Post by: Shecky on May 08, 2006, 06:26:23 PM
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$500 USD
20GB HDD
0 HDMI port
NO Memory Stick, SD, or Compact Flash reading capability
NO WiFi support
Package 2
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$600 USD
60GB HDD
1 HDMI port
Memory Stick reading capability (this is SONY, it's only going to be one)
WiFi support
I'll try to edit this post as more details surface.
Post by: vudu on May 08, 2006, 06:29:54 PM
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Looking at the official press site of SCEA, we noticed that the PS3 with the 20 gigabyte hard drive seemed to lack HDMI support. This seems to be confirmed by an offical press release from SCEA, which indicates via comparison between the two systems. However, it also indicates that the 20 gigabyte system won't have Memory Stick, SD or Compact Flash reading capability or WiFi support.
QuoteI've never heard the expression tard pack in my life. It's genius.
When Microsoft launched the Xbox 360, consumers hated the Core system that didn't come with a hard drive and other features, quickly dubbing it the "tard pack."
Post by: Arbok on May 08, 2006, 07:10:36 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
I've never heard the expression tard pack in my life. It's genius.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/11/23
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 08, 2006, 07:24:20 PM
Post by: Shecky on May 09, 2006, 03:32:38 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on May 09, 2006, 05:05:08 AM
Post by: Nephilim on May 09, 2006, 05:26:32 AM
just not 1080
which is sad, since 360 can do it out of the box
Post by: Renny on May 09, 2006, 06:26:58 AM
Post by: Requiem on May 09, 2006, 07:34:41 AM
Well done, Sony, well done.
Post by: couchmonkey on May 09, 2006, 12:45:55 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 09, 2006, 01:36:09 PM
Stupid, just plain stupid.
Go for the cheaper avenue to save, and you are screwed for life with that system.
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 09, 2006, 02:56:45 PM
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Originally posted by: Renny
Blu-Ray is suppsoded to require HDMI. So if you want to see Blu-Ray in its full-res glory, you need the Non-Tard Pack.
actually, Sony was pushing studios not to apply the ICT (Image Constrain Token, that is, to not be able to get full-res from component cables) for a while they said they wouldn't apply it for a long time.
at the time I found that odd, now I can see why..........
Post by: Renny on May 09, 2006, 04:47:26 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 09, 2006, 06:06:20 PM
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So they reversed their decision on that? Maybe that was in response to HD-DVD loosening its restraints?
most likely
also, it wouldn't be nice to spend $1000+ on a BD Player only to find out that you can't get full HD (barely ED) because your TV doesn't have the lastest Hollywood-approved full of DRM HDMI input.......
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2006, 08:36:16 PM
PS3 communicates wirelessly with PSP for connectivity right.
And Sony has a game that takes advantage of that feature, some F1 racing game that uses the PSP as a rear view mirror(which would have made sense if the PSP also acted as the controller), and does so wirelessly.
PSP can only communicate wirelessy through wifi right?
So why does the PS3 Premium support Wifi and the PS3 Tard pack not?
If they plan on using connectivity in any sort of usefull way, wouldn't you want to include wifi in all models?
Post by: IceCold on May 09, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: nickmitch on May 10, 2006, 05:49:15 PM
It's only logical.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2006, 06:51:50 PM
Post by: IceCold on May 10, 2006, 11:17:30 PM
"It's probably too cheap."
Post by: Shecky on May 13, 2006, 06:56:26 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 13, 2006, 07:17:33 PM
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Originally posted by: Shecky
So... another question. Is Sony offering an "upgrade path" to those that buy the cheaper system? I can't really see how, which is just devestating IMO.
ummm.....selling it and buying the premium one?
or they could just wait until the lens breaks.......
Post by: King of Twitch on May 15, 2006, 10:27:10 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 15, 2006, 11:01:33 AM
Post by: Arbok on May 15, 2006, 08:09:54 PM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
If you thought the Xbox 360 had problems with just a DVD drive, then image what you'll have with the Blu-Ray drive!
Well yeah, but how many people are actually going to buy Blu-Ray? I mean, this could be something where someone buys a Blu-Ray disc 6 months after getting the system for the first time... only to find that their $600 system might have a broken competent in doing that correctly. So some, if there are problems, might find out that fact way too late unlike with something more commonly used like a DVD drive, where errors can be spotted and one can return the unit with the receipt in a short amount of time.
Although, if Blu-Ray is going to end up like this generation's Laserdisc, which I imagine it might, then the owner of the PS3 might not even care a great deal that the feature doesn't work...
Post by: KDR_11k on May 16, 2006, 01:22:17 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 16, 2006, 04:36:50 AM
Post by: capamerica on May 16, 2006, 01:27:50 PM
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According to Games Radar a few more features will be missing on the PS3 if you decided to pass on the $600 model and go with the "cheaper" core model. We have already been told by Sony that if people buy the $500 PS3 Core unit they will lose out on features like Wi-Fi, HDMI, and memory card support. But according to Games Radar there are 2 more features that will also be missing that could very well turn people off on the $500 model. Wireless controller support and an upgradable hard-drive are also on that list of features that will NOT be supported in the $500 PS3.
While the Xbox 360 Core system doesn't ship with wireless controllers, it does support them; however, Games Radar writes that "wireless Bluetooth controllers won't be supported" in the lower-priced PS3.
Similarly, whereas the Xbox 360 Core system didn't ships with a hard-drive, it is possible to add one and match the functionality of the more expensive offering. Games Radar writes that a "Sony representative on the show floor at E3 also emphasized that gamers won't be able to upgrade the memory of the 20GB version."
It seems that Sony is once again screwing over their loyal Playstation fanbase.
This news has left this fan wondering Is Final Fantasy XIII and Meta Gear Solid 4 really worth the $600 price tag?
Post by: Shecky on May 16, 2006, 03:02:14 PM
GI Link
Looks like some of the features will be upgradeable by means of USB adapters... mainly wireless (WiFi) and the card readers. HDMI output is not upgradable. HDD can be swapped for a larger disk... after all, it is just "a computer, after all."
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 16, 2006, 04:41:33 PM
Post by: capamerica on May 16, 2006, 07:12:33 PM
Anyone one who is thinking of getting a PS3 should really hold off until it is released just incase Sony pulls a fast one and the Core system isn't upgradeable like they say.
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 17, 2006, 05:28:27 PM
Post by: Grant10k on May 18, 2006, 06:19:24 AM
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Iread somewhere (can't remember right now) that the HDD is NOT upgradeable
I read somewhere that the hard drive is upgradable to anything you want
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...it is a computer, after all.
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 18, 2006, 06:18:34 PM
nevertheless, is odd to see Sony going back and forth with these things, maybe we wont know what's upgradeable and what's not until launch day
Post by: Grant10k on May 18, 2006, 06:54:34 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 19, 2006, 04:31:39 AM
Post by: vudu on May 19, 2006, 09:19:47 AM
Post by: Shecky on May 19, 2006, 05:52:09 PM
(Seriously, their PC's do read multiple formats, but it sure took them a while to come to that. The laptops only do mem sticks, IIRC.)
