Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: ThePerm on April 29, 2006, 02:18:02 PM
Title: Wiill it be cheap?
Post by: ThePerm on April 29, 2006, 02:18:02 PM
I've seen screens for Red Steal, and honestly it wasnt much better than an xbox game. So the question is..how much is this going to cost. My bet is if their not going to be doushebags, then 129 just like DS.
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Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2006, 02:19:30 PM
You really do live in another world...
$199 I'd say, like every console they've ever released.
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Post by: Athrun Zala on April 29, 2006, 02:57:11 PM
graphics aren't everything, it's obvious the R&D of the Revmote.....eh, Wiimote, was expensive (and we're talking abot Nintendo, thus they are planning to get some profit) so I'm kind of betting that its price will be like $199
(Besides, it will work against them to place it on the price range of the DS....)
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Post by: Kairon on April 29, 2006, 02:58:46 PM
ThePerm, you gotta factor in the controller costs as well. I'd say $199 or just barely under it.
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: ThePerm on May 02, 2006, 05:17:30 PM
i doubt the motion sensor costs anymore then an analog stick
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Post by: BiLdItUp1 on May 02, 2006, 05:23:41 PM
They're not gonna break with $199 launch tradition. If they're douches, they might go up to $249, figuring that they'll still be $150 less than competition but I doubt it.
Price drop to $149 shortly after E3 2007.
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Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on May 02, 2006, 05:29:48 PM
If a $249 package includes the following, I won't complain one bit.
-Console w/cables and sensor bar. -Two remote controllers. -One nunchaku add-on. -One shell add-on. -Demo Disc (not games, just mini-game stuff that you can ease into the concept with).
I'd pick that up in a second.
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Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 02, 2006, 05:43:05 PM
make it two nunchacku and I'm sold at $250
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Post by: Caliban on May 02, 2006, 05:43:15 PM
Adding to VG's list:
-Credits for the Virtual Console, or a number of games available to choose from for free from the Virtual Console.
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Post by: Arbok on May 02, 2006, 07:05:35 PM
Quote Originally posted by: ThePerm i doubt the motion sensor costs anymore then an analog stick
As someone else said: Research and Development. It might not cost much more to produce a unit with the tech, much more than a analog stick though, but Nintendo likely sunk a huge amount of money into testing the technology and perfecting it for the console.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2006, 07:17:11 PM
If I remember right N64 launched for $249.99, or at least thats what it was being sold for at the stores around here.
I'm pretty sure Wii will be no more than $249.99 and no less than $199.99. Either price I'm willing to pay cause either way its still cheaper than the competition.
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Post by: Artimus on May 02, 2006, 07:29:41 PM
The N64 was $199 at launch. SNES too.
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Post by: Arbok on May 02, 2006, 07:32:41 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Artimus The N64 was $199 at launch. SNES too.
Yes, the system was going to launch for $250 in the US, but NOA got it down to the $200 range due to perceiving the PS1 as a possible threat (and how right they were...)
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Post by: Knoxxville on May 02, 2006, 07:49:07 PM
I really doubt it'll come with 2 wiimotes, however, that would contradict their whole little "Wii" philosophy, so who knows? 199 sounds about right, tho.
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Post by: jasonditz on May 02, 2006, 08:04:36 PM
$199 with two wiimotes, but only 1 shell and 1 nunchuck might be acceptable... seems like the ii nature of the system necessitates the 2 'motes.
$249 almost needs a game, IMO...
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 02, 2006, 10:03:31 PM
I say 2 Wiimotes, 2 nunchuks, the system, a free Download(or predownloaded game, maybe SMB:3 or World) a demo disc and maybe a shell or two and I'd gladly drop $250 for it.
For $199 I'd want 2 nunchuks and two Wiimotes with the system.
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Post by: wandering on May 02, 2006, 10:06:27 PM
$199 with one wiimote and one nunchaku and one shell seems fine to me.
2 wiimotes would be great, but I'm not exactly expecting it.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2006, 10:41:00 PM
Judging a system's graphical quality by screenshots is not always the best policy for best or for worse. You don't know how smooth the framerate is, nor do you know how much is going on at once. With that said I think Red Steel has promise graphically, though that is as far as I will say, we'll probaly find out at E3. I've also heard rumors from individuals here (not sure how reliable the person was though) that the final dev kits are much more powerful than the specs IGN provided.
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 02, 2006, 10:50:02 PM
If they only give one Wiimote then it doesn't really give that family playing together thing that they want to push.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2006, 11:11:51 PM
Should be interesting to see what they do, it will have to depend on a number of factors: 1. How much will they actually charge? 2. How much cash they splurged on the graphical hardware? 3. How much the Wiimotes cost them?
If two Wiimotes are included with two nunchucks (they about have to include the nunchuck) it could easily push the system to 250-300$ range. That is not taking into account the all but forgotten "traditional" shell being included it (is it just me or has the fuss over including one died down alot?)
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on May 03, 2006, 02:07:32 AM
Yes and that's because people are starting to realize its not needed as much.
Also considering the rumors of how cheap the Wii system is to make, I think they could keep it under $250 with two Wiimotes
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Post by: frogger79 on May 03, 2006, 05:10:25 AM
I'm hoping it comes with 2 controllers but I wouldn't count on it. My thing is, if games are requiring the nunchaku, why would they package a controller without one? It would be suicide to tell people you HAVE to buy this accessory if you want to play half the games.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on May 03, 2006, 06:30:07 AM
Quote Originally posted by: ThePerm I've seen screens for Red Steal, and honestly it wasnt much better than an xbox game. So the question is..how much is this going to cost. My bet is if their not going to be doushebags, then 129 just like DS.
I really don't think we should judge the Wii's graphical power by some screenshots of a single game, of which we have no clue how far into the development cycle it is. Gamecube games really didn't look that bad(RE4), and if the Wii is 2x as powerful or a bit more, these games should look fantastic. Just because the Xbox 360 and the PS3 have a ton of horsepower, doesn't mean the games will look that great. Alot of processing power is often wasted on features that aren't easily seen by the human eye. By cutting these out and taking other shortcuts Wii games have potential to look just about as good. Plus, it isn't about the graphics it's all about the gameplay. Star Fox 64 looks like ass but I'd take that anyday over Star Fox: Assault.
I say Nintendo charges $199 for the Wii and hooks us up with all the attachments and an extra Wii-mote. Quite frankly it could cost $400 and I'd still buy one.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 03, 2006, 08:28:16 AM
There's no way they'll ship two controllers but only one nunchuk. It looks like they plan on that being a standard so it has to come with every controller.
I would prefer if the console was barebones and cheap. I dont want to pay extra for two controllers. Just give me one and let me decide if I want to buy another one. And if the hardware is as weak as we all think it is then the price should reflect it. I don't want Nintendo to compromise our gaming experience so they can make more profit on the hardware. If the hardware was gutted to get the price down then Nintendo should be breaking even on the console, not profiting off of it.
I'm more curious about the controller price. If it costs some serious change to get extra controllers then four player games are going to be rare.
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Post by: AnyoneEB on May 03, 2006, 11:19:43 AM
Wasn't GameCube initially sold at a small profit? I see not reason to not expect the same for the Wii.
Controller prices could definitely be a problem. Personally, I like to own 4 controllers. (I bought 4 at launch for GCN.) At launch, GCN's wired controllers were $35 (dropped to $25 when the Wavebird took over the $35 price point). The Wii's controllers are much more complex and have an unknown number of attachments included (at least the nunchuk, probably the shell, maybe more we don't know about). I would not be completely surprised to see $40-$45 controllers, but that is approaching the price of a game. Hopefully, Nintendo will manage a $35 or lower controller price (especially if they want to encourage multiplayer), but I'm not counting on it.
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Post by: IceCold on May 03, 2006, 01:47:05 PM
Quote Originally posted by: frogger79 I'm hoping it comes with 2 controllers but I wouldn't count on it. My thing is, if games are requiring the nunchaku, why would they package a controller without one? It would be suicide to tell people you HAVE to buy this accessory if you want to play half the games.
Oh, I don't think there's a doubt that, if they pack it in with two controllers, the analogue attachments will be included
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 03, 2006, 03:13:14 PM
Quote Originally posted by: AnyoneEB Wasn't GameCube initially sold at a small profit? I see not reason to not expect the same for the Wii.
Controller prices could definitely be a problem. Personally, I like to own 4 controllers. (I bought 4 at launch for GCN.) At launch, GCN's wired controllers were $35 (dropped to $25 when the Wavebird took over the $35 price point). The Wii's controllers are much more complex and have an unknown number of attachments included (at least the nunchuk, probably the shell, maybe more we don't know about). I would not be completely surprised to see $40-$45 controllers, but that is approaching the price of a game. Hopefully, Nintendo will manage a $35 or lower controller price (especially if they want to encourage multiplayer), but I'm not counting on it.
40-45$ controllers sounds like the Xbox 360 controllers, which is sad considering the wiimote is more than a standard controller and still may only be priced at the 360 gamepad level.
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Post by: Kairon on May 03, 2006, 03:30:00 PM
Ready in the latest in a series of blog-originating unconfirmed and baseless rumors?
Quote The Wii will be free with the purchase of: - Four Wii Games - Three Wii Games and a Controller (w/ nunchuck attachment) - Bundle will sell for about $199.
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: Jensen on May 03, 2006, 03:45:03 PM
I don't see a lot of need for including the shell, except for Virtual Console downloads (snes and n64). If they don't include one, it is like VC doesn't come with the console. I still would have liked to have sees a couple of kidney bean buttons around the A button so the Shell would hardly be needed at all.
Two wiimotes in the box could be beneficial to even singleplayer, for multi weemote games (like a drumming game), unless the nunchuck is good for that. But does W stand for womething, if the ii stands for two wiimotes?
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Post by: wandering on May 03, 2006, 08:19:08 PM
Quote Wasn't GameCube initially sold at a small profit? I see not reason to not expect the same for the Wii.
Small loss, actually, iirc.
Quote Ready in the latest in a series of blog-originating unconfirmed and baseless rumors?
Printing information from a tipster who you yourself don't know the identity of? Okey-dokey.
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Post by: jasonditz on May 03, 2006, 08:32:24 PM
Gotta include one shell. For one you don't want people to have to buy anything to use the VC. For another, they (I think) already promised to bundle one.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 03, 2006, 11:14:58 PM
My guess is that the shell will be relatively cheap to make, so there be no reason NOT to include one.
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Post by: Kairon on May 03, 2006, 11:30:53 PM
We still don't know what the Shell IS exactly...
~Carmine M. Red Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: wandering on May 03, 2006, 11:33:21 PM
Yeah. For all we know, it could come bundled with a screen.