Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Artimus on April 28, 2006, 09:36:05 PM
Title: The problem with "Wii'...
Post by: Artimus on April 28, 2006, 09:36:05 PM
Reading more and listening to some thoughts about the name has finally brought me to why the name just doesn't work. I like the idea of a short, simple word. I like the idea of something different with a lot of meanings. But 'Wii' isn't that name. Why? A few reasons:
1) Wii isn't the name of an object. It's hard to use, and it shouldn't have to be. Because it's based off of a pro-noun but is forced to function as a noun, and it makes it awkward. The names it is modelled after (iPod primarily) are set after the same principle, but it's not the same usage. It doesn't sound like an object, and there is no brand Nintendo has mentioned that is an object without some sort of noun. It just doesn't work they way they want it to. 2) It's outdated. The 'i' is old. The iMac redefined naming tech objects, and it was brilliant, but it's been 8 years. Everything has an 'i' now, every little device, everything. It's tired, and it's passe. The little 'i' is old, and it's going to be even older in 5 years.
Basically, I like the idea. I like the intent. I like the direction. But the name does not work like it's meant to. It's not that it's disgusting, or terrible, or offensive, it's just not right. It doesn't work.
Title: RE: The problem with "Wii'...
Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 09:43:29 PM
The problem with the name is that its imposible to be marketed in the UK. I think Nintendo just gave up on the british.
Someone in another forum pointed out something very interesting "I like the name a lot because I dont know how to pronounce it", that actually got me thinking about my own hate for the name, if I didnt know about how its pronounced, Id actually like it.
Title: RE:The problem with "Wii'...
Post by: Dasmos on April 28, 2006, 09:46:37 PM
There is no problem with Wii, the problem resides in those to immature to look past "urine" references.
Title: RE: The problem with "Wii'...
Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 09:50:42 PM
As far as I know, the urine references are pretty standard in the UK, is not slang or inmature in any way, is a common day word used by everyone to talk about going to the bathroom to piss.
I dont like the sound itself jokes aside, but the composition that the W and the two i makes is pretty cool.
Title: RE: The problem with "Wii'...
Post by: wandering on April 28, 2006, 09:52:26 PM
Good points.
I agree with point number 2 but not really point 1. The fact that the name is so unusual is what I like about it. No, it doesn't sound like a noun, or anything else heretofore on this earth. It's totally, completely, unique.
The reason the name works, for me, is that it looks good (it makes for a great logo), and it sounds good. If a non-gamer friend overhears a conversation along the lines of "Hey do you want to play some Xtremebox 460?" mental barriers immedatley go up. That's a whole other world to them, they know about that stuff and dismiss it. But if they overhear "You want to play some Wii?" they're intrigued. What the hell is Wii? A board game, a secret code for some naughty activity, what?
And intrigue is good.
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Post by: Hocotate on April 28, 2006, 10:01:43 PM
Seeing "Wii" on the box of a game would look incredibly fresh and interesting... It's just when saying it out loud, it sounds a bit odd. But when you think about the names of MS and Sony's consoles, Wii doesn't sound so bad. How boring is Xbox360? putting "360" after something just sounds like a corny Tyco RC truck. When I first saw the name I seriously thought it was a fake or joke (Nextbox would have been such a better name imo). And everyone knew the next Playstation was going to be called PS3.... It's rather boring... it makes you think your just getting another Xbox, or another playstation. Wii sounds like something completely fresh and new.
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Post by: Dasmos on April 28, 2006, 10:02:21 PM
Wandering's got it right.
1. People are going to ask about the name, and what it is, even if they don't like it, people will know what it is. 2. Wii looks cool. Wii. Wii. 3. As much as people hat to admit it, it can be marketed. The name sounds like "we", Nintendo ableit corny, will use this in their ad campaign.
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 28, 2006, 10:05:18 PM
I think Nintendo should Just start showing the short flash Movie for the Wii everywhere, so by the time the Wii is out everyone will be used to it.
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Post by: ThePerm on April 28, 2006, 10:08:17 PM
the problem is it looks great, but sounds horrible. It is a high pitched and annoying word. I wish Nintendo wasn't so arrogant. This is rediculous.
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Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 10:09:27 PM
thats the problem for UK, people wont talk about it like just "wii" to be confused with "we", people will use it as noun, which means calling it "the wii" with the "the", and it will be the laughing stock of marketing for years to come, the wii sounds like "the wee" for them and no marketing campaing will change that.
Seriously the few british Ive seen in forums said that the name simply wont take off over there.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on April 28, 2006, 10:13:07 PM
"I wish Nintendo wasn't so arrogant."
Alright, this has to be at least the third time I've heard this, and I'd REALLY like to hear the reasoning behind it. And not the butchered, pseudo-logic most of you are throwing out, but something honestly supporting this claim. I'd like that.
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Post by: Bloodworth on April 28, 2006, 10:45:04 PM
Quote There is no problem with Wii, the problem resides in those to immature to look past "urine" references.
I'm sorry, but I don't think it has anything to do with maturity - or rather, I think it instantly causes people to forget themselves and regress. Everyone I've mentioned it to in conversation, no matter how old or mature they may be, immediately thinks it sounds phallic, silly, or just plain stupid. People make jokes because it sounds like a bad joke.
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 28, 2006, 10:48:07 PM
I here a civil war is brewing, pro-wii vs. anti-wii. Will the PGC boards run red with the blood of the unbelievers?
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Post by: eljefe on April 28, 2006, 10:48:28 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Quote There is no problem with Wii, the problem resides in those to immature to look past "urine" references.
I'm sorry, but I don't think it has anything to do with maturity - or rather, I think it instantly causes people to forget themselves and regress. Everyone I've mentioned it to in conversation, no matter how old or mature they may be, immediately thinks it sounds phallic, silly, or just plain stupid. People make jokes because it sounds like a bad joke.
which is OK
Regression for a few moments, even as frequently as EVERYTIME you look at/ say Wii, is normal and has to be expected even by Nintendo.
Thinking it will fail just because of that = not looking past the urine jokes
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Post by: Dasmos on April 28, 2006, 10:50:23 PM
The people I have talked to have remarked that it sounds wierd, and that's about it. It IS wierd, but it's not a bad name, except to those who associate it with "wee".
Title: RE: The problem with "Wii'...
Post by: wandering on April 28, 2006, 10:53:38 PM
Quote "I wish Nintendo wasn't so arrogant."
Alright, this has to be at least the third time I've heard this, and I'd REALLY like to hear the reasoning behind it. And not the butchered, pseudo-logic most of you are throwing out, but something honestly supporting this claim. I'd like that.
We don't like the name, Nintendo is using it anyway. I imagine.
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 28, 2006, 11:22:24 PM
But not everyone hates the name, originally I did, but now i'm ok with it.
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Post by: BigJim on April 29, 2006, 05:05:08 AM
I agree with the OP's (original poster's) second point.
I don't have a problem with Nintendo going with an abstract name. That's their best chance of busting out of the gamer-only crowd. But the use of the i's IS dated, and "Wii" just isn't a good pick, despite the ridiculously easy marketing.
Even if they were to add another letter or syllable, it could be better. Add an 'O' or something. Wiio. (We-Oh).
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Post by: odilon on April 29, 2006, 05:17:24 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Artimus 2) It's outdated. The 'i' is old. The iMac redefined naming tech objects, and it was brilliant, but it's been 8 years. Everything has an 'i' now, every little device, everything. It's tired, and it's passe. The little 'i' is old, and it's going to be even older in 5 years.
But it's not the iWii, it's simply Wii. That's almost like saying that the name Revolution wouldn't have worked, because of the 'i'. (Almost.)
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Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2006, 05:49:22 AM
Quote Originally posted by: odilon
Quote Originally posted by: Artimus 2) It's outdated. The 'i' is old. The iMac redefined naming tech objects, and it was brilliant, but it's been 8 years. Everything has an 'i' now, every little device, everything. It's tired, and it's passe. The little 'i' is old, and it's going to be even older in 5 years.
But it's not the iWii, it's simply Wii. That's almost like saying that the name Revolution wouldn't have worked, because of the 'i'. (Almost.)
Uhhh...no. Have you not seen the video? The lower case 'i' is a central focus point of the name. They made a joke on the IGN podcast that people would buy the Wii because it was so radical it put the i after the capital letter. I didn't realize anyone would actually consider that a serious point...lol.
Title: RE: The problem with "Wii'...
Post by: mantidor on April 29, 2006, 07:13:24 AM
The jokes ARE a problem, you can say "oh grow up" as much as you want, but thats denial, its the first impression of the console in many, many people, and thats simply not a good impression.
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Post by: Edfishy on April 29, 2006, 11:21:30 AM
They could always rename it to "Iww" and satisfy all parties.
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Post by: Stimutacs Addict on April 29, 2006, 02:22:06 PM
Quote Originally posted by: ShyGuy I here a civil war is brewing, pro-wii vs. anti-wii. Will the PGC boards run red with the blood of the unbelievers?
