Post by: thejeek on May 24, 2006, 10:33:57 PM
Apparently halogen lights are not common in houses (although I have one in my office - it's an Ikea uplight) but shops use them a lot. Looks like the IR they give off can cause aiming problems with the wiimote. I don't know if this will be a real problem but it seems like both an unfortunate oversight by the designers at Nintendo and also confirmation that the Wiimote indeed sees IR given off by the sensor bar for positioning.
[EDIT:] Article also suggests an October launch - which would be great if it turned out to be true - I think we were all expecting November?
Post by: wandering on May 24, 2006, 10:41:52 PM
I hate to bring up the virtual boy example again, but, yeah. Look at the virtual boy. Nintendo thought people's excitememnt over the 3-d, virtual reality technology would overshadow the product's obvious limitations. That didn't happen. Now we're hearing about how the wiimote has a limited range... and can fail to work properly if someone walks in between the signal, or if you have incorrect lighting, or if you point the controller outside of it's limited range, etc.
Also, october launch? Excuse me while I go make another thread.
Post by: thejeek on May 24, 2006, 10:46:16 PM
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Not a huge fan of halogen personally, so this won't affect me. Though all of these wiimote problems are starting to bother me.
Exactly - it won't bother me and it won't bother a whole load of people but it contributes to a general impression that the performance of the wiimote is a bit fragile - not a good thing. The sooner we can all get a hands on the sooner these fears can be alleviated (assuming the thing really does work in practice). Roll on in-store demos!
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 24, 2006, 10:49:38 PM
Also a lot of those so called problems could be attributed to the fact that the systems we've seen up to this point are not final production level hardware and likely to be less stable than the final units.
Post by: thejeek on May 24, 2006, 10:52:11 PM
Post by: wandering on May 24, 2006, 10:57:15 PM
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I'm more worried about the rumours damaging the Wii's reputation before it's even launched
mm- I think all people will care about is their own persoanl experience with the console. A huge amount of negative reports tend to surround most new apple products, for example.
Post by: thejeek on May 24, 2006, 11:05:14 PM
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 24, 2006, 11:36:37 PM
Post by: thejeek on May 24, 2006, 11:50:39 PM
Still the quicker they get demo units accessible to the general public, the quicker people can make up there own minds - people need to try it first hand *before* they make their mind up - human nature guarantees that people won't change their minds if they form a bad impression of the thing before they get to try it :-(
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 12:03:53 AM
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 12:09:31 AM
Post by: ruby_onix on May 25, 2006, 01:30:25 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on May 25, 2006, 05:44:55 AM
I don't like it, but I can live with little things like this, I think. A bigger complaint for me is that it may only come in white. I don't like white, and it doesn't match my old consoles...of course, neither does that yummy green, and I'd buy it in a second! I just don't like white. Wonder if I can spray-paint it?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 05:48:43 AM
Post by: thejeek on May 25, 2006, 06:39:54 AM
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Wonder if I can spray-paint it?
I've spray painted a CD player before to no ill effect. I didn't even bother to mask off the buttons or tray or anything and it still worked fine. Don't sue me if it stuffs up your Wii though!
Post by: Svevan on May 25, 2006, 06:57:08 AM
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 07:21:20 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 25, 2006, 08:47:13 AM
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 25, 2006, 08:58:26 AM
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Every other Nintendo console merely required electricity and a TV
Well yes because they used tech that had been done over and over in such situations, what they are doing is very new for gaming situations.
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It's not encouraging when reps are making excuses about certain lights and the player's position relative to the sensor bar.
No, actually its good that they are aware of these issues now, it means they are working on getting these issues fixed so final machines won't have these issues.
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That's was a big problem with the Virtual Boy. That console required the player to accept certain limitations and follow certain "rules" in order to get the ideal amount of enjoyment out of it.
The Virtual Boy was a Nintendo experiment, not a primary system, I've yet to buy a Nintendo system that was buggy and full of problems, Nintendo isn't the type of company to send out products that don't work.
At the moment I doubt this is a big deal, since our exposure has been to early machines running under non-ideal situations.
Post by: Svevan on May 25, 2006, 02:25:44 PM
Post by: Jensen on May 25, 2006, 05:32:20 PM
You have to be at a certain range. You won't be able to use the Wii in the back seat of a car.
Other IR sources may interfere. (I'm assuming Halogen lights put out more IR than other lights)
You need line of sight.
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 25, 2006, 05:56:02 PM
In other news, fixing it would be best. HOW BOUT THAT NINTENDO
Post by: slacker on May 25, 2006, 07:44:53 PM
Post by: Jensen on May 25, 2006, 08:48:14 PM
Because the Wiimote uses an optical tracking system, it is limited in different ways than wireless data transmission is.
Post by: King of Twitch on May 25, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: wandering on May 30, 2006, 10:44:06 PM
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The Wii isn't going to sell like Nintendo wants it to if people have to meet certain geography and lighting requirements for the thing to work correctly.
Well, that didn't stop the Game Boy...
Post by: Plugabugz on May 30, 2006, 11:10:28 PM
Last week me and a friend ran a small stress test by game sharing on PSP, sending data wirelessly to my phone via bluetooth and downloading to my PC wirelessly and all three ran slower than usual. All three were within 1m of each other so thats probably why, but it still potentially can cause effects elsewhere at a bigger distance.
I'm not sure if it will cause a problem for Wii, and i doubt it given it's working at a distance, but being in a crowded wifi zone might affect it a little. Lucky for us the nearest wifi zone aside from here is a phone box, but then there are places like Canary Wharf (and soon the City) which is completely blanket covered with wifi (and subsequently is completely covered in nintendo wifi stickers).
Post by: thejeek on May 30, 2006, 11:12:40 PM
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Well, that didn't stop the Game Boy...
Well, I was a bit pissed off that having queued up to collect my pre-order in the middle of the night, I couldn't play mine in the dark, and then the next day I found I couldn't play it in direct sunlight either... I found that the place with perfect lighting turned out to be the tube (the subway) - I ended up taking lots of unnecessary trips just to play on it. The DS was a godsend - my pile of neglected GBA carts suddenly got a second outing!
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Post by: BlkPaladin on May 31, 2006, 01:40:23 AM
Post by: thejeek on May 31, 2006, 01:59:28 AM
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Most will play with their Wiis at home
Yes - doing that in public can get you locked up :-)
Post by: Renny on June 01, 2006, 02:44:08 PM
Post by: Aussiedude on August 16, 2006, 01:51:35 AM
Once the light was turned off the remote worked again. Turning on the same lamps in the lounge room (5 of them) which were concealed in the ceiling had no effect and the remote worked perfectly.
So to put it simply if you can use your standard IR TV remote with no problems you should not have a problem with the Wii. Placing the Wii remote sensor under the TV instead of on top will probably also work better as it will be less "in line of sight" with any light source.
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Post by: Zel768 on May 06, 2009, 10:35:21 PM
Rich people have recessed "can" lights in their dens/living rooms. Rich people will be mad at you, Nintendo.
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Rich people have recessed "can" lights in their dens/living rooms. Rich people will be mad at you, Nintendo.
I am a rich person but I am mad at Nintendo But I do i agree with him.,
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