Post by: SS4Gogita on April 28, 2006, 05:12:23 PM
In an interview with IGN today, EA Canada's head honcho John Schappert indirectly confrimed on two separate occasions that the Wii's nunchuck attachment does indeed include an accelerometer and will even be used in the game.
IGN Wii: Does you use the trigger buttons on the nunchuck unit?
John Schappert: You know, the buttons are all still being mapped out. It does use the trigger buttons right now. I don't know how much we'll have locked in for you at E3 because we are still working on the final button layout, but it does use the trigger buttons, and it does use the accelerometer in the nunchuck unit as well for juking.
IGN Wii: Perfect. Could you just for clarification purposes give us an idea of how a typical play might work using the controllers?
John Schappert: So, you take the controller, jerk it up to snap. Quarterback now has the ball. Your passing icons are now up. Take the wand controller and you'll see that the four directions on its D-Pad represent four of your receivers; the A button is your fifth receiver. Point to one of those receivers that you want to receive the ball and with your hand gesture a throwing motion to pass. Now, the harder you throw, the more that's going to be a bullet pass. The softer and the more you lob a throw, the more that it's going to be a lob. When you receive the ball, you run with the analog stick on the nunchuck and if you want to juke, you use the nunchuck to gesture it. And if you want to stiff-arm, you use the wand.
Schappert also confirmed that an online mode was being worked on and should be ready by the launch of Wii. You can check out the full interview by clicking here.
Post by: AManatee2 on April 28, 2006, 05:53:47 PM
this sounds freaking awesome.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 28, 2006, 05:59:18 PM
Post by: Artimus on April 28, 2006, 06:05:18 PM
This could be such an amazing E3. I particularly like how he said the Tiberion team were impressed with the Wii's graphics.
Post by: Dasmos on April 28, 2006, 06:09:39 PM
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Post by: EasyCure on April 28, 2006, 06:31:15 PM
and F*CK im pissed. i just finished reading that interview for the hell of it to see if EA actually was doing something unique for Wii and thought that maybe PGC didnt catch it (since no one here seems to care about EA) and had something new to bring to the table. i was on earlier today and this wasnt updated so i was stoked...now i feel like a fool
i hope thats not nintendos "one final secret that will blow you away" cuz even though its good news, its not particularly mind blowing. if they anounced that before the motiong sensing controls of the remote, then it would of been better news.
Post by: Jensen on April 28, 2006, 06:37:07 PM
Each hand controlling two sets of directional controls seems overly complicated.
Post by: Artimus on April 28, 2006, 06:53:52 PM
Post by: trip1eX on April 28, 2006, 06:59:56 PM
Also the beauty of the gyros in the nunchuk is the functionality is invisible to the beginner. It keeps everything looking simple while underneath there's a lot of functionality if needed.
Basically putting this stuff in the nunchuk gives it the potential functionality of at least another 4 buttons or so. Alot more if it can also do gestures.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 28, 2006, 07:17:33 PM
(Where are you, ruby_onix?
)
Post by: Shecky on April 28, 2006, 07:27:45 PM
The nunchuk isn't as precise but I sounds like it can detect some basic movement, which could be used in clever ways.
FPS: Keep you gun trained in a location as you use the nunchuk to open and/or push open a door. Such an action doesn't need precision.
Post by: Shecky on April 28, 2006, 07:29:44 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Oh yeah, 480p confirmed in that interview...
(Where are you, ruby_onix?
Was it ever in question? I mean it had no doubt that I could do it... The big question would be how hard Nintendo makes getting the darn cables again.
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I mean it had no doubt that I could do it.... should be
I mean I had no doubt that it could do it ... wait that should be
I mean I had no doubt that Wii could do it...
Post by: Caliban on April 28, 2006, 07:32:52 PM
Post by: ATimson on April 28, 2006, 07:34:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Shecky
The big question would be how hard Nintendo makes getting the darn cables again.
Seeing as how they've been using the same AV cables for three systems, I suspect that it'll use the same digital out as the GameCube had. So, for you, getting the cables will be quite easy.
Post by: Shecky on April 28, 2006, 07:45:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Shecky
The big question would be how hard Nintendo makes getting the darn cables again.
Seeing as how they've been using the same AV cables for three systems, I suspect that it'll use the same digital out as the GameCube had. So, for you, getting the cables will be quite easy.
That would make my day... although I expect that they plan on marrying the two cables. Standard A/V and Component. Having two ports just adds cost. The D connector has 22 pins which should be enough to carry both types of video and sound.
What that means is that I envision having to buy another cable, as the GCN cable only has video (I expect a Wii version that has video and audio)
Diagram of what I expect:
D Connector <-----> Composite (Yellow RCA), SVideo, Audio (Red/White RCA); I expect that to be bundled likely.
D Connector <-----> Component (Blue,Green,Red RCA), Audio (Red,White RCA)
Edit: The GCN version of the cable has also been discontinued... this could be b/c the future Wii version of the cable will work with the GCN, but not the other way around.
Post by: Jensen on April 28, 2006, 07:55:58 PM
Post by: Shecky on April 28, 2006, 07:59:10 PM
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I'd like cables without a proprietary connector, so I can just use my own.
They use it to save money (and space).
Post by: Griffin on April 28, 2006, 08:34:53 PM
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Edit: The GCN version of the cable has also been discontinued... this could be b/c the future Wii version of the cable will work with the GCN, but not the other way around.
Actually, I don't think they are. I just got some myself about a month ago. However, they were backordered for like 3-4 months (they gave me a sweet discount, which ended up being cheaper /w tax and shipping than the original pre-tax/shipping price), so it's possible they discontinued it AFTER I had placed my order.
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 28, 2006, 10:27:54 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on April 28, 2006, 10:50:38 PM
I googled it, and hot DAMN am I excited now, and it's in the nunchuck one, no less!
When did rumours of this device even start anyway? I had never heard of it till now.
Post by: ruby_onix on April 28, 2006, 11:05:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Shecky
Was it ever in question?
After getting burned twice by Revolution resolution assumptions (HDTV and SVGA, not counting the holograms), I thought people were a little too quick to jump all over the remaining best-case scenerio. Especially with there being question marks around the issue (the single undefined output port, and Nintendo's half-hearted GameCube-era support).
I wanted specs before I'd accept it as fact. But people like Bill said specs didn't matter, and that I should turn in my Nintendo Fanboy Card if I didn't automatically believe the best things about Nintendo.
I find it funny that EA was the one to finally confirm it, not Nintendo. Maybe a few days before Nintendo might've given us some limited specs.
And in case I haven't met my negativity quota for the week...
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IGN Wii: You mentioned that Madden runs in progressive-scan and widescreen modes. Is this something you've been encouraged to do by Nintendo or are these visual options you have pursued on your own?
John Schappert: I won't say that Nintendo so much encourages us. Any help we ask for it certainly gives us. That's just something we're doing.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 29, 2006, 03:39:42 AM
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/703/703700p1.html
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 29, 2006, 04:52:22 AM
The thing was that it WAS confirmed, don't use this "because I'm not a fanboy" bull****, thanks...
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 29, 2006, 04:56:00 AM
"Here are some excellent games"
"But this system is not as powerful as I had hoped so I will not play them"
And I'll throw sand at them.
Post by: Shecky on April 29, 2006, 05:17:34 AM
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Edit: The GCN version of the cable has also been discontinued... this could be b/c the future Wii version of the cable will work with the GCN, but not the other way around.
Actually, I don't think they are. I just got some myself about a month ago. However, they were backordered for like 3-4 months (they gave me a sweet discount, which ended up being cheaper /w tax and shipping than the original pre-tax/shipping price), so it's possible they discontinued it AFTER I had placed my order.
I was just there, going to try and pick it up for a relative...
Consider yourself under the wire... component cable discontinued
Post by: KDR_11k on April 29, 2006, 05:56:14 AM
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 29, 2006, 07:28:04 AM
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Termin8: Just so you don't misunderstand anything, whenever Nintendo used a "gyroscope" they really used accellerometers. People only called them gyroscopes because that's a term more people understand.
Clearly they don't understand it, or they wouldn't be calling accellerometers gyroscopes.
One thing about the controls seems unclear. In one quote, he says you point at the intended receiver, and in another, he says you hold down the button for that receiver. The first way sounds like a better way to me, but if it can't tell which receiver you're aiming at by the angle of the throwing motion, then pointing at him and then throwing might be too slow, and the buttons would work better. I wish IGN had asked for clarification when he contradicted himself there.
Post by: OverHeat on April 29, 2006, 07:30:07 AM
*cries*
Post by: EasyCure on April 29, 2006, 08:03:54 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Termin8: Just so you don't misunderstand anything, whenever Nintendo used a "gyroscope" they really used accellerometers. People only called them gyroscopes because that's a term more people understand.
Clearly they don't understand it, or they wouldn't be calling accellerometers gyroscopes.
One thing about the controls seems unclear. In one quote, he says you point at the intended receiver, and in another, he says you hold down the button for that receiver. The first way sounds like a better way to me, but if it can't tell which receiver you're aiming at by the angle of the throwing motion, then pointing at him and then throwing might be too slow, and the buttons would work better. I wish IGN had asked for clarification when he contradicted himself there.
i was under the impression that you select the receiver with the dpad/a button (the reciever will be highlighted) and then you 'throw' the ball to them with a motioned swing.
Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2006, 08:12:45 AM
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Holy wow... now we know the controller has /two/ motion sensors AND can tell how fast I am moving the controller?
No...acceleration and velocity are NOT the same thing. It measures motion, not speed.
Post by: AnyoneEB on April 29, 2006, 09:53:18 AM
Still, this means that, in effect, revmote+nunchuk = controller with 3 analog sticks (revmote, nunchuk, nunchuk analog stick).
Post by: KDR_11k on April 29, 2006, 10:59:17 AM
Anyone: AFAIK accellerometers can be solid state while Gyroscopes cannot so you won't see actual gyroscopes in the controller, a configuration of two parallel accelerometers should be able to perform the same function as one gyroscope (by comparing the measured force vectors at e.g. the front and back of the rod), in addition to spotting movement along the axis as well.
Post by: TrueNerd on April 29, 2006, 11:19:31 AM
Post by: IceCold on April 29, 2006, 11:30:43 AM
Also, I like the fact that EA Canada is working on it. Most of the EA in-house developed franchises I like (SSX, NBA Street, Fight Night, FIFA, NHL, etc) are developed by them, so it's good to see them taking the NRC seriously.
Post by: AnyoneEB on April 29, 2006, 12:16:53 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on April 29, 2006, 01:16:09 PM
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The thing was that it WAS confirmed, don't use this "because I'm not a fanboy" bull****, thanks...
Just like how SVGA support was "confirmed"?
IGN
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Q: Will Revolution hook up to a television?
A: Yes. It will also be able to interface with a computer monitor. In June 2004 Nintendo engineer Genyo Takeda said: "You'll be able to play [Revolution] not just by linking up to a television but to a computer monitor as well."
"480p standard" is what NOA's PR reps were saying while trying to spin the no-HD fiasco. Please excuse me if I don't put a lot of faith in that.
And it turns out I was wrong anyways. Shiggy apparently said "480p standard" in an interview a while later.
Of course, this turned out to be wrong anyways, as EA is clearly saying that it's not standard.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on April 29, 2006, 02:28:26 PM
Wii!!
Post by: IceCold on April 29, 2006, 03:23:21 PM
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Post by: EasyCure on April 29, 2006, 08:26:39 PM
sheild in one hand and sword in the other would work better this way. i can imagine it in Zelda for instance.
hold z1 to lock onto an enemy and be able to strafe around it.
hold z2 while in lock-on mode to interperet hand motions to the sheild to either raise, lower or even push with.
for example say an enemy comes close enough to be able to just push them away with you sheild, then slash at them while they're reeling.
only reason i would want to have a button to press while i jerk the nunchauku around is because i've yet to buy a comfortable gaming chair and resort to using a folding chair. i squirm around alot and wouldnt want weird, random sheild movement when i dont need it.
on second thought maybe a button can be used to simply draw your sheild period. you wouldnt have to hold it down. just like B was the button to draw links sword, a z trigger could draw your sheild and movements in the nunchauku would then be reflected in game while the sheild is drawn. without the sheild more moves could be added. (roll, backflip, sidestep, etc)
Post by: KDR_11k on April 29, 2006, 11:01:03 PM
Post by: cubist on April 30, 2006, 12:57:23 AM
Let the smack talkin' begin...
Post by: wandering on April 30, 2006, 04:24:50 AM
Post by: AnyoneEB on April 30, 2006, 12:27:34 PM
KDR_11k: Yeah, I realised that when discussing this in another thread.
