Post by: EasyCure on May 26, 2006, 10:13:40 PM
oh and as for the movie, didnt you think that the part when im just kidding i wouldnt spoil anything for ya was so cool!?!?
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on May 27, 2006, 07:47:41 AM
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 27, 2006, 04:39:43 PM
Killing off certain characters just left holes in the rest of the film, IMO
Post by: bustin98 on May 27, 2006, 09:01:32 PM
Post by: Arbok on May 27, 2006, 09:05:52 PM
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ViewtifulGamer, that wasn't what happened. It was the same thing that happended to */ that guy /* in the house. They just didn't show it happen because of the suspense.
Or because maybe he didn't actually die, it happens off camera after all so if they want to write him into future movies it shouldn't be too hard... but yes, to make it clear, it was not from his own energy that he was supposed to meet his end.
Post by: EasyCure on May 28, 2006, 03:57:20 AM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on May 28, 2006, 06:39:01 AM
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ViewtifulGamer, that wasn't what happened. It was the same thing that happended to */ that guy /* in the house. They just didn't show it happen because of the suspense.
How could that have been it? She wasn't using telekinetic powers to blow him away like Prof. X. There was a build-up of energy in his body due to Jean Grey's blocking it, and because of that, he blew up. I'd link to the Ain't It Cool News article that has the script in it, but I can't find it at the moment.
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 28, 2006, 10:06:21 AM
it was just bleh........many plotholes and such they so ruined the phoenix character......not even the fire wings T_T
I still like the second one a lot more, I liked the first one as well, but it's a lot slower...
Post by: bustin98 on May 28, 2006, 11:07:33 AM
If you noticed when they were kissing, their was a draining like effect from Scott to Jean, looked similar to what Rogue does. What that was inferring, I'm not sure, but most certainly he did not pop due to his powers.
But since the effect on the professor was also used on soldiers and other mutants I'd say the best bet was Scott was oblitertated. The second best assumption would be Scott was sparred somehow. Though the actor won't be back unless Bryan Singer hops back on board.
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 28, 2006, 04:33:06 PM
Better than the first one but X2 is the "Empire" of the trilogy.
Did you guys stay for the "ending" after the credits?
Post by: bustin98 on May 28, 2006, 05:13:19 PM
Post by: UncleBob on May 28, 2006, 05:17:37 PM
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
I had a few problems with this movie that were pretty glaring, like Cyclops exploding from his own energy, of which is HE IS IMMUNE, HELLO!, but it was alright as an action flick, if a bit melodramatic, even for a comic book movie.
Just got back from the movie. I would like to respond to this with the fact that just because comic-Cyclops is immune to his own energy it doesn't mean that movie-Cyclops is also immune to his own energy. You can't treat the two as the same. It's like how comic-Pheniox is some kind of weird alien-clone-ish thing of Jean Grey and movie-Pheniox is Jean Grey's evil alter-ego-multiple-personality or how comic-Spider-Man builds his webshooters and has to brew his own webfluid but movie-Spider-Man has organic webshooters.
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on May 28, 2006, 06:39:02 PM
Post by: EasyCure on May 28, 2006, 07:10:16 PM
Post by: bustin98 on May 28, 2006, 08:07:58 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 29, 2006, 09:21:49 AM
Post by: Arbok on May 29, 2006, 11:10:38 AM
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I didn't see that last scene after the credits, what was it about?
You know the person who Xavier lectured on early in the movie about having working organs, yet his brain was more or less dead? The one that Moira was looking after, and then he asked what type of moral dilemma it would pose if someone with psychic powers were to exploit it?
Well at the end, the bed ridden individual turns and says "Hello Moira" in Xavier's voice...
Post by: mantidor on May 29, 2006, 05:21:45 PM
The real problem with the X-Men movies is the sheer number of characters, theres just too many so at the end you really would have prefered if they extended the movie to explore the characters more, oh and rogue and mystique losing their powers, that pissed me off, they are the best! good thing it looks like is only temporary
I suppose Im starting to dislike superman returns now, without it and the pressure to get x-men before it the director would'nt had left the project and the movie would have more time invested, I feel so many plotlines incomplete or undeveloped.
And I knew about the bonus at the end of the credits but the idiots at my theater cut them before they finished.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 29, 2006, 06:48:25 PM
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Post by: Athrun Zala on May 29, 2006, 08:04:14 PM
Quoteohhh....I see, so basically, he threw all the ethics through the window.......interesting nevertheless....
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
I didn't see that last scene after the credits, what was it about?
You know the person who Xavier lectured on early in the movie about having working organs, yet his brain was more or less dead? The one that Moira was looking after, and then he asked what type of moral dilemma it would pose if someone with psychic powers were to exploit it?
Well at the end, the bed ridden individual turns and says "Hello Moira" in Xavier's voice...
and with this and the vague hints that the cure is only temporary, it's pretty obvious they set it up for a possible sequel just in case.......maybe Scott returns too? XD (they killed/got rid of the powers of way too many important characters....)
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 30, 2006, 06:19:27 AM
Post by: UncleBob on May 30, 2006, 06:33:47 AM
Remember, after the second Planet of the Apes movie, everyone involved said there wasn't going to be another movie - in fact, the movie was written in such a way that there absolutly could *not* be another movie.
Except for the three direct follow-ups, the television show, the cartoon and the remake, that is.
It's all about how much money the studio thinks they can make...
Post by: mantidor on May 30, 2006, 09:08:24 AM
Post by: EasyCure on May 30, 2006, 09:27:01 AM
"Don't you know who i am? im the juggernaut b!tch!"
Post by: Arbok on May 30, 2006, 10:55:16 AM
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No X-men 4 but Magneto and Logan get there own movie. Confirmed!!
They already signed on actors for a 4th and 5th. They stated they would make more if this one was succesful, and seeing as hot it has enjoyed the 4th largest opening ever there is no way Fox is going to pass up making more.
Post by: Bloodworth on June 01, 2006, 09:48:41 PM
Post by: wandering on June 01, 2006, 09:57:44 PM
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but it was alright as an action flick, if a bit melodramatic, even for a comic book movie.
Agreed. About the melodramatic part, I mean.
I hope they make more, this one would make for a pretty lousy finale.
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basically, he threw all the ethics through the window......
Oh? I don't think Xavier ever said he thought doing such a thing would be immoral...
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2006, 10:39:46 PM
A whole lot of whiat if's:What if professor Xavier isn't actually dead but is just using his intense psychic powers to channel himself through the comatose patient und Dr. Moira's care.
What if everyone that was semmingly obliterated was actually transfered or teleported to an alternate plane of existence that is somehow still connected to ours. That would cause a loop-hole allowing them to not only return civilains to their families, but bring back Cyclops and Prof. X.
Now I just got back from the movie and I can honestly say that it was alot better than I was expecting. Some nice action and intense scenes, but a lot of missed opportunity to really highlight some of the other mutants that played a role, such as Multiple Man & Collosus for example. The scene with Wolverine vs Phoenix at the end was very nice, but I think we all know Phoenix must rise from her grave and walk this earth again under the control of Jean Grey. X4 WILL happen, its just a matter of when, not if.
Anybody know the whole story between Singer leaving for Superman and (actor that played)Cyclops leaving too?
Post by: Athrun Zala on June 02, 2006, 07:12:38 AM
Quotehe didn't say it (rembember that he was interrupted before he could answer the question), but he did imply it if I recall correctly....
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basically, he threw all the ethics through the window......
Oh? I don't think Xavier ever said he thought doing such a thing would be immoral...
in any case, the discussion of that action can be really long (maybe that's why they left it out of the movie XD).....
Post by: bustin98 on June 03, 2006, 06:48:52 PM
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Anybody know the whole story between Singer leaving for Superman and (actor that played)Cyclops leaving too?
The original Superman movie was the reason Bryan Singer got in the movie business. I do not have a link to that info, though I'm sure I read about it on IGN. So Bryan turned down X-Men 3 for Superman for obvious reasons. James Marsden just has a tremendous amount of respect for Bryan and was offered a job on Superman.
Post by: wandering on June 04, 2006, 08:42:08 PM
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he didn't say it (rembember that he was interrupted before he could answer the question), but he did imply it if I recall correctly....
I thought his position would be that it would be wrong, and an abuse of power, and all that, before he was interrupted...but , the ending made me change my mind. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would go against his own morals.
I suppose it's what you'd expect from the elite amoral hollywood liberal media empire. It's okay to kill people who are in a brain dead coma! Homosexuality isn't really a disease! And to think this film is marketed towards children.
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on June 04, 2006, 10:35:10 PM
Meanwhile, Jean, whose SUPPOSED to be the star of this show, does basically nothing except get angry once in a while. The movie's explanation of what the Phoenix force is is inconsistent with itself and rings hollow, and was CLEARLY dumbed down for the general populace. The movie score and production design were generic at best. Character development is basically nil. Don't get me started with the inconsistency of the character deaths with the end of the movie - which send conflicting messages and leave us without closure. The only strong suit in the movie is probably Wolverine, and the previews (for Superman Returns...let's see what he'll do with that one.)
Post by: mantidor on June 05, 2006, 04:44:55 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on June 05, 2006, 07:28:02 AM
BTW, from what I understand, Nightcrawler tells Prof X. he doesn't want to stay with the team because he is a pacifist, so he leaves.
Post by: mantidor on June 05, 2006, 12:44:18 PM
Post by: wandering on June 05, 2006, 08:16:20 PM
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Homosexuality isnt a disease :|
That was sarcasm.
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Aw man, weren't not going to start this again are we?
We need a TY's Serioushouse to discuss pressing issues!
...no, seriously, that part wasn't sarcastic.
Post by: ShyGuy on June 05, 2006, 08:59:27 PM
What I don't get is if Nightcrawler is a pacifist, why is he beating people up in the game?
Post by: EasyCure on June 09, 2006, 06:28:23 PM
anywho, i saw the movie a second time becuase...well..the Omen was sold out. i sat thru the credits this time to see that extra scene but i noticed something (in the credits). pyslocke(sp?) was in the movie...who the hell was she!??!
Post by: Bloodworth on June 10, 2006, 09:53:29 AM
Post by: mantidor on June 10, 2006, 08:46:40 PM
Im not a follower of the comics, but I kind of suspect thats not what pyslocke does.
Post by: EasyCure on June 13, 2006, 06:36:28 AM
edit- i didnt follow the comics like a diehard fan or anything, but i read them on occasion and was really into the x-men at one point when i was younger, loved the cartoon adn all that, but its been awhile. i had to look up a lil bio on her just to make sure they screwed her royally, and yeah...they did.
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