Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 08:51:02 AM
Let's get this over with...
Nintendo will fully show off the Wii: UH.....DUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!
Seriously now, Nintendo's main focus will be the Wii, it's games and the controller.
However, I think we might get more info on:
- Their online service
- Their downloadable game service
- Third developer support
- Marketing strategy
- Expected sales
Nintendo will show off an updated Twilight Princess: It hasn't been shown since last year's E3 and I'm sure it must've been updated by now.
In fact, don't be surprised if they use TP as another game to show off the Wii controller (unless the Wii features are so small (...) it isn't worth mentioning at the conference)
Further plans for the Nintendo DS: Completely expected. This is where they might reveal a completely new killer APP for the DS as well as announce the US launch of the DS Lite (and boast how insanely popular it is around the world).
Wishful thinking department: The Wii name will be changed: At admit at first I truly believed that thanks to the massive negative reaction the name got at first the name might get changed in order to appeal to fans. But then this might be wishful thinking at is finest...
At the very least, though, I think we will see further explanation of why the name was picked, explain to fans why the name works and tell us how they are going to market it. I REALLY hope they don't recycle the same comments from Kaplan. "We wanted to be similar to Yahoo!".
I know I am missing some stuff, you guys can add to the list of expected E3 happenings.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 08:53:59 AM
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Post by: Crimm on May 02, 2006, 09:01:27 AM
I really want to see launch line-up, and if we don't get at least a preliminary launch list, they failed E3. We'll probably get a "price is still being considered, but right now it should be around __________." Same for the launch window.
You know, besides all the Wii stuff, Capcom porting over more Phoenix Wright games would be awesome. I'm silently (well actually loudly) hoping they announce that.
HEAR ME CAPCOM?!
I don't expect it, but it would be great news.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 09:02:45 AM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
Nitendo wont full unveil the console, they'll say at the end something along the lines "and the best is yet to come!" to keep the hype up.
True, Nintendo does love to keep things hidden from us...
But what I mean is that this time they will fully unveil the Nintendo Wii with ACTUAL game footage, demos of how the controller works, strategy ideas, developers and launch. They NEED to get info out BADLY. Being ambigious (sp?) about it will not help them, AT ALL. They NEED to tell the world about the Wii. With a strange concept at is it, they owe us a full presentation...
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 09:10:43 AM
And a Phoenix Wright sequel on the Rev would equate pants creaming time.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2006, 09:11:53 AM
This lack of information is usually accompanied by Nintendo spending a considerably long amount of time showing off something that no one cares about like Pac-Man Vs. "If you liked those two seconds of Zelda footage you'll LOVE this next half hour dedicated to the Gameboy Micro!"
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 09:19:35 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Game footage is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. It's time to lay the cards on the table already. Ideally, game demos are a must as well.
And a Phoenix Wright sequel on the Rev would equate pants creaming time.
I read somewhere that Capcom MIGHT port the second PW game to the DS and add an exclusive case.
This is still speculation, of course, but due to the STRONG reception to the game, it will be stupid of them not to reward gamers with a second game.
And Ian, I KNOW that Nintendo has the tendency to keep things in the air. But in the least, I am hoping for Nintendo to demo at least 2 games with vastly different controller schemes (Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Brothers could be), maybe one demo of one of Nintendo's new franchises, a trailer for all their Wii games and then Zelda.
They HAVE to. If they just do a lame presentation with comments "Wait and see!" I will be even more dissapointed at them more than the new name. We have been waiting nearly two years to see what the Revolution is all about, and we have waited ENOUGH. This is the time for a full explanation.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 09:21:01 AM
Even Nintendo isn't so dense that they wouldn't realize they need to STORM this year's E3 with assloads of information.
It's now or never.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 09:24:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I agree.
I don't even think Nintendo is dense enough to not realize that they need to STORM this year's E3 with assloads of information.
Yeah. An overly pompous sounding guy I heard on a Podcast said it the best; this is Nintendo's E3.
Sure, people will enjoy what the XBOX 360 and PS3 are going to offer, but the Wii is something new that people have been DYING to try out. The excitement over this is huge. Even with the silly name people still want to know what the fuss is about.
Like I said, it will be stupid of Nintendo to leave us guessing AGAIN.
Post by: Michael8983 on May 02, 2006, 09:37:00 AM
The Wii launches in like six months or less.
I fully expect Nintendo to have at least a dozens of games on display and playable.
I also suspect that certain third-party titles from the likes of Capcom, Namco, Konami, Sega, and even Square (and EVEN Ubisoft w/Red Steel) will steal some of the spotlight from Nintendo's own Wii titles.
Once E3 has come and gone I think Nintendo fans will have a huge list of must-have games coming out this year. That's just counting Wii titles. Add in the DS which should get some amazing support from developers now that its a proven success and there will be a ton of homeless Nintendo fans by year's end.
Post by: Requiem on May 02, 2006, 09:37:01 AM
My guess is they show exactly what the NRC can do, and how it will translate into games.
At the press conference, Nintendo will show a bunch of different games from different genres. Some of them are 1st party, while the others are 2nd and 3rd.
They basically go down the line hitting every major genre out there, while simultaneously announcing games.
For instance, they want to explain how the NRC will improve gaming in the RPG genre. They use Camelot's RPG to show how revolutionary the controller is.
Sports - Madden
FPS - Red Steel
RPG - Camelot
Survival Horror - Resident Evil
FPA - Metriod Prime
Fighting - SSB
New genre - New IP
And so on and so forth...
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 09:41:11 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 02, 2006, 09:45:17 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 09:48:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
Nintendo, oh Nintendo, where art thou?
My guess is they show exactly what the NRC can do, and how it will translate into games.
At the press conference, Nintendo will show a bunch of different games from different genres. Some of them are 1st party, while the others are 2nd and 3rd.
They basically go down the line hitting every major genre out there, while simultaneously announcing games.
For instance, they want to explain how the NRC will improve gaming in the RPG genre. They use Camelot's RPG to show how revolutionary the controller is.
Sports - Madden
FPS - Red Steel
RPG - Camelot
Survival Horror - Resident Evil
FPA - Metriod Prime
Fighting - SSB
New genre - New IP
And so on and so forth...
Ideally, they should do that. I mean, the controller can easily do wonder for all the genres.
However, due to limited time, I think they will show off the games that will get people interested in. Then let the attendees play the other games at the booth.
I really think Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Brothers are going to be the games they will show off first.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
Oh I'm certain Nintendo will reveal Rev games. The launch lineup for example will be shown for sure. But there'll be something else in the background. We'll see like 2 seconds of it in a montage of clips. Yet it will be the coolest thing at the show and we'll all wish that Nintendo had revealed more about it. Either that or some major franchise like Mario or Metroid, that we're all assuming will be available at launch, won't be so we'll have to wait for more info.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 02, 2006, 09:54:48 AM
Post by: UncleBob on May 02, 2006, 09:57:46 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
This lack of information is usually accompanied by Nintendo spending a considerably long amount of time showing off something that no one cares about like Pac-Man Vs. "If you liked those two seconds of Zelda footage you'll LOVE this next half hour dedicated to the Gameboy Micro!"
I like Pac Man vs.... and my Game Boy micro...
Now, if only I could like them together!
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 09:58:12 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
I'm wondering who here will disappear from these forums after E3 season is over with.
I think Mr. Smash_Brother will still be around arguing, fighting and discussing the Wii, even after E3 is over...
He is such a debatable big lug, ain't he
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Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 09:59:45 AM
What's out for the DS in the coming months?
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 02, 2006, 10:08:45 AM
Only if Nintendo lets them. They've got a stranglehold on all Wii demos being shown (as in, they will all be at their booth) last I heard.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2006, 10:14:49 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
True, but nothing gets me away from forums like another game to play.
What's out for the DS in the coming months?
How could you forget? The New Super Mario Bros of course
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2006, 10:16:15 AM
Nothing says third party friendly like being a control freak.
Post by: UncleBob on May 02, 2006, 10:21:03 AM
Post by: Michael8983 on May 02, 2006, 10:31:15 AM
Seems like most third-parties would be pleased Nintendo would showcase their titles along with its own first and second party titles.
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 02, 2006, 10:33:12 AM
Luckily, not much longer to go.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2006, 10:40:04 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
I'm with Ian on this one, all the secrecy and cloak-and-dagger stuff is pretty silly and I'm getting tired of it.
Luckily, not much longer to go.
Hey the cloak and dagger stuff makes the surprise even bigger when it is revealed. Besides the most important time of a consoles life is the last 3 or 4 months before its release, so in a way I understand why Nintendo keeps the Wii hidden. If things are let out of the bag too soon there is still a chance of their ideas being stolen if they indeed blow the socks off the competition. We will see this E3 if that is indeed the case.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2006, 11:32:42 AM
There's a difference between inviting someone to have their game showcased in Nintendo's booth and forcing everyone to. There's also the issue of telling someone they can't have their game demoed because there's no room or forcing a limitation on how many demo units a third party gets. If I was a third party I would like to have the flexibility to have as many demo units as I want. I would also want my Wii games to attract attention to my overall booth and thus get people looking at all my products for all the consoles.
From Nintendo's point of view I think it would look better to have third party Wii games all over the floor. Nintendo has had problems with third party support. Even when a Nintendo console gets an exclusive third party game it seems like a special deal while the REAL support from that third party is somewhere else. Like Nintendo gets a game here and five games there but never anything serious. I think having all Wii games in the same area creates the feeling that it will be the same thing yet again. Nintendo gets a few token games but all the real support goes to Sony and MS. This one section of the floor is for the Wii but everything else isn't.
I think it should be like the Wii is everywhere and that Nintendo doesn't have to make special deals to get third party games. That third parties will actually support Nintendo out of their own free will without Nintendo setting it all up. I think it would be better for someone checking out all the booths to think "hey there's a Wii game in this booth too." It looks more important if it's everywhere. A seperate section seperates Nintendo from the rest of the industry. I think it's better if it appears that Nintendo is infiltrating all sections of the industry and slowly taking over.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 12:36:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
True, but nothing gets me away from forums like another game to play.
What's out for the DS in the coming months?
Yeah, but then you finish the game, then back to the ranting and argumenting XD :p .
Post by: Michael8983 on May 02, 2006, 04:13:56 PM
For all we know, they may have been invited. You don't know that they've been forced.
Besides this E3 is all about the console's deput and upcoming launch. The focus is obviously going to be on a few select third-party titles along with Nintendo's own titles. A year from now when the console is a success and the third-party support increases I'm sure things will be different.
Post by: EasyCure on May 02, 2006, 04:40:12 PM
i say this year, to truley make it year of Wii...
nintendo have like little glass rooms with two holes youc an stick your arms in and grab a sword and swing at stuff, or grab a gun and shoot at stuff. then have some guy standing next to it going "thats how Wii role on nintendo's next consol ;-)" and bitch-slap you with a Red Steel sticker to the face.
maybe that would just be cool in my book though.
Post by: Crimm on May 02, 2006, 05:40:13 PM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
...bitch-slap you with a Red Steel sticker to the face.
maybe that would just be cool in my book though.
I'd pay to see Tommy Tallarico get bitch-slapped.
Post by: wandering on May 02, 2006, 07:21:50 PM
I'm expecting "We are the Champions" to be played sometime during the conference. Preferably when Reggie comes out. I'm also expecting Wii marketing slogans to be plastered everywhere in Nintendo's booth: "Wii will change everything", "Wii are Nintendo", etc. I also think the Wii start-up screen will make an appearence, and I think it will probably a variation on the Wii video Nintendo has already shown us.
Also, I'm sure some stuff not directly related to the new name will be shown too.
Post by: WindyMan on May 02, 2006, 08:49:20 PM
Everything will be known about Wii after E3. Everything.
Post by: IceCold on May 02, 2006, 09:02:05 PM
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Post by: BigJim on May 03, 2006, 05:27:41 AM
But both are pretty darn predictable this time, I'd say.
Post by: JonLeung on May 03, 2006, 09:47:04 AM
At 6 days, 21 hours, and 20some minutes to E3, that could mean that at this very moment next week, I'll have gotten to the front of the line to play the next Super Smash Bros.!
I remember counting down since over a month to E3. Now in mere days a lot of speculation will be over. Depending on what they show, we may be speculating more though. There may be currently unfathomable game experiences that we will all be discussing very soon.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 03, 2006, 09:51:26 AM
Nintendo basically has to convince a LOT of people as to why they shouldn't be afraid that the "wee" name will kill their sales in the US. The only way to do that is with games. They need to bring the games in playable form. Videos alone will NOT cut it.
Post by: IceCold on May 03, 2006, 01:19:25 PM
Post by: mantidor on May 03, 2006, 01:23:51 PM
Post by: jasonditz on May 03, 2006, 04:19:03 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
In defense of the graphics quality, if it was bad, they wouldve had released screenshots around this time like what they did with the name so we could get used to the idea before the conference.
That depends entirely on what they think the expectations are. Bad is a relative term, if you showed me a game that looked as good as TP and said "well, there it is", I don't think I'd be massively disappointed.
I've got a relatively high threshold for iffy graphics of course, coming from an Atari 2600 background (you young whippersnappers never had to use a tank made of two rectangles to shoot another tank with a dot, did you?), but late-in-life Gamecube graphics are still "plenty", IMO... and we know the Wii is going to be capable of well more than that, so from my perspective the only way a game's going to look bad is if the designer half-assed it.
Post by: lastexit on May 03, 2006, 04:44:30 PM
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DELAYED
hilarious. also probably the most realistic. lol
Post by: Artimus on May 03, 2006, 05:09:00 PM
Post by: 31 Flavas on May 03, 2006, 05:13:20 PM
QuoteWell, if the name was release because Nintendo knew people would have problems with it... But Nintendo still isn't releasing screen shots or videos despite popular opinion and even supposed "fact" with the IGN article that the graphics are weak... Then that must mean that Nintendo is confident that noone will need any "re-adjusting" time with the graphics.
Originally posted by: mantidor
In defense of the graphics quality, if it was bad, they wouldve had released screenshots around this time like what they did with the name so we could get used to the idea before the conference.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 03, 2006, 05:50:46 PM
Otherwise the internet won't be happy, cuz it's made of ass and poo.
