling people stupid or lazy if they don't work the extra hours to afford the PS3! Maybe since they want it to be a computer so bad they'll offer incentives for workplaces to throw out their PCs and get PS3s instead! Maybe they'll find that the shoulder buttons interfere with motion control so they'll get rid of them! Maybe they'll announce that the price is really higher than what they said at E3 and it's still worth it! In fact, they'll say it's a great deal! Maybe they'll say you can only hook it up to a Sony TV - that is, a widescreen HDTV no less than 60"! Maybe the controllers can only be used with your particular PS3 - so everyone has to buy multiple controllers and they can't be shared! Maybe the controllers are $150 each!
Who knows?
Post by: KDR_11k on June 30, 2006, 11:06:00 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 30, 2006, 12:09:07 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
60$, that's... 15$ less than Europeans pay for a Gamecube game.
At that rate im affraid to ask the Xbox360 game prices and in this case the PS3 game prices.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 30, 2006, 01:18:01 PM
QuoteYou have to pay $60 to go on a date with your girlfriend and most likely get laid?
Originally posted by: Requiem
Think about it though...
$60+ for a game.
That's 60 double cheeseburgers
That's 4 DVDs
That's a date with your girlfriend that'll most likely get you laid
That's half way to a DS lite or two DS games
That's two tickets to a concert
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Nobody in there right mine would pay 60+ for a game, especially when the prerequiste costs $600.
If you have a girlfriend it shouldn't cost you anything to get laid, and if you happen to spend $60 she will most likely pay me back in some other(non-monetary) way
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Post by: Athrun Zala on June 30, 2006, 04:35:17 PM
Quotewell......60 is about half the price we have to pay here for all the decent GC games...
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
60$, that's... 15$ less than Europeans pay for a Gamecube game.
Post by: Requiem on June 30, 2006, 07:47:04 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1QuoteYou have to pay $60 to go on a date with your girlfriend and most likely get laid?
Originally posted by: Requiem
Think about it though...
$60+ for a game.
That's 60 double cheeseburgers
That's 4 DVDs
That's a date with your girlfriend that'll most likely get you laid
That's half way to a DS lite or two DS games
That's two tickets to a concert
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Nobody in there right mine would pay 60+ for a game, especially when the prerequiste costs $600.
If you have a girlfriend it shouldn't cost you anything to get laid, and if you happen to spend $60 she will most likely pay me back in some other(non-monetary) way
Well, I said most likely because dates don't always go as planned (or it could be that time of the month).
Post by: KDR_11k on June 30, 2006, 09:33:11 PM
Lord: 68€, 86$. I've seen one labelled 75€ (95$) but I think that was a labelling error. PC, DS and GBA games are 40-45€ (51-57$)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 02, 2006, 09:50:25 AM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 02, 2006, 04:07:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
Actually, this is for the people in the States, anybody else remember when Computer games where just another peice of software so they sold that way? I mean I knew for a little bit all the games I wanted were like $70 after the CD-Rom took off that changed drastically but that's beside the point. Yeah Exchange rates are evil.
I recall that, if I remember Doom II was quite expensive when it first came out.
Post by: Kairon on July 02, 2006, 04:32:58 PM
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 03, 2006, 04:58:50 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 03, 2006, 08:15:08 AM
I am most worried about the peripheral costs this next generation. Xbox360 has $50.00 controllers that are just scary priced...but the Wii could be similarly priced. To me this worse news because to collect the controllers to play your favorite multi-player game will be $150.00 OUCH!!!
I am still holding out that the Wii controllers will only be $40.00 or less. Please Nintendo...don't charge too much.
As for everything else. I think the gaming market can never make it truly mainstream because of the costs of gaming. Who can buy all this stuff? The gaming market needs to find a means to get console games to a $20.00-$25.00 price range to really get mass market support. Think DVD prices and you will find more people willing to take the plunge. That is unless you charge $600.00 for your system.
Post by: Requiem on July 03, 2006, 08:19:19 AM
"+" !
That means it could get as high as a $100.
BluRay Discs aren't cheap and neither is developing for the PS3, so I wouldn't put it past developers to charge 65 or even 75 dollars for a game.
It's another nail in the coffin.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 03, 2006, 12:49:42 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I seem to recall computer games being cheaper in the past, mostly because they were created by two guys in a garage rather than a multinational corporation. I got the TMHT arcade game for the C64 for 20 DM (~10$) back then, same for IO and Boulder Dash 2. Shareware would usually show costs of 10-30$.
That is true too, but I believe games like Doom 2 were built by a relatively large team so that probaly explains the price. Heck I remember the game being on 4 or more disks.
Post by: Ceric on July 03, 2006, 07:04:51 PM
You know it's sort of sad but I think now people won't get the Press Any Key joke.
I'm getting old in my young age. Or remember the mighty 8-10 disk installs and Windows actually saving your information on the media so when you installed again it was under you name period. "No... First you have to Exit Windows to DOS before you turn the computer off"There where cheap games mind you but, the ones that were developed by actual companies could be quiet expensive.
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 03, 2006, 08:04:06 PM
I am not saying the prices aren't too high. I am just saying, the prices alone are not a nail in the coffin, yet. It is frustrating, yes. But we won't know how the public reacts until they can buy the system. There is alot of iffs that Sony is counting on...but if one of them comes true then they can still be number one.
1) If the prices doesn't matter. People will pay for preceived quality. If Sony can convince the world that the PS3 really is superior to everything else on the market, then the PS3 will sale. At first it will be status symbol for rich gamers, but that could help its sales as everyone wants to be the cool kid with the expensive toy. No matter what the price though, the PS3 is selling out on the first week, if not day one.
2)Blue-Ray becomes popular or the standard. If Sony wins the HD war in movies then Sony is set to have a wonderful PS3 system priced at a nice price point for the market. It won't be perfect mass market appeal, but those who love movies will buy it.
3)The status quo doesn't change. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all have a perception from this generation. If the status quo doesn't change, then the PS3 will still be considered the system to know, just because of the PS2 success. Xbox will still be solid for multiplayer online play...and Nintendo 3rd again.
Any one of these situations could happen, in which price won't matter as long as it stays somewhat reasonable. And $65-70 is somewhat reasonsable when compared to the 360s $59.99 priced games.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 03, 2006, 10:39:03 PM
How can you justify that just because a PS3 game may look more prettier than a X360 game it automatically is considered to be reasonable to compared to the 59.99 X360 game price? Or just the PS3 discs are just optical media with a higher capacity so they can automatically cost more than X360 games and still considered to be reasonably priced in a comparison?
The average joe wont give a shite and will probably buy the cheaper version.
Post by: Arbok on July 03, 2006, 10:59:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
The average joe wont give a shite and will probably buy the cheaper version.
Look no further than the PS1 vs. N64 days to see this in action too. System wide differences in game prices can cause for a huge shift in the user base overtime.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 04, 2006, 01:28:57 AM
Features real-time fanboyism change!
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 04, 2006, 07:27:25 AM
Cheaper prices are nice, but if the public embraces a system the prices won't matter...and I think that is what Sony is betting on. Will the prices affect IF people embrace the product sure.
But that is Sony's marketing job to make sure it doesn't.
Pricing and what people are willing to pay isn't always logical...if it were people would never pay $100 for Nike shoes.
Sony may be able to do a few things with their games to really push the envelope. If they incorporate Surround sound in every game...and use the additional space to up resolution even greater than Xbox 360 then they will be in business. They could also include making of movies and behind the scenes movie for bonus features. Anything that makes people believe the game is worth more.
Personally, I would love a running commentary at certain points of a game, to see what designers were thinking during the game.
It is all in marketing and positioning.
Note: This isn't a support for Sony, or those prices...I am just trying to look at things with a realistic perspective.
Post by: Arbok on July 04, 2006, 08:43:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
All I am saying is if the system is embraced then people WILL buy the games. Look at how much money we spend just for designer clothing, shoes, going out to eat, and such.
Clothing, shoes and eating out are typically things that are done knowing that others will be judging you based on these choices and that they will be out for all to see; adding the "incentive" for consumers to spend more money believing it will increase their own status.
Video Games, DVDs and other forms of home entertainment are not. You don't go around showing off your game collection in public, unless it's a handheld (and I have never even seen someone do that, but I'm sure it's more possible). These items are bought less for raising status and more for their actual utility to the consumer (take a college marketing class to have this fact drilled in semester long...). Yes there will be early adopters who show off the system itself, although this is hardly a majority in society as they typically only account for 5% of the population. However, games will not fall into that same category.
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Cheaper prices are nice, but if the public embraces a system the prices won't matter...and I think that is what Sony is betting on.
The N64 seems to disagree.
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Note: This isn't a support for Sony, or those prices...I am just trying to look at things with a realistic perspective.
You are comparing two unrelated things. You would need to find a more expensive home media format that has succeeded to support your claim.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 04, 2006, 10:37:59 AM
Post by: Requiem on July 04, 2006, 01:01:12 PM
Though you may have a point, you are focusing on the wrong topic.
My point is: Pricing the games higher will lead to the system being less popular, period. It may not make a big difference (what you are debating), but it will make a difference.
It is another nail in the coffin because of that point alone.
Post by: MaryJane on July 04, 2006, 02:13:40 PM
If Nintendo were to make an MMORPG with all of their characters, I wouldn't hesistate to slap down $100 for the game and $15 a month to play. I might complain about it, but I'd still buy it.
If Sony can make games that people feel are worth paying $60 or $70 dollars for, and still release the "generic" ones for $50 or $55 they may not have a problem. I may or may not buy a ps3, but that's going to depend on how well the system does. The only reason I bought a ps2 was for the RPG's I couldn't get on GC. If ps3 gets all the RPG's again, I'm going to buy one, and pay $70 to play an RPG also. I think everyone has a genre of games they'd pay more for. Or perhaps even things within the game. There's a lot of talk about how HD isn't very popular yet, and all that, but you know what? HD graphics will sell to people. They'll think oh sweet high def graphics, it's better than everything else, and not realize that to their standard t.v HD graphics don't mean a thing. These people are the sheep, and as you can see from the ps2 sony has good prarie dogs. A lot of casual gamers only buy a game a month or less so spending an extra 10 or 20 dollars for them wouldn't matter much I think. The initial cost that's a much bigger issue i think. But from speaking to people who plan on buying one, they seem to think the price is justified with how powerful the system is. A lot of money for a lot of power. It's unfortunate but that's how people seem to be looking at it. Only for computers and cars I'd say that formula holds true for, and not even in all cases.
Post by: Ceric on July 04, 2006, 03:59:12 PM
(This seem to loss coherency around half way through but I'll leave it.)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 04, 2006, 05:02:49 PM
1) Find a means to create cheaper games. Nintendo is going this route with the Wii and DS. They are trying to do everything they can to keep development costs down and create high quality games. This means is a short term answer...but one that is successful.
2)Enlarge the market of game buyers. This is very hard...with all the different rental programs out and so many games fighting for our money it is quite hard to increase the number of sales for each software credited. Nintendo is trying to do this by broadening the market...appealing to traditional gamers, but also reaching out to nongamers, and casual gamers. This market is untapped, but still has money to spend. This however, doesn't promise increased software sales units however. So you must find ways to make your games worth the purchase...which leads to...
3)Creating games with more quality and quantity of game. Several games are doing this by adding extra quests, remixed or harder versions of game, hidden characters, or other types of unlockables. The secret to this is not to use codes, but challenges to unlock the goodies...the balance is hard though, because you still want everyone to experience everything in the game. Another means to this quality and quantity I hinted at before. Create special behind the scenes footage, commentaries, anything that true fans of the game can watch and enjoy. These specials don't have to cost too much to produce, but will add alot of value to the experience. Just remember, don't go for cheesy and sparkling innovationy, provide real meat with the specials.
Basically, prices are going to rise...unless the market grows so much that millions of people are buying each and every game (like the movies) If that can happen, then prices can drop, because more people in the market are buying the product creating more cash flow.
Unfortunately, I don't see the market growing that much right now.
Post by: couchmonkey on July 05, 2006, 07:15:47 AM
Having said that, I'm VERY happy I'm not a Sony fanboy right now.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 05, 2006, 09:15:41 AM
And that's good because as a kid I could only afford games from flea markets or bargain bins.
60 Euros is already enough. In fact it's already too damn much. At that price I see various games I'd like but I only buy a small number of them because 60 Euros is just too much.
Post by: Requiem on July 05, 2006, 12:44:44 PM
Rising prices and more expensive tech is the perfect catalyst to help the videogame market collapse. This is already evident in Japan. And if all the next gen systems were as expensive as the PS3's, then it would collapse, period.
You guys don't think it's a nail in the coffin because of percieved quality, but you guys are thinking like gamers. If someone looking to get back into gaming or has never gamed before, the PS3 is not going to be a sale for them.
Post by: oohhboy on July 05, 2006, 01:14:54 PM
Bargain hunting allows to play and try more games. The other day I brought Smugglers run for 20NZD (10USD). Would have never paid full price for it in my life, but it is a blast to play at 20 bucks.
If prices went up univerisally cross the board I would think twice before committing. At 60+ I would never buy anything.
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 05, 2006, 02:39:33 PM
I don't know what the answer is. Part of me thinks that if you actually lower the price you will get many more sales at full price...but then will it be enough additional sales to balance out the price drop? It depends if the market grows or not.
I really look at this issue from the perspective of pricing seasons of television. Remember when X-Files first came out it was like $100 for the series, and still today Star Trek seems to be that expensive. Not many people were willing to spend the money. But when the prices are down to like $35-$50.00 more and more people are willing to buy.
Obviously the expensive in creating television was already calculated in the commercials, but newer shows are gaining budgets beyond advertising dollars in anticipation of DVD set sales. So pricing is very important. I guess the point is the market for television series on DVD increased when the price came down. Could the same happen with video games? Potentially yes...but first you have to get a system in as many homes that have DVD players.
Sony, is taking the approach that people pay for quality. Their system seems to be a high quality high powered system...and as such they believe it is worth $600.00. If they can make that single sell...then they will have buyers for the games and movies...because after you have the system, you are going to have to support it.
If they can't make the intial sale then no matter what price the games are, it doesn't matter. So will the price of games affect the initial purchases of the PS3. I don't think so...and I don't think it will have a long term effect either...at least not on the hardcore gamers. Will the pricing bring new gamers in...hell no. But I don't think Sony cares to do that.
Post by: Requiem on July 05, 2006, 03:37:58 PM
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If they can make that single sell...then they will have buyers for the games and movies...because after you have the system, you are going to have to support it.
People don't buy a new system simply based on the specs of that system alone. They look at the media that is offered as well.
So if I am buying a PS3, I won't only look at the back of the box and then take it home. No. I would also look at the games and movies being released and further contemplate my decision.
If I saw that the games were $60+ and the BRD movies were expensive as well, I would think hard about what the hell I was getting into. I wouldn't just buy it while ignorant of the price of software, only to come back to the store to find out that I have to pay $60+ for a game.
But yes, you are right. If I do percieve that the PS3 is worth the purchase, media and all, then of course I would have to support it.
However, it is another nail in the coffin simply because people now have to factor in the price of games and movies, as well as the price of PS3 when making their decision. They are going to have to think hard about their "percieved quality." Especially since the 360 is cheaper and offers basically the same features, and also, the Wii is much cheaper and offers a totally new experience.
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 05, 2006, 06:33:35 PM
And again. I hate this price point. With everything I have said, I hope you see I am actually in the camp of finding a means to actually lower prices for games...I believe it is the only way to achieve true market growth in this industry.
Though I am sure many will disagree with me...because to lower prices means to do things like Nintendo is doing now, create a less powered system that focuses on easy development instead of high end graphics and effects.
We will see what happens.
Personally, I want PS3 to fail. I am not convinced on Blue-Ray Disc for movies, and I don't want the market to support such an expensive hardware system...I don't want a precident set, because I couldn't afford gaming then.
I am fine with Microsoft owning the US market and Nintendo the Japanese markets. I believe both bring very different strengths in attracting different type of game development...while Sony doesn't really offer anything different, but very strong name recognition in the market.
Post by: Requiem on July 05, 2006, 06:46:15 PM
The only way to achieve true market growth is to drop the price of admission to mass-market affordability. Nintendo is on the right track with creating a less-powered, but sufficient machine (making Wii very cheap), easing developement costs (thus allowing more developers into the market), and providing a way for small developement teams to release their product without a publisher (online market).
All of these are huge advantages that Sony has missed out on. And if we were to look at the DS/PSP situation, it would seem like Sony is headed down the wrong path (and possibly bankruptcy).
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 05, 2006, 07:19:32 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on July 06, 2006, 06:34:46 AM
Post by: JonLeung on July 06, 2006, 09:15:48 AM
From the N64 onwards I would be buying all my own games, but I still had this notion that $60 was the standard, despite that games seemed to be getting cheaper overall. Every time I saw a $40 or $50 game, I'd be, like, "wow, what a deal!" Yeah, I've said that to a lot of games lately (or rather, more than lately) which is what has killed that notion. And now that the Canadian dollar is sitting much closer to the US dollar, I guess I should be outraged even if it's reverting to what I remember console games to be.
Except for the fact that I don't think I'd be buying any PS3 games.
So, rather, I would be outraged if I cared.
Man, Sony's just killing themselves here if they think the gaming audience will pay as much as they ask.
Post by: Mikintosh on July 07, 2006, 10:01:51 AM
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Originally posted by: MaryJane
I'm not sure a high priced game will hurt a system if it is worth it.
If Nintendo were to make an MMORPG with all of their characters, I wouldn't hesistate to slap down $100 for the game and $15 a month to play. I might complain about it, but I'd still buy it.
If Sony can make games that people feel are worth paying $60 or $70 dollars for, and still release the "generic" ones for $50 or $55 they may not have a problem. I may or may not buy a ps3, but that's going to depend on how well the system does. The only reason I bought a ps2 was for the RPG's I couldn't get on GC. If ps3 gets all the RPG's again, I'm going to buy one, and pay $70 to play an RPG also. I think everyone has a genre of games they'd pay more for. Or perhaps even things within the game. There's a lot of talk about how HD isn't very popular yet, and all that, but you know what? HD graphics will sell to people. They'll think oh sweet high def graphics, it's better than everything else, and not realize that to their standard t.v HD graphics don't mean a thing. These people are the sheep, and as you can see from the ps2 sony has good prarie dogs. A lot of casual gamers only buy a game a month or less so spending an extra 10 or 20 dollars for them wouldn't matter much I think. The initial cost that's a much bigger issue i think. But from speaking to people who plan on buying one, they seem to think the price is justified with how powerful the system is. A lot of money for a lot of power. It's unfortunate but that's how people seem to be looking at it. Only for computers and cars I'd say that formula holds true for, and not even in all cases.
Yes, but no offense, just because you would slap down that much money doesn't mean a mass audience would. At all. I love Nintendo, but I'd never pay more than $60 for a game of theirs or anyone elses', even with hi-def graphics I can't take advantage of. I think only Final Fantasy XIII would be worth $70 to anybody, but even that's pushing it.
But anyway, just because people followed the PS2 doesn't mean anything for the PS3; if the PS3 cost $300 or less and the games were going to be $50 at most, we wouldn't be having this discussion. As people said, there will be some early adopters, but that doesn't mean 1st place for Sony this generation.
Post by: MaryJane on July 07, 2006, 02:41:59 PM
Then again so could I.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but the reason I said what I did was because I did some "research" I was kind of recently at a party where everybody, and i mean EVERYBODY was playing ps2 taking turns obviously, even though we did have the four person connector, there were at least 25 people there. So then people started talking about the ps3, some had no idea about it, other were the online geeks who post in forums and watch anime...
So anyway, I just happened to sneak in two questions. 1. are you really willing to pay $600 for something just cuz it can play games in HD? and i got a simultaneous yes from all the geeks, with other saying things like, that's really expensive, but i'd still get it, cuz though graphics must be incredible. obviously some people said no, but that was like 5 people.
Then after much beratting and humiliating laughter and jokes, because my friend yells out, dont listen him he owns a gamecube, I said, o.k are you going to pay $70 for each game. The answer to that question was in my previous post, most people said they hardly ever buy 12 games a year, (obviously paraphrasing, this was the kind of party that I would intend) and that a $20 hike wouldn't mean too much to them, of course the geeks just gave their loud yes again. (damn forum based fanboys).
Anyway, all that was to say I didn't just pull my thoughts out of my a$$, there was a reason behind it, at the time I was just too lazy to give the full story, and in about 15 minutes I will be too lazy again
Post by: Kairon on July 07, 2006, 10:10:57 PM
PS3 games could simply be $59.99 at launch just like the XBox 360s were/are. That hasn't hurt the 360 too much, and heck, I'm sure the game prices would go down after awhile. The N64's did, after all.
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2006, 10:17:09 PM
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Post by: Ceric on July 08, 2006, 08:09:32 AM
I really doubt the HD switch is really coming soon. About a year or two back all the Commercials where in HD preparing. Now there all back into SD because everyone realizes it ain't coming. In the bigger TV's they stopped selling SDTV's but they haven't fully switched to every TV being sold beind HD yet. Only then will we start the uphill climb to HD supremece. Then it will still take like 20 years for market saturation. This is all too incremental. It's not like going from B&W to Color. Everyone could tell the change on that one. But time will tell. There are clear Physical and quality benefits of going from VHS to DVD still some people haven't switched. That should tell you something.
