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Title: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: Pryopizm on February 26, 2006, 07:07:20 PM
Sweet Pete, the Pirate of the Jungle,  did a bit of viral marketing by finding the news story regarding Louieville and craftily spread the legend of the town that defeated its oppressors through voting them off daily.  He was careful to avoid any mention of Dafagabawat, due to the utter nihilism of the event.

Soon, the drastic measure was on everyone’s lips.  Ninja and Pirate killings were constantly on the minds of everyday townies.  The idea was soon adopted by Rio’s mayor, but with a caveat.

“We certainly cannot proceed in this fashion without some kind of safeguarding!  The idea of killing citizens off daily without some sort of trial is unfathomable.  So, as a compromise, I have randomly chosen a defense attorney and judge.  Should either of them die, they will then choose their successor; should the successor die, he will again choose who shall follow his footsteps.  We can only pray that these jobs do not fall in the wrong hands!”


The Rules:

Everyday each townsperson is allowed to vote for whomever he believes is either a Pirate or a Ninja.  Since all roles remain anonymous, Pirates and Ninjas will vote along with the townies.

If a player does not vote within a two day time-frame, that person shall be considered deceased.  However, if a player contacts the game-master to say that he will be gone for more than two days for whatever reason, then the player will be granted leave without penalty.

Pirates and Ninjas will have kills on alternating days (Pirates odd days Ninjas even days—these are not based on calendar numbers, but rather on game days, i.e. day 1 is odd, day 2 is even).  The only ones who may contact the game-master with the kill will be the head of either group.  The heads of the Pirates and Ninjas are Sweet Pete and Storm Snake respectively.  Each faction will have four members, the head and three henchmen.

Now, without further ado, I present to you the:

Dramatis Personae

Pirates – Odd Days


Headed by the fearsome Sweet Pete, Pirate of the Jungle, this scruffy band makes the town’s lives a living hell by looting and pillaging.  Somehow, though, they rarely get caught and the town simply can’t distinguish between them, the Ninjas, nor themselves.  This very well may have something to do with the town’s cultural diversity.


Ninjas – Even Days

Some consider these men to be the greater foes of the town.  Despite their leader’s name, Storm Snake, being widely known, all else about them remains a mystery.  They hold no love for either Pirate or Townsfolk and kill indiscriminately.  They’re shady, stealthy, and totally sweet.  

Senhor Policia – The head of the Detective Unit of Rio de Setembro (DUR), he runs a nightly investigation on each town member.  Due to the relatively unsophisticated computer system of the town, he can only get information on one townsperson each night.  Unfortunately, due to the strict laws preventing any actual police work, he cannot act upon any of his investigations by killing anyone.  Also, the Mafia leaders (godfathers) are invisible to Senhor Policia as they are experts at hiding in plain sight.

Piranha – This saucy maiden is quite beguiling.  She’s exceedingly wealthy, yet has never held an actual job.  How she makes her money is quite a mystery, but it may have something to do with her connections with the town’s elite and her nightly parties.

Iwamatsu the Ronin – This samurai immigrated to Rio to escape his violent past.  But the Ninjas have brought dishonor to his culture.  He has decided to take up arms each night and do battle against them.  But, he has sworn to himself, should he kill an innocent, he will perform seppuku.

Blue Bangs – A former pirate, his gang was destroyed by Sweet Pete’s rotten bunch.  He holed up with a former Ninja master and has learned the ways of Ninjutsu, making him the first ever Ninja Pirate.  His guiding light is burning hatred.  Every night he may kill off any person he chooses.

THE COURT SYSTEM

The Townies act as the Prosecutor by voting up one man whose fate will be decided by:

Phoenix Wright – Defense Attorney

This man was specially picked by the mayor.  Each night he has to decide whether or not to defend the man chosen to be prosecuted.  If he refuses, the chosen dies, if he accepts then the final decision goes to:

Judge Wapner

When Phoenix decides to defend a townie, he makes the Guilty or Not Guilty call.

Anyone who is on the docket cannot be killed that night as he is under protection of the jail guards.

IMPORTANT – THESE ROLES WILL BE PASSED ON SHOULD THEY DIE.   THE PERSON WHO HOLDS THESE ROLES WILL CHOOSE HIS SUCCESSOR.  WHEN THERE ARE FIVE OR FEWER TOWNIES, THESE POSITIONS WILL BE LIQUIDATED.

And of course The Good People of Rio de Setembro.

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions at all.      
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 26, 2006, 07:12:47 PM
Lock and load!
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2006, 07:15:27 PM
Esta vez tomaré la victoria para mí y mis compañeros
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 26, 2006, 07:25:39 PM
YOU'LL DIE ALONE

(IN)
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: MysticGohan on February 26, 2006, 07:27:40 PM
Heh, I'm in! Be afraid or... not

Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: wandering on February 26, 2006, 07:38:03 PM
Well. You don't waste any time. Awesome. I'm in.

By the way, might I humbly suggest you pick the roles with the help of a random number generator or a d20 or names in a hat or something? So we don't have to put up with stuff like:
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Originally posted by: vudu
Regardless, I'm pretty sure I know one person who is certainly mafia. Deguello. Here are my reason: Pyro didn't pick our positions randomly--he chose them for us.

There were four people who survived the original game--Bill, Pale, IceCold and TVman. Bill's not playing this game. TVman turned out to be the cop. Pale and IceCold were Godfathers. He gave all the best positions to the people who won the last game. Mario, a forum favorite, was made the captain. Ty (a mod) was given the position of Freemason. None of Pyro's favorites were made townies.

I'm pretty sure I know who the vigilante is and it's not Deguello.

This means that Deguello (also a mod) is probably in one of the two mafias. It's possible that he's even the Rat. (Although, since this is his first time playing the game Pyro might not have trusted him with such an important position, "the star of the show" as he referred to the character.)
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: MysticGohan on February 26, 2006, 07:43:55 PM
THe Star of the Show got killed
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 26, 2006, 07:48:34 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: wandering
Well. You don't waste any time. Awesome. I'm in.

By the way, might I humbly suggest you pick the roles with the help of a random number generator or a d20 or names in a hat or something? So we don't have to put up with stuff like:
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Originally posted by: vudu
Regardless, I'm pretty sure I know one person who is certainly mafia. Deguello. Here are my reason: Pyro didn't pick our positions randomly--he chose them for us.

There were four people who survived the original game--Bill, Pale, IceCold and TVman. Bill's not playing this game. TVman turned out to be the cop. Pale and IceCold were Godfathers. He gave all the best positions to the people who won the last game. Mario, a forum favorite, was made the captain. Ty (a mod) was given the position of Freemason. None of Pyro's favorites were made townies.

I'm pretty sure I know who the vigilante is and it's not Deguello.

This means that Deguello (also a mod) is probably in one of the two mafias. It's possible that he's even the Rat. (Although, since this is his first time playing the game Pyro might not have trusted him with such an important position, "the star of the show" as he referred to the character.)


Pryo claims all roles were randomly assigned and completely coincedental...
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: MysticGohan on February 26, 2006, 08:08:28 PM
I vote bill to be the hooker, as everyone would wanna ride him Bridget attracts the men hehe
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: ShyGuy on February 26, 2006, 08:43:59 PM
Judge as an official role? A defense attorney? A Ninja Yakuza boss that bears a name that is the combination of Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow?? I'm in.
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: Dasmos on February 26, 2006, 08:55:13 PM
Another one already? I'm in, and this time I won't be so easily trusting of people. I'm a gulible fool.  
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: IceCold on February 26, 2006, 09:03:39 PM
Where's Edgeworth?

I'm in..
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on February 26, 2006, 10:38:31 PM
Honestly I'm not sure I understand how to play, but I'm in.  It's fun to die.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: Bloodworth on February 26, 2006, 11:42:28 PM
Apparently TYP got the same memo.  What the crap am I doing again?
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: breakyboy on February 26, 2006, 11:49:15 PM
OK, if TYP and Bloodworth are in, I officially say I'm out of retirement.

We'll make this a PGC yarr-fest to remember.
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on February 27, 2006, 01:21:29 AM
I'm in.

And I promise to play.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: Pale on February 27, 2006, 04:49:16 AM
Man... it's soooo soooon!

Alright I'll do it!
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: Mario on February 27, 2006, 04:53:51 AM
In
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: UncleBob on February 27, 2006, 05:03:17 AM
Aye matey... no one can resist pirates and ninjas.  Unless there's a Ninja Pirate.  Then we're all screwed.
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: animecyberrat on February 27, 2006, 06:09:00 AM
ok I am in

now that I know how it works I am gonna try something different.
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: Toruresu on February 27, 2006, 06:25:07 AM
I won't miss this one! I'm in!
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: MysticGohan on February 27, 2006, 08:53:17 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: animecyberrat
ok I am in

now that I know how it works I am gonna try something different.


Lord help us all

Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: Deguello on February 27, 2006, 09:07:19 AM
I'm in on this again, because last time was not completely hideous.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: nickmitch on February 27, 2006, 09:23:58 AM
Next Monday??
Good. I'm most definately in.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 27, 2006, 10:01:05 AM
Me too!
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: vudu on February 27, 2006, 10:45:03 AM
I'm in.

Glad to see there's no Captain or Rat.  No hidden characters, please?

Finally, I'd like to say that just because I lied to everyone last game, doesn't mean I'll do the same this game.  Please don't kill me on the first day.

EDIT:  Jeez, these rules are complicated.
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Blue Bangs – A former pirate, his gang was destroyed by Sweet Pete’s rotten bunch. He holed up with a former Ninja master and has learned the ways of Ninjutsu, making him the first ever Ninja Pirate. His guiding light is burning hatred. Every night he may kill off any person he chooses.
This position is the same as the serial killer, right?  Because for a second I thought the Rat had returned.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates)
Post by: stevey on February 27, 2006, 11:14:11 AM
VEDETTA!, I'm in.  
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Pryopizm on February 27, 2006, 11:27:02 AM
Alright, quick update.  I have added the rules and descriptions of the various roles to the original post.  Any questions?  Please PM me.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Pryopizm on February 27, 2006, 12:15:13 PM
If roles are being passed on this time, does that mean 1 person can end up with more than 1 role?

Are the judge and attorney public roles or hidden roles like the rest?


Yes, it is possible that people who have assigned roles could end up with the Judge/Phoenix roles.  All roles are hidden.  There will be no public roles.
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on February 27, 2006, 12:28:05 PM
For good or for bad, I'm in.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on February 27, 2006, 02:19:05 PM
So, what, is this Day 1?
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Pryopizm on February 27, 2006, 02:22:08 PM
Day 1 is Monday.  That's when the game begins.  I'm going to end signups on Thursday night and assign roles on Friday.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Infernal Monkey on February 27, 2006, 03:08:34 PM
I still have no idea how this is meant to be played, aside from creating dupe accounts to PM everyone about the price of milk and how it affects our lives before voting people off the island. But count me in!
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: UncleBob on February 27, 2006, 05:53:08 PM
Well, damn, there's a Ninja Pirate.  We're all screwed now.

Seriously, a few questions...

The Attoney/Judge positions - these could possibly go to a Mafia member or whomever?  This seems... icky to me - giving the Mafias more potential for power.  But it could be interesting.

Second, can we have some firm - written - rules concerning the dead - what they can/cannot do and what kind of harsh punishment they'll be given for breaking the rules?

Third - While I don't expect Pryo to be on the boards every night at X O'clock, can we have an exact time to know when the vote ends?  Just for reference?

Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: nickmitch on February 27, 2006, 06:46:48 PM
Will there still be gun deaths or can we have an old fashioned hanging like in the pirate days?
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Infernal Monkey on February 27, 2006, 07:38:49 PM
Everyone will walk the plank, while being shot at.
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Toruresu on February 28, 2006, 02:30:58 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
Well, damn, there's a Ninja Pirate.  We're all screwed now.

Seriously, a few questions...

The Attoney/Judge positions - these could possibly go to a Mafia member or whomever?  This seems... icky to me - giving the Mafias more potential for power.  But it could be interesting.


Definately, but, if I understood correctly, the roles aren't public, so we could end up voting the Judge/Attorney by mistake, right? Wouldn't this affect the game balance? Unless townies knew who the judge/attorney are at all times, that way if a pirate king of ninja master gets to be the judge, we could vote him out (we would need to find out first). <-- Am I making sense?
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Pryopizm on February 28, 2006, 02:55:38 AM
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Originally posted by: Toruresu
Quote

Originally posted by: UncleBob
Well, damn, there's a Ninja Pirate.  We're all screwed now.

Seriously, a few questions...

The Attoney/Judge positions - these could possibly go to a Mafia member or whomever?  This seems... icky to me - giving the Mafias more potential for power.  But it could be interesting.


Definately, but, if I understood correctly, the roles aren't public, so we could end up voting the Judge/Attorney by mistake, right? Wouldn't this affect the game balance? Unless townies knew who the judge/attorney are at all times, that way if a pirate king of ninja master gets to be the judge, we could vote him out (we would need to find out first). <-- Am I making sense?



Alright, here's the balance.  And I've added this to the official rules.  Anyone who is voted is protected by any kind of hit.  In the unlikely event that a Pirate or Ninja should get both Phoenix and Judge roles, that is their reward.  But, they are only protected when the townsfolk vote for them.  There are three other people trying to kill him.  On any given night that he is not on the docket, he is not protected.  

The Judge and Phoenix roles MUST be kept confidential.  Pirates and Ninjas would literally kill for that role.

Keep in mind, when there are FIVE or Fewer players left, the Court will be dissolved.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: UncleBob on February 28, 2006, 04:18:34 AM
Does the Judge/Attoney know who each other is?
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: ShyGuy on February 28, 2006, 07:13:30 AM
hmm interesting. If you had the judge in your pocket, you could actually protect yourself from being murdered that night by getting everyone to vote for you.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 28, 2006, 07:46:40 AM
That's only if you have both the DA AND Judge in your pocket...The Defense Attorney could easily decide not to defend you...
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2006, 07:56:52 AM
I like the new layer of strategy that has been added.
Imagine DA & Judge in the same mafia, that would be a pain in the ass for the townies
they could never vote out those two members of the mafia as long as someone is always voting for them, they would have to die another way.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: Pale on February 28, 2006, 09:13:39 AM
Could judge and da start as mafia?  Meaning, are those jobs pulled from the entire pool on the first night? or only from those who didn't get job's assigned...

Also, if either is killed, will we be told they were a judge/da, or will they be quietly re-assigned so only the new judge/da would know?
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! (Ninjas vs Pirates) Rules and Roles
Post by: MaryJane on February 28, 2006, 12:51:39 PM
Sign me up with your tainted little indiscretions.

Wooop prepare to be owned by someone who doesn't understand anything.  
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! LAST CALL
Post by: Pryopizm on March 02, 2006, 07:10:41 AM
One other question about the cop, if the mafia henchmen is also, for instance, the Judge. Will the cop be informed on both the players roles, or only one?

The cop will be informed of both roles.
Title: RE:MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! LAST CALL
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 02, 2006, 07:39:09 AM
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The cop will be informed of both roles.


wait, so the cop will always know the real identity of the DA and the Judge?

So if Mafia runs the court, the cop will know what exactly, just the player name, or also their role as mafia?

p.s. I know the question sounds like it was answered in the quote, but I need a more definative answer.

I'm pretty sure you meant that the cop will know the player name and their role as either DA or Judge, but I just want to be sure.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! LAST CALL
Post by: Pryopizm on March 02, 2006, 08:10:02 AM
Okay, say the cop finds a Mafia Henchman who happens to be the Judge.  I will inform him of both roles.  But once the henchman dies, the job is passed on and the cop is once again in the dark as to who the judge is.
Title: RE: MAFIA III: Operation Revolucion! LAST CALL
Post by: Pryopizm on March 02, 2006, 01:17:05 PM
Sign ups are over.  I will begin making assignments now!  If you do not hear from me by Friday morning through PM, that means you are a Townie.  If you're not sure, PM me and I will specify what role you are.