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Title: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Fro on May 07, 2006, 10:34:59 AM
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1191861-1,00.html

Now up on Time's site!
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Arbok on May 07, 2006, 10:42:05 AM
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In one hot minute, I use the controller to swat a fly, do squat-thrusts as a weight lifter, turn a key in a lock, catch a fish, drive a car, sauté some vegetables, balance a broom on my outstretched hand, color in a circle and fence with a foil.


That sounds good, and I was a little worried that they would have entire games dedicated to stuff like this, but I'm glad to see it showcased in the quick and non-reptitive format of Wario Ware as I think it will work well in small dosages.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 07, 2006, 10:46:19 AM
I dont like the TP sword movement being controlled as an actual sword. The last thing I want is that the TGS trailer video, the one everyone claimed as being exagerated, to become the way we have to actually play the game. At least this is just an option, but what about the real Zelda for the rev? Im worried.


The rest is good stuff, fishing, Wario Ware, etc.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: The Omen on May 07, 2006, 10:56:41 AM
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dont like the TP sword movement being controlled as an actual sword. The last thing I want is that the TGS trailer video, the one everyone claimed as being exagerated, to become the way we have to actually play the game. At least this is just an option, but what about the real Zelda for the rev? Im worried.


I would think there's some type of sensitivity bar to adjust to your personal preferences.  Maybe on a lower setting, a flick of the wirst swings the sword, and on a higher setting, it actually requires the full swing.

Everything sounds great though.  I wonder if it's a normal tennis game, or Mario?
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 07, 2006, 11:01:57 AM
Slight movements for sword slashing is even lamer than exaggerated movements, that wouldnt feel like a sword fight, its even more difficult to grasp. And what about the spin attack? does Nintendo really plan to make us spin like idiots in the room, and at the same time miss the action on screen?

Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 11:03:35 AM
Fear the future Mantidor. Fear it. It is coming, rushing, headlong at us and we can't stop it. And it holds only doom and disappointment.

Fear the future.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 07, 2006, 11:07:38 AM
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At the end, I don't so much put the controller down as have it pried from my hands.
I think that is the best line in the whole article.

"No, SIR!!! You have to give it back, the demonstration is over now!!!"

Its good to know that once I pick it up and start to play, I'm not gonna want to put the controller down.
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The third game, and probably the most fun, is also the simplest: tennis. The controller becomes a racket, and I'm smacking forehands and stroking backhands. The sensors are fine enough that you can scoop under the ball to lob it, or slice it for spin.
The fact that the controller is so sensitive that I can actually perfect the game of tennis w/o ever having to go outside and actually play tennis is very, very interesting. I can already imagine the simulators that are gonna spring up for every type of thing.

*Real Bass Fishing*
*Real Tennis Pro*
*Real Nascar Racing*
*Real Boxing Championship*
*etc. etc. etc.*
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: SixthAngel on May 07, 2006, 11:09:10 AM
So seems a tennis game is coming our way early, great.

I would imagine the sword fighting in Zelda would still be the slow paced fighting (wait for an opening then strike) but instead of pushing A you swing down and then you can't attack again until Link has recovered.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 11:14:19 AM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
Slight movements for sword slashing is even lamer than exaggerated movements, that wouldnt feel like a sword fight, its even more difficult to grasp. And what about the spin attack? does Nintendo really plan to make us spin like idiots in the room, and at the same time miss the action on screen?



there's no brightside to this for you is there?

without thinking of "proper" way for a spin attack to be executed without actually spinning your body around, how about you just toss the controll in the air and make it spin like a pizza? that way you dont have to get off your ass AND you dont have to miss the action on screen. no wait thats too lame, and so is feeling immersed in the game. relax dude, relax.


relaje
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: The Omen on May 07, 2006, 11:18:08 AM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
Slight movements for sword slashing is even lamer than exaggerated movements, that wouldnt feel like a sword fight, its even more difficult to grasp.


I agree, but you obviously didn't like the full swing option either.  I was trying to make it easier on you.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Guitar Smasher on May 07, 2006, 11:18:42 AM
Wario Ware sounds like the perfect training game to get people familiar with the controller.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 11:21:47 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
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At the end, I don't so much put the controller down as have it pried from my hands.
I think that is the best line in the whole article.

"No, SIR!!! You have to give it back, the demonstration is over now!!!"



haha that was my impression when i read the article. imagine if one day we all start carrying our wiimotes in holsters like wild gunmen or something. a glorious day indeed my friends, a glorious day indeed....


(nintendo rep)"No, SIR!!! You have to give it back, the demonstration is over now!!!"
(time guy) "I DONT WANNA!!"
(nintendo rep) "Sir give it back or we will have to force it out of you"
(time guy) "LEAVE ME ALONE I WANNA PLAY MORE WARIO!!!"
(nintendo rep) "*sigh* okay sire you asked for it" *electroshocks him with a second wiimote*

taser attachment for wiimote available at launch ;-)
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 11:22:18 AM
HOLY SH!T!
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: denjet78 on May 07, 2006, 11:44:08 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Fear the future Mantidor. Fear it. It is coming, rushing, headlong at us and we can't stop it. And it holds only doom and disappointment.

Fear the future.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


Where have you BEEN all my life???

I really do feel like I'm falling for you... *sigh*

And Nintendo proves once again that people don't know what they want until they give it to you. I didn't even know that I wanted this until they revealed it. The most I was hoping for was some kind of gyroscopic control, and I'm more than a little surprised that neither Sony nor MS decided to make even that leap.

This is still just a technological stop-gap though. I still want my holodeck damnit! Or at least the matrix. That would probably be far easier to pull off.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 11:48:28 AM
You know that Kairon's a dude, right.....right?!   *sigh*

Here is a link to the entire article. It makes Nintendo look VERY GOOD. It's also one of the best articles I've read in a while (about Nintendo or Wii).

THIS IS THE LINK TO THE FULL ARTICLE...THOSE THAT CAN"T SEE THIS FAIL AT LIFE!  
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 11:52:31 AM
lol

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 07, 2006, 11:53:54 AM
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Originally posted by: The Omen
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Originally posted by: mantidor
Slight movements for sword slashing is even lamer than exaggerated movements, that wouldnt feel like a sword fight, its even more difficult to grasp.


I agree, but you obviously didn't like the full swing option either.  I was trying to make it easier on you.


What I dont get is why everything has to be tied to the remote 3D functions, why cant they keep it down linked to a button?, pushing blocks will be great with the remote, and fishing, and even bow and arrows if its pulled right, and the obvious hookshot, but not the sword fights.

Everything done regarding the sword fights in the Zelda series have been nothing but improvements from Ocarina to the Wind Waker, doing this seems a step back, the fantastic fights of the wind waker are impossible if the remote is used that way. Unless they just replaced the A button for remote swinging, which would be terrible, the remote would look like just a g!mmick instead of being properly used.

 
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 11:57:33 AM
Are you saying that Nintendo will intentionally turn their near-perfect Zelda gameplay into a gimmmick? I think you're projecting negativity and pessimism into a possibility that exists only in your mind for now and will remain a non-entity until the distant future.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

P.S. ARGH WORD CHANGER!!!
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 11:59:50 AM
"the fantastic fights of the wind waker are impossible if the remote is used that way"

Pfffffft...........Sure they were fun, but fantastic? Yeah right....

How can you be so sure that sword fights won't be fun with the NRC? You've never even played it. You, sir, are prejudice.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Ceric on May 07, 2006, 12:00:36 PM
*Looks fo Ian*

Alright then I'll do it.  This is to much what we want to hear.  All of those ideas have been batted around here before.  Its just to much of a good thing.  Even though this is suppose to be legit.  I'm skeptical  until I see the actual article.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 12:05:11 PM
Ceric....


Did you even bother to click the link in my post above?

It has the entire article. And if you scoll down far enough, you'll see that it even has the captions to the pictures in the article.


Is it legit?


Hell yes
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 12:08:28 PM
is this time magazine out in news stands yet? i have to pick it up
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 07, 2006, 12:08:31 PM
Reading the captions, it seems that there's a screenshot of Tennis in there.  I want scans now >=o
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Post by: Edfishy on May 07, 2006, 12:09:00 PM
Hm.  One thing about sword fights with Zelda:  It'll most likely take place in a 3rd person view.  I can see this as a very interesting and fun way to play, since it'll be like watching yourself perform the moves.  I'm also convinced your direct moves will not necessarily perform the actions.  I.e. You'll make a gesture for a certain type of move.  The advantage with using the Wiimote for sword actions over button-smashing is that you'll be able to stop in the middle of a move and alter your attack gesture.

In either case, great article, awesome news.  God I'm glad Nintendo has created the Wiimotes.  I dont think I'd be interested in buying consoles this generation otherwise.
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Post by: Caliban on May 07, 2006, 12:11:01 PM
K-I-C-K_A-S-S-! The closer E3 gets the more giddy I get,
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 12:12:29 PM
feeling like a little girl in pig-tails eh caliban?
i know the feeling.....what? don't look at me that way....
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 07, 2006, 12:13:25 PM
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 07, 2006, 12:15:48 PM
OH GOD! so know Wind Waker's battles aren't awesome? are you insane?


Theres no cryptic science into knowing how sword fights will work with the remote, how will the next Mario work may be a little mindboggling, but sword fights are pretty straight forward, you slash the remote and the character reflects the movement. Theres no chance for "cool" (a.k.a unrealistic) sword fights full of impossible moves, jumps and the like, how will the parry attack from the Wind Waker work for instance? or the spin attack? swirling the remote in the air wont do it.



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Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 12:17:44 PM
Mantidor, you should know that it is a cryptic science to know how Nintendo games will be played. That is...unless you KNEW they were going to use z-targeting before they did it... oh my god... you...you KNEW! DIDN'T YOU! YOU KNEW ALL THIS TIME!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Fro on May 07, 2006, 12:18:02 PM
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3623/timemag0az.jpg

A screencap of the Lexis Nexis page with the article, for the two doubters left.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 12:22:41 PM
I see what your saying, but just like Red Steel, Nintendo can activate a special move through a series of realistic sword gestures.

Also, I always saw the parry as....well.......childish. It was cheap and way to easy to pull off. The strategy to defeat most enemies was influenced by it to such a great effect that most fights consisted of this:

Wait for it

Wait for it

Wait for it

*enemy starts to swing*

Now!

That's pretty shallow.
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Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 12:24:56 PM
Yeah, the WW battle system gave the player such a seamless experience that it almost trivialized any such encounter.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Caliban on May 07, 2006, 12:26:13 PM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
feeling like a little girl in pig-tails eh caliban?
i know the feeling.....what? don't look at me that way....


I feel not giddy like a girl, I feel giddy like a time-bomb that is anxious to explode. I will be radiant after E3, so don't touch me I will be radioactive.
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Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 12:28:05 PM
It's funny how you started out with "yeah" as if your agreeing with me, then later on blow my post out of the water.

Whatever.......to each their own.


I would just like to say that if you don't think that it can get any better, then I pity you.
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Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 12:29:57 PM
huh? I'm confused now!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 12:31:02 PM
lol i have no plan on touching you in anyway. the only thing wii my hands want to grip is Nintendo's ;-)
im definately going to the World Store for the live e3 coverage and the closer to tuesday it gets the more i blissfully wish they had some Wii demo stations available. like as soon as the live coverage is done they could be like "by the way, look to your left (pull curtain up) tadaa go play with our Wii's!!!"

but that is only a dream
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Ceric on May 07, 2006, 12:33:00 PM
Didn't see the link at all.
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Post by: Shecky on May 07, 2006, 12:35:50 PM
I think people are over reacting to the Zelda stuff.  Problem is that a lot of folks want a remote controlled Zelda, but I think everyone forgets that TP is it's own game.  Chances are the Zelda demonstrations were demonstrations of how the remote could be used in Zelda.  I'm sure they're working on how to build those mechanics, but it's not going to be the main mechanics behind TP.
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Post by: PaLaDiN on May 07, 2006, 12:36:21 PM
I feel giddy like a can of carbonated beverage in an industrial strength paint shaker.
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Post by: Caliban on May 07, 2006, 12:37:00 PM
EasyCure, that would be so cool, even if I don't live in the USA, though it would be cool if Nintendo had a special event here in Toronto.
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Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 12:39:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Shecky
I think people are over reacting to the Zelda stuff.  Problem is that a lot of folks want a remote controlled Zelda, but I think everyone forgets that TP is it's own game.  Chances are the Zelda demonstrations were demonstrations of how the remote could be used in Zelda.  I'm sure they're working on how to build those mechanics, but it's not going to be the main mechanics behind TP.


Yeah....your most likely right, but I hope your wrong.

Nothing sells the Wii (at least to me) better than the image of Link riding into battle on his steed with his trusty sword held high into the air. If the Wii allows me to do that myself, then I am sold on the concept.
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Post by: Strell on May 07, 2006, 12:40:41 PM
What?  Still people whining?

Have you all missed my offer?  I give you 10 bucks, you don't buy a Wii, everyone is happy.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 12:40:55 PM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
I feel giddy like a can of carbonated beverage in an industrial strength paint shaker.


have you learned nothing from the simpsons?

and yes caliban it would F*CKING RULE if they did that (with demo stations) but its only a dream. if that dream will come true or not (i dont want to get my hopes up), i'll find out on tuesday. NINTENDO WILL OWN E3
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Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 12:41:04 PM
All of a sudden I have this image of a kid jumping around with a broomstick between his legs, a cowboy hat, and a toy cap gun.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: The Omen on May 07, 2006, 12:42:02 PM
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Have you all missed my offer? I give you 10 bucks, you don't buy a Wii, everyone is happy.


Send me my ten bucks tough guy.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 12:43:09 PM
sounds like requiem wants to be Mike TV
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Post by: Ceric on May 07, 2006, 12:46:34 PM
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To gamers, Miyamoto is like all four Beatles rolled into one jolly, twinkly-eyed, weak-chinned


Best quote of the whole thing.

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But the name Wii not wii-thstanding, Nintendo has grasped two important
notions that have eluded its competitors. The first is, Don't listen to
your customers.


Most slap in the face quote of the whole thing.

I'll still wait for the print stand version.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 12:49:21 PM
again, anyone know when this hits news stands?
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Post by: Strell on May 07, 2006, 12:55:49 PM
I need proof you'll never buy or play Wii, Omen.  
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Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 12:57:42 PM
Wait, you didn't mention "play" before, you can't change the rules!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: The Omen on May 07, 2006, 01:00:11 PM
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Wait, you didn't mention "play" before, you can't change the rules!


Exactly!  
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Post by: Strell on May 07, 2006, 01:04:30 PM
Well I've posted it 2-3 times, and this time, yea, I left out "or play."  But in the others I said both.

Big deal.
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Post by: Shecky on May 07, 2006, 01:08:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
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Originally posted by: Shecky
I think people are over reacting to the Zelda stuff.  Problem is that a lot of folks want a remote controlled Zelda, but I think everyone forgets that TP is it's own game.  Chances are the Zelda demonstrations were demonstrations of how the remote could be used in Zelda.  I'm sure they're working on how to build those mechanics, but it's not going to be the main mechanics behind TP.


Yeah....your most likely right, but I hope your wrong.

Nothing sells the Wii (at least to me) better than the image of Link riding into battle on his steed with his trusty sword held high into the air. If the Wii allows me to do that myself, then I am sold on the concept.


You'll get that chance, just not with TP  Besides, there will be plenty of other software to sell the Wii right?

They could actually turn this into a win-win too, and I think they know it.  All they have to do is bundle a few of those demonstrations with the game, cleverly hiding them or integrating them as minigames or what not, and they'll basically have pacified all those wanting remote control and hooked them for the next installment in the series.  They don't have to mention that the next game is even coming, you'll just know.

TP will still sell Wii's even as a Gamecube game.  Those who argue that it tarnish it b/c it'll look "last gen" are kidding themselves.
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Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 01:08:28 PM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
sounds like requiem wants to be Mike TV


I'm not familiar with that. You mind explaining?
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Post by: The Omen on May 07, 2006, 01:13:13 PM
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Well I've posted it 2-3 times, and this time, yea, I left out "or play." But in the others I said both.  Big Deal.


So maybe it's time to stop posting it, eh?  You're not going to do it, and nobody has said they're not going to buy the Wii, so what's the purpose?  Thinking you're clever?  Or to bore us?
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Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 01:13:20 PM
Mike TV of Willy Wonka fame. But he didn't have a broom/horse/pony, just the hat and cap gun.

"My dad won't let me get a real one."
"Not 'till you're twelve son!"

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 01:16:10 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that sounds g@y.

haha
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Post by: RiskyChris on May 07, 2006, 01:18:36 PM
Oh my god I'm teary eyed.  I dont' know how I'll make it this summer without a Wii.
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Post by: Arbok on May 07, 2006, 01:30:46 PM
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Originally posted by: The Omen
So maybe it's time to stop posting it, eh?  You're not going to do it, and nobody has said they're not going to buy the Wii, so what's the purpose?  Thinking you're clever?  Or to bore us?


Oh SNAP!
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Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 01:32:31 PM
thanks carmine. i just hope you, like me, preffered the original over the remake. how can they diss all the little actors out there who dreamt of one day playing an Oompa Loompa?
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Post by: Strell on May 07, 2006, 01:35:48 PM
I'm not sure why there's hostility.  I'd do it if it would shut up a detractor who has nothing but OMFG NINTENDO IS TEH DOOMED predictions left and right.  

I leave out one word and correct myself AND admit to the absence.  

The problem with me doing it - and yes, I certainly would - is that there's no way for me to track it.  

But that wouldn't stop me if it meant one less bitch on here.  
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 07, 2006, 01:40:07 PM
Hmmm...I wonder where Ian is, I would have thought he'd have replied to this thread talking about how the controller will make your arm tired or spawn mini gmaes by now
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 07, 2006, 01:52:17 PM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
I feel giddy like a can of carbonated beverage in an industrial strength paint shaker.
Fixed

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Post by: odilon on May 07, 2006, 01:56:40 PM
About the spin attack...maybe it would work by holding a button and making a horizontal movement with the controller?  Seems reasonable to me.
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Post by: Jensen on May 07, 2006, 02:03:33 PM
you could just spin the Wiimote around in a lasso spinning motion
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Post by: Arbok on May 07, 2006, 02:13:58 PM
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Originally posted by: Strell
I'm not sure why there's hostility.


Where is the hostility coming from?

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Originally posted by: Strell
The problem with me doing it - and yes, I certainly would - is that there's no way for me to track it.


As Omen mentioned, why have you brought it up time and time again then? No one really expected you to follow through or anything, I'm sure some chuckled a bit at first. However, you kept posting it, someone finally called you on it, and now you are taking a defensive approach to the whole thing.
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Post by: Strell on May 07, 2006, 02:16:53 PM
Because I mispoke and corrected it, and people are insulting about it.  That would make anyone defensive.  In fact, that's almost the entire way this whole forum here works.  Someone says something, someone calls them out, the first person says "Well what I meant was..."  

Everyone does it, so why act like I'm the first?  Seems pretty juvenile to me.

I aimed this idea at Ian a few threads ago.  Search for it if you want.    
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: trip1eX on May 07, 2006, 02:26:02 PM
Awesome.  It definitely sounds like Nintendo is going to breathe some new life into videogaming.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 02:54:40 PM
Yeah, I'm pumped.

AND I'm going to be at E3! EEEEETHREEEEEE!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: The Omen on May 07, 2006, 02:59:51 PM
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 I'm not sure why there's hostility. I'd do it if it would shut up a detractor who has nothing but OMFG NINTENDO IS TEH DOOMED predictions left and right.

I leave out one word and correct myself AND admit to the absence.

The problem with me doing it - and yes, I certainly would - is that there's no way for me to track it.

But that wouldn't stop me if it meant one less bitch on here.


Okay, well first off if you're specifically calling me a whiny bitch hater, you're incorrect. I hate the name, yes. I have given a reasonable explanation as to why I hate it.  That's where it ends for me.  Go back and read my posts and you'll see they are more coherent than your accusatory post, ten fold.  Besides the point, the person you jumped on with your moronic proposal in this thread wasn't even talking about the name, he was worried about the control for Zelda.  Are you going to follow around every person who has a legit worry and offer them this pathetic deal?

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The problem with me doing it - and yes, I certainly would - is that there's no way for me to track it.


Of course you couldn't, so why f'n bother everyone with your childish proclamations?  
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 07, 2006, 03:01:11 PM
"I dont like the TP sword movement being controlled as an actual sword."

Then play it on your GC, I can't WAIT to try this...
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 07, 2006, 03:03:54 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Yeah, I'm pumped.

AND I'm going to be at E3! EEEEETHREEEEEE!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


E3! EEEEEETHREEEEEE! EEEEEThWiiiiii! WiiiiiThWiiiii!

WiiThWii 2006
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: IceCold on May 07, 2006, 03:15:02 PM
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feeling like a little girl in pig-tails eh caliban?
I'm feeling like a little Japanese girl in pig-tails lining up for a new Dragon Quest game..
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Strell on May 07, 2006, 03:20:45 PM
Look at the original post, Omen.  Did I pick you out?

No, you wanted to act like you were big sh*t by calling me out.

At this point it doesn't matter about what people are whining about.  Name, controls, whatever.  No one has played it but so many people are genuinely against the console.  Where's the logic in that?

I figure if someone is so out to be negative against it, might as well not play it.  As long as it pollutes whatever forum I go to less, I'm for it.

Now I'm sorry I called you a whiny bitch.  Really.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Jensen on May 07, 2006, 03:38:12 PM
Can you guys please use private messages for your bickering?  I'd like to see stuff about Wario Ware, Tennis, and TP.

Wario Ware will be fun because you'll do something besides timing some simple button presses.  It probably won't even need button presses.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Caliban on May 07, 2006, 03:54:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Yeah, I'm pumped.

AND I'm going to be at E3! EEEEETHREEEEEE!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com


If you lived close to me and I knew who you were, I would smack you to unconciousness and steal your E3 pass!
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 07, 2006, 04:37:42 PM
wow...

well, Im not genuinely against the console. I express my doubts on certain issues because Nintendo isnt perfect and theres a chance they can screw things up. But in fact Ive been very supportive of the console since it was announced. The scary part is people getting inmediatly mad if I express even a little worry or negative thing about the console, hey its going to be awesome but its not going to be perfect, thats a sure thing.



Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 07, 2006, 04:43:44 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
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feeling like a little girl in pig-tails eh caliban?
I'm feeling a little Japanese girl in pig-tails.


You know that's what you meant.

I'm buying this issue of TIME.

Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: The Omen on May 07, 2006, 05:23:33 PM
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Look at the original post, Omen. Did I pick you out?

No, you wanted to act like you were big sh*t by calling me out.

At this point it doesn't matter about what people are whining about. Name, controls, whatever. No one has played it but so many people are genuinely against the console. Where's the logic in that?

I figure if someone is so out to be negative against it, might as well not play it. As long as it pollutes whatever forum I go to less, I'm for it.

Now I'm sorry I called you a whiny bitch. Really.


Nobody is against the console, and to claim otherwise is ridiculous.  Everyone who has a legit concern has stated seemingly endless times that they intend to buy the damn thing, so where's the logic in your claim?

Thanks for that last sentence.  True class.  Really

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Can you guys please use private messages for your bickering? I'd like to see stuff about Wario Ware, Tennis, and TP.

Wario Ware will be fun because you'll do something besides timing some simple button presses. It probably won't even need button presses.


Yes, we can.  Although many others would rather read the bickering than the invaluable insight you just provided.

Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 05:40:25 PM
Damn....we got an @sshole over here haha

E3 can't come soon enough....
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: IceCold on May 07, 2006, 06:04:51 PM
Seriously Omen, lay off..
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Ceric on May 07, 2006, 06:13:18 PM
I think this thread is showing just how on edge all of us really are.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Crimm on May 07, 2006, 06:21:18 PM
1 day 13 hours and 15 minutes.

Even with this Time issue, Nintendo is still remarkably good at keeping stuff under-wraps.  For example, developers know what the final feature is, so do some journalists, but we've been kept in the dark.

I don't think Wario Ware was a shock by any means.  If I recall there is a question from the "emergency" controller unveiled  mailbag that asks "so WarioWare at launch?"
The Tennis game was a no-brainer.  

Really, this will be a huge event, so let's not go crazy till after we hear it all.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 07, 2006, 06:34:15 PM
I'm choosing to forget there's a final feature.

Why wait, let's go crazy now.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: MysticGohan on May 07, 2006, 06:36:30 PM
heh, glad you see it my way
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 07, 2006, 06:37:55 PM
I think quite a few of us will go into orgasmic seizures during the conference, so I'd rather post now when I'm coherent...
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Arbok on May 07, 2006, 06:41:25 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I think quite a few of us will go into orgasmic seizures during the conference, so I'd rather post now when I'm coherent...


Too true, I'm nearly salivating at the mere thought of seeing something related to the new Smash Bros, I can't imagine myself after some details and (hopefully) screen shots are out there...
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Mario on May 07, 2006, 06:56:23 PM
Hah, Wario Ware. Told yas! As if anyone wasn't expecting it anyway.

That's 1 game i'll be getting at launch.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Crimm on May 07, 2006, 07:02:04 PM
In case people don't know, gamespot will be streaming lo-res for non-subscribers.  I fully expect an Internet explosion that Wii and the FHC were only a precursor for, or hope for one.  
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 07:07:13 PM
Matt Assismassiass.....ina put a couple E3 predictions up on his blog.

He mentions TP being demoed on the Wii.

You know what? That sounds like a damn good idea. So good in fact, that it'll probably happen. I mean, I know I have said this before, but what game could possibly show how the Wii can better existing games then Zelda. Everybody loves Zelda, and personally, Zelda is the pinnacle of the existing game formula. No other game is so seamless and as well-made as Zelda. Everybody knows that to some respect, and everbody would go hysterical if Miyamoto demoed it on stage in the Kodak theater in front of literally thousands of people.

You know..............I'd probably sh!t myself if that happened.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Mario on May 07, 2006, 07:17:18 PM
I'd probably fall asleep. Then throw my GC out the window.

It'd be pretty dull to show off these brand new controls with an old game, and at the same time it'd make the great well fleshed out game feel like a sparkling innovation. Lose-lose for everyone! I'll just wait for the REAL Zelda Wii in a year or two thanks.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 07, 2006, 07:20:29 PM
I Mario!

Demo Metroid Prime 3 instead and Ill die right there.

Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 07, 2006, 07:23:17 PM
Oops. Looks like everyone who writes for Joystiq is stupid as hell.

http://www.joystiq.com/

"Twilight Princess now Wiimote-controlled

Posted May 7th 2006 10:30PM by James Ransom-Wiley
Filed under: Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Wii, Action, Adventure
Twilight Princess

The TIME Wii tell-all has confirmed that The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess will feature Wiimote-specific functionality. TIME, trippin' off a self-confessed Errol Flynn flashback -- now that's old school! -- got a chance to use the Wii controller to sword fight, aim a bow and arrow, and reel in a "stubborn virtual fish."

While the details of the play-test where limited, the revelation suggests that Twilight Princess will play a major role in the Wii launch lineup. Twilight Princess is no longer a Wii-functional GameCube title. Uh-uh, Zelda just upgraded to next-gen status."

Speaking of putting words in people's mouths...
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: IceCold on May 07, 2006, 07:33:03 PM
I am, as I have always been, with Mario and mantidor; TP is a GameCube title, not a Rev one. I want Mario 128, or something new, to truly show what the NRC is capable of..
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Crimm on May 07, 2006, 07:34:46 PM
Oh joystiq, you've got the journalism ethics of a blog (well it is one) but somehow the creditability of an actual gaming news site.  
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 07:44:56 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
I am, as I have always been, with Mario and mantidor; TP is a GameCube title, not a Rev one. I want Mario 128, or something new, to truly show what the NRC is capable of..


Denial?

Naw, probably not.


Anyway, suit yourselves....
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 07, 2006, 07:52:16 PM
MEGATON
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: IceCold on May 07, 2006, 07:55:05 PM
No denial.. I accepted the fact that Revolution controls were probable a long time ago.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 07:57:43 PM
I was referring to TP....

You still seem reluctant in accepting the fact that TP is a GC/REV hybrid.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: IceCold on May 07, 2006, 08:27:28 PM
I was referring to that too - I probably should have said "I accepted the fact that Revolution controls were probable for TP a long time ago."

From all that discussion we had earlier on about this, I look forward to Nintendo implementing Revolution controls in a Zelda game. I just didn't want it to be for TP - I wanted a new Zelda game built with the Revolution exclusively in mind. I should add, too, that some of the controls you devised for a Wii Zelda game were great, as I think I've mentioned before. That's why I'm so excited about what Nintendo can do with a whole new Zelda game, and I'm eagerly awaiting it whenever it's released.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 08:34:14 PM
I'm an idiot...

My mistake...

And for the record, I completely agree with you. Nintendo's next effort will be truly amazing, and it's a shame that they are focusing so much unneeded attention on TP.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Jensen on May 07, 2006, 08:39:18 PM
The Wii controller doesn't seem to fit well with Mario.  Mario never really throws or shoots anything... he doesn't use his hands to manipulate anything.  Unless there is a major gimmick like the water pack, I don't see mush use for the motion sensing capabilities of Wii (I'm not saying that a gimmick is a bad thing)...
Zelda is a much better fit.    
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 07, 2006, 08:41:15 PM
Zelda TP = Wii's Trojan Horse
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: wandering on May 07, 2006, 08:46:36 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
Theres no chance for "cool" (a.k.a unrealistic) sword fights full of impossible moves, jumps and the like, how will the parry attack from the Wind Waker work for instance? or the spin attack? swirling the remote in the air wont do it.

There was nothing "cool" about Wind Waker's sword fights.  ...well, okay, they were a little cool, but picture the fight between Inigo Montoya and the Man in Black from the Princess Bride. Now, replace their moves with the moves from a fight in Wind Waker. Pretty boring, no?

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Originally posted by: Requiem

You still seem reluctant in accepting the fact that TP is a GC/REV hybrid.

You still seem reluctant in accepting the fact that the system is no longer called Revolution...

ANYWAY. I was about to comment on how mainstream Wii must be, to get an article in Time....then I remembered the 360 got a cover story. Oh well.

What's been described sounds really, really good...especialy Wario Ware.

...Still don't quite understand how sports games will work though. You have to put your whole body into a tennis swing, how do you do that on a Wii? I guess you'll just mime toned-down versions of the actions, like you're talking about tennis at dinner, or something. But then, where and how does your on-screen character break from your own movements?
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 09:05:34 PM
"You still seem reluctant in accepting the fact that the system is no longer called Revolution..."

Looks like we got another @sshole in our midst.....

Wii, Revolution, Nintendo....they're all the same thing.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Jensen on May 07, 2006, 09:07:41 PM
The controller will be much lighter than a racket and it won't be hit by a ball moving at 60MPH, so making the same motions as in real tennis will take much less force.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: wandering on May 07, 2006, 09:27:45 PM
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Looks like we got another @sshole in our midst.....

Dark Helmet: Who made that man a gunner?
Major Asshole: I did sir. He's my cousin.
Dark Helmet: Who is he?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole sir.
Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
Colonel Sandurz: That is his name sir. Asshole, Major Asshole!
Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole too sir. Gunner's mate First Class Philip Asshole!
Dark Helmet: How many asholes do we have on this ship, anyway?
[Entire bridge crew stands up and raises a hand]
Entire Bridge Crew: Yo!
Dark Helmet: I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes!

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The controller will be much lighter than a racket and it won't be hit by a ball moving at 60MPH, so making the same motions as in real tennis will take much less force.

Hmm. Good point.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 02:11:07 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Zelda TP = Wii's Trojan Horse


For whom? Certainly not the non-gamer, and the Zelda die hard fans are going to get the console anyway, so theres no need to do this, there never was, but Nintendo is still cramming these controls in a game that shouldnt have them.

Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: EasyCure on May 08, 2006, 04:01:36 AM
requiem can we get your title changed to Bitches?
with that new avatar i read all your post in Riley's voice now, and it amuses me. thank you
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 05:17:38 AM
Hahaha,

I just tried that out. That is pretty funny...


P.S. How do you change the subtitle under your avatar?
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: couchmonkey on May 08, 2006, 06:57:03 AM
I agree that Nintendo should show something else as it's "big" Wii demo.  I think a game designed for Wii right from the start (see Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros., Red Steel, or the Tennis game) would probably make for a much more exciting demo.  I hope they get some players who can really make fools out of themselves for the demos.  I'm looking forward to trying out Twighlight Princess on Wii, but I'm not sure it can live up to a Zelda game built for Wii from the ground-up.

These game announcements really have me anticipating the rest now!  I can't wait to see all the games Nintendo has planned!
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: jasonditz on May 08, 2006, 07:29:31 AM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Zelda TP = Wii's Trojan Horse


For whom? Certainly not the non-gamer, and the Zelda die hard fans are going to get the console anyway, so theres no need to do this, there never was, but Nintendo is still cramming these controls in a game that shouldnt have them.


Well... the Zelda die hard fan would get the console eventually, but not necessarily at launch. He'd likely wait until a Zelda game was actually released for the Wii, which might've been a couple years into the console's life. Having more early adopters is a big part of getting third parties on board, and the really die hard Zelda fan might feel the need to get a Wii just so he can "Replay TP" with the new controller.

It's a risk though. It's possible some of the very interested people who don't own a Cube yet might not buy TP at launch and just wait for the Wii to come out. And by then it's possible TP will have a price drop.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 08, 2006, 07:32:52 AM
Mantidor, perhaps I missed your explanation, but why don't you just use the GC controls?
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: couchmonkey on May 08, 2006, 08:10:43 AM
I think Mantidor is just mad that they "wasted" time on the new controls.

About Jasonditz's comment on a Zelda price drop: I don't think Zelda will be released that far in advance of the Wii, and Nintendo usually gives games a good year (at least) on the market before dropping the price.  I don't think there will be much opportunity lost there.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 08, 2006, 08:13:21 AM
There's no reason to gripe about anything until you've played the game.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 08, 2006, 08:22:42 AM
Why do you think that Parry moves and the spin attack can't exist with the new controller.

I think you could easily set those to motion controls.  The Spin Attack could require you to hold the sword back behind you for 2-3 seconds and then move it towards the screen.

Bingo.  

Parries could be done by now actually reflecting attacks with the sword and not the shield...once you do that you can thrust in to attack...

Or still have the A button be for context sensitive moves, and perhaps you can get in close connect a hit and push A to string it into a combo.

Simple.

Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 09:04:09 AM
Holy crap!

You just made me think of something Spak.

Since the Nunchuck attachment can sense movement, could you in fact control link's shield as well as his sword at the same time?
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: attackslug on May 08, 2006, 09:12:37 AM
I'd think it would be more likely that you could use the accelerometers in the analogue attachment to do the strafe-jumps/dodges and backflips.  But parrying attacks with the shield jerking the analogue attachment in a particular direction would work as well, come to think of it... I just don't think that we'll see full-fledged or smooth control over the shield, as the accelerometers most likely won't allow such control.  
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Post by: jasonditz on May 08, 2006, 09:23:34 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey


About Jasonditz's comment on a Zelda price drop: I don't think Zelda will be released that far in advance of the Wii, and Nintendo usually gives games a good year (at least) on the market before dropping the price.  I don't think there will be much opportunity lost there.


Maybe, but if the Wii titles look head-and-shoulders superior to the Gamecube titles, and we've already heard that Wii titles will be retailing for $50... it might be a harder sell to charge full price for a "last-gen" title.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 08, 2006, 09:31:35 AM
It's ok.  The Wii is a repackaged FlopCube -- it's nonpowered to display nongames with nongraffiks.  TP has nothing to worry about.
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Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 09:32:54 AM
I don't think a price-drop is as likely as a coupon or some special deal to buy TP that comes with the Wii.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 08, 2006, 09:55:09 AM
Time Magazine article is up now
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 09:57:20 AM
Man, I wish it had some pictures....









Cuz I can't read....*sobs*
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 10:06:04 AM
Man, even Time magazine is poking fun at the name.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: ShyGuy on May 08, 2006, 10:27:38 AM
Infendo has scans. Tennis either looks very stylized or very beta.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on May 08, 2006, 10:31:47 AM
From the article:
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It has now been rechristened the Nintendo Wii, an unreadable, unintelligible (that daunting double-i!) syllable. (For the record, it's pronounced "we," and the i's are supposed to represent the new controller ... never mind.)
The most interesting part about what he says about the name (and I don't want to start that fight over again, I'm just pointing this out because it's interesting) is the "never mind" there at the end.  He points out that it's supposed to sound like "we" and that the 'i's are controllers, but then stops as if to say, "I'm pretty sure you, my readers, don't actually care about this, and I don't think it's worth my time to explain it."
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 10:31:50 AM
Tennis looks pretty cool.  It's unique, original and isn't an existing franchise.  And at the same time it's got personality and doesn't just look like a tennis sim.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 10:32:13 AM
Holy sh!t!

Tennis looks halarious!

Also, did you guys check out the TP scan? It looks......gorgeous. If it had to stand against next-gen software, I think it can. Also, do you see how he's aiming? It's exactly as I invisioned it. Over-the-shoulder > FPV.

Here's a link for the lazy bums out there:

Click or Don't....I don't care

I just noticed another thing


The TP scan looks to control exactly as I had invisioned as well. Look at the controls on the top right. You press the D-pad to equip and fire the item. The "B" is strickly sword, while "A" stays the context sensitive button. That leaves the Z buttons a bit of a mystery, but I know ones for the shield and maybe the other is Z-targeting.

Camera is controlled by NRC?
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 10:33:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Man, even Time magazine is poking fun at the name.


The best part is the "we dont listen to our consumers to surprise them".




Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: BigJim on May 08, 2006, 10:39:57 AM
Edit: Yeah, TP looks much different. What's goin' on? Is this a "beefed up" Wii version?
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 10:50:44 AM
I just look at the scan, it says that you just aim and shoot T_T such lame controls, so now the game is easy as hell with the remote? or are they going to handle difficulties and make it harder for the rev and easy for the GC? what about Z (L) targeting? what the hell is happening with game?

DAMN I need a confirmation now about the status of the GC game...


Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 10:56:19 AM
Chill.......


You haven't even PLAYED the game, much less, heard of any impressions (excluding this one of course).
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 08, 2006, 11:07:18 AM
So you looked at the scan and decided that was a better way to judge the game than the impressions of the person playing it.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 11:12:14 AM
The dude said, you aim and fire. That's so vague. Plus the impressions are what....two lines long? I think the picture gives a better picture (no pun intended) of what we should expect.

Like they always say: Pictures are worth a thousand words.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: King of Twitch on May 08, 2006, 11:39:22 AM
The heart containers and magic bar is missing from the screen as well.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 11:46:02 AM
Its not a full screenshot from what I can gather there.

Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: obscureownership on May 08, 2006, 11:47:46 AM
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Originally posted by: mantidor

I just look at the scan, it says that you just aim and shoot T_T such lame controls, so now the game is easy as hell with the remote? or are they going to handle difficulties and make it harder for the rev and easy for the GC? what about Z (L) targeting? what the hell is happening with game?

DAMN I need a confirmation now about the status of the GC game...



Stop complaining about things that haven't even been solidified yet. I'm tired of hearing you complain about stuff that doesn't matter. The aiming of the sling shot? Who cares, that was never a major point in the game anyway. I hated aiming the sling shot the traditional way. Also, the gameplay has to change on the Wii. It just has to. You know that once you actually hear people playing this, they are going to love it. And you will too, I'm betting. Nintendo did A LOT of research and development on this controller, and I'm willing to bet with the extra 6 months they were given, they were able to perfect the controlls.
 
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Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 12:00:09 PM
Amen
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 08, 2006, 12:04:06 PM
"I just look at the scan, it says that you just aim and shoot T_T such lame controls, so now the game is easy as hell with the remote?"

Hahahahaha!  Look here, if a game is difficult because of the controls, then it sucks...
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 12:04:38 PM
what are you talking about? theres was no extra six months given, the game wasnt finished in november and thats why it wasnt released, why the hell do people think that the game was "ready to go"?
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Post by: zakkiel on May 08, 2006, 12:06:11 PM
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Hahahahaha! Look here, if a game is difficult because of the controls, then it sucks...
Amen. That's why I hate all fighting games except SSB. The perfect control scheme is perfectly transparent.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 12:06:53 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"I just look at the scan, it says that you just aim and shoot T_T such lame controls, so now the game is easy as hell with the remote?"

Hahahahaha!  Look here, if a game is difficult because of the controls, then it sucks...


No, it sucks that one part, be it either GC or Rev,  will suffer because the attention is split, difficulty is just one issue among the many of making this stupid move of remote controls for a GC game, but Ive gone great lengths explaining it before, I wont do it again.

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Post by: obscureownership on May 08, 2006, 12:10:23 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
what are you talking about? theres was no extra six months given, the game wasnt finished in november and thats why it wasnt released, why the hell do people think that the game was "ready to go"?



It wasn't ready to go, but it was still obviously delayed for the Wii. They didn't need six months to debug the thing.
Title: RE:Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: The Omen on May 08, 2006, 12:15:17 PM
Mantidor, I have stuck up fpr you in the past, but for God sake, Zelda would never be slapped together haphazardly.  No matter what it looks like the controls are now, they will in fact rule once we get our grubby mitts upon it.  Calm yourself and bask in the glow of the triforce.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 12:31:45 PM
"Zelda would never be slapped together haphazardly."

I used to believe that Metroid would never see a multiplayer focused game, and here we are...

I just lost confidence on Nintendo, I dont blindly believe in them anymore, so I have to vent my doubts on their decisions, only hoping I will have to eat my words, because Ill gladly do it.

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Post by: wandering on May 08, 2006, 12:40:45 PM
Holy crap, did they change Link into a kid?
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Post by: Spak-Spang on May 08, 2006, 12:41:07 PM
I looked at the Tennis graphics...and I think those must be place holder graphics...as the game is probably a demo.

This could mean that the game still could become Mario Tennis.

Or it could mean that Nintendo is intentially choosing this style...

Again why would you choose a cartoon style with little detail, or fimilar characters.

To appeal to the masses.  The characters remind me of peanuts, and the graphics and everything are non intimidating and inviting for adults, females, kids, and pretty much everyone to play.

Still think that they are placeholder graphics though.

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Post by: obscureownership on May 08, 2006, 12:51:03 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
"Zelda would never be slapped together haphazardly."

I used to believe that Metroid would never see a multiplayer focused game, and here we are...

I just lost confidence on Nintendo, I dont blindly believe in them anymore, so I have to vent my doubts on their decisions, only hoping I will have to eat my words, because Ill gladly do it.


OH NO, Nintendo released a multiplayer focused Metriod game and people for the most part liked it! How terrible.  
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 12:54:16 PM
You probably care about what other people think, I dont, I want my damn real metroid for the DS and thats all.

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Post by: Smash_Brother on May 08, 2006, 12:54:20 PM
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Originally posted by: wandering
Holy crap, did they change Link into a kid?


No, that's only the top half of him in that picture.

Though, the scan looks VERY weird. I'm not sure if it's the scan quality or if TP's graphics have been redesigned a bit.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Mario on May 08, 2006, 12:56:49 PM
Zelda looks awesome there, hopefully the Wii sparkling innovations dont drag down the game too much.

Tennis looks awesome too! I find it funny it looks EXACTLY like Mario Tennis but with generic characters and Ian likes it. :P
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Post by: obscureownership on May 08, 2006, 01:05:05 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
You probably care about what other people think, I dont, I want my damn real metroid for the DS and thats all.


FYI, I don't care, I just wanted a good first person shooter on my DS. If they used Metriod as a vehicle for that, so be it.


EDIT: Also, you take how Nintendo treats obviously little filler games way too seriously.
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Post by: BigJim on May 08, 2006, 01:13:35 PM
Keep an eye out for EGM scans. Apparently the latest one has Zelda on the cover... more pics inside as well as more game info.

Someone on GAF is claiming that the sword swinging is only "sometimes" since your arm would get tired... at least Nintendo understands that, so now I can rest easier.
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Post by: Caliban on May 08, 2006, 01:20:32 PM
Link looks really awesome in that scan, and the Tennis game looks pretty cute.
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Post by: The Omen on May 08, 2006, 01:21:39 PM
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Keep an eye out for EGM scans. Apparently the latest one has Zelda on the cover... more pics inside as well as more game info.


Apparently in that same issue, they claim the Wii launches at $250.  Must include a game...
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 01:25:46 PM
or maybe the remote is expensive.

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Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 01:25:57 PM
"Apparently in that same issue, they claim the Wii launches at $250. Must include a game..."

$250??  That's a little high.  Didn't the Cube only cost $200?  What was the point of gutting the hardware to all hell if the price wasn't going to be any lower than normal?
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Post by: Mario on May 08, 2006, 01:28:14 PM
It hasn't been confirmed that that just isn't speculation on EGMs part. BTW apparently Reggie and Nintendo are really pissed that this stuff has leaked out of EGM. I guess the speaker in the wiimote is the big secret.
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Post by: The Omen on May 08, 2006, 01:30:53 PM
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$250?? That's a little high. Didn't the Cube only cost $200? What was the point of gutting the hardware to all hell if the price wasn't going to be any lower than normal?


Well if it comes with two wiimotes, two nunchucks, and a game like Mario 128, I am fine paying $250.  I paid $250 for my N64 because it was bundled with Mario 64 at Toys R Us, and I don't see why this would be frowned upon...
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 01:30:56 PM
"BTW apparently Reggie and Nintendo are really pissed that this stuff has leaked out of EGM. I guess the speaker in the wiimote is the big secret."

The speaker sounds pretty minor so, yeah, that probably is the "big secret".  With Nintendo "big secret" is like secret code for "minor feature that's kind of neat but no one would give two sh!ts about if it didn't exist".
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Post by: KnowsNothing on May 08, 2006, 01:32:31 PM
I'm fairly positive that the Cube launched at $250, although I'm surprised that I can't remember correctly.  I'd be willing to bet at least three toes on 25o though.  I was expecting $200 for Wii, but 250 isn't bad.

Oh, and speaker in remote is both lame and cool.  I was expecting something bigger, but it could be pretty cool.  There's potential for hilarity in games liek Wario Ware too (I want Wario to insult me when I mess one up)
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Post by: BigJim on May 08, 2006, 01:33:27 PM
The Cube launched at $200 in the states.

I think EGM's wording was "$250 seems reasonable."  They may not know the price yet.  
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Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 01:42:33 PM
I really wasnt expecting anything mindblowing about "the secret feature", I find this pretty neat, exactly what I expected.

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Post by: The Omen on May 08, 2006, 01:45:32 PM
The speaker can't be the huge secret...because unless I'm missing exactly what it entails, it seems about as useful as rumble, which is all fine and dandy.  But not exactly something worth hiding, so I would say this is not the 'other' shoe dropping.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on May 08, 2006, 01:47:06 PM
Something along the lines of rumble is huge.  I mean, EVERY controller now has rumble, Sony even went so far as to break the law to get rumble in their controllers.
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Post by: Mario on May 08, 2006, 01:51:31 PM
A speaker on the remote woudl be cool for horror games. Hopefully there's a headphone jack on it too.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 01:55:11 PM
Just think about it, it will be really inmersive, navi talks to you in the remote and when she goes away the sounds goes from your hand to your TV, its not perfect 3D sound but it almost is.

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Post by: couchmonkey on May 08, 2006, 01:56:56 PM
A speaker on the remote is pretty cool, but I'm on the side of folks who don't consider it huge.  It's only about equally insteresting to the accelerometer on the nunchuck attachment, IMO.

I was hoping for something a little more exciting/realistic for the tennis game, graphically, hopefully it's just a demo.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 01:57:13 PM
A speaker seems like an odd thing to keep secret, particularly when the motion control is the real selling point and for some reason Nintendo revealed that with plenty of time before launch for Sony to steal it.

"The motion control is all fine and good but it's the SPEAKER that's going to make the big difference for us.  If Sony steals the speaker idea we'll be TOTALLY SCREWED!!"
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Post by: The Omen on May 08, 2006, 01:57:19 PM
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Something along the lines of rumble is huge. I mean, EVERY controller now has rumble, Sony even went so far as to break the law to get rumble in their controllers.


I mean the way I look at rumble now...as if it were announced that the wiimote contained rumble today, I would be 'meh'.  That's how I feel about the speaker, unless it's a dynamic surround sound set up, like a bose system and you can plug headphones into it...which begins to tie into the virtual Reality rumors, actually...hmmm
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Post by: IceCold on May 08, 2006, 01:58:24 PM
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With Nintendo "big secret" is like secret code for "minor feature that's kind of neat but no one would give two sh!ts about if it didn't exist".
Hey! I liked the GameCube digital click shoulder buttons.. And the waterpack. And the two-character karts.

EDIT: Maybe if the speaker is the secret, which I hope it isn't, they didn't reveal it to keep the hype going? I mean, you have to have something for people to get excited about in the transition period between TGS and E3. I know, it's pretty lame, but still..
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Post by: couchmonkey on May 08, 2006, 02:01:05 PM
Ian, I don't think Nintendo's concern is as much keeping secrets from Sony as it is having interesting new features to tell us about.  Though I have to agree that this is nowhere near on par with the motion control, as far as secrets go.
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Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 02:01:29 PM
The remote idea is harder to copy, putting a speaker is easy to copy.

As far as I know it went like this:

Miyamoto said that the controller had a secret (which now it seems it was secrets, nunchaku acelerometers and speaker)

Iwata said in GDC that the console (as in the whole thing, not just the controller) wasnt fully revealed and that "the big secret" will be revealed at E3. My guess, something to do with online, so I dont care about it.

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Post by: IceCold on May 08, 2006, 02:03:07 PM
I always thought it was something embedded in the hardware, but I guess we'll find out..
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 02:03:32 PM
"The remote idea is harder to copy, putting a speaker is easy to copy."

True though I think the speaker idea really needs the motion control to compliment it in order to make it even remotely useful.  Like swinging your remote like a bat and having it make the "crack" sound when you hit the ball would be pretty cool.  Just having a normal controller making noise seems kind of useless.
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Post by: The Omen on May 08, 2006, 02:15:39 PM
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True though I think the speaker idea really needs the motion control to compliment it in order to make it even remotely useful. Like swinging your remote like a bat and having it make the "crack" sound when you hit the ball would be pretty cool. Just having a normal controller making noise seems kind of useless.


Why wouldn't the crack of the bat just come out of my tv speakers?  I don't find this all that immersive unless there's a lot more to it.
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Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 02:18:28 PM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
I looked at the Tennis graphics...and I think those must be place holder graphics...as the game is probably a demo.

This could mean that the game still could become Mario Tennis.


The way I see it, it looks like the charachters are disjointed, in the Rayman kind of fashion. Nintendo went with these "place holder" graphics because it would look ackward if they were real. A realistic arm would look fake anyways due to the controller. It would wobble around like a damn puppet on a string.

I love the art style they chose. It's very minimalistic and it gets the job done. And it does one more thing.....it puts the focus on control, and really that's where Nintendo wants to be.

I'm sure a Mario Tennis will makes its debut, but honestly I wouldn't miss it. This looks halarious.

EDIT:

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I want Wario to insult me when I mess one up


You would like that wouldn't you.....you naughty boy

Speaker huh? Well that's really funny because I mentioned how BADASS it would be if the Star Wars game had lightsaber noises coming out of the controller. *VHOOM* *VHOOOOOOOOOM*

BAD ASS!

Anyway, I was already content with the Wii and what it has to offer. It's funny, because I still don't know sh!t. But really, everything is delicious delicious icing on top of a moist cake.  
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 02:32:39 PM
"Why wouldn't the crack of the bat just come out of my tv speakers? I don't find this all that immersive unless there's a lot more to it."

I assume the idea is that the sound comes from where the source would be.  So hearing the crack of the bat as if it's coming from the bat itself (ie: the remote) is more immersive then hearing it from the TV.  I don't think this is that amazing of an idea but I think that's what Nintendo is going for.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 08, 2006, 03:38:44 PM
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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
I'm fairly positive that the Cube launched at $250, although I'm surprised that I can't remember correctly.  I'd be willing to bet at least three toes on 25o though.


I see no toes.

EDIT: Just remember, every Nintendo home system to date has launched at $200 in the US.
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Post by: wandering on May 09, 2006, 12:03:58 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
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Originally posted by: wandering
Holy crap, did they change Link into a kid?


No, that's only the top half of him in that picture.

Though, the scan looks VERY weird. I'm not sure if it's the scan quality or if TP's graphics have been redesigned a bit.


Ah, right. I was thinking the pouch on his belt was his boot for some reason.

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Originally posted by: Requiem

The way I see it, it looks like the charachters are disjointed, in the Rayman kind of fashion. Nintendo went with these "place holder" graphics because it would look ackward if they were real. A realistic arm would look fake anyways due to the controller. It would wobble around like a damn puppet on a string.

Yeah, making a realistic-looking tennis game would be much harder.

Another thing, players just probably couldn't recreate actual tennis moves while sitting on the couch. In a real tennis swing, you have to move your arm a long ways and twist your body and all that. With stylized graphics, you can have the tennis racket move a shorter distance and not look weird.
Title: RE: Time Magazine demos Wario Ware, Tennis, & TP for Wii!
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 09, 2006, 12:41:17 AM
um where exactly on the wiimote will the speakers be located? I imagine that my fat hands will smother the remote, and unless the speakers are on the side(s) then we aren't going to hear ****

edit: I really really really want to be able to pull back my bow before I fire in LoZ:TP.

soooo immersive.