Post by: Mario on April 18, 2006, 10:15:13 PM
Also, Nintendo Official Magazine in the UK confirmed there is more than one Sega game for Revolutoin launch. They hinted at their next issue (releasing after E3) they'll be covering the Sega Revolution "games".
Post by: IceCold on April 18, 2006, 10:16:30 PM
NiGHTS EXPLODES onto the Nintendo Revolution..
Post by: Mario on April 18, 2006, 10:23:18 PM
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Famitsu Next Week
Pre E3 scoop!
the contents in E3 and titles for revolution will be revealed
(getting this info from Japanese forums and GAF. Maybe this stuff was all supposed to hit alongside the Red Steel info?)
Post by: IceCold on April 18, 2006, 10:25:58 PM
Also, could that other launch title be the new Sonic game designed from the ground up for the Revolution?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 18, 2006, 10:28:26 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 18, 2006, 10:43:49 PM
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Post by: PaLaDiN on April 18, 2006, 11:18:20 PM
Post by: wandering on April 19, 2006, 01:28:47 AM
Anyway. I've never played the game, so I'm def looking forward to this.
Post by: Talon on April 19, 2006, 01:53:54 AM
Post by: Mario on April 19, 2006, 02:25:41 AM
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????????????????????
Game creator who recently went solo is developing this
?????????????????????????
"that" action game featuring an evil-spirit that looks like a pierrot flying through the air
?????
Coming out for Revolution
Post by: Miyamoto Osaki on April 19, 2006, 03:06:47 AM
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Who'd wanna play a game set at night?
I reckon games which are set at night are awesome to play....
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 19, 2006, 03:12:36 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Even if it's true... obviously the virtual console, guys. Move along, nothing to see here.
Saturn emulation = rampaging whore swinging STD's. Virtually impossible to do.
Post by: capamerica on April 19, 2006, 05:10:28 AM
And keep in mind that the emulator avalable was created by people who don't have access to the real stuff. If Sega made the emulator it would be even better.
Post by: couchmonkey on April 19, 2006, 05:28:55 AM
Okay, I'm talking out my arse, I have no idea how big Saturn games were, but they used CDs, so it's probably safe to say that without going back and recompressing FMVs and stuff, a lot of Saturn games would be big space hogs on the internal memory or even a decent-sized SD card.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 19, 2006, 05:32:36 AM
(Go away, Paladin! Your trashbags do 0 damage!)
Post by: ThePerm on April 19, 2006, 05:46:50 AM
however vitual fighter 2 is only 49.5 MB
Post by: ThePerm on April 19, 2006, 05:48:56 AM
Post by: Knoxxville on April 19, 2006, 05:54:32 AM
Besides, I think that a new NiGHTS game would ROCK with the revmote!
Post by: capamerica on April 19, 2006, 05:59:35 AM
Post by: ThePerm on April 19, 2006, 06:01:35 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 19, 2006, 06:29:24 AM
I think the Revolution controller can really be used bring a new element and depth to the game and I am excited about it.
Post by: Michael8983 on April 19, 2006, 06:57:58 AM
Post by: MysticGohan on April 19, 2006, 08:26:39 AM
It's 456MB in size. so it'll be quite hefty for that 512MB of Flash alone, if indeed on the virtue console, we'll need something abit more bigger :p
Post by: Fro on April 19, 2006, 08:29:11 AM
Post by: ThePerm on April 19, 2006, 08:31:56 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 19, 2006, 08:35:12 AM
Simple. I don't want it for the download service, and we shouldn't expect it. The deal never mentioned Saturn games or beyond.
Post by: MysticGohan on April 19, 2006, 08:46:50 AM
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Post by: MysticGohan on April 19, 2006, 08:53:02 AM
Post by: animecyberrat on April 19, 2006, 08:55:59 AM
NiGHST was an AWESOME game and if done right will totaly rock on the REV. Its possibe thet the main reason there hasnt even been a NiGhts sequel up till now is because the controllers all sucked for it, the Saturn had a special controler made just for the game and it wasnt even that good. IF TRUE this is goiong to be the system seller for Sega fans garunteed.
Post by: MysticGohan on April 19, 2006, 09:03:46 AM
Night's files
Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 19, 2006, 09:44:39 AM
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Post by: joedick on April 19, 2006, 01:22:58 PM
Post by: IceCold on April 19, 2006, 02:02:35 PM
QuoteYou could search for some videos of it.. they wouldn't do justice to the game, but they would at least give you a taste..
Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
I definitely don't even know what NiGHTS was. I've heard the name all over the place, but I don't know anything about it.
Post by: animecyberrat on April 19, 2006, 03:01:11 PM
Emulating the Saturn is not nescsarily an easy task even for a 'super computer' which is what our pcs are in comparison because it was a compluicated system it had 2 Video Display Proscessors (2-D graphics chips) 2 3D 32 Bit Risc chips (Dual SH-2 chips) a single Motorola 68K chip (used primarily for sound but also for transfering data form SH-2's) and a seperate system cache and 1MB system save RAM area batery backed up and also expandable.
The SH2 chips running together made for a friggin complicated set up on thier own, basicaly they were 32 bit risc processors that each ran the system, and you could program one or the other or both to run in tandem, but rarely were both chips used most of the time it was 1 SH2 and 1 or both VDPs or Both VDPs and Sh2 was used as boot up and the 68K ran the primary functions occasionaly (this was done for Sonic Jam the game ran entirely on teh Genesis chip so that emulation wasnt nescasary onbe of the major flaws with Saturn since it had the Genesis hardware built in yet they didnt include backwards compatibility)
I am not a real technical guy I haev some programming knowledge and I have read all the official docements regarding Satruns architechture and basicaly it is virtual impossible to emulate because of the set up, ps3 could theoreticaly do it simply because its multi core and could have each core emulate individual functions of the satirn where as the REV will have harder time because it will have to emulate 5 chips in stead of just 1 (Genesis, SNES and Turbo Graphix all ran variations of the same chip anyways, well TG 16 actualt ran 2 8bit cvhips but realy teh GBA coudl emulate that no problem)
As for NiGhts coming to REV, theres no way they woudl make it a remake or re-release since if they were goignto do that they woudl have already done so by now. Sega executives and the creators of NiGHts have already stated publicaly that they did not want to revisit NiGHts or re-release it.
Post by: capamerica on April 19, 2006, 04:46:00 PM
People it has been done. Look into Saturne or SSF.
I have Saturne running on my AMD 1.5Ghz system which only has 512MB of RAM and a 128MB videocard. And NiGHTs runs beautifully.
The Revolution will have more then enough power to do this, especially if Sega makes the emulator.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 19, 2006, 06:20:00 PM
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Originally posted by: capamerica
Why does everyone still think you can't emulate a Sega Saturn.
People it has been done. Look into Saturne or SSF.
I have Saturne running on my AMD 1.5Ghz system which only has 512MB of RAM and a 128MB videocard. And NiGHTs runs beautifully.
The Revolution will have more then enough power to do this, especially if Sega makes the emulator.
I could NEVER get my Saturn emulator running. I just didn't understand it...
Post by: animecyberrat on April 19, 2006, 08:53:07 PM
Other games ran BOTH VDPs and 1 SH2, others still ran ONLY the 68K and 1 or two VDPs, its because of the different combinations that were availabel emulation is near impossible, becaus eunelss you have the source code youc an not program the corect setup.
JUST having all the chips emulated isnt enough because you have to write instructions telling the emulators which chips to run, this was doen ont he start up in original Saturn. NiGhts was one fo the very few games that ran EVERYTHING at once, makig it one of the most difficult games to emulate, now you can write all the proper intructions and boot the disk normal but you have to have an emulator that can emulate both VDPs and BOTH Sh2's and the 68K all at once, and even for a pentium PC thats not an easy task, not so much for the machines but for the programmers, the LATEST emulators out for saturn still only emulate teh SH2s at 85 percent, so yo can PLAY most games witht hat but NOT all and a lot of games wont run properly. And NiGHTS doesnt have to be emulated 100 percent to look pretty because it ws MOSTLy prerendered backgrounds, you went in circles.
You have to understand how it works, even SEGA said that emulating Saturn would be a nightmare hence the reason Dreamcast wasnt backwards compatible either and it ran on a SH4 which is a step up above the SH2 so tehy ahd similar architechture except Sega chose to forgo the extra processors when DC came out.
EDIT ( for clarification think of it this way teh VDPs were 2d Processors that could be used for special effects when in 3d mode, the SH2 were risc chips that could run 3D accelaration and had sclaing and rotation capabilties, you needed one or more VDP to do texture mapping but they didnt have any fo the fancy effects that we have now, not even Z Buffering, and the Motorolo 68000 chip was teh same as Genesis, itw as 16 bit chip with very limited capabilities.) So does that make more sense? Yo would need an emulator that can emulate 2 32 bit risc chips and 2 VDP chips that had virtualy unlimited sprite lines and could handle texture mapping as well as background images. heres an example. Virtua Cop ran only 1 SH2 for rendering all the character models and ran teh 68K for painting the mackground images, that didnt even rotate or have any animations. To emulate that yowould have to write the code for a sigle Sh2 and the 68K, then Virtua Racing ran the dual SH2 but didnt even bother with the vdps at all, there were no texture mappng and the back groudns agian were drawn on the 68K, then Daytona USA rendered everything on 1 SH2 and used the second for Environments and used a single VDP for Textures and the 68K as sound chip.
What makes emulating saturn difficult is that the 68K was desgined to be a sound chip, but since Saturn had CD audio capanbilities programers coudl record soudn fiels as wav files and then play then back when needed and program the 68K as a extra graphics chip, which makes emulating it harder because the BIOS loaded Main SH2 first then IF instructiosn were there loaded the SLAVE chip, if the load up intructions werent there the Slave laid dormant and could not be called latter. This makes emulating crazy because every game was different and theres litteraly no way to test every single game to ensure they work properly, which is why so few Saturn games get ported to newer systems.
Post by: Kairon on April 19, 2006, 09:01:44 PM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: wandering on April 19, 2006, 09:06:41 PM
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Have any news sites confirmed this news yet?
link. Aparently, famitsu is reporting, in their RUMOR section, that NiGHTS could be getting a true sequel for Revolution.
Which is a bit odd, considering the creator of the game has said he doesn't want to another NiGHTS game because the original was so perfect. But here's hoping.
Post by: animecyberrat on April 19, 2006, 09:12:08 PM
Post by: MysticGohan on April 19, 2006, 09:20:54 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on April 19, 2006, 09:27:41 PM
Saturn was originaly supposed to run on Model 1 Hardware then they upted it to Model 2 then scrapped that desgined in favor of the Hitachi chips.
Post by: Kairon on April 19, 2006, 09:35:09 PM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: animecyberrat on April 19, 2006, 09:41:06 PM
Post by: MysticGohan on April 19, 2006, 09:46:04 PM
Maybe Mario could tell you lol.
Post by: Michael8983 on April 19, 2006, 10:07:30 PM
I imagine pointing the remote at the screen and controlling the direction of flight by tilting the controller in the direction you want to fly. You could do flips and u-turns with ease. Imagine tilting the control upward slightly to make your Night ascend slowly into the air then quickly flicking the Rev-mote down to make him/her dive at an incredible speed. Then perhaps "drawing" a few circles in the air with the Rev-mote to do some somersaults of varying size. Basically coregraphed flight. It could be really awesome. It would certainly allow for a kind of ease and accuracy - in both the direction and speed of flight - not possible on an analog stick. The sequel would have to have courses much more difficult to make up for it.
Supposably Yuji Naki didn't want to make a sequel to Nights because he didn't think he could improve on it, but perhaps Nintendo's innovative new controller changed his mind in that regard.
Post by: Caterkiller on April 19, 2006, 10:09:09 PM
Throughout the past few years, questions have been asked left and right regarding a new Nights game or a remake. And it was always replied to with something along the lines of "we think Nights is perfect and don't want to ruin the franchise with a sequal." Now then, with the new and supposedly amazing Rev controller, a sequal to Nights is now a possibility because now Naka has something truely different and unique to work with that would really fit the game.
I am very excited with the possibilty of a new Nights game. Even if this rumor is nothing more than just that, I always thought the new controller would be a great reason to start a Nights sequal.
Post by: MysticGohan on April 19, 2006, 10:14:00 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on April 20, 2006, 03:12:17 PM
Post by: cubist on April 20, 2006, 06:18:53 PM
Looking for a brand new Nights with the option of playing the original (locked away in the game).
Post by: MysticGohan on April 20, 2006, 06:21:47 PM
Post by: Terranigma Freak on April 21, 2006, 05:40:56 AM
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Which is a bit odd, considering the creator of the game has said he doesn't want to another NiGHTS game because the original was so perfect. But here's hoping.
If the creator doesn't want to make a new one, I doubt anyone can force him to make a new one. Sega can get another team to work on it, but the true genius behind the game won't be involved. Anyway, this rumor is just that, a rumor. I seriously doubt it'll happen.
Post by: cubist on April 21, 2006, 05:49:19 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 21, 2006, 05:55:17 AM
Post by: Caterkiller on April 21, 2006, 08:29:38 AM
Post by: animecyberrat on April 21, 2006, 11:29:14 AM
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Post by: nemo_83 on April 21, 2006, 03:50:30 PM
Post by: ThePerm on April 21, 2006, 04:33:44 PM
Post by: Kairon on April 21, 2006, 04:46:54 PM
...Don't know why I remembered that all of a sudden...
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: animecyberrat on April 21, 2006, 07:09:18 PM
Post by: Knoxxville on April 22, 2006, 06:07:40 PM
Post by: Dasmos on April 22, 2006, 09:33:41 PM
QuoteI agree, flying must become mandatory for all games.
Originally posted by: nemo_83
the reason they havn't made a new Knights game is because a true sequel would require something like...the remote to once again wow players with a new level of interaction, a game that feels like you are flying. i've been wanting something like that for years, and was sour about the absence of flying in Luigi's Mansion and Mario Sunshine.
Post by: IceCold on April 23, 2006, 10:10:21 PM
However, it was delayed, moved to the Dreamcast, and eventually cancelled. Also, as others have said, Naka didn't want to make a sequel because at the moment, he can't improve anything other than the graphics. So, after learning this, a Revolution iteration is very likely, and I don't know why we didn't see this earlier.
Very interesting..
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 24, 2006, 06:02:32 AM
Nintendo stated that early on developing the Revolution that it let a small number of KEY DEVELOPERS in on the Revolution secrets from the very beginning.
Nobody knows who these developers as, but I speculate it wasn't the entire company, and was very much limited to keep everything a secret.
We already know that Retro helped design the Analog addon device. Would to be too hard to believe if Naka knew what Nintendo was working on with the controler. Perhaps had some input?
At the very least, he could have known early enough to begin designing the Nights sequel earlier than later.
Post by: Caliban on April 24, 2006, 07:37:55 AM
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Post by: Terranigma Freak on April 25, 2006, 05:38:01 AM
Post by: zakkiel on April 25, 2006, 05:44:52 AM
QuoteI can't vouch for other fields, but in physics and philosophy this is nonsense.
They've done studies that show that our greatest men have done their best work predominantly in their 20's. Why? Because once they married and "got the girl" they no longer needed to advertise for a mate, so one of the big subconscious reasons why they were so driven was fulfilled.
Post by: Ceric on April 25, 2006, 06:03:29 AM
I could see this. That means I have no hope. Though I think it's a general rule but, with the right wife or other motivation it could easily be overcome.
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 25, 2006, 06:45:52 AM
Usually that inspiration comes at a younger age while people are trying to prove themselves and create an identity. However, several creative and professional areas require more age and wisdom of life before you can accomplish great masterpieces.
Some of those include:
Writing (Novels, Screenplays, theories, law)
Doctors
Lawyers
And I can bet much more.
Basically I think the above is a myth that isn't proven at all.
Post by: Artimus on April 25, 2006, 07:25:47 AM
Post by: Kairon on April 25, 2006, 09:09:24 AM
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Post by: Spak-Spang on April 25, 2006, 09:18:25 AM
Science of the mind and people in general is very flawed...just like theortic Science usually is.
There are studies that say Global Warming is caused by man. (Yeah right.)
Post by: Kairon on April 25, 2006, 09:24:27 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-SpangThere are studies that say Global Warming is caused by man. (Yeah right.)
I know, tell me about it! Women are just as culpable as we are!
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 25, 2006, 09:41:48 AM
No you see until recently studies had shown mean and women were exactly the same.
So to say man is to say woman.
Basically I believe global warming as we see it doesn't exist.
I believe the universe goes through cycles and we may be warming up because severl external factors, but it will eventually cool again...then again we may actually not be warming at all and cooling. There is so little evidence.
I remember reading a study that once said Orange Juice caused cancer...it was later retracted.
So I put very little faith in studies.
Post by: Artimus on April 25, 2006, 10:06:12 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
I believe the universe goes through cycles and we may be warming up because severl external factors, but it will eventually cool again...then again we may actually not be warming at all and cooling. There is so little evidence.
I've never heard anyone disagree with that. The issue is the speed. There is zero evidence for the type of climate change we are currently seeing having happened before.
But continue to be ignorant and we'll all continue on this path to our own extinctions.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 25, 2006, 10:18:27 AM
Post by: Michael8983 on April 25, 2006, 10:31:47 AM
When you're in human form you can explore in 3D but when you take flight it's all 2D gameplay with rotating camera like in Kirby's N64 game. Most of the game does take place in flight with you only being in human form if you run out of dream magic or whatever.
Why is the game great?
It has a great atmosphere with imaginative levels and enemies, brilliant level design, addictive and challenging gameplay, and incredible boss battles. More than that, it was unlike any game made before or since for that matter. It was truly something special.
Post by: The Omen on April 25, 2006, 12:58:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
They've done studies that show that our greatest men have done their best work predominantly in their 20's. Why? Because once they married and "got the girl" they no longer needed to advertise for a mate, so one of the big subconscious reasons why they were so driven was fulfilled.
...Don't know why I remembered that all of a sudden...
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
It's a little more broad than that. Any person who gains a high degree of success, in any field, instinctively lose that intial drive that they used to gain that success. Age isn't really the culprit, it's at what age you become content with your career. In most cases, it's the comfortable lifestyle and having a big bank account that end greatness. For every Spielberg, there is a Lynch.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 25, 2006, 01:04:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Michael8983
Basically in Nights you play as either a yoing boy or girl where you're transported into a magical dream world in your sleep where you are able to transform into a flying jester-looking character (which I believe is a Night) and fly through various obstacles as fast as possible collecting as many points along the way as you can before facing that level's boss.
When you're in human form you can explore in 3D but when you take flight it's all 2D gameplay with rotating camera like in Kirby's N64 game. Most of the game does take place in flight with you only being in human form if you run out of dream magic or whatever.
Why is the game great?
It has a great atmosphere with imaginative levels and enemies, brilliant level design, addictive and challenging gameplay, and incredible boss battles. More than that, it was unlike any game made before or since for that matter. It was truly something special.
The funny thing is that EGM (I think) called this game one of the most overrated games ever and said that it was a game where all you is collect orbs and fly through rings. Tha's it.
I haven't played the game, either, so I don't know if they are right or not, but I will say that back in the day the game was indeed truly special.
Post by: IceCold on April 25, 2006, 05:16:54 PM
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Post by: animecyberrat on April 26, 2006, 01:38:51 PM
Also it was one of the first games I got for my Saturn and is definaltely deserving of the hype. If you want to get full reviews and screen shots just goto www.gamefaqs.com look up Sega Saturn and find NiGHTS Into Dreams. They gaem was so big and special they made thier own special controller fo rit which latter became the standard controller AND evolved into teh Dc controller AND it got a special edition Christmas bonus that added new levels and themes. It was HUGE back in the day. The main character kind looak liek those Jokers ona deck of cards with the funny hats and he has purple clothes. If you play SOnic Advenutre there is a Casin level where you fly threw the slot machines and youa ctualy fly through his level and see him flying around, it was awesome to see that and it gives you a fell of what they game was like.
Post by: Artimus on April 26, 2006, 01:55:19 PM
Post by: IceCold on April 26, 2006, 02:12:34 PM
QuoteI meant that you just can't compare the two; they have their own charm and style. They were both different, and SEGA shouldn't have said it was a "Mario-killer."
Not really Icecold, because it DID show that the Saturn could do similar game play as mario 64. The thing of it was they should have madea fantastic 3D Sonic they they teased us with (sonic X-Treme) instead of NiGHTS.
Post by: wandering on April 26, 2006, 07:31:20 PM
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For every Spielberg, there is a Lynch.
Lynch being in the good column, right?
Personally, I don't think scientists can explain the motivation of great men. People do things because they have to do them. What you can look at, though are the factors that lead to the abilitity of great men: mathematicians do their best work when they're young because that's when their minds are sharp. Artists do their best work when they're old because they've accumalated a greater knowledge and understanding of the world around them. Succesuful artists, like The Omen said, stop doing good work because they exist in a bubble.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 26, 2006, 07:49:50 PM
At least his short films were. Haven't seen Eraserhead yet.
So, NiGHTS, eh? Never played it, but I'm looking forward to trying it.
Post by: jasonditz on April 26, 2006, 09:15:56 PM
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Originally posted by: animecyberrat
Not really Icecold, because it DID show that the Saturn could do similar game play as mario 64. The thing of it was they should have madea fantastic 3D Sonic they they teased us with (sonic X-Treme) instead of NiGHTS.
They've had another decade now and they still haven't made a 3D Sonic that can hold a candle to Mario 64.
I think they made the right choice in this regard, NiGHTS was a 3D experience from the ground up, and a satisfying one. I think the true mistake was not making an epic Sonic 2D game for the Saturn. The Saturn was an amazing 2D platform (see Xmen vs. Streetfighter), and Sonic really could've used another epic tour-de-force 2D title.
Post by: animecyberrat on April 27, 2006, 06:38:41 AM
A 2-D Sonic could have been nice except they were losing thier touch when it came to Sonic at that time, and the focus was on 3D because ps and n64 were focusing on 3-D.
Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 03:32:58 PM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 18, 2007, 08:39:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
New NiGHTs screenshots
Ehhe, still not too impressed with the game. Not to mention I tend to be very pessimistic when it comes to Sega games now!
Post by: Ceric on August 19, 2007, 04:55:13 AM
Post by: Maverick on August 19, 2007, 06:21:29 AM
Sorry to disrupt the Nights discussion, I was just confused by that post.
Post by: denjet78 on August 20, 2007, 10:17:24 AM
Seriously though, those new screens are head and shoulders above everything else they've shown so far. It looks like a completely different game now, one with good graphics.
What I don't understand is why they're having trouble with the graphics at all. It's essentially an on-rails flying/adventure game. It should be able to easily keep paces with the best looking games on Wii if Sega's even half trying. Until these new screens came out the game was looking rather crap in that regard when it never should have in the first place.
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Post by: Neodymium on August 21, 2007, 09:10:39 AM
If Sonic X-treme had accompanied the original Nights up against Mario 64, then we'd be playing this on Sega hardware. But I'm looking forward to this game and if Sega messes it up like they do so many.. all of their other games, then I will truly have lost all faith in them. Nights not being fantastic means the one of absolute worst sentimental disasters in gaming history.
Post by: Mashiro on August 21, 2007, 12:09:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Neodymium
The graphics look fine to me.
If Sonic X-treme had accompanied the original Nights up against Mario 64, then we'd be playing this on Sega hardware. But I'm looking forward to this game and if Sega messes it up like they do so many.. all of their other games, then I will truly have lost all faith in them. Nights not being fantastic means the one of absolute worst sentimental disasters in gaming history.
Sonic X-treme wouldn't have even come close to touching the awesomeness that was Super Mario 64. I've seen the screens and videos and while it looked ok it wouldn't have been the Nintendo killer. . .
Post by: Khushrenada on August 21, 2007, 06:39:25 PM
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Originally posted by: MashiroQuote
Originally posted by: Neodymium
The graphics look fine to me.
If Sonic X-treme had accompanied the original Nights up against Mario 64, then we'd be playing this on Sega hardware. But I'm looking forward to this game and if Sega messes it up like they do so many.. all of their other games, then I will truly have lost all faith in them. Nights not being fantastic means the one of absolute worst sentimental disasters in gaming history.
Sonic X-treme wouldn't have even come close to touching the awesomeness that was Super Mario 64. I've seen the screens and videos and while it looked ok it wouldn't have been the Nintendo killer. . .
He doesn't mean that they would kill Nintendo, just that Sega would still be in business and this NiGHTS game would be on a Sega system instead of now on a Nintendo system.
Post by: Mashiro on August 21, 2007, 07:21:59 PM
I don't think it woulda kept Sega in the hardware business though TBH . . .
Post by: Adrock on August 21, 2007, 08:31:44 PM
The only way Sega could've stayed in the hardware business is if they adopted Nintendo's business model of maximizing profits and even then, they're games generally never made as much as Nintendo's. The market is barely large enough for 3 players now and we can assume that no matter what Sega did, the 3rd party support Nintendo had would've gone to Sony anyway because Sega was utter failure in Japan. The market is barely large enough for 3 players today. If anyone was getting pushed out, I have no doubt that it'd be Sega no matter what they did.
Post by: couchmonkey on August 22, 2007, 03:30:36 AM
Sega made so many bad decisions that there's no way one game could've saved it. From the unecessary Genesis add-ons to the Saturn's surprise launch to the never-ending stream of battery-sucking handhelds...everything Sega did after launching the Genesis went wrong, up until Dreamcast, which was too little too late.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 01, 2007, 04:58:16 AM
The BGM is just as amazing as the original! Some hope for this game returns!
Post by: Kairon on September 01, 2007, 09:14:39 AM
The trailer is also so utterly totally nifty. I'm looking forward to the game again!
Post by: ShyGuy on September 12, 2007, 08:13:34 PM
Is it just me or is the character model just ugly design?
Post by: Kairon on September 12, 2007, 09:55:13 PM
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Is it just me or is the character model just ugly design?
Not really... then again... this IS Sega... *sigh*
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 12, 2007, 10:45:42 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on September 13, 2007, 03:20:40 AM
If by character model we mean the hero, I think he looks fine...until you put him next to a realistic design like the kids. Then he looks like a freak of nature with eyes like headlights...but so would any anime character.
Post by: cubist on September 13, 2007, 03:58:34 AM
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Post by: Adrock on November 21, 2007, 07:28:13 AM
What. The. Crap.
I have the original on Sega Saturn so a remake on any system is inconsequential to me. It's just that I can't figure out why this isn't at least coming to Wii also. I was thinking that maybe the original is included in Journey into Dream, but would anyone buy a remake at that point? A PS2 version is fine since the userbase is so large. At the same time, wouldn't a Wii version make just as much sense seeing as the sequel is coming out this year? This is probably just another case of "Oh wait, this is Sega we're talking about."
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 20, 2007, 02:27:11 PM
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Whoa I didn't even know this had multiplayer, awesome.
From what I heard its basically a 2 player racing mode.
Golden: How's the weather feature? Does it truly change according to what it says on the Forecast channel?
Post by: NeoThunder on December 30, 2007, 01:21:35 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 30, 2007, 01:24:49 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 30, 2007, 02:58:07 PM
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So, Is this game worth getting?
From everything I've read its a rental. Some love it, others thing is par. If you are curious you should rent it and see what you think.
Speaking of which, any new impressions GP?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on December 31, 2007, 10:18:52 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 01, 2008, 03:49:18 AM
Interview with the Nights director *warning* in German
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