Post by: Pryopizm on June 01, 2006, 03:46:19 AM
Uncle Bob, one of the Citizens who pioneered the new laws, understood the the gravity of his sacrifice.
"Very well," he said. He stood and was escorted out of the meeting room with two security guards. The fatal shot was fired in the antechamber and each of the voters felt the implications. Uncle Bob was picked simply at random, but tonight the plan would truly enter into effect.
The young man remembered this as he lay in his bed trying to fall asleep. He'd been resorting to medicinal help. The old farmer had provided him tea, alcohol, pain killers. Whatever it took to allow the man a restful night. Still, the prospect of falling asleep was simply too frightening. As vivid now as his memories were, the young mens nightmares were a terrifying manifestation that he simply could not escape.
He had few good memories of the time. But there was the one day everyone had a moment of reprieve. It was the day that Garnee, aka KURT was found dead. He'd apparently been testing a new motion sensing weapons technology that he'd reverse engineered from the Confederation plant when one of the Confederation operatives snuck behind him and slit his throat.
There was always the hope, that they could kill each other off. . .
May the votes begin
Post by: Dasmos on June 01, 2006, 03:49:49 AM
Post by: Mario on June 01, 2006, 05:11:04 AM
I want to vote Stabby cause he looks suspicious, and he started the Unclebob bandwagon without a care in the world, but I think that every game and he always turns out innocent. :P
Post by: ShyGuy on June 01, 2006, 06:12:03 AM
Post by: Crimm on June 01, 2006, 09:08:48 AM
Post by: vudu on June 01, 2006, 09:30:25 AM
QuoteRemember, Stabby does suspicious things every game--thus far it's always just been that he doesn't care. (Anyone remember the first game where he used to walk around the thread with a shotgun?) Also, I better take this opportunity to stress that I'm not defending Stabby--I have no idea if he's mafia or not. So don't think we're in cahoots.
Originally posted by: Mario
I want to vote Stabby cause he looks suspicious, and he started the Unclebob bandwagon without a care in the world, but I think that every game and he always turns out innocent. :P
QuoteFor the first couple of days it pretty much is random. (This is why I typically don't vote for the first couple days.) You don't have much to go by, so you're left reading too far into people's posts and guessing at random.
Originally posted by: [CrAsH]SlAyA
well, if anyone could tell me how to vote better on day 1 please let me know, but from what i can tell its all random.
After a couple days have passed, it gets easier to spot who's mafia. If you notice patterns of people voting the same way then either (a) they're townies who had a MSN conversation and decided there who they thought was mafia or (b) they're mafia and are trying to vote out a townie (or a member of the other mafia). It's even easier once a member of one of the mobs is dead. Unfortunately for us, Garnee died before he voted, so his death isn't really helpful to us in finding out who else is siding with him. However, if he had voted a couple times before he died, you could look back and see who voted with him. It's not a perfect system, but it will generally at least give you a vague idea of who has a better chance of being mafia than someone else.
Depending on how much time you're willing to put into the game, you might benefit from going through old mafia threads and comparing how people post from one game to the next. If in Mafia II someone was a townie and posted a lot and in Mafia III they were mafia and didn't post very much, it could give you insight to their role this game based on their current posting habits. Obviously, this method isn't fool-proof because it could just be that the person was busy with outside activities during the second game or just wasn't as interested that time around.
When in doubt, take cues from the more experienced players (BlackNMild, Dasmos, IceCold, KnowsNothing, MysticGohan, Pale, ShyGuy, Stabby, SUPER, TVMan, TYP), keeping in mind that at least some of them are going to be mafia.
EDIT: Hey Pryo, question: If the Emissary investigates a mafia leader, does he come up as a regular townie like in previous games or does he appear as mafia?
Post by: ShyGuy on June 01, 2006, 09:40:03 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2006, 09:41:41 AM
QuoteDon't forget that Stabby was mafia in the first game.
Originally posted by: vuduQuoteRemember, Stabby does suspicious things every game--thus far it's always just been that he doesn't care. (Anyone remember the first game where he used to walk around the thread with a shotgun?)Also, I better take this opportunity to stress that I'm not defending Stabby--I have no idea if he's mafia or not. So don't think we're in cahoots.
Originally posted by: Mario
I want to vote Stabby cause he looks suspicious, and he started the Unclebob bandwagon without a care in the world, but I think that every game and he always turns out innocent. :P
and as far as taking cues from everyone on that list,
QuoteI know everyone on that list has an MSN account except for TVman & IceCold. You can check profiles and see who has their contact info available though.
When in doubt, take cues from the more experienced players (BlackNMild, Dasmos, IceCold, KnowsNothing, MysticGohan, Pale, ShyGuy, Stabby, SUPER, TVMan, TYP)
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
When will Stevey unleash his Vendetta! ?
Oh no, why did you have to bring that up again? Your death was part of the game, no one was "out to get you", get over it
Post by: vudu on June 01, 2006, 09:44:33 AM
Nevermind; Stabby's probably Mafia. But I'm sure as heck not going to start this bandwagon.
Post by: nickmitch on June 01, 2006, 09:47:05 AM
But anyway, something will come up eventually, this thing is gonna get blown wiide open.
Also, I've learned from experience that neither Vudu nor BnM can be trusted.
Post by: vudu on June 01, 2006, 10:06:23 AM
But then again, isn't that the point of this game? Anyone who's mafia is clearly going to lie about it and do everything they can to get the townies to vote themselves off. So it's not like you pinpoint any of this crap on me. I'm sure you'd lie if you were mafia. Wait, are you mafia? Are you lying right now?
Post by: Pale on June 01, 2006, 10:10:04 AM
I trusted vudu when I was a godfather and didn't trust BnM.... Biggest mistake EVAR!
Post by: vudu on June 01, 2006, 10:25:24 AM
Post by: vudu on June 01, 2006, 10:36:37 AM
QuoteI just remembered about the Defenders of the Keep--any three people who are voting together could also possibly be part of the Defendors of the Keep (Emissary & Deputy, also), so this system doesn't even really work very well in this game--just because certain people always vote together doesn't mean they're mafia. This is going to be harder than I had originally thought.
Originally posted by: vudu
After a couple days have passed, it gets easier to spot who's mafia. If you notice patterns of people voting the same way then either (a) they're townies who had a MSN conversation and decided there who they thought was mafia or (b) they're mafia and are trying to vote out a townie (or a member of the other mafia).
Post by: 18 Days on June 01, 2006, 10:44:55 AM
Vote Stabby.
Post by: Crimm on June 01, 2006, 12:03:15 PM
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Originally posted by: 18 Days
Stuff it. No time for analysis. SirStabbalot claimed to not be mafia in the first thread, therefore, he's mafia.
Vote Stabby.
Your logic is unassailable.
Post by: Zach on June 01, 2006, 12:14:10 PM
Post by: Pale on June 01, 2006, 12:17:11 PM
Vote Dasmos for commenting on how "good" the hit was yesterday.
Post by: ShyGuy on June 01, 2006, 12:26:50 PM
Post by: Pale on June 01, 2006, 12:52:25 PM
One of the two, either way, let's kill him.
Post by: ShyGuy on June 01, 2006, 01:00:38 PM
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One of the two, either way, let's kill him.
I will see what he has to say in his defense, then maybe kill him.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on June 01, 2006, 01:27:24 PM
And now for my defence:
I'm innocent!!1!
Really, there's nothing else for me to say.
Post by: ShyGuy on June 01, 2006, 01:46:47 PM
edit: Thanks BnM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2006, 02:01:29 PM
Quotefixed
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
VENDETTA Bring it.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on June 01, 2006, 02:37:01 PM
Come one, people! I'm always over-agressive. You should know that by now.
EDIT: Stevey has a good point. VOTE SHYGUY.
Post by: stevey on June 01, 2006, 04:04:41 PM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on June 01, 2006, 04:53:34 PM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on June 01, 2006, 04:56:08 PM
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
Voting for Stevey, because he looks shaky. SHAKY.
Hey, be glad he's not the kind of person who makes essay-sized posts!
Post by: Dasmos on June 01, 2006, 05:36:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Pale
Hah, my point was that he seems to be obviously saying it's good, meaning he is probably trying to distance himself from the Sony mafia, meaning he probably actually is sony mafia. Either that or he's trying to make it sound like he didn't expect it, thus meaning he knew it was coming...
One of the two, either way, let's kill him.
It was a good hit, as far as I know it was pure lucjk. Garnee hadn't even posted in the mafia thread and he was picked off, I'm assuming, at random.
VOTE PALE
Post by: KnowsNothing on June 01, 2006, 05:38:20 PM
Post by: nickmitch on June 01, 2006, 05:42:46 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2006, 05:56:22 PM
Post by: nickmitch on June 01, 2006, 06:04:32 PM
Post by: Mario on June 01, 2006, 06:05:51 PM
ViewtifulGamer seems to be protecting ShyGuy, by kicking off another bandwagon on Stevey after ShyGuy had 3 votes. Voting for ViewtifulGamer would be a waste since he has no votes (which makes me question the purpose of the other people who voted for someone out of the blue, trying to avoid mafia patterns?) so i'll vote ShyGuy.
EDIT: Actually, reading ShyGuys posts he seems innocent, which would destroy that theory and clear VG as well, but I honestly have no-one better to vote for so i'll keep this for now.
Post by: vudu on June 01, 2006, 06:11:06 PM
Post by: Crimm on June 01, 2006, 06:14:25 PM
Current voting
Stabby: 1
ShyGuy: 4
Stevey: 2
PALE: 1
TYP: 1
TVMan: 1
BlackNMild: 1
Mario: 1
KN: 1
Post by: Mario on June 01, 2006, 06:18:31 PM
Looks like ShyGuy is going now, do you have anything to say in your defense before it's too late?
Post by: MysticGohan on June 01, 2006, 06:26:20 PM
I sure hope I changed the dolls batteries
VOTE: Stevey, he's the evil monkey that loves to kill the wrong person... or is it the person HE wanted..??
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on June 01, 2006, 06:39:28 PM
Post by: [CrAsH]SlAyA on June 01, 2006, 06:48:26 PM
Post by: Pryopizm on June 01, 2006, 07:04:24 PM
Post by: Zach on June 01, 2006, 07:05:22 PM
Edit: posted this right after Pryo, so I may have jumped the gun.
Post by: Pryopizm on June 01, 2006, 07:06:41 PM
Post by: Zach on June 01, 2006, 07:11:34 PM
Post by: vudu on June 01, 2006, 07:14:57 PM
(Or so I'm lead to believe--if Team Xbox doesn't form, the surviving members become regular townies, right?)
Post by: Mario on June 01, 2006, 07:15:53 PM
May I ask what reasons you guys had for voting stevey now, if any? I honestly don't know who to vote for now. I just have Vudu on my list because he voted for me.
Post by: MysticGohan on June 01, 2006, 07:52:01 PM
How's that?
Post by: IceCold on June 01, 2006, 09:11:19 PM
Excerpts from Mafia: Day 1
Crash: For lack of any knowledge what so ever
Vote Zach
Zach: grr... D@mn the lateness of my name alphabetically. Vote Crash for being uninformed and simply voting for the last person on the list.
Crash: haha zach you got me nothing personal... just easy to copy and paste the last name
(...)
well, if anyone could tell me how to vote better on day 1 please let me know, but from what i can tell its all random.
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Suspicious, eh? It is my belief that Crash feigned naivete, and is actually part of the mafia with Zach. Using the guise of an innocent first-time player, they probably decided that he should vote for Zach, saying that his reason was that Zach was the last on the list alphabetically. The intent would be to make it seem like they are not related, and also paint a picture of Crash being an innocent bystander. Note the quote "for lack of any knowledge whatsoever"..
But what really makes me believe in this is Zach's response. How on earth would you be able to guess that someone voted for you since your name was last on the alphabetical list? And he made it seem like it was a fact that Crash was uninformed, saying, "Vote Crash for being uninformed and simply voting for the last person on the list." How would he know that Crash did that, and be able to say it like it was the definitive truth? Unless Crash had explicitly stated that he voted for Zach because [Zach] was the last name on the list, I would never have inferred what Zach did. That wouldn't have even crossed my mind if I were Zach.
Crash responded by saying that Zach got him, and it was easy to copy/paste the last name. But why would you copy the last name, and not the first?
This is by no means damning evidence, but by reading between the lines you will be able to infer what I did. There are just too many plotholes, and it seems forced. So..
VOTE CRASH!
Post by: 18 Days on June 01, 2006, 11:00:36 PM
Post by: Zach on June 02, 2006, 09:15:36 AM
Now this is what happened, I saw Crash vote for me "For lack of any knowledge what so ever," and I tried to figure out why he voted for me over anyone else, and I saw two possible reasons.
1) He voted completely randomly, so it was just a coincidence (sp?)
2) The only reason I stand out over anyone else is because I am the last one on the list, so he picked me for that reason.
I assumed number 2, it was just a guess, but it was an informed guess, and I turned out to be right.
Interesting theory though, but I can assure you that there is no conspiracy here. I would imagine that if you dont believe me, you will vote for me after you vote for crash.
You IceCold seem awfully desparate to place blame without any good proof (I wonder why?) so once the day 3 thread starts, I plan to vote for you, unless you killed me during the night.
Post by: Pale on June 02, 2006, 09:19:01 AM
Post by: 18 Days on June 02, 2006, 10:13:19 AM
Post by: Zach on June 02, 2006, 10:15:21 AM
Post by: 18 Days on June 02, 2006, 11:01:58 AM
