Post by: airraid1 on March 23, 2006, 11:58:07 AM
question:
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Why didn’t you choose to support high-definition TV with Revolution?
Iwata's Answer:
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If you look at HD in the long term, you’ll see the number of TVs will shift. In the short-term, the percentage is low. Compare with what it takes to create a game with four times to six times the memory, similar factors of higher processing power. Developers are required to make those assets. For us it was more important to create this interesting new interface with the controller. In the future Nintendo will release a console that does take advantage of HD. At this point, we’ll have other functionality in the Revolution. There are other issues with HD. Now, you have a wide variety of resolutions. As we see the formats evolve, we will get a stable technology. NTSC is a stable format. It’s a matter of taking advantage of HD technology once it becomes more standard. Our focus is always next on what we can do to surprise the consumer. HD is not the best weapon. Only a small number are there...
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2006/03/gdc_an_intervie.html
So I guess that Revolution's successor will be the Nintendo console that takes advantage of HD resolutions / HDTV. does that mean a couple years after Revolution, or a full 5-year console cycle ?
interesting nevertheless. Sony was already talking PS4 as of last year. good to hear Nintendo is planning to stay in the console war beyond Revolution.
Since Nintendo is waiting what will probably be a full generation, that is, a full console lifecycle before it supports HD resolution / HDTV, when they do finally jump on board, that better include 1080(p)rogressive scan. by 2011-2012, HDTV sets that are 1080p should be widely released and in homes, and, HDTV sets in general, even ones that are just 1080i / 720p should be in a much larger percentage of homes across the world.
The Microsoft Xbox 360 is only 3/4ths of the way supporting HDTV, since it completely lacks 1080p support. The Sony PlayStation3 does support 1080p, but lacks the bandwidth and horsepower to make next-gen games feasible at that resolution at playable framerates.
1080p gaming does not make sense until the following generation consoles (Xbox720, Revolution-HD, PlayStation4) of the early part of the next decade
Post by: BlkPaladin on March 23, 2006, 12:02:16 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on March 23, 2006, 12:06:25 PM
I assume Nintendo's next console will be released five years after the Rev. The competition is far too fierce for Nintendo to be releasing new hardware so soon. They got away with that with portables because there was no competition at all.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on March 23, 2006, 12:10:41 PM
Of course, that doesn't change the fact that HDTV will be the standard eventually, anyway.
Post by: airraid1 on March 23, 2006, 12:15:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I assume Nintendo's next console will be released five years after the Rev.
exactly. that's what I was thinking.
Post by: jasonditz on March 23, 2006, 12:15:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
This isn't surprising. I assumed this just like I assumed Nintendo's console after the N64 would use optical discs and Nintendo's console after the Cube would embrace online. The issue has always been if the decision to not include HD is solid enough to last for five years without being seen as out of date. I personally think it is and that a few years from now the Rev is going to look pretty behind the times by not supporting it.
I assume Nintendo's next console will be released five years after the Rev. The competition is far too fierce for Nintendo to be releasing new hardware so soon. They got away with that with portables because there was no competition at all.
I actually admire Nintendo for this. They don't go half-assed into stuff, they wait until they can do it properly. Maybe it leaves some of their systems looking obsolete by the time they reach end of life, but you don't have to deal with stumbling blocks like multi-minute load times in your dual speed CD-ROM system.
Post by: IceCold on March 23, 2006, 01:02:37 PM
Post by: ThePerm on March 23, 2006, 03:05:25 PM
Post by: Galford on March 23, 2006, 04:26:46 PM
Post by: BigJim on March 23, 2006, 06:00:18 PM
720p is considered HD by most.
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 24, 2006, 01:08:34 AM
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No, the change to digital over-the-air broadcasts is mandated by law, not high definition
I just wanted to say that I love you, so many people don't realize this and just think digital = HD.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 24, 2006, 06:44:28 AM
Post by: ThePerm on March 25, 2006, 12:53:36 PM
Post by: MysticGohan on March 25, 2006, 07:43:17 PM
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What do you consider ED to be? Revolution will support 480p, which some consider to be ED.
720p is considered HD by most.
or 420p could be consider HD, as HDTV sets use it as well as 1080i and 720p, all are considered HD or Higher Def, compared to a normal TV ala 480i.
But to each his own defination.
Regardless 480p is still great, will look better than what we'll see on PS3 and 360 seeing them keeping there games fluid and frames smooth will be amusing.
Post by: jasonditz on March 25, 2006, 07:48:06 PM
I've seen plenty of TV's advertized as ED capable that only go up to 480p
Post by: BigJim on March 26, 2006, 08:43:40 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 26, 2006, 03:28:36 PM
Post by: vudu on March 27, 2006, 08:22:58 AM
QuoteIt's the start of the fourth pillar. Shhh...Beware the RAT.
So I guess that Revolution's successor will be the Nintendo console that takes advantage of HD resolutions / HDTV. does that mean a couple years after Revolution, or a full 5-year console cycle ?
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 27, 2006, 09:53:34 AM
Just found this interesting.
Post by: King of Twitch on March 31, 2006, 01:23:12 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 31, 2006, 07:48:31 PM
Post by: hudsonhawk on April 04, 2006, 10:42:59 AM
ED = 720 x 480, progressive scan
HD = 720p / 1080i / 1080p
There's no "to each his own definition" about it, that's what each term means.
I agree, though, that if Nintendo just came out and said "We fully support EDTV" it would clear up a lot of consumer confusion. All they've said is "We'll do progressive scan."
I've said it before, in one of the 65 other threads on the topic, but if they don't require widescreen / 480p, I probably won't get one right away. It's really annoying going back to 4:3 after getting spoiled on widescreen - it's sort of like wearing horse blinders while gaming, plus you end up wasting a third of your TV.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 04, 2006, 12:02:48 PM
The PC-influenced 640x480 is just the "middle" 640x480 pixels within the 720x480 NTSC effective canvas. Due to traditional 4:3 TV design, we usually don't see the "extra" 80 or so vert. lines on the sides cuz the frame of typical TVs overlap the sides of the picture tube (and a little off the top and bottom too).
I'm just picking the nit-tree.
