Post by: Bill Aurion on April 28, 2006, 06:40:28 PM
2) Konami has sent out postcards to the press..."RETURN," "REARM," "REGALE," "REBIRTH," "RESPECT," "REFINE." On the back, it reads "The REVOLT begins, Tuesday, May 9. It's the battle for E3."
3) IGNPODCAST supposedly brings up these titles...
Nintendo 2nd Wii FPS (NST)
Harvest Moon Wii
Trauma Center Wii
Sonic The Hedgehog Wii
Super Monkey Ball Wii
Nintendo Cooking Wii
Metroid Prime 3 Playable
Super Smash Bros Playable
New Nintendo Project (Retro)
Several New Nintendo IPs
I haven't personally gone through the podcast myself to check up on this, so I guess you should classify this last one as rumour...
Time to discuss!
Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 06:50:49 PM
Ive heard the Konami game is asociated with Kojima according to gamespot. It can be interesting, but I just dont like at all the MGS franchise, it has bored me to death, lets wait and see anyway.
Oh and I cant wait for Metroid Prime 3, Im anxious to know what they are doing, how much focus is on multiplayer specially which is really my big concern.
Edit:
haha of course is related with Kojima, it says so in the postcard :P I have to click the links first before posting next time!
Post by: Nephilim on April 28, 2006, 06:53:27 PM
hes pretty busy atm
I had totally forgotten about the cooking game
Post by: Artimus on April 28, 2006, 06:56:35 PM
This is all sounding so good. A week and a half...
Even the name has become less ridiculous.
Post by: Mario on April 28, 2006, 06:58:21 PM
Good news about Konami.
HORRIBLE news about the NST FPS. It's gonna turn out like generic garbage (like MPH) and we already have an exclusive FPS in Red Steel, and I wanted Wave Race from them!
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 28, 2006, 07:03:30 PM
And I haven't played Metroid Prime: Hunters, but it isn't generic. I've played the demo, and that's fine. And everything about it (while not as unique as MP) is well made, visually and gameplay-wise, just more similar to Western FPS games.
And supposedly it's really good, as an FPS, so if we get a non-Metroid FPS from NST, on Wii no less, that's great news.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 28, 2006, 08:45:21 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 28, 2006, 08:49:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Mario HORRIBLE news about the NST FPS. It's gonna turn out like generic garbage (like MPH) and we already have an exclusive FPS in Red Steel, and I wanted Wave Race from them!
Your name is noticeably absent from the list of wifi MPH friend codes.
Hmm...
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 28, 2006, 08:53:17 PM
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on April 28, 2006, 08:57:33 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 28, 2006, 09:06:27 PM
All their speculation just seems to show it could be for Wii.
Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 09:10:17 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 28, 2006, 09:30:17 PM
Post by: Hocotate on April 28, 2006, 09:47:58 PM
Post by: Mario on April 28, 2006, 09:55:57 PM
Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2006, 05:58:25 AM
Post by: Knoxxville on April 29, 2006, 06:06:20 AM
Post by: Terranigma Freak on April 29, 2006, 06:16:02 AM
Harvest Moon... Wii!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 29, 2006, 07:14:49 PM
It's rumoured that NST has another project in the works, and whether their FPS will come out first or this other secret game is unknown (if this rumour even follows through, of course...)
Post by: IceCold on April 29, 2006, 07:26:58 PM
I'm getting more excited by the minute; hopefully these irrational arguments will clear up come E3.
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 29, 2006, 08:17:45 PM
B-Trigger is Gas, A Break, and then you use the controller to line, pop wheelies and other stunts. It would be pretty cool.
Post by: jasonditz on April 29, 2006, 09:12:57 PM
My guess is they'll announce HM for the Wii, but their Wii launch title will be something else. I'm still holding out for hope it'll be another CIMA. That's an idea that really deserved another shot.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 29, 2006, 09:34:09 PM
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
Why would anyone buy a game they don't like?
The better question is, how can they call a game generic garbage when they don't own it or play it online where it's meant to be played?
I've stopped listening to rumors. E3 isn't far off, and I'm more interested to hear the other half of the wii story right now (and there had better be a 2nd half to the story...).
Post by: TrueNerd on April 29, 2006, 10:30:54 PM
Where the hell is Mario Wii? I will be PISSED if Mario doesn't make an appearance. At least until I see some Metroid Prim3 footage.
Post by: Michael8983 on April 29, 2006, 10:46:08 PM
I mean, Miyamoto once promised that Mario 128 would be finished in time to appear on the Gamecube.
He may have had to break that promise but the game has to be very far along in development for him to have actually been willing to make it at the time.
Even if it was entirely re-built for the Wii, most of the foundation had to already be there. There needs to be at least some video footage at E3. THERE BETTER BE!
The non-mention of Nights makes me worried that it might just be getting underway.
We might at most get a promotional FMV.
Post by: Berto2K on April 30, 2006, 01:49:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: TrueNerd
Now, that might mean Nintendo has Cassamasina locked under an NDA and he was hiding it by saying they were rumors, or maybe they're really just rumors. He confirmed everything else.
I can garuntee he is under a few NDAs. I am under one for a few things myself
.Post by: Bill Aurion on April 30, 2006, 07:10:11 AM
It's actually mentioned in there, sorry...I sorta expect it to be the last thing shown, but who knows? =D
Post by: Fro on April 30, 2006, 07:34:13 AM
Now, how long they are into the level design is another question.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 30, 2006, 06:39:36 PM
QuoteOh, yeah? like what? c'mon you can tell us* we won't tell anyone.. promise
Originally posted by: Berto2KQuote
Originally posted by: TrueNerd
Now, that might mean Nintendo has Cassamasina locked under an NDA and he was hiding it by saying they were rumors, or maybe they're really just rumors. He confirmed everything else.
I can garuntee he is under a few NDAs. I am under one for a few things myself
*by us I mean PM me with details
Post by: Berto2K on April 30, 2006, 08:59:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1QuoteOh, yeah? like what? c'mon you can tell us* we won't tell anyone.. promise
Originally posted by: Berto2KQuote
Originally posted by: TrueNerd
Now, that might mean Nintendo has Cassamasina locked under an NDA and he was hiding it by saying they were rumors, or maybe they're really just rumors. He confirmed everything else.
I can garuntee he is under a few NDAs. I am under one for a few things myself
*by us I mean PM me with details
hahah...riiiiight. you will find out next week
Post by: TrueNerd on April 30, 2006, 09:36:02 PM
Post by: wandering on April 30, 2006, 09:39:11 PM
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hahah...riiiiight. you will find out next week
I have two strong words for you. C'mon. C'mon. (name that reference.) (edit: TrueNerd beat me to it.)
Anyway. Listened to the podcast. I liked the whole 'Has footage of Red Steel been shown? - I'm out of it' 'Shown to who?' 'The public' 'No' 'The let's move on' bit. Pretty sure that was pre-planned.
Jokes were annoying, though. I've sort of come to the conclusion that Wii is actually so ridiculous you can't succeed in making fun of it. Like superheroes.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 01, 2006, 12:53:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
The better question is, how can they call a game generic garbage when they don't own it or play it online where it's meant to be played?
Because that's their opinion.
Post by: MysticGohan on May 01, 2006, 04:45:52 AM
Post by: Strell on May 01, 2006, 05:04:56 AM
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on May 01, 2006, 05:47:39 AM
Back on topic, is there any tidbit about what the 2nd Retro game could be? They had several projects that got canceled to make Metroid Prime, including an RPG, I think. I'd like to see what kind of RPG they'd make.
Post by: couchmonkey on May 01, 2006, 06:11:55 AM
I'm excited to hear Retro may be working on something other than Metroid. I strongly believe that it will not be any of the games Retro was working on back in the early GameCube era, just because all of them have been on the back burner so long. It would probably make more sense to start from scratch. I think the staff has changed quite a bit since then too. Although I guess I could see them taking some of the basic concepts behind one of the old games. At any rate, I'm really glad, because I hate seeing developers get pigeon-holed into making sequels to popular franchises over and over.
I also have to agree that an NST first person shooter would have more of an impact than Wave Race. This system could easily be THE system for first person shooters, but Nintendo will need to lead by example. Red Steel looks nice, but there's no guarantee that it will be really good, plus I don't think it would hurt at all to have a second, differently-themed shooter. I'm thinking a sci-fi or spy FPS.
Also, while we're on the topic of games, it's pretty cool to hear in the IGN Madden interview that EA is planning to build most or all of its Revolution games from the ground up instead of porting! The downside to this is that we will probably continue to get shafted on Burnout, and possibly in the sports genre as well (I don't care much about sports, but it is a genre that Nintendo needs some help in). Still, if Nintendo can get EA making exclusive games for it, and the developers are talking about fine-tuning the control to make it feel like the player is really controlling Madden, those sound like victories to me.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 01, 2006, 06:21:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey Because that's their opinion.
A baseless, inaccurate opinion, yes.
But then again, subtract baseless opinions from the internet and all we have left is porn.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 01, 2006, 09:56:46 AM
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Originally posted by: Strell
I think it's either Dodgeball, Wedding Crashers, or Family Guy. The c'mon reference, I mean.
It's from Family Guy...
And unless Berty suddenly learned more stuff, I believe he knows a bunch of secret DS games, and that's about it...
Post by: Kairon on May 01, 2006, 10:02:44 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
Also, while we're on the topic of games, it's pretty cool to hear in the IGN Madden interview that EA is planning to build most or all of its Revolution games from the ground up instead of porting! The downside to this is that we will probably continue to get shafted on Burnout, and possibly in the sports genre as well (I don't care much about sports, but it is a genre that Nintendo needs some help in). Still, if Nintendo can get EA making exclusive games for it, and the developers are talking about fine-tuning the control to make it feel like the player is really controlling Madden, those sound like victories to me.
Actually, that's not what I heard. They always talk about having this "great codebase" so that EA Burnaby doesn't need to worry about giving it AI and whatnot. EA Burnaby seems to be handling the pure Wii-centric ports of EA's other games.
That said, we know that this is not just another port. Why? Because this group is being charged specifically with dealing with the Wii-headed versions of the games and all their concentration is on that one platform. This isn't just a coding team, but a game design team as well because of the controller features they need to adapt and build from scratch. This way, ports on the Revolution won't be using the shell, and maybe, just maybe, this EA studio will also be dedicated to code optimization for the Rev that allows it to shine graphically.
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: Ceric on May 01, 2006, 05:52:35 PM
That's what I want.
Ah... I had more to say but in the process of reading this I totally forgot.
Post by: Artimus on May 01, 2006, 06:28:52 PM
Post by: Requiem on May 01, 2006, 07:08:54 PM
It's from Southpark. Jimmy convinces the bloods and krips to get along by saying "I mean....C'mon......Come on"
Post by: IceCold on May 01, 2006, 08:54:58 PM
QuoteSame here.. that's easily my most anticipated revelation.
Originally posted by: Artimus
No one knows if Mario will be there...if he isn't, it'll be a huge disappointment for me.
Post by: Dasmos on May 02, 2006, 03:17:54 AM
QuoteSo there is no such things as reviews? Impressions? Game footage? From looking and reading all these things, I am going to agree with Mario here, it doesn't look like anything special at all, and it shouldn't be labelled as a Metroid game. But that's the opinion I have formed..
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
A baseless, inaccurate opinion, yes.
But then again, subtract baseless opinions from the internet and all we have left is porn.
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 02, 2006, 04:18:46 AM
I can't imagine what Nintendo is going to drop on us with the Wii/Revolution business, not to mention the DS and Twilight Princess. I was talking with my buddy about the possibility of Nintendo dropping the bomb on some Smash Bros. DS game that has some linkage with the Wii version. That would be so hot. 1 week and we will be enlightened!
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 02, 2006, 05:33:38 AM
I predict this year will show only Zelda for Gamecube, and very very few games for the Gameboy Advance.
The focus is going to be purely on the Wii as the headliner and the Nintendo DS as the warmup band...and it will be great.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 02, 2006, 11:19:25 AM
"And that’s where the Revolution comes in. It’s Nintendo’s big effort to get rid of that barrier and to create something that everyone can enjoy. Microsoft’s been talking about how the industry needs to reach 1 billion gamers, and as far as I can see their best efforts have been Bejewled and Zuma on Xbox Live Arcade. Sure, not everything companies do on the Revolution will be great (honestly, I’ve tried playing an FPS on it and I don’t find it an improvement over today’s controllers), but there will be some games that really show the universal appeal of the console. Friends of mine tell me Pilotwings is absolutely perfect - it’s something anyone can pick up and enjoy. Nintendo’s changing all of the rules - they’ve created an experience anyone can enjoy. They’ve created a system for everyone."
Link
Post by: Crimm on May 02, 2006, 11:35:26 AM
As exciting as that is, I expected it. I mean, from the moment they showed off the flight demo all you've heard is "PILOTWINGS!" and "NiGHTS!" changed by the choir.
The fact he leaked this game will probably get him killed by the Reginator.
Another thing in his blog I found interesting was his discussion on the scale of Nintendo's E3 conference.
Twice the size of their regular venue and "And from insiders I've spoken with, it's going to be the biggest production a game company has ever put on." Interesting.
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 02, 2006, 11:48:41 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 11:49:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Crimm
The fact he leaked this game will probably get him killed by the Reginator.
You mean "He'll be Regginated."
Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2006, 11:53:51 AM
"honestly, I’ve tried playing an FPS on it and I don’t find it an improvement over today’s controllers"
That's not too encouraging.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 11:54:59 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"honestly, I’ve tried playing an FPS on it and I don’t find it an improvement over today’s controllers"
That's not too encouraging.
He's the first person I've EVER seen say that of what must be a dozen Revmote impressions, though.
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 11:56:36 AM
Quote
Maybe because of they slip up they'll be able to fire the whiney bastard. Good riddance.
Indeed.
His comments about using it with a FPS sound ridiculous. Honestly, how can it not improve the control? I just don't see how that's possible.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2006, 11:59:22 AM
True. He may also be someone like me who really doesn't care for the mouselook control style for first person shooters. I think Goldeneye's default control scheme is perfect and that if you require aiming more precise then that then your game is too complicated. I'm well aware I'm in the minority on that though.
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 02, 2006, 12:03:45 PM
I guess we'll just have to see for ourselves, though.
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 12:03:48 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 02, 2006, 12:13:00 PM
I actually wonder if this won't happen...
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 12:40:20 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
"In the meantime, though, here's the big question I have: At Nintendo's pre-E3 press conference, who is going to be the one to start the "Change it back" chant?"
I actually wonder if this won't happen...
This is why Nintendo announced the Wii name early. They knew that if they had said it at the conference all hell would've broken loose...
Nintendo assumes that by next week everyone has gotten the anger and shock out of the system and just see the presentation.
However, I think a couple of people might say something if they don't explain the Wii further...
Who knows? maybe things will get so bad, a riot will ensue! And some maniacal fanboy will come up on stage with a gun and threaten to kill Miyamoto if Nintendo doesn't change the name back!!!! O.O
...Why do I picture Smash_Brother being that maniac fanboy? Weird...
Post by: Kairon on May 02, 2006, 12:49:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pB647PE-80
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: Hostile Creation on May 02, 2006, 12:54:53 PM
Post by: mantidor on May 02, 2006, 01:03:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I just realized it has been 10 years since the last Pilotwings game. No one can accuse Nintendo of milking THAT franchise.
"honestly, I’ve tried playing an FPS on it and I don’t find it an improvement over today’s controllers"
That's not too encouraging.
I think that the controls really depend on the developer, and he might have just played a game which hasnt perfected controls yet. The Echoes demo with the remote is universally acclaimed as really intuitive. It really depends how sensitive the remote is, and it seems is really sensitive, so the devs have to process remote signals with extreme care. It must be difficult, I imagine trying to code something like that and I get nightmares.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 01:22:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
If someone wastes my time with chanting while I'm trying to get info on Wii, I'll be very severely pissed.
Oh, I'm sure there will be some kind of control at the conference. If they see that they are constantly interrupting the presentation they will toos them out.
A disturbance, wether it is justified or not, is still a disturbance.
Post by: Ceric on May 02, 2006, 02:44:21 PM
Post by: Artimus on May 02, 2006, 02:45:12 PM
And man, that is a SMALL room compared to the Kodak!
Post by: Crimm on May 02, 2006, 04:37:59 PM
*sigh*
Only at a Nintendo conference.
Post by: bustin98 on May 02, 2006, 07:30:54 PM
Post by: Crimm on May 02, 2006, 07:53:19 PM
I have a hard time beileving they would have sunk all that money into it just to kill it after it was almost done. Wii port seems likely.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 02, 2006, 07:55:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: bustin98
I had a thought enter my head about a game I think was discussed about being moved to the Wii, and it has since dropped from the radar. I'm betting that Pennant Chase which was supposedly coming along fine for the GC and was cancelled without much reason will be at E3. Maybe there are people here who haven't forgotten about it, but its been a while since I've seen it brought up in the forum. I think the game is a natural for the system.
Pennat chase? What? Never heard of that one...
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 02, 2006, 08:22:52 PM
Another rumour to whet the appetite...IGN was hyping up an exclusive they were supposed to show tonight, but it "was pulled." On the boards in the apology thread, these two comments stand out...
"Izza Good" - Matt
"Izza gud!" - Peer
I've seen both speculation at the Mario title (though I personally don't think "It's a me" sounds like "Izza") and a Blizzard title (Blizzard? Oh my, secret letters...)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2006, 08:31:27 PM
QuoteWoW Wii, that just sounds fun
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Another rumour to whet the appetite...IGN was hyping up an exclusive they were supposed to show tonight, but it "was pulled." On the boards in the apology thread, these two comments stand out...
"Izza Good" - Matt
"Izza gud!" - Peer
I've seen both speculation at the Mario title (though I personally don't think "It's a me" sounds like "Izza") and a Blizzard title (Blizzard? Oh my, secret letters...)
MMO FTW?
Post by: Guitar Smasher on May 02, 2006, 08:35:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: pap64Quote
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
"In the meantime, though, here's the big question I have: At Nintendo's pre-E3 press conference, who is going to be the one to start the "Change it back" chant?"
I actually wonder if this won't happen...
Nintendo assumes that by next week everyone has gotten the anger and shock out of the system and just see the presentation.
BS! If they assumed that people would have to get it out of their systems, they'd realize it's horrible name.
Post by: wandering on May 02, 2006, 08:38:47 PM
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"Izza Good" - Matt
"Izza gud!" - Peer
I've seen both speculation at the Mario title (though I personally don't think "It's a me" sounds like "Izza") and a Blizzard title (Blizzard? Oh my, secret letters...)
Pizza making simulator.
Post by: The Omen on May 02, 2006, 08:40:28 PM
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..because there's never been a negative reaction to a positive move by Nintendo before. celda
'Celda' certainly didn't sell the way a 'realistic' version would have, and it certainly didn't move systems like it either.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 02, 2006, 08:44:21 PM
Post by: mantidor on May 02, 2006, 08:44:52 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 02, 2006, 08:46:45 PM
Post by: MysticGohan on May 02, 2006, 08:49:17 PM
Post by: wandering on May 02, 2006, 08:51:24 PM
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'Celda' certainly didn't sell the way a 'realistic' version would have, and it certainly didn't move systems like it either.
And yet it made for a better game, which is all that matters in that case.
With Wind Waker, Nintendo was going with a new artisistic direction that many people didn't understand. They thought the game would be worse off, but it was actually better. Now, Nintendo is going with a new marketing direction that many hardcore gamers don't understand. They think sales will be worse off, but Nintendo thinks they know better.
Not that Nintendo is anywhere near as good as marketing as they are at making good games, but that's not the point. The point is, Nintendo fans don't know anything.
...Or at least, every new direction Nitnendo takes causes an uproar, and said uproars are not good indications of whether Nintendo's new directions are good or bad.
Post by: mantidor on May 02, 2006, 08:53:18 PM
Post by: IceCold on May 02, 2006, 08:57:58 PM
Post by: Crimm on May 02, 2006, 09:09:11 PM
That said, today was the first work day they didn't update the Wii channel in a week or two. Odds are they did have a story planned. I wouldn't think Mario. I would think Nintendo would want to save that salvo for their conference.
Is they fact they are letting so much out, so close, mean they don't feel like having a ton of surprises or does it mean they have more coming that are even more Earth shattering?
Nintendo might be the only company in the world people apply reverse psychology to.
Post by: Kairon on May 02, 2006, 09:11:43 PM
I WANT MY ORCHESTRA CONDUCTING GAME BY GOOMBA!
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Crimm on May 02, 2006, 09:37:30 PM
Mad Maestro: Wii!
Post by: mantidor on May 03, 2006, 05:31:15 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 03, 2006, 05:55:31 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 03, 2006, 06:31:15 AM
If you could transfer cooking skill in the game to RL, then it's something to be excited about. Ideally, the painting game should be able to do this as well.
Post by: mantidor on May 03, 2006, 06:41:17 AM
Post by: jasonditz on May 03, 2006, 06:43:00 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 03, 2006, 08:07:05 AM
QuoteJar Jar Binks?
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion"Izza Good" - Matt
"Izza gud!" - Peer
oh god, pray it isn't ¬¬
Post by: Ian Sane on May 03, 2006, 09:02:35 AM
If they want to make a cooking game, fine. I won't buy it but if they want to make it, that's okay. Just don't give me a cooking game and say "okay there's your flagship title" or "there's the new Miyamoto IP, if you don't like it we have plently of cookie cutter sequels for you hardcore gamers". That's the vibe I get on the DS. New stuff for the non-gamers, sequels for the hardcores. I want new Miyamoto games that are made for ME. I want new games and new ideas made for people who have played games before and require some familiarity with videogames in order to play. I don't want to see all the new ideas used for cooking games and other g!mmicky junk.
Plus I would hope that a cooking game wouldn't be their best idea for the remote. I would hope they could come up with something with a little more depth to it. So it's fine as a supporting title that costs less and pads the launch lineup but not as the big title that is supposed to sell the concept and sell millions of Wii's (new problem with the name: pluralization!)
Post by: Kairon on May 03, 2006, 09:06:24 AM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Artimus on May 03, 2006, 09:19:25 AM
Post by: mantidor on May 03, 2006, 09:28:43 AM
.Post by: Hostile Creation on May 03, 2006, 09:28:44 AM
No more eating you guys, cooking is g!mmicky, we need a true sparkling innovation like what? Carrying two pistols? What the hell do you consider innovation, Ian?
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 03, 2006, 09:49:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
So cooking is g!mmicky now.
No more eating you guys, cooking is g!mmicky, we need a true sparkling innovation like what? Carrying two pistols? What the hell do you consider innovation, Ian?
DUAL-WIELD FRYING PANS!!!!! FILLET YOUR FOES WITH SIZZLING OIL VENGEANCE!!!
Post by: jasonditz on May 03, 2006, 09:49:59 AM
What I think would be cool though is a restaurant simulator where you play head chef and get to design the menu and prepare all the main dishes. Then get customer feedback and whatnot.
Frankly I don't think Nintendo should be setting out with "X is our flagship title". They should focus on making good games that are deep and replayable and compelling and let the flagship title work itself out.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 03, 2006, 10:02:47 AM
Whatever sells the most is their flagship, I suppose.
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 03, 2006, 10:20:03 AM
That is a great idea. I'm not sure I'd be interested in a cooking game (depends on the price, content), but this sounds interesting.
Post by: The Omen on May 03, 2006, 11:13:42 AM
How about a restaurant game which mimics the game mechanics of Aerobiz for the NES. You control everything about the resturant, and you incorporate the cooking games into it to. Most tables served, first course the quickest, who gets desert out quicker. By all of these mini games, you build a buzz about your restaurant, anabling you to expand your business.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on May 03, 2006, 11:42:27 AM
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Post by: jasonditz on May 03, 2006, 01:07:52 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 03, 2006, 01:10:30 PM
I would base the game off of the Iron Chef America series, and have the original Iron Chef Japanese chefs be either hidden Iron Chefs, or a end of game surprise.
The game would have to be well researched by actual chefs, and get the Bobby Flay and all the chefs to help design menus, food available, and how to use ingredients.
Finally, Judges need to created from real judges, to game editors, to fictional people...all with a unique taste pallette so that you need to learn how to cook for the judges as well.
The best thing about this would be a Random battle generator that will allow you to pick up the game and play a quick battle.
Seriously, this could be a killer APP right here, because the game has huge possibilities and with the pace of the show it wouldn't be a slow game at all.
Post by: Renny on May 03, 2006, 06:41:52 PM
Post by: wandering on May 03, 2006, 11:30:25 PM
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Damn you wandering! I thought of the pizza thing as a part of the cooking game
I'm a kleptoideamaniac. (Did you really? I don't remember.)
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I want new Miyamoto games that are made for ME.
Eh. First off, Nintendogs, like all Miyamoto games, was brilliant. Second off, Nintendo's design philosophy for portables is different than their design philosophy for consoles.
Anyway. Cooking game. Good. Yes.
Post by: Kairon on May 03, 2006, 11:32:49 PM
And seriously, how many of you garden? Do you think Miyamoto made Pikmin for YOU?
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on May 04, 2006, 06:01:48 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
And seriously, how many of you garden? Do you think Miyamoto made Pikmin for YOU?
Pikmin isn't about gardening. It's about controlling an army of ant-carrots in a battle against time and ant-carrot-ivores. It was inspired by a garden, but that doesn't mean it's a game for gardeners. Considering how much I liked Pikmin, yes, I'd say Miyamoto made it for me.
Post by: Louieturkey on May 04, 2006, 06:29:53 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 07, 2006, 08:08:32 PM
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 08:17:41 PM
I wonder who is making it....
Post by: IceCold on May 07, 2006, 08:28:37 PM
EDIT: And I would like to commend Bill for keeping that in this thread
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 08:35:34 PM
Supposedly.....Link
Post by: Crimm on May 07, 2006, 09:11:16 PM
Post by: Kairon on May 07, 2006, 09:18:39 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Falafelkid claims that an exclusive Star Wars game is in development for Wii, and that it will be revealed on Tuesday...Lightsabers and all...
Please excuse me while I hyperventilate. *ahem*
.....
Okay, soooo.... yeah.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: wandering on May 07, 2006, 09:20:55 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 07, 2006, 09:35:16 PM
Post by: Requiem on May 07, 2006, 09:40:13 PM
I would LOVE to hear lightsaber noises come from the controller as I idly move it around, and I'm not a star wars fan at all.
"Vhooom, Vhoom"
Post by: couchmonkey on May 08, 2006, 10:06:17 AM
Post by: joedick on May 08, 2006, 10:10:22 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 10:18:57 AM
Ah f*ck.
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 10:28:28 AM
hahaha..............
WAIT!
Does this mean TP won't come out till Wii Launch?
NO!!!!!!!!
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 10:28:57 AM
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Originally posted by: joedick
Apparently "Zelda Wii Swordfighting" was announced this morning.
I feel like killing someone...
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 10:51:26 AM
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 10:53:46 AM
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 11:17:09 AM
It's not Zelda: Swordfighting the game. That makes it sound like a seperate fighting type game. What it really is is Zelda, the zelda you know and love, with Wiimote sword-fighting.
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 08, 2006, 11:23:51 AM
Post by: mantidor on May 08, 2006, 11:25:38 AM
I should wait to know what this damn game is about... still... what the hell are they doing with the franchise? ARGH...
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 11:28:08 AM
Just cause you played the games does that make you Miyamoto? Does that make you Aunoma? No, so STFU!
Your bitching doesn't even make sense!
Paladin - it's TP
Post by: zakkiel on May 08, 2006, 11:45:04 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 12:02:00 PM
I assume this is a new title. Or at least it BETTER be. I want the REAL Zelda game I was promised on the Cube. At the very least give me that.
If this is just Twilight Princess then I assume it's some special mini-game or mode or something like that. Considering the amount of effort that would have gone into making the full fledged Cube game with dungeons and such I doubt they would cast it away to make a sword fighting game. They better not have moved Twilight Princess to the Wii though. We were promised one last hurrah with the "traditional" Zelda and my wallet stays closed if I don't get it.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 08, 2006, 12:05:58 PM
"We were promised one last hurrah with the "traditional" Zelda and my wallet stays closed if I don't get it."
Please think before you press "Reply." You won't HAVE to play the game with Wii controls... -_-
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 12:07:18 PM
It's naive to think that this is just some dungeon and not a new control scheme. This isn't a new title, this is Zelda TP. Honestly, do you think Nintendo can develop TP, PH, and this new title while juggling the rest of their duties. That's high unlikely.
Also, I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to make this a full-fledged Wii game. Sure that's shady, and I would be pretty pissed as well, but then again I am buying a Wii so my anger only goes so far. However, Miyamoto has stated it over and over again: TP is a Gamecube title, and as such, it will play with a gamecube controller. So like Bill said, you don't have to play it with the Wiimote.
(Though why the hell not? Your crazy if you don't realize the potential here)
Post by: zakkiel on May 08, 2006, 12:09:09 PM
QuoteIan, have you not paid the slightest attention to TP news in the last three months? It has been thoroughly confirmed that it will have two sets of controls, one for the Cube and one for the Wii. You can stop lamenting now.
I assume this is a new title. Or at least it BETTER be. I want the REAL Zelda game I was promised on the Cube. At the very least give me that.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 12:12:55 PM
No. But the game minus the Wii controls should still be the epic awesome mega supercool traditional Zelda we were promised. If it isn't, if the Cube game is comprimised because of this Wii stuff, then I'm going to be pissed. It's not just as simple as "don't play it on the Wii then".
"Ian, have you not paid the slightest attention to TP news in the last three months?"
Well no actually. I've been trying to avoid spoilers. The wording on the IGN blog suggested to me a new game. Like Zelda Swordfighter is the next Zelda project after Twilight Princess. Though thinking about it now they probably mean TP.
Post by: zakkiel on May 08, 2006, 12:15:54 PM
QuoteAnd how would this happen, exactly?
No. But the game minus the Wii controls should still be the epic awesome mega supercool traditional Zelda we were promised. If it isn't, if the Cube game is comprimised because of this Wii stuff, then I'm going to be pissed. It's not just as simple as "don't play it on the Wii then".
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 12:17:20 PM
Has there been a single image, screenshot, gameply footage, or impression that has mispleased anybody?!
Your statements are unfounded.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 12:22:55 PM
It's been discussed to death. The short version is that a really awesome game (like Zelda usually is) is so tightly designed that the levels and enemies and items are all designed to interact perfectly with the controls. Having two completely different control schemes screws this up. They have to make things more generic so that they can plug one of two completely different control schemes into any given scenario. Any little detail that would only work with one of the controller options would have to be removed. Unless the whole game is completely different depending on the controller used but that's an insane amount of work and I would be really surprised if Nintendo did that.
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 12:26:34 PM
Post by: UncleBob on May 08, 2006, 12:28:11 PM
Post by: stevey on May 08, 2006, 12:44:55 PM
For: Nintendo Wii not wii/gc
Genre: Action not action/adv
Comment: Next-generation Zelda is on the way. Nope, I don't have a screenshot, but Nintendo annouced it this morning. "
NOT TP, that is what the new zelda rev game turn into and not tp so stop your bitching. This only has the name zelda since nintendo is way too lazy to make up a new IP to be a swordfighting game like MP:H being a fps and DDR mario.
Post by: Guitar Smasher on May 08, 2006, 12:46:10 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 12:51:22 PM
Although it was never translated Tetra's Trackers is supposed to be pretty bleh.
A few years ago I would have trusted Nintendo to never screw up a Zelda game. But in the last few years they've demonstrated to me that Nintendo IPs don't mean anything anymore and that they just see them as "brandnames" to throw on the box for any old game to help it sell. Metroid wasn't spared so I see no reason why Zelda would be.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 08, 2006, 12:55:15 PM
Have you played it? No? Okay, then you can't comment on it...(Plus it was included with Four Swords Adventures, and it was NOT a stand-alone product)
Stop trying to dig for complaints at the bottom of your empty complaint barrel...
Post by: IceCold on May 08, 2006, 12:56:04 PM
Post by: Guitar Smasher on May 08, 2006, 12:57:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Has Nintendo ever made a sub-par Zelda?"
Although it was never translated Tetra's Trackers is supposed to be pretty bleh.
I know you're not actually comparing Tetra's Trackers to TP, but don't even make that comment. TP is a full-fledged Zelda. TT is a mini-game. When you find a valid reason for justifying your worries, share it.
And in my opinion, Nintendo would never use Zelda like Metroid. It's debatable, but that's just how I perceive it.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2006, 12:57:47 PM
Some people imported Four Swords Adventures so that they could get Tetra's Trackers and the generally opinion was that it wasn't worth it. I remember at the time hearing reports from people who did play it.
Post by: obscureownership on May 08, 2006, 01:01:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Has Nintendo ever made a sub-par Zelda?"
Although it was never translated Tetra's Trackers is supposed to be pretty bleh.
A few years ago I would have trusted Nintendo to never screw up a Zelda game. But in the last few years they've demonstrated to me that Nintendo IPs don't mean anything anymore and that they just see them as "brandnames" to throw on the box for any old game to help it sell. Metroid wasn't spared so I see no reason why Zelda would be.
What do you mean past few years?
I already know what you are going to say, yeah, those aren't Nintendo games. But you should expect, depending on how much effort they put into each game, how good it's going to be.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 08, 2006, 01:02:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion Stop trying to dig for complaints at the bottom of your empty complaint barrel...
Ha! You think the complain barrel even HAS a bottom?
As for the topic, yes, TP has been molested by the Revmote, including the "Scratch the Goron's Nose" minigame which will be required to finish the game, only it will be impossible with the GC controller.
Time to retaliate. Let's all go flip over some cars...
Post by: Crimm on May 08, 2006, 01:07:40 PM
Think of it this way, there is STILL Twilight Princess for you to play if you don't want to play the Wii exclusive action title.
Oh, and I've played Tetra Trackers, and it is kinda fun. Sure it wasn't "traditional Zelda" but it was still enjoyable. You can use your universe in different genre effectively, you just have to put effort into it.
Post by: denjet78 on May 08, 2006, 01:22:31 PM
Anyway, I'll believe it when I see an official announcement from Nintendo. Beyond that I'm going to assume that this is just TP.
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 01:39:14 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Please don't make it be a a new Zelda Wii spinoff game. Please. Please..
Im with you on this one!
Post by: ShyGuy on May 08, 2006, 02:22:38 PM
Post by: SixthAngel on May 08, 2006, 02:34:10 PM
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 02:44:40 PM
Post by: Crimm on May 08, 2006, 03:27:47 PM
Their cover story is TP on Wii (that sounds dirty).
They conduct an interview with Eiji Aonuma and Shigeru Miyamoto.
Here are some notes I've been able to gain (from the little I can read):
1. They have an image that compares how it looks now to last year. If you thought it was pretty then, now it blows last year away.
2. The FHC DOES seem have a small speaker in it. Think about gunshot sounds each time you pull the trigger coming FROM your controller, lightsaber hum as you swing it. Sweet Sweet immersion.
3. One header reads "We haven't quite found what the 'hook' should be with online play." This comes from Eiji Aonuma, responding to EGM's questions. I don't know the context or what that answer means, but I'm sure we'll find out tomorrow.
Post by: Requiem on May 08, 2006, 03:37:34 PM
Revo-Europe
Post by: Crimm on May 08, 2006, 03:48:55 PM
Like I said, I can't read the actual text (only headlines and giant excerpts like that one) so I don't have any context.
Post by: King of Twitch on May 08, 2006, 04:05:51 PM
I'VE GOT NOTHING TO LIVE FOR IN THE NEXT 6 MONTHS NOTHING
*STABS SELF*
Post by: SixthAngel on May 08, 2006, 04:10:08 PM
Post by: OverHeat on May 08, 2006, 04:55:30 PM
All I can say, is what one, small red headed girl once said, fellas.
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun!
Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs,
And the sorrow
'Til there's none!
When I'm stuck a day
That's gray,
And lonely,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow!
Tomorrow!
I love ya
Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way!
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow!
Tomorrow!
I love ya
Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way!
Tomorrow!
Tomorrow!
I love ya
Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way!
Seriously, how about we wait until /after/ we get the REAL news, eh? Ever since the name of the system was announced, it seems there are alot more disenting views about what is going on with Wii games. All of the sudden what everyone was hailing as fresh and new is already being bashed for things that we dont even know to be true or not, or even to what extent they /are/ true. I dont know why I am even bothering with this, but why dont you guys add a few years to your lives and follow my lead, hmm? Go about your normal/not-so-normal lives find things to do /other/ than posting, and just sit back with a bowl of popcorn infront of the monitor for the next few days. Let the show pass, mull it in your brain for a little while and see what you think then, hmm?
I am suprised more of you havent noticed this yet. Since there was talk of a cooking game earlier, lets use that for an anology. If you are sitting in a restaraunt and the waiter gives you a a sickeningly undercooked chicken with some garnish thrown around on the plate; what are you going to think of the cooks ability to cook? Well, throwing your thoughts out before you've given yourself some time to think them through is the same thing.
You throw us a half-assed baked chicken. What are we supposed to do? What are we supposed to think? I love the defense of "its my opinion!" You know what? I have no problem with opinions. But how about you give yourself a little time to think out your opinion, give it reasons for its existence in your mind so that we can at least /try/ to see where you are coming from. Saying; "ITS MY OPINION HOW DARE YOU!" Is kinda like "IT IS GODS WILL HOW DARE YOU!" only....with alot less killing afterwards. I think you will find yourself defending your opinions from others alot less if they are well thought out, clearly expressed ones. The people that will ,"talk crap"as it were, you'll find yourself alot less inclined to respond to as their comments will seem highly foolish and trivial.
Now, a sincere apology to the original poster for that completely off topic bit! Allow me to throw my topic-related 2-cents in here. I am really interested in the new Dragon Warrior game announced. ALREADY I am hearing people whine about it, but dear God, we know NOTHING about it! I love me some Dragon Quest, so I am looking forward to that. There really isnt anything else to comment on as far as Wii is concerned at the show. Probably because...well... the show hasn't STARTED yet. However... There is that rumor about the Lightsaber game that has been going around. Seeing it on a blog does nothing for me hope-wise or in any other way. Lets just say that, before this posting, I already had high hopes that this title would be announced. Now I am hearing all kinds of stuff that the controller will have a small mic in it? I wonder if people are taking this out of context, and it's like the DS mic, an input mic? Or is it a two way? Or, are there two mics? Or is it really just a simple mic to throw out sound effects, etc.? You know, I cant wait to see what other suprises come our way this week. Count me in as EXCITED!
Post by: trip1eX on May 08, 2006, 05:05:21 PM
Post by: OverHeat on May 08, 2006, 05:10:48 PM
Post by: Guitar Smasher on May 08, 2006, 05:38:52 PM
Post by: The Omen on May 08, 2006, 06:18:02 PM
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Now, a sincere apology to the original poster for that completely off topic bit! Allow me to throw my topic-related 2-cents in here. I am really interested in the new Dragon Warrior game announced.
Dragon Warrior, eh? I think we may see that IP resurrected now that I think about it....
Post by: IceCold on May 08, 2006, 07:33:30 PM
QuoteSanity Effect.. the controller lets out a piercing wail
Originally posted by: OverHeat
Really? Well, I cant wait to hear the official scoop. Even if that is right on the money, that is COOL. Lightsabers humming and guns firing, sword clanging, the sound of your sword silcing through the wind if you miss... After playing the greatest "screw-with-you-mind" game ever created (Eternal Darkness) it makes me wonder how that mic might be able to be used in a horror type game to screw with the player? >=)
Post by: zakkiel on May 08, 2006, 08:21:24 PM
My belief that this game might actually see the light of day just rose three notches.
Post by: wandering on May 08, 2006, 08:51:37 PM
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"Zelda Wii Swordfighting not zelda tp swordfighting
For: Nintendo Wii not wii/gc
Genre: Action not action/adv
Comment: Next-generation Zelda is on the way. Nope, I don't have a screenshot, but Nintendo annouced it this morning. "
Yeah, this doesn't sound like a very good idea.
I want a horse-racing Zelda spin-off instead
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 19, 2006, 09:24:49 AM
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The latest issue of US magazine EGM has some interesting rumours within its pages. First of all it backs up the talk of a sequel to Sega's Nights coming (although does not confirm a format), then there will be an all-new look for the next Need for Speed titles, and finally it states that Virtua Cop will be ported to Nintendo Wii!
I believe in the NiGHTS rumor, but this is the first I've heard of Virtua Cop Wii. Not that I'm surprised, cause I actually expect all and every Light gun arcade game to be ported and/or sequeled onto the Wii.
the only ones I can think of off the top of my head:
Sega - Virtua Cop and House of the Dead
Namco - Time Crisis and that mini-game shooter(shoot target & ducks and stuff)
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 19, 2006, 10:53:59 AM
If Namco made a Time Crisis collection then the world would be perfect.
Post by: IceCold on May 19, 2006, 01:43:05 PM
