I'm not sure what it's for. It could be for the Wiimote, but why not have that button on the sensor bar or Wiimote itself?
It could be to synchronize the memory card or something. What do you guys think?
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ceric on June 29, 2006, 10:48:24 AM
The bar is tiny. Those are nice pics. There are words where that weird slot with the orange is if only I could make them out. You know I sort of like to see a Wii off it's stand.
Title: RE:New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Donutt007 on June 29, 2006, 10:53:23 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Ceric The bar is tiny. Those are nice pics. There are words where that weird slot with the orange is if only I could make them out. You know I sort of like to see a Wii off it's stand.
I believe that's where the sensor bar plugs into, considering there's no other place for it
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Pale on June 29, 2006, 10:56:57 AM
The other interesting pic is the one of the controller with the back off. Wiimote! Your circuitry is showing!
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ceric on June 29, 2006, 11:01:41 AM
Oh the shame. Also they later do calculations based off of the picture and figure that the wiimote is approximately 14.5 cm long. To put that in perspective thats about the same length as the DS or a common scientific calculator.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ian Sane on June 29, 2006, 11:40:40 AM
The classic controller seems to have a good length cord on it. So attaching it to the remote isn't quite so stupid sounding as it was before. The first pics made it look like the remote would be dangling from the controller.
I'm not too keen on using batteries for a controller. Yeah the Wavebird does that but if it dies and I have no batteries on hand I can just grab one of my wired controllers. Here wired controllers aren't even an option. These things should be rechargable. It's idiotic to use batteries.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: getter77 on June 29, 2006, 11:48:18 AM
Ian is right....a wired option or at least rechargable features should be standard. I don't look forward to burning through countless batteries for no good reason.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 29, 2006, 12:01:10 PM
I'll speak from the other side of the fence:
I say it's idiotic to cease my planned 30-hour Zelda marathon just cuz I have to wait for the controller to recharge.
I have a digital camera that runs on AA's, plus a graphing calculator, and numerous other remotes. I keep backup rechargeables in addition to the rechargeable batteries already in the device. Put the dry batts in the charger, pop in the freshly charged batts.
I WAS DISAPPOINTED TO CUT FF:CC SESSIONS SHORT WHEN MY ROOMMATE HAD A RECHARGEABLE SP; I WAS USING HIS OLD GBA, WHICH RAN ON -- GET THIS -- MY RECHARGEABLE AA'S THAT I COULD SIMPLY SWAP.
I CURSE YOUR WARIO WARE SESSIONS WHEN YOU HAVE TO DO SQUATS AND REALIZE THE GAME'S NOT READING YOUR MOVEMENTS CUZ YOUR RECHARGEABLE WIIMOTE LOSES ITS JUICE.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ceric on June 29, 2006, 12:12:04 PM
Maybe we should all just get together and order a bunch of Rechargers and batteries. Bulk Discount.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 29, 2006, 12:12:06 PM
Quote I say it's idiotic to cease my planned 30-hour Zelda marathon just cuz I have to wait for the controller to recharge.
What would be wrong with an option to let you keep playing while charging? It was just plain screwy for the GBA-GCN cable to prevent recharging. If it weren't for that, you could simply plug in the recharging cable without even turning the system off first, which I routinely do during long play sessions. That would slow you down even less than swapping out batteries.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 29, 2006, 12:19:21 PM
Let me clarify:
I say it's idiotic to cease my planned 30-hour TWILIGHT PRINCESS/WII [substitute w/ Metroid Prime 3 if need be] marathon just cuz I have to wait for the controller to recharge.
It'd been even MORE idiotic to play while the Remote is tethered to an electrical outlet.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 29, 2006, 12:24:24 PM
Quote It'd been even MORE idiotic to play while the Remote is tethered to an electrical outlet.
Why?
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 29, 2006, 12:48:20 PM
Electrical hazards from waving a device that's hooked up to an electrical socket, plus limitations on seating arrangements, the closest available electrical outlet might be at some aweful angle or location away from the tv screen, limitations on range of movement (HEY, the Remote is wireless, let it stay wireless), and while people complain about being able to provide batteries to power a wireless device, I'll complain about providing an electrical extension cord.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ian Sane on June 29, 2006, 12:52:09 PM
"I say it's idiotic to cease my planned 30-hour Zelda marathon just cuz I have to wait for the controller to recharge."
I say it's idiotic to play a videogame for 30 hours straight.
What's idiotic is that it's inconsistent with other Nintendo products. I don't own rechargable batteries. You know why? Because my DS doesn't need them and neither would a GBA SP if I had one. So now suddenly I have to buy batteries for a Nintendo product? What a load of crap. If Nintendo was still using batteries for everything then it wouldn't bother me as much but I assumed that after the GBA SP that everything by Nintendo would be rechargable.
Rechargable doesn't require anyone to buy anything extra and the only con is that if you play while recharging you're tethered. But that's still better than not playing at all because you don't have any batteries on hand. Plus I figure Nintendo would offer cords long enough to not make things unplayable. Afterall they somehow have to set demo units up in stores where people can't just run off with a wireless controller.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ian Sane on June 29, 2006, 12:58:30 PM
I just thought of a solution that satisfies Pro 666 and everyone else: a removable battery pack. You can either recharge the thing while playing by plugging in a cord or you can disconnect it and put in a new one that is already charged (ie: you bought a spare or you're using one from another controller). No batteries and you don't have to be tethered if you don't want to.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 29, 2006, 01:08:53 PM
I approve of this removable rechargeable battery idea.
However, Nintendo is never that nice and takes them a half-decade to adopt DUR COMMON SENSE TECHNOLOGIES.
Edited for reconciliation.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ian Sane on June 29, 2006, 01:12:40 PM
"Get used to buying single-use batteries every 3 weeks, or get some rechargeables."
Or I could not buy a Wii altogether. See how easy that works? No one needs to put up with Nintendo jerking them around and the Cube's weak ass sales is proof of that.
"And geez, considering the design of the Remote, imagine the docking attachment that could potentially block the Nunchaku port during your tethered gaming session!"
Well yeah. But considering the design of the remote requires batteries the idea wouldn't work without some redesign anyway.
Edit: Hey you edited your post while I was typing! Now my response makes no sense. D'oh!
Title: RE:New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 29, 2006, 01:17:15 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Professional 666 Electrical hazards from waving a device that's hooked up to an electrical socket
Unless you're playing in the bathroom, which would be stupid regardless, the worst that could happen is yanking the plug from the outlet or remote, resulting in damage such as exposed wires, but that can be solved with a simple safety release that many home appliances and Xbox controllers already use.
Quote plus limitations on seating arrangements, the closest available electrical outlet might be at some aweful angle or location away from the tv screen
It's highly probable that there's going to be an outlet very close by in most households. The limiting factor would be the length of the recharging cable in any case, not its mere existence. However, what I think would be more convenient would be a cable from the system to the controller for recharging, which would by necessity of design be a convenient length for gameplay in all but the weirdest of room layouts.
Quote limitations on range of movement (HEY, the Remote is wireless, let it stay wireless)
I think the same rebuttals to the argument against the wire between the remote and the analog stick attachment apply here. It just needs to be long enough not to impede your movements, which shouldn't be wild enough to yank cords out of wall sockets anyway.
Quote and while people complain about being able to provide batteries to power a wireless device, I'll complain about providing an electrical extension cord.
Fair enough, I'd never dare to try to stop your Evil Clown antics.
Title: RE:New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Requiem on June 29, 2006, 02:03:58 PM
Why not use a dock that is seperate from the console, that uses wires to connect the Wiimotes?
For instance:
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ceric on June 29, 2006, 03:14:38 PM
Ian's plan is sound and I'm sure Pelican or Madcatz or any number of accessory manafacturer are already redesigning there GBA battery packs to accomodate.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Kairon on June 29, 2006, 03:33:04 PM
Just fyi, the Wiimote can be wired just like the X360 wireless controller can be wired...
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ceric on June 29, 2006, 04:33:07 PM
It can hook up to a PC? j/k Through the USB or GCN ports?
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Requiem on June 29, 2006, 11:02:39 PM
That reminds me...
The Wii can still plug into a monitor right?
Title: RE:New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: IceCold on June 29, 2006, 11:15:49 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane I just thought of a solution that satisfies Pro 666 and everyone else: a removable battery pack. You can either recharge the thing while playing by plugging in a cord or you can disconnect it and put in a new one that is already charged (ie: you bought a spare or you're using one from another controller). No batteries and you don't have to be tethered if you don't want to.
I've always wanted this for the controller - like the ones for my two way radios..
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: BigJim on June 30, 2006, 07:47:16 AM
Oh jeez, the battery debate again. Just get some damn batteries and a charger package. $15 at Walmart. Keep the other two charged and swap as needed.
Nintendo's corporate cronies may be in bed with the battery conglomerate, but hopefully we'll be able to pick up the pieces and move on with our shattered lives after this latest shafting from "the man". There must be support groups for people like us.
Ooh-blah-dee, ooh-blay-dah. Life goes on.
Title: RE:New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ceric on June 30, 2006, 07:56:28 AM
PGC Should pioneer the "Battery Shafted" Support Group.
Title: RE:New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 30, 2006, 01:46:06 PM
I remember from somewhere that a Nintendo engineer said the expansion port won't allow electricity to flow through the recharge pack due to some technical issues. So yeah just buy a charger and some AA's and hey you will also get to use those AA's for other products as well.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: MysticGohan on June 30, 2006, 01:47:51 PM
Wii's so damn sexy! I can't wait to own it
Title: RE:New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 30, 2006, 04:35:18 PM
Deleted Ian rant that everyone already rosted him on.
Title: RE:New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: 31 Flavas on June 30, 2006, 04:56:32 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Ceric Ian's plan is sound and I'm sure Pelican or Madcatz or any number of accessory manafacturer are already redesigning there GBA battery packs to accomodate.
Honestly, though... why use a propritary recharable pack. When you can just use standard AA rechargables.
I mean, once again, when your "rechargeable pack" dies. You'll have to stop playing to charge it. Or buy two of them and keep one charged. But then why can't you, or Ian, for for that matter, just do the same with standard AA recharables?
Buy some standard AA recharables and keep a couple AA recharable batteries charged as backup. It's lots cheaper and you can use the batteries for all your other devices as well. Those AA batteries are not just Wii AA batteries like those "Recharable Pack" batteries for your Wiimote would be. And besides, when newer higher capacity AA recharables come out you don't have to wait for Nintendo to release the extentend life battery or for MadCatz to update their "recharable pack" with it. You just go to Jewl or Costco or where ever and pickup a pack of the new 4million mAh AA batteries and presto. More game time for your Wiimote.
So, I don't get why Ian is having one of his hate-gaisms over this. It just honestly makes such much better sense an internal battery. But what ever, go have your little hate-on ian.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: Ceric on July 01, 2006, 08:33:14 AM
The thing is with how battery technology has progressed and a how there would be a slight increase in useable size of the battery. Those 3rd party packs will probably be able to give you longer play time. Maybe even significantly longer then just using standard rechargeables. All those accessory makers are clever for a living so I'm sure they'll think of something else if that's not enough.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 01, 2006, 09:43:45 AM
If the 3rd party packs do have longer battery life, well, I hope it makes Ian happy. Of course, it won't, because he'd have to buy them. But then Ian is just always looking for something to complain about with Nintendo. If it isn't one thing, it's another.
I'll be happy because I can use my existing AA rechargeables in the Wiimote and swap them out for fresh ones when they die.
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: blackfootsteps on July 02, 2006, 11:21:18 PM
I think the Xbox 360 method is the best concerning controller power.
Options galore: 1)AA batteries 2)rechargable AA's 3)proprietary rechargeable battery pack - recharge through USB ports while playing 4)You can buy spare rechargable packs (they go for A$9) for #3, this helps if you don't want to be tethered to the console 5)A docking station for recharging multiple packs
Less restrictions and not overly expensive. Wow MS did something right
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: ThePerm on July 03, 2006, 08:15:29 AM
oh my god the name of this thread..... :P
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 03, 2006, 09:11:16 AM
Oh comon, get oveer already you baby. :P
Title: RE: New Pics of Wii from private showing
Post by: IceCold on July 03, 2006, 12:47:46 PM