Post by: eljefe on April 27, 2006, 08:47:40 PM
PARENTS: both approaching 50, never liked videogames. My dad did watch a whole game of FIFA once. Haven't told them anything about the Wii. I'll just let them play it.
SISTER: 25, used to play (especially fighting, racing, sports games). She was the one who turned on the NES when we got it. Haven't told her anything about the Wii. I'll just let her play first as well, she's a SHOW ME type.
BRO #1: 24, used to buy and play games(same genres as my sis, also he loves any game with Link) Still plays MarioKart 64 and SSBM if he has a minute. He still rents games occasionally. Hates complicated controls so I kept him up to date with all breaking news about Rev. Just emailed him about the Wii name news. He said, "Nice, maybe Wii should get it!" He's been sold on the concept since heard about the 8 press demos, and the news about Spiderman 3 on it. The name doesn't affect his decision at all.
BRO #2: 22, still actively buys and plays videogames (he'll play anything but FPS and turnbased RPG) Sadly, his favourite games are all EA SPORTS games. I know it hurts. He really likes good graphics. He is also image conscious. So when he sees screens and videos of 360 or ps3 he gets hyped (just like he did when he saw xbox and ps2), but when he PLAYS Nintendo consoles he says, "For $200? This is enough graphics." Like I said tho he's all image conscious, so when he heard about the revmote and saw it he was not interested. As he heard more especially how it could change old genres he likes, he was gradually sold. I told him about the Wii and he said, "As long as its not purple...What are Nintendo doing?" I quickly smoothed that over by telling him the overshadowed news of the day: Madden's control scheme. He was hyped about being able throw side-armed. He'll be sold solid when he plays it or sees videos of it.
that's my immediate fam anyway, I'll update later with friends who are mostly Sony lovers or "casual" gamers.
Post by: Dasmos on April 27, 2006, 08:52:17 PM
Post by: ThePerm on April 27, 2006, 08:56:30 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 08:59:57 PM
And that, without any game announcements or anything. Haven't gotten the chance to mention the name Wii yet.
My father (mid forties): I haven't really told him about it at all. I suspect he'd like playing Wii with me and my family, though. He beat my high score on the bob-omb slingshot game in Mario 64 DS on his first try, but that's all I think he's gamed for a long time.
Haven't told him about Wii, even the concept. I probably will sometime soon.
My sister (sixteen): Pretty casual gamer, she likes games (particularly cute ones, loves Pikmin and Kirby Air Ride) and plays with me fairly often. Less often on her own, though I have seen her playing my DS from time to time. Loves the DS, seems really excited for Wii.
I told her about the name Wii and she seemed to really like it.
I'll do a friend profile later. I can say that most of them are enthusiastic, though; five of my friends own a DS.
Overall pretty good news, though. Cool to hear about your brother liking the sound of Madden, that's great news.
Post by: MysticGohan on April 27, 2006, 09:01:59 PM
Post by: obscureownership on April 27, 2006, 09:09:05 PM
Parent #2(Mom): She came up to me and asked why Dad was yelling, and then I told her that Nintendo's next console is going to be called "Nintendo Wii," after she learned of this, she preformed ritualistic suicide.
Parent #3(Frenchy McFrencherson): I told him about the name and he really liked it.
Okay, I'm lying guys. I didn't really tell my parents anything.
Post by: mantidor on April 27, 2006, 09:21:14 PM
I feel the same is going to happen with everyone.
The concept is awesome, the games will be awesome and everyone will like the rev, but everyone will also agree that the official name is stupid.
The more I think about it the name will do nothing to break or make the console, so the only possible explanation for it is that Nintendo wanted to piss of everyone.
Post by: eljefe on April 27, 2006, 09:25:14 PM
Quotecool
Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
My mother (early forties): seems sold on the concept of the Wii, and I didn't even talk to her about it that much. She's been a very casual gamer before (she liked Wave Race and the original Mario Bros), but definitely not recently. She wants a DS of her own now. When I told her about the Wii (then Revolution) she got really interested and says she'd like to get one of her own.
And that, without any game announcements or anything. Haven't gotten the chance to mention the name Wii yet.
My father (mid forties): I haven't really told him about it at all. I suspect he'd like playing Wii with me and my family, though. He beat my high score on the bob-omb slingshot game in Mario 64 DS on his first try, but that's all I think he's gamed for a long time.
Haven't told him about Wii, even the concept. I probably will sometime soon.
My sister (sixteen): Pretty casual gamer, she likes games (particularly cute ones, loves Pikmin and Kirby Air Ride) and plays with me fairly often. Less often on her own, though I have seen her playing my DS from time to time. Loves the DS, seems really excited for Wii.
I told her about the name Wii and she seemed to really like it.
I'll do a friend profile later. I can say that most of them are enthusiastic, though; five of my friends own a DS.
Overall pretty good news, though. Cool to hear about your brother liking the sound of Madden, that's great news.
If I had a DS I think the hype machine would be in full swing. My oldest bro wanted a DS for his fiance' after he heard about Nintendogs (in the news). That didn't pan out tho. We might split the cost of a DS Lite when it hit NA.
But my Madden-loving brother, I honestly thought, if anyone who had planned to buy it would give up on it because its now named Wii, it would be him. But, the name seems to be really inconsequential to people outside of the swirling hype/hate vortex that is the Innanet.
Post by: eljefe on April 27, 2006, 09:29:37 PM
Quotetrue
Originally posted by: mantidor
I told my brother, he hated the name, but told me "thats the console you move your hands and all, right? thats so nice, stupid name though"
I feel the same is going to happen with everyone.
The concept is awesome, the games will be awesome and everyone will like the rev, but everyone will also agree that the official name is stupid.
The more I think about it the name will do nothing to break or make the console, so the only possible explanation for it is that Nintendo wanted to piss of everyone.
I tried to explain what the press release said to my 22-yearold brother while driving. We stopped at a red light, he paused and said, "There's no two ways around it: its a dumb name." Then he started laughing.
So yeah everyone knows it could've been "better".
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 09:35:33 PM
I'm enjoying that, at least. Nintendo knows fun.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2006, 09:39:37 PM
My mom asked if I ever tried not to be into Wii, just find the right girl and get all this crazy nonsense out of my head.
My dad got mad and said he was going to buy me a frilly pink tutu
My sister was really accepting of me coming out about Wii and said her roommate had a friend who was into Wii too, she is going to introduce us.
Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 05:18:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I think it's good that it's making people laugh.
I'm enjoying that, at least. Nintendo knows fun.
Thats really the only redeeming factor I see here. Thanks god I know english and I got to know what "wee" means thanks to all this uproar, because if I was just hearing it from a "spanish" point of view I wouldnt have laughed at all.
Post by: capamerica on April 28, 2006, 05:33:01 AM
Note: None of my family members are gamers, they are the exact audience Nintendo would be aiming at. I also asked each of them one on one so their opinion wouldn't be effected by others.
1. What do you think of when you hear the word "Wee"?
2. What do you think of when the word "wee" is spelled "Wii"
3. What would you think/do if (insert brand name appliance) was called the Wii?
My results:
For Question 1 everyone one first thought of "We" as in You and Me
For Question 2 I got a mix, But No one thought of "We"
All three sisters all thought of going the bathroom
My Mom though some one mis-spelled it
My Dad though it was baby talk.
For Question 3
All three of my sisters said the same thing again and thought it would be very stupid and none of them would pick up a system called the "Wii" they found the name to be very childish and a over all joke.
My Mom thinks you should be worried that it might mean something else in another country. And also thought it was a very silly name.
My Dad thought at first maybe it was something in Roman Numerals or Maybe something very small, But he also stated that the name was very weak and that he wouldn't take the item seriously. And he even said the name sounded "fruity" as in Gay.
When I finally mentioned that "Wii" is what Nintendo is calling the Revolution, they were all pretty shocked. They all saw it as a bad move. My two youngest sisters both started laughing.
My Mom was amazed that they would pick a name like that and she even said she could see a lot of men feeling very unconferable going into a store and asking for an item called the 'Wii'
My Dad saw this as a HUGE marketing blunder. That someone in marketing really dropped the ball. The name had no selling power and then he went on to say the same things he said before, the name was very weak and no one will take the item seriously and the name sounded "fruity". When you put the name up against names like "PS3" or "Xbox360" the "Wii" is going to get crushed. When I told him how Nintendo was comparing it to "Google", "iPod", "Amazon", "Yahoo" and "Tivo" he said that is a really lame. those words have a lot more power behind them and "Wii" has no where near the same sound. People buy items based on the name, Just look at your electronics and exercise equipment, they have powerful names with lots of numbers, thats how they get the average consumers to buy something, its not about how well it works its about if the product jumps off the shelf at you.
Its what I feared, No one in my house would buy any product named the "Wii". They see it as a joke.
I fear for Nintendo even more now.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 28, 2006, 05:36:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I think it's good that it's making people laugh.
I'm enjoying that, at least. Nintendo knows fun.
But when you're laughing AT them and not WITH them, do you know what that makes Nintendo?
That's right: the next Starwars kid.
Post by: Caliban on April 28, 2006, 07:16:18 AM
Post by: obscureownership on April 28, 2006, 07:20:58 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I think it's good that it's making people laugh.
I'm enjoying that, at least. Nintendo knows fun.
But when you're laughing AT them and not WITH them, do you know what that makes Nintendo?
That's right: the next Starwars kid.
Calm down.. The reason why people were laughing at the starwars kid is because the movie was awful, not because the kid's name was phallic. It's not like this is going to make people side against Nintendo, it's just a name. People will side against Nintendo if the games are awful. That's the only factor.
Post by: The Omen on April 28, 2006, 07:39:25 AM
Of course, contrary to her advice, I will still be buying the Rev on launch day.
Post by: Ian Sane on April 28, 2006, 07:54:38 AM
Ian: So Nintendo annouced the official name for the Revolution last night.
Brother 1: That's the stupid remote thingy, right?
Brother 2: It's got to be a better name then "Revolution".
Ian: It's called the Wii.
Brother 2: What?
Ian: It's called the Wii. W-i-i. It's like "us". Wii.
Brother 1: What the hell is Wii? What does that mean?
Brother 2: That doesn't make any sense. That's such a stupid name.
Brother 1: What happened to Nintendo? They have this weird remote sh!t and now this stupid name.
Brother 2: That's the worst name for anything ever.
So I also told my parents.
Mom: The Wii? I don't get it. Is that like Japanese or something. What does that mean? Is it really small? I don't get it.
Dad: What the hell are you talking about? Wii? You can't have double i's in English. That should be "wee-ee". Is this in Latin? Some languages don't even have a 'w' sound.
Ian: So what do you think of the name?
Dad: I think it sucks.
The way my Dad said "I think it sucks" just made me laugh. I never expected him to say something so matter-of-fact like that about a videogame console no less.
So in conclusion. Brother 1 thinks Nintendo is going to die. Brother 2 loves Nintendo but is incredibly turned off by pretty much everything revealed about the Wii thus far. Even Red Steel doesn't interest him. Mom thinks gaming is for young people and isn't interested at all. Dad thinks games are too complicated and never tries any of them ever, not even stuff like Pac-Man and he thinks the name sucks.
My family probably thinks a fair bit like me so it's not a perfect sample but they unanimously think the Wii name is horrible. I am by far the most optimistic about the Wii in my entire family. I think this name is going to completely sabotage sales in North America. The name is just confusing. It sounds dumb and the spelling is awkward in both English AND Japanese.
Post by: obscureownership on April 28, 2006, 08:56:13 AM
ZOMG GAY
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 28, 2006, 09:49:08 AM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
Oh shut up Smash_Brother, there was nothing wrong with the Starwars kid but there was/is something really wrong with people that make fun of him in a bad way.
See, this is one of the things that bugs me the most about all the recent Wii discussions.
True, there have been some ridiculous statements from BOTH sides of the arguments, but there has also been some VERY good points as well. If you want proof of this, read the latest "Blah Blah Blah" on the front page. All the editors point some good points about how the new name might other while other posted some good points about how the name could fail.
If you like the name, fine. If you are annoyed by the argument, simply leave the forums or the internet all together and come back till the hype has died down. But please, don't go around bashing us that aren't 100% convinced with the name.
I admit I was extremely angry at first, but now I am cooled off and don't mind the name as much. However, I still doubt the power the new name may have on the console. So I am annoyed when I read childish comments like this simply because you disagree.
I'm going even further with this. I think the reason you guys are so forgiving of the new name is because you are so excited for the console that anything negative that may surface about it annoys you right now. I did the exact, same thing when SSB Melee was released.
I was extremely excited for the game. I wanted to play it badly. I kept checking websites for news updates, character info, videos, ANYTHING. But then one day a forum member at IGN got the game and posted his review of the game. Turns out that even if he liked the game he was severely dissapointed with it. All he did was post complains about the game. It annoyed many, myself included. I became so annoyed by his comments that I began to hate his guts and whenever I had the opportunity I bashed him.
But then I finally got the game, analized his comments with the game turns out that he was right. The game had many flaws that prevented it from being the best. And once I met him and talked to him about it, I believed him. I don't hate the game as much as he does, but now I undertstand what he is talking about.
I think this is what happening to you guys with the new name. You guys are so excited for the Rev. or Wii that you ignore anything that is negative and dismiss it as being garbage. You have high hopes that the system will deliver no matter what. Even if someone has posted EXCELLENT views on why this could turn out to be a potential flaw for Nintendo to you it's annoying, because your hopes for the console are so, so high that you really don't want to hear anything negative about it.
One thing I want to mention that just because we don't like the name it doesn't mean we aren't Nintendo fans. It's quite the opposite. We don't like the name because we LIKE Nintendo and truly believe that the name could be a potential if done wrong. Would we even bother with this if we weren't Nintendo fans?
So I am telling everybody from BOTH sides of the argument to please calm down and tone down the personal insults. Neither of you need to shove your opinions down each other's throats. You have the right to post whatever opinion you may have on the new name, but just because you truly follow that belief it doesn't mean you have to demean others to do so.
Post by: KDR_11k on April 28, 2006, 09:49:47 AM
Post by: vudu on April 28, 2006, 09:54:24 AM
QuoteDump her. Now.
Originally posted by: The Omen
I told my girlfriend last night. She said "You're not buying that."
QuoteYou explained it horribly. Just direct everyone over to the computer and show them the Revolution home page. It'll give a much better first impression.
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I told my family last night. I made sure to sound as neutral as possible when telling them so that they weren't swayed by my opinion.
Post by: Ian Sane on April 28, 2006, 09:57:04 AM
I figure most people would hear the name without the long winded explanation accompanying it. I think the name should be good enough on it's own that just hearing it will create a positive or neutral response.
Post by: vudu on April 28, 2006, 09:59:57 AM
Most people watch TV. Most people's first real impressions will be from commercials. I find it unlikely that Nintendo will just say Wii and end the commercial like that. At least in the beginning, they'll explain the name, the concept and how it works.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 28, 2006, 10:22:49 AM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
Oh shut up Smash_Brother, there was nothing wrong with the Starwars kid but there was/is something really wrong with people that make fun of him in a bad way.
That's exactly the point I'm making.
The Starwars kid was ridiculed. Nintendo is being ridiculed. They're giving their console a name which invites ridicule. Not sales, ridicule. I can think of many, many marketing strategies, but intentionally giving your product a name which people will find weak and easily mocked has never crossed my mind as one of them.
If the console doesn't even take itself seriously, how is the average customer going to take it seriously enough to buy it?
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 28, 2006, 10:30:30 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Most people watch TV. Most people's first real impressions will be from commercials. I find it unlikely that Nintendo will just say Wii and end the commercial like that. At least in the beginning, they'll explain the name, the concept and how it works.
I have zero faith in Nintendo's marketing. They've been so god awful at marketing for so long that I don't think marketing could ever save them.
Post by: jasonditz on April 28, 2006, 10:35:08 AM
Post by: vudu on April 28, 2006, 10:47:13 AM
QuoteAt first all they need to do is buy a few one-minute ad spots during major programs and air the video at revolution.nintendo.com. That will work nicely for letting the world know that Nintendo's rebranded itself.
Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I have zero faith in Nintendo's marketing. They've been so god awful at marketing for so long that I don't think marketing could ever save them.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 28, 2006, 10:49:33 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu At first all they need to do is buy a few one-minute ad spots during major programs and air the video at revolution.nintendo.com. That will work nicely for letting the world know that Nintendo's rebranded itself.
Maybe.
Nintendo basically needs to convince the entirety of NA that it's actually in the running this time around and intends to make a serious play for 1st place. It's going to take some serious marketing and probably some LUCK to get this to happen.
Post by: thejeek on April 28, 2006, 11:02:40 AM
The problem is that there actually is a subtle pronounciation difference (short versus long vowel) between the pronoun 'we' (when it's part of a sentance) and the noun 'wee'. And the way that 'Wii' it's written suggests a long 'e' as in 'wee' not a short one like 'we'... I find it hard to say 'Wii' when explaining it to people without people hearing 'wee' :-(
Post by: Requiem on April 28, 2006, 12:22:55 PM
It's not the short "e" sound or "Whe" as in "when."
"We" and "Wee" both have long "e" sounds. Simply adding an extra "e" doesn't change the fact that it sounds the same.
Post by: thejeek on April 28, 2006, 01:39:45 PM
Post by: thejeek on April 28, 2006, 01:48:45 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 28, 2006, 04:18:42 PM
Don't go say "hey. . . what do you think of the name Wii?" and then "well it's the name of such and such".
It's a brand name, throw it at them all at once. Most people will acknowledge it without caring, they won't go "har har like pee pee" unless you A) emphasize the eeee, and B) build up to it in some big, elaborate way.
You all have a very negative outlook on it, and that spreads. Whereas my outlook is more positive, and everyone I've told either likes it or is indifferent toward it.
Ian, your brothers obviously had a negative outlook from the get-go.
Also: "You can't have double i's in English."
Nope, sure can't (Hawaii, for instance). Not to mention it's a brand name, and those don't have to follow grammatical rules. It's obvious you're presenting it in a negative manner.
Post by: eljefe on April 28, 2006, 05:47:31 PM
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As a way of formalizing the "all my friends think Wii is [insert adjective here]" meme that's flowing through our comments system, we've set out three questions that will reveal what friends, relatives and strangers really think about the Nintendo Wii. All the people in this informal vox populi were shown a piece of paper with the word "Wii" drawn on it and asked:
how they think it's pronounced
what type of product they think it might be
once they're told that it's the name of Nintendo's next-gen console, what their immediate reaction is.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 28, 2006, 06:10:19 PM
Post by: Artimus on April 28, 2006, 06:16:31 PM
1. How do you pronounce the name?
2. Lets say this is a product of some kind. What type of product does it make you think of?
3. What if I told you it's for a games product?
I did it for my girlfriend, she pronounced it right. Didn't have any idea what kind of product it would be, but wasn't surprised when she heard it was a games product. I showed her Traveller's video, then, and she thought it was really pretty. lol She's not a gamer but she does play my DS (Mario Kart and minigames) on car rides or while doing nada.
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 28, 2006, 06:22:25 PM
a couple laughed and thought the name was stupid
few believed the name was stupid, but were fine with it and would get used to it
some were indifferent (thought was ok/didn't mind/care)
most found it intriguing, and liked it
one thought it was simply brilliant
and another one liked it so much, that said "the responsible for that deserves an award!"
Although I don't like it, I must admit it's slowly sinking in me.....
Post by: bustin98 on April 28, 2006, 06:53:19 PM
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Though Captain James Cook called the islands that he discovered in 1778 the Sandwich islands, this honor to the Earl of Sandwich would be short-lived. King Kamehameha I united the islands under his rule by 1819 as the Kingdom of Hawaii.
A couple of theories exist on the origin of the name Hawaii. One theory has it that the name comes from a combination of the words "Hawa" and "ii" and means a small or new homeland; "Hawa" meaning a traditional homeland and "ii" meaning small and raging. The other theory is that the name comes from the traditional discoverer of the islands, Hawaii Loa.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 28, 2006, 07:00:43 PM
Post by: denjet78 on April 28, 2006, 09:51:12 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64
See, this is one of the things that bugs me the most about all the recent Wii discussions.
And this is where I'm going to stop you because, even though your overall point is right, that it's all just opinnion and that none of us has the right to tell other people what they should or shouldn't believe, at the same time you're defending the same group of people who said they would never buy a "LameCube" and how horrible a color choice that purple was. And... AND... they're also the same people who threw a HUGE fit when Nintendo unvailed Wind Waker and proclaimed that they would never ever play another Nintendo game again because of how they fagged up "Celda". I still remember that day. It was me and maybe ONE other person on the forums that were willing to give it a chance. Hell, I actually loved the new art direction and was exstatic when they revealed it. Everyone else though, they were just angry because they weren't getting another "me-too" PS2 or XBox style game.
The people here, like on most internet forums, are only interested in snap reactions. If you actually have to think about something, well that's just too much effort. You might be able to find one or two people willing to have an adult conversation on the internet but as for most people, their internet age is 8 and bellow.
What am I actually trying to say? Just give up already. It's not worth the effort. You might as well just join in with the corus and start bashing as well.
Here, let me give you something to work from:
"Ooops! I just slammed my Wii in the car door! Hur! Hur! Hur!"
...
I am so cynical these days that it's not even funny.
Post by: wandering on April 28, 2006, 10:50:53 PM
Post by: eljefe on April 28, 2006, 10:59:34 PM
for example my dad is the type that EVEN if Wii is smashing success and he ends up playing it regularly, HE WILL NEVER CALL IT Wii!
just like he doesn't call his phone a RAZR
he just doesn't memorize gadget names.
If someone asked him the name of his cellphone for a million dollars I honestly think he would lose out. He would say "Motorola?.." because he can remember company names.
the name of product cannot affect those who don't even use it (positively or negatively)
Post by: mantidor on April 29, 2006, 05:37:33 PM
The question was? "what do you think of a product name Wii?"
She said she had no idea, but she was constantly giggling, because it just sounded silly.
Then I told here it was the name for the Nintendo console and she say "ok" completly uninterested, and by now Im sure she completly forgot about it. Probably she just thought "games, thats not for me" and left it at that.
The name did nothing for her.
Post by: eljefe on April 30, 2006, 06:13:32 PM
after people play it , that will change. They'll remember it for WHAT IT DOES not WHAT ITS CALLED.
Post by: Requiem of Darcness on April 30, 2006, 06:37:44 PM
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Originally posted by: eljefe
the name by itself means nothing to anyone
after people play it , that will change. They'll remember it for WHAT IT DOES not WHAT ITS CALLED.
The average joe isn't going to care what it does once they hear what its called. It shouldn't have mattered that the GC was purple, but it did. It seems that a lot people here are thinking that because something should happen it will. That is not always the care, especially in our image conscious society.
Post by: wandering on April 30, 2006, 06:40:23 PM
Post by: eljefe on April 30, 2006, 07:26:28 PM
someone (in fact many people) will play Wii
without knowing its name. They might be hooked by its gameplay before they even have a chance to be repulsed/confused by the name. Do you agree that this scenario is possible?
That's all I'm sayin'
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 30, 2006, 07:28:32 PM
Then again, she's also really interested in the system. I showed her the trailer a while back and she's been asking if it's out yet constantly.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 30, 2006, 10:14:08 PM
The Nintendo Wii haters have said that they showed the name to their friends and family and that they supposedly hate it...
Meanwhile, the Nintendo Wii followers have said that they showed the name to their families and they supposedly loved it...
How do I know that they aren't pulling some BS just for the sake of argument...
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 30, 2006, 10:18:58 PM
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Originally posted by: denjet78Quote
Originally posted by: pap64
See, this is one of the things that bugs me the most about all the recent Wii discussions.
And this is where I'm going to stop you because, even though your overall point is right, that it's all just opinnion and that none of us has the right to tell other people what they should or shouldn't believe, at the same time you're defending the same group of people who said they would never buy a "LameCube" and how horrible a color choice that purple was. And... AND... they're also the same people who threw a HUGE fit when Nintendo unvailed Wind Waker and proclaimed that they would never ever play another Nintendo game again because of how they fagged up "Celda". I still remember that day. It was me and maybe ONE other person on the forums that were willing to give it a chance. Hell, I actually loved the new art direction and was exstatic when they revealed it. Everyone else though, they were just angry because they weren't getting another "me-too" PS2 or XBox style game.
The people here, like on most internet forums, are only interested in snap reactions. If you actually have to think about something, well that's just too much effort. You might be able to find one or two people willing to have an adult conversation on the internet but as for most people, their internet age is 8 and bellow.
What am I actually trying to say? Just give up already. It's not worth the effort. You might as well just join in with the corus and start bashing as well.
Here, let me give you something to work from:
"Ooops! I just slammed my Wii in the car door! Hur! Hur! Hur!"
...
I am so cynical these days that it's not even funny.
What the hell are you talking about? Seriously...What is the point you are trying to make with this?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 01, 2006, 12:23:07 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
I just noticed a pattern here...
The Nintendo Wii haters have said that they showed the name to their friends and family and that they supposedly hate it...
Meanwhile, the Nintendo Wii followers have said that they showed the name to their families and they supposedly loved it...
How do I know that they aren't pulling some BS just for the sake of argument...
I doubt people are pulling a fast one and making stuff up. I believe that for the most part people are being honest, it is just how they phrased the question along with HOW they said it. The negative ones will have one way to say the question, while the so called followers will have another way of asking the question. Even with that said, I am having trouble finding anyone that likes the name that said someone "loved" it, so really your "find" is exagerrated a bit. It seems to be mostly "hate", "confused", or "indifferent".
For the record I am a supporter of "Wii" and I did tell about everyone in my family, most reactions were subdued or confused, there was nothing negative (definately no pee jokes) or nothing really positive. Personally I am going to use joystick's questionaire from now on which can help to avoid any bias in the phrasing of the question about the name.
Post by: couchmonkey on May 01, 2006, 05:52:27 AM
One person thought it was dumb but didn't care too much. The other person thought it was okay, but sounded a bit too much like a "try-hard" marketer name. You know, I think she may have read the whole spiel that came with the animation, I personally found the explanation of the name cheesy and full of marketese. "It's not about you or me, it's about Wii." I find stuff like that insulting to my intelligence: it's obviously marketers making too much out of a name.
I also mentioned it casually to my family. Something like, "So, Nintendo's new system has a name...it's Wii." I hesitated a bit, may have sounded kind of unsure about it. My mom had no reaction, my dad was like, "... ... ... Well, that's okay, it's definitely not like anything else."
So I'd say I've got one mildly positive, one indifferent and one mildly negative.
For the record my initial reaction was, "What?", then, "Man, that's fruity, but interesting, I wonder what everyone else thinks?" My first reaction to the explanation was, "ARGH! Okay, I get some of the logic behind it, but please shut up with the quasi-inspirational marketing crap."
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 01, 2006, 09:42:04 AM
Quoteyou don't.
Originally posted by: pap64
How do I know that they aren't pulling some BS just for the sake of argument...
that's called trusting people
Post by: Ian Sane on May 01, 2006, 09:54:12 AM
Well I imagine for most of us our friends and family are going to be a fair bit like us and they're going to have similar ideas and opinions. It makes sense to me that my family would react similarly to how I did because they think a lot like me.
Post by: Kairon on May 01, 2006, 09:56:17 AM
He doesn't have much time to play games, but I did buy him Madden on the GC for him and he would play that every spare moment he got for about 2 years.
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Post by: Caliban on May 01, 2006, 10:54:58 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"How do I know that they aren't pulling some BS just for the sake of argument..."
Well I imagine for most of us our friends and family are going to be a fair bit like us and they're going to have similar ideas and opinions. It makes sense to me that my family would react similarly to how I did because they think a lot like me.
It's the other way around, considering your parents were born first so you adhered personality traits from them.
Post by: Artimus on May 01, 2006, 11:40:20 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"How do I know that they aren't pulling some BS just for the sake of argument..."
Well I imagine for most of us our friends and family are going to be a fair bit like us and they're going to have similar ideas and opinions. It makes sense to me that my family would react similarly to how I did because they think a lot like me.
It's the other way around, considering your parents were born first so you adhered personality traits from them.
Unfortunately...
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 01, 2006, 02:42:01 PM
One friend (who owns a Gamecube) heard about it. He said the name Wii is fun, but he preferred Revolution.
Another friend (big-time gamer) disliked the name at first but grew to like it.
I'm pretty sure that's all I know of, right now.
Post by: Caliban on May 01, 2006, 05:58:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"How do I know that they aren't pulling some BS just for the sake of argument..."
Well I imagine for most of us our friends and family are going to be a fair bit like us and they're going to have similar ideas and opinions. It makes sense to me that my family would react similarly to how I did because they think a lot like me.
It's the other way around, considering your parents were born first so you adhered personality traits from them.
Unfortunately...
LOL!
Post by: Crimm on May 02, 2006, 08:32:03 AM
She wants me to suggest her mother to get her one for her birthday. If it were my brother it would be pretty much impossible to resist saying "he really wants to play with his Wii using his free hand [controller]."
Post by: wandering on May 02, 2006, 07:55:53 PM
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My sister called me yesterday and asked if I had heard about Wii. She isn't much of a gamer, so I was surprised she's been following it.
Success!
This reminds me, a really big part of this name change was, I imagine, removing barriers to gaming for females. That's why I don't think any name Nintendo chose would really satisfy the hardcore crowd - no matter what, the name wouldn't seem 'normal' or 'neutral' to hardcore gamers, because the name was specifically designed not to look or sound like a traditional console name.
Post by: mantidor on May 02, 2006, 08:31:55 PM
I just thought that the "Now Nintendo needs you, because its not about you or me, is about Wii" is a really creepy phrase, like they are recruiting us as mindless drones to promote their console.
Post by: Kairon on May 02, 2006, 09:04:26 PM
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Post by: Crimm on May 02, 2006, 09:20:42 PM
").That stuff they feed us about "avenues to girl gamers" isn't total BS, just like 60%. I mean, yes she owns a pink DS, and she bought one additional game. But that's all she owns. If "opening" is selling 2 game carts then I guess mission accomplished. I would think they would have higher aspirations.
I really hope my brother asks. I already have the email to our father in mind. I'm pretty sure I will squeeze more Wii jokes in then in all the IGN-blogs combined. Hey, I know he hasn't heard them.
Post by: wandering on May 03, 2006, 09:38:51 PM
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If "opening" is selling 2 game carts then I guess mission accomplished. I would think they would have higher aspirations.
Good thing Nintendo doesn't sell their hardware at a loss!
Personally, I think sales are sales. Those 2 games may not seem like much, but they're 2 sales that wouldn't have happened on another gaming system. And this stuff adds up.
Post by: Kairon on May 03, 2006, 09:46:12 PM
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Post by: Hostile Creation on May 03, 2006, 09:55:04 PM
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Post by: Crimm on May 04, 2006, 12:01:14 PM
I think they need more "non-games" that target specific demographics. I don't care if they put out Nintendcats or heck Nintendferrits, she isn't going to play Metroid Primer Hunters.
I think a good strategy would be to make "non-games" that have elements from more "game-like" products. The goal being to ease people into "real games."
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 04, 2006, 02:09:55 PM
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Post by: EasyCure on May 04, 2006, 02:26:03 PM
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My sister called me yesterday and asked if I had heard about Wii. She isn't much of a gamer, so I was surprised she's been following it.
Success!
This reminds me, a really big part of this name change was, I imagine, removing barriers to gaming for females. q]
yes, nintendo wants girls to play with Wii's. they'll introduce IP's that will attract girls and you can say "hey i have that game" and she'll come over and play with your Wii. you should thank nintendo, stop bitching about the name (to everyone who does bitch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 06, 2006, 02:07:26 PM
Post by: obscureownership on May 07, 2006, 10:54:34 AM
My girlfriend was excited about the Wii, and still is. She simply said that it's a weird name. Nothing good or bad about it, just weird.
Post by: eljefe on May 16, 2006, 10:24:43 AM
and an email my oldest bro sent to his fiance..
"Nintendo's Wii (pronounced "we") is THE revolution in video games.
Basically the world has "gamers" (see Eric, Gershom, Donnie, Randy, Jonathan...) who love complex difficult games with fast video and hi-tech animation. They have much fun pushing controller buttons to do things on a screen.(Passive recreation)
For people who don't like video games (Thomas & Sarah, Karina...) they seem difficult, childish, boring, or in any other way non-beneficial.
To others (you and I, Sonia...) we're neither anxious about the newest game/system, nor appalled by someone playing video games.
This system is basically targeted to be interesting to everyone no matter what type of game player, age-group, etc. you are because rather than pushing buttons, you're actually PLAYING the game. To stir a pot in cooking game you don't repeatedly push a button; you actually stir the controller. To sword fight in an action game you don't repeatedly push a button; you actually swing the controller like a sword. To throw the ball in a football game you don't repeatedly push a button; you do a throwing motion while holding the controller! It makes video games fun because it makes them an active recreation activity. It looks like it will be a cool system for groups (similar to board games of today) because various skill levels can pick it up and instantly have fun.
It's tough to explain, but as soon as it comes out we'll play a demo and that way you can better understand the fun in 'PLAYING a game' rather than 'playing a GAME.'"
Post by: wandering on May 16, 2006, 09:51:02 PM
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To others (you and I, Sonia...) we're neither anxious about the newest game/system, nor appalled by someone playing video games.
For someone so neutral when it comes to videogames, you sure do post on Planet GameCube alot...
Post by: BlkPaladin on May 17, 2006, 09:40:57 AM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 17, 2006, 10:18:10 AM
I showed the Wii trailer they showed at E3 as well as the E3 Red steel trailer to my 12 year old nephew, who is a hardcore Sony player. HE LOVED IT! He was extremely impressed with the controller and the games. He loved the Red Steel trailer the most, though. He was extremely impressed with the sword fights. He even told me that he couldn't stop thinking about how he would look playing the games and wanted me to show the trailers to everybody.
About the name, he didn't mind it much because he was too impressed with the games to care.
Post by: eljefe on May 18, 2006, 04:02:59 AM
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To others (you and I, Sonia...) we're neither anxious about the newest game/system, nor appalled by someone playing video games.
For someone so neutral when it comes to videogames, you sure do post on Planet GameCube alot...
it was my bro
to his wife-to-be
he forwarded the email to me..
I'm not neutral
