Post by: Garnee on April 14, 2006, 09:46:21 AM
(There wasn't any really good Geist topics to dig up)
Post by: capamerica on April 14, 2006, 11:52:56 AM
I hope we see Geist 2 on the Revolution.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 14, 2006, 12:43:06 PM
I think I will go back and finish it at some point
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 14, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
It makes a great foundation for future Rev games.
Plus... DOGS AND RATS AND SHOWER ROOMS.
Post by: mantidor on April 14, 2006, 05:29:48 PM
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 14, 2006, 06:49:56 PM
I think what killed the game was that it took too much to release and even Nintendo kinda ignored it a bit.
Post by: Shecky on April 14, 2006, 09:21:06 PM
Flawed technically, and while the concept of play was probably cool on paper, it didn't play out well.
Post by: jasonditz on April 14, 2006, 09:36:34 PM
The game lacked polish though... for a game that was in development for virtually the entire millenium it felt a little rushed.
Post by: Plugabugz on April 15, 2006, 03:38:05 AM
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 15, 2006, 06:40:01 AM
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 15, 2006, 06:34:04 PM
Post by: trip1eX on April 15, 2006, 06:45:48 PM
Geist had the framework of a pretty great game. They just didn't go back and fill it in with Nintendo AAA polish. I mean there were slowdowns and the graphics were mixed. Sometimes you'd see great lighting and pretty good textures and other times you'd see fuzzy weird looking guys, flat lighting and dull textures. The transition effect to becoming a ghost could have been smoother. The shooting wasn't that polished. But overall it was fun. A great concept that has room to go even further. If they had the Retro guys polishing up the game it would have been killer.
Also I don't like videogame stories, but I thought Geist's story was well done.
I just think if Nintendo puts out a sequel and gets some AAA polish on it then we'll be in for a treat. I definitely get tired of fps games where all I do is shoot. This one mixed things up between the possession thing, shoot outs and boss creatures. That's why I finished it. I never got bored.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 16, 2006, 11:42:55 AM
I'd like to see something similar, but with a stronger focus on the ghost features. Like, maybe a game that was totally ghost oriented, about haunting people or something similar.
The plot was corny, too.
I finished it, but I didn't feel the sense of satisfaction I get from Nintendo games.
(In regards to RE4, which people are comparing it too, RE4 was much better but far too long. I was ready for it to end by the end of the first disc. It was the same exact thing for twenty hours, eventually just became flat out boring)
Post by: Knoxxville on April 17, 2006, 11:57:32 AM
Still haven't played Geist though.....and actually I have no desire to.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 17, 2006, 01:30:20 PM
Post by: 18 Days on April 18, 2006, 04:39:45 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 18, 2006, 05:37:35 AM
And the final boss is possibly my favorite part of the game, along with some of the ghost sequences.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 18, 2006, 06:00:50 AM
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Originally posted by: 18 Days
I didn't pay full price for a game that I can't complete because suddenly theres a giant mutant boss thing that has crushed my lift and takes about a million rounds of ammunition to it's moving mouth to kill.
That was definitely one of the more annoying bosses. The worst part for me was that I figured out most of what I had to do, but the graphics were too muddy for me to figure out what my grenades were doing, so I didn't realize the claws were blocking them. I finally gave up and checked a guide online. Without a doubt, though, the most annoying boss battle in the whole game was against those blasted spectral forces coming out of the helicopter wreckage. However, I also found some of the boss battles a lot of fun, especially the giant statues.
I knew going into it that Geist wasn't considered a good shooter, but it was easily worth the heavily discounted price just to experience it. Actually, I found it more playable than Halo, but that's probably because I'm more comfortable with the controller. I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel.
Post by: Renny on April 18, 2006, 06:48:39 AM
Post by: tbenton on April 18, 2006, 02:29:47 PM
Post by: Kairon on April 18, 2006, 07:15:03 PM
At its core their implementation of the ghost concept was so thinly worked on that it amounted to little else than a sparkling innovation expect in a few rare cases.
With that out of the way, the entire rest of the game was a horrifically mediocre FPS.
I'd like to think well of N-Space despite my heavy dislike for this game though, and believe that with the Revolution not being headache-inducing-ambitious in the development environment, perhaps they'll fare better next game and perhaps they can develop a more complete concept next time as well.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: 18 Days on April 18, 2006, 07:27:18 PM
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Originally posted by: Renny
If you dislike bosses, give Halo a try. And see how boring games would be without them.
Or give Goldeneye a try and see how painless a game is without them.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 18, 2006, 07:30:12 PM
Post by: 18 Days on April 18, 2006, 07:34:57 PM
Post by: Renny on April 18, 2006, 07:51:10 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 18, 2006, 11:22:39 PM
But that isn't the reason I didn't play single player.
Post by: Mario on April 18, 2006, 11:45:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
I didn't like Geist.
At its core their implementation of the ghost concept was so thinly worked on that it amounted to little else than a sparkling innovation expect in a few rare cases.
With that out of the way, the entire rest of the game was a horrifically mediocre FPS.
I'd like to think well of N-Space despite my heavy dislike for this game though, and believe that with the Revolution not being headache-inducing-ambitious in the development environment, perhaps they'll fare better next game and perhaps they can develop a more complete concept next time as well.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Wow, you dislike a game that Miyamoto worked on!
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 19, 2006, 12:04:43 AM
I would probably buy it if it wasn't forty-nine dollars and ninety-nine ****ing cents.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 19, 2006, 05:40:33 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 19, 2006, 05:41:51 AM
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Originally posted by: 18 DaysQuote
Originally posted by: Renny
If you dislike bosses, give Halo a try. And see how boring games would be without them.
Or give Goldeneye a try and see how painless a game is without them.
Goldeneye DOES have bosses...
Post by: mantidor on April 19, 2006, 06:48:43 AM
Post by: vudu on April 19, 2006, 08:53:01 AM
QuoteYou should check the Amazing Deals thread more often. Best Buy was selling it for $10 about a month ago (Killer 7, too). I bought both, but haven't gotten around to playing either one yet.
Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
I would probably like Geist if I bought it.
I would probably buy it if it wasn't forty-nine dollars and ninety-nine ****ing cents.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 19, 2006, 10:20:21 AM
Post by: vudu on April 19, 2006, 10:22:51 AM
EDIT: And Brain Training. I forgot about that one. Perhaps I'll get Hunters one of these days, too.
Post by: Kairon on April 19, 2006, 09:48:54 PM
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Originally posted by: MarioQuote
Originally posted by: Kairon
I didn't like Geist.
At its core their implementation of the ghost concept was so thinly worked on that it amounted to little else than a sparkling innovation expect in a few rare cases.
With that out of the way, the entire rest of the game was a horrifically mediocre FPS.
I'd like to think well of N-Space despite my heavy dislike for this game though, and believe that with the Revolution not being headache-inducing-ambitious in the development environment, perhaps they'll fare better next game and perhaps they can develop a more complete concept next time as well.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Wow, you dislike a game that Miyamoto worked on!
What? NNOOOOOooooOOOOoOOooOooOoOOooO *gasp* ooOOoOoooooOOoOooOoOooOOOOOO!!!!1111!!111!!1!!!!!!!11!1!
...
But seriously, I'm not delirious about Metroid Prime either, which Miyamoto worked on waaaay more than he worked on Geist.
Even though I can still try to pinpoint and revel in Miyamoto's small touches in such games, I actually make a big distinction whether it is a Miyamoto-DIRECTED game or not. And with his new position in the company, poor me, those are few and far between.
Incidentally, I haven't truly been hooked by a Zelda game since OoT because, surprise surprise, MM and WW were both Aonouma-directed games! This doesn't bode well for my enjoyment of TP, unfortunately, but I shall do my best to endure, and seek out whatever crumbs I can find that have fallen from the master's table.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 19, 2006, 10:17:49 PM
Post by: wandering on April 20, 2006, 12:00:23 AM
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Incidentally, I haven't truly been hooked by a Zelda game since OoT because, surprise surprise, MM and WW were both Aonouma-directed games! This doesn't bode well for my enjoyment of TP, unfortunately, but I shall do my best to endure, and seek out whatever crumbs I can find that have fallen from the master's table.
interesting experiment: try playing as many upcomming first-party games as possible without learning who they were/weren't directed by beforehand.
Post by: Kairon on April 20, 2006, 12:59:39 AM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Garnee on April 20, 2006, 12:37:31 PM
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Originally posted by: 18 Days
I never played your dad for that very reason.
Burn.
Go ahead and send me hate mail, but I actually liked Geist more than Metroid Prime. I didn't really find it that engrossing...I like traditional shooters more, I guess.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 20, 2006, 12:54:39 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 20, 2006, 03:40:45 PM
Post by: wandering on April 24, 2006, 08:23:34 PM
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I can usually tell if the master's hand has graced the game just on pure game control and design. I'm that full of it.
heh.
You know, I actually agree that there's a noticeable difference between Miyamoto and non-Miyamoto directed games. It's just that, there are times when I feel artists other than Miyamoto, you know, add to games. Majora's Mask, for example, steals all of Miyamoto's great gameplay ideas from OOT... and then creates a dark, beautiful game with them that Miyamoto personally wouldn't have made.
Post by: Kairon on April 25, 2006, 08:42:35 PM
...j/k
It's obvious that other artists are able to achieve things that Miyamoto would never even attempt. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Miyamoto's biggest things haven't benefitted from collaboration one way or another. But I'm a hopeless Miyamoto fanboi and anything else is, well, sacrilege.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 25, 2006, 09:55:04 PM
Blashpemy is when one buys an Intended Exclusive Nintendo game(Killer 7, RE4) for the PS2. These people must die.....
Pointless post, bit intoxicated...
Post by: Kairon on April 25, 2006, 10:28:08 PM
Is it sacrilege to sacrifice one's own enjoyment by playing acclaimed games that are other system's exclusives in order to better appreciate the master? I'd gladly put myself through the hell of GTA 3: SA and Morrowind - The Elder Scrolls III just so I can understand the dark demonic forces at work against the one force of good I worship. Is it sacrilege to get pwnt in Halo and Halo 2 time after time so you can understand the mindset of mindless XBox lovers? Is it sacrilege to have suffered through hours upon hours of FF7, not even able to end your own misery because of the comatose state your mind is put in via that game, because you need to understand the enemy?
I didn't buy most of them, but played on my friend's systems, borrowed them, or spent hours watching other people play them. I even disliked or even hated all the above games to varying degrees, but as a Miyamoto fanboy I willingly subjected myself to them PRECISELY because my calling as a fanboy necessitated it.
You see, as one who yearns for deeper understanding of Miyamoto-do, I must first understand what he fights against. I must be able to understand and speak the daemonic 1337speek of Halo as if I am one them. I must be able to argue anime-derived drivel with RPGamers ably, for if I am left behind I cannot achieve success. I must be able to enter the mind of one who drives over hookers in GTA 3:SA, for only then will I know the depths of the beast that I seek to vanquish.
Sacrilege? I think not. Instead, playing games on other systems is a holy, truth-seeking, but hideous and near-fatal task that lies before any true Nintendo Fan.
... and I am not yet worthy.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: wandering on April 26, 2006, 12:39:23 AM
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Is it sacrilege to sacrifice one's own enjoyment by playing acclaimed games that are other system's exclusives in order to better appreciate the master?
No, but it is sacrilege to worship any other than the one true god. Just saying.
Post by: Kairon on April 26, 2006, 12:54:18 AM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Garnee on April 28, 2006, 05:09:25 PM
Post by: Kairon on May 01, 2006, 11:24:25 AM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: EasyCure on May 07, 2006, 09:15:00 AM
my favorite thing is to posses the rockets laying on the floor and blast the sh*t outta them becuase they dont suspect it
.so yeha, i actually liked the games albeit the controls sucked. it was so hard to aim sometimes. i'd buy a Wii version.
Post by: xts3 on May 15, 2006, 03:37:41 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 15, 2006, 08:02:26 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on May 15, 2006, 11:19:20 PM
Post by: Garnee on May 20, 2006, 06:58:27 AM
Post by: Syl on May 27, 2006, 08:44:01 AM
I don't think i'd have liked to have spent over $20.
Post by: vudu on May 30, 2006, 10:30:15 AM
In my opinion, the weakest part of the game was the weapons. Every gun felt the same, whether it was a machine gun, a pistol a rivet gun or even an demon blue-fireball thing. They were all very underwhelming. They needed more kick, better sound effects and a different feel for each.
I also didn't like the ammo system (i.e. unlimited ammo sucks). I would have much preferred having a limited number of clips available for any one host. My favorite part of the game was the second boss fight against Cord (the one in the room with the other soldiers and the two gun turrets). It was pretty frantic switching between hosts in order to kill him. There needed to be more fights like that (not necessarily boss fights). I would have liked to have stepped into the middle of a huge fight between the demons and the humans and have to possess a host, kill until I run out of ammo and then change hosts; wash, rinse repeat.
Also, the game went downhill a lot once you regain your body. I can think of only one time during that entire part where I had to leave my host. Sure, the time-warping toolwas kind of cool, but not nearly as cool as floating around in specter form.
Other than that, it was fun. As most people have pointed out, the game was too linear. But that could easily be fixed in a sequel.
Post by: Magik on May 31, 2006, 12:42:03 PM
By putting it on the Wii, the controls would have been a lot better and fixed the problems. The graphics would have definitely looked a lot better as well.
Post by: Garnee on May 31, 2006, 01:19:00 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 31, 2006, 01:30:13 PM
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 31, 2006, 08:13:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Magik
Geist was okay overall. I would have hoped it would have been pushed onto the Wii rather than the GC.
By putting it on the Wii, the controls would have been a lot better and fixed the problems. The graphics would have definitely looked a lot better as well.
I'm glad they didn't push it to the Wii. This opens it up for a sequel on the Wii where they fix alot of the problems mentioned in this thread. A Geist 2 has a lot of potential. The idea for geist was solid, and for the most part original, but the execution was a little weak. Lets hope we see a Geist 2 that carries on the spirit(no pun intended) of Geist but with a new execution and more variety.
Post by: Magik on June 01, 2006, 03:32:44 AM
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Originally posted by: Mr. JackQuote
Originally posted by: Magik
Geist was okay overall. I would have hoped it would have been pushed onto the Wii rather than the GC.
By putting it on the Wii, the controls would have been a lot better and fixed the problems. The graphics would have definitely looked a lot better as well.
I'm glad they didn't push it to the Wii. This opens it up for a sequel on the Wii where they fix alot of the problems mentioned in this thread. A Geist 2 has a lot of potential. The idea for geist was solid, and for the most part original, but the execution was a little weak. Lets hope we see a Geist 2 that carries on the spirit(no pun intended) of Geist but with a new execution and more variety.
I would have to disagree. There would have been a lot more benefit to Geist being on the Wii instead of the GC.
1.) Geist came out when the GC was practically dead or near dead. Having it on the Wii would have helped Nintendo net more sales since being a launch title would have helped the game get more attention.
2.) Geist would have been an ideal game to show case the Wiimote and how it would work for FPS.
3.) As I said before, the graphics and overall presentation would have been upgraded. Better visuals, better audio and better voice acting.
Post by: Nick DiMola on June 01, 2006, 04:41:29 AM
Post by: dack25 on June 01, 2006, 11:18:51 AM
Post by: please let me in, please on June 06, 2006, 02:04:56 PM
I thought it sucked. The controls were outdated, graphics sucked, and when you were a ghost, it still felt ( to me) like it missed something. Great concept, bad execution.
