Post by: Gaijinchuugoku on March 02, 2003, 08:58:19 AM
Shigeru Miyamoto: I don't know if I can say this. Tell you what, Wario World is being developed by Nintendo in conjunction with a second party that we've worked with in the past.
I originally thought that Treasure was developing Wario World, but Shiggy's reluctance to tell us leads me to believe otherwise. One other possibility is that Treasure was secretly bought out, but Shiggy stated that it was a second party they've worked with in the past.
Post by: Andy on March 02, 2003, 09:38:33 AM
Post by: rpglover on March 02, 2003, 09:53:12 AM
miyamoto did say that it was a second party they worked with before
even though we do not know if treasure is a second party, i dont think it would be a bad pick up
treasure has made tons of great games (sin and punishment, ikaruga, radient silvergun, gunstar heros)
and they have collaborated with nintendo in the past (sin and punishment)
hopefully they really did get them
i would love to see another great shooter in the vein of gunstar heros made again
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 02, 2003, 10:46:24 AM
Post by: FFantasyFX on March 02, 2003, 11:13:30 AM
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i think that the comment definitely proves that Treasure is now working exclusively with Nintendo...which is a REALLY good thing
Nope, really don't think so. Treasure is collaborating with Konami on Gradius V for the Playstation 2. I extremely doubt that a Nintendo 2nd party would be working on Playstation 2 title, unless Konami and Treasure came to a deal before Nintendo bought Treasure out. And given the fact that Gradius V was only announced a week or two ago, I really doubt that.
For more discussion on this and more, check out the Talkback thread on Miyamoto D.I.C.E Roundtable Highlights: Talkback Link
Post by: dafunkk12 on March 02, 2003, 11:26:06 AM
Post by: Gaijinchuugoku on March 02, 2003, 11:39:54 AM
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Treasure is making Wario World. I think that Miyamoto has a different meaning for second party. I think that he meant working close with Treasure. Sin & Punishment was developed by Nintendo R&D1 & Treasure.
From that other thread. That person manipulated the word and took it out of context. By his definition, Sega, Namco, Capcom, ect. could be developing it.
Post by: Nintega on March 02, 2003, 02:10:25 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on March 02, 2003, 02:13:24 PM
Post by: Sean on March 02, 2003, 06:05:29 PM
Treasure is developing it, and the fact that Treasure and Nintendo worked together on Sin and Punishment fits perfectly well with Miyamoto-san's statement. I'm almost positive that sites who have questioned this have even checked with Treasure on it to get confirmation, but I don't have the evidence.
I thought this question had died out finally. No rumor like this would go on since last fall without the REAL second party standing up and saying, "HEY! PEOPLE! Cut it out for god's sake! Treasure isn't making it--WE ARE!"
At least that's my impression of the whole thing.
Also, I can't understand fully why what Miyamoto said would lead you to believe that Treasure WASN'T developing it, since he certainly doesn't say anything of the sort. I think perhaps he's putting emphasis on the fact that NINTENDO is running the show on this game and that most likely Treasure is trying to be honorable as always and not take all the credit for it. Treasure does that from time to time. Who the heck knows, but I'm pretty darn sure that we haven't been wrong for all these many months.
Post by: Gonandorf on March 02, 2003, 06:55:07 PM
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Don't know if anyone's mentioned this on the many WarioWorld threads I never bothered to read, but the grab 'n throw gameplay mechanics really remind me of Mischief Makers on N64, which Treasure dev'd.
I couldn't agree more,Dafunkk.That is indeed a valid point.I am really excited over the game myself-regardless of how graphically it winds up to be-not to say it doesn't look good enough.But the Treasure touch in any game is not to be missed.
Then again-i just thought about it now-Treasure aren't known for repeating their formulas-regardless of success or lack of it.They don't even make sequals.
I am still hoping this game is indeed developled by Treasure.
Post by: ThePerm on March 02, 2003, 07:02:52 PM
Post by: Mr Bloober on March 02, 2003, 08:03:21 PM
Post by: FFantasyFX on March 03, 2003, 02:14:02 AM
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How MANY TIMES CAN THIS BE ASKED????????????????????
Treasure is developing it, and the fact that Treasure and Nintendo worked together on Sin and Punishment fits perfectly well with Miyamoto-san's statement. I'm almost positive that sites who have questioned this have even checked with Treasure on it to get confirmation, but I don't have the evidence.
Sean: It's not quite as clear cut as you make it out to be. IGN, one site that has identified Treasure as the developer in the past, recently listed the following information for Wario World in a feature article:
Wario World
Developer: Unknown (Treasure?)
Publisher: Nintendo
Release Date: May 26, 2003
Exclusive: Yes
Obviously, IGN isn't sure who the developer is. I'll agree with you that it absolutely makes the most sense that Treasure is indeed the co-developer of the game, but I want to know why nobody is willing to just come out and verify that fact. I really don't see the purpose to all the cloak and daggers involved in this situation, at least not yet.
Post by: Mingesium on March 03, 2003, 06:06:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Gaijinchuugoku From that other thread. That person manipulated the word and took it out of context. By his definition, Sega, Namco, Capcom, ect. could be developing it.
What I meant was it was also being co-developed by Nintendo and a "second party". There are a couple of games that has been co-developed.
Sin & Punishment: Successors to the Earth - Nintendo R&D1 / Treasure Co. Ltd
Card Hero - Nintendo R&D1 / Intelligent Systems Co. Ltd
Super Metroid - Nintendo R&D1 / Intelligent Systems Co. Ltd
Battle Clash - Nintendo R&D1 / Intelligent Systems Co. Ltd
Napoleon - Nintendo EAD / Genki
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle Series - Nintendo EAD / Flagship / Capcom
Note: I don't know if Nintendo R&D2 and IRD worked with another party on their games.
Intelligent Systems is a first party now. That leaves Treasure, Genki, and Flagship. It seems to make sense that Treasure is the developer since the Genki and Flagship games were for handhelds and the Treasure game was for consoles. Also, Flagship is doing the original GBA Zelda game.
Post by: kennyb27 on March 03, 2003, 10:18:24 AM
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I think we all know that Rare is actually making it. That whole Microsoft thing was a big joke.
LOL! That is definitely the best explanation that I have heard in a while.
Post by: "Sky" on April 22, 2003, 07:00:44 PM
. If only they would bring over Sin and Punishment...
Post by: AGENTDICKLAURENT on April 22, 2003, 08:13:22 PM
Post by: Mario on April 22, 2003, 08:21:19 PM
Post by: Nintendo on April 22, 2003, 10:02:32 PM
And with second party Miyamoto meant "A" 2nd party, as in the first being Nintendo themselves.
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Who developed Wario Land 1, 2, 3 and 4? I thought it was Treasure? So it make sense that they are developing Wario World doesnt it.
And you call yourself Mario? Pffffft.
Super Mario Land 1, 2, 3 and the Wario Land games were by Nintendo inhouse.
Post by: PIAC on April 22, 2003, 10:18:45 PM
shake shake!
i love mischeif makers
wish i didn't get rid of it =\, ohwell, wario ware get! (eventually)
Post by: Mario on April 23, 2003, 12:15:33 AM
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And you call yourself Mario? Pffffft.
Yes. MARIO. Not WARIO. Wario is teh devil!
