Post by: ShyGuy on February 22, 2006, 04:44:02 PM
I guess it should be obvious who the real Mafia are now...
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 22, 2006, 04:53:31 PM
(Even though I wanted to die at the end of the last game...Pryo sucks!)
Post by: Big_Brother on February 22, 2006, 05:11:58 PM
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I guess it should be obvious who the real Mafia are now...
Things are rarely as clear as they first appear.
Remember that.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 22, 2006, 05:21:09 PM
Edit:
Pryopizm says: I MUST HAF PURFECT GRAMMER FOR LOL
Post by: Mario on February 22, 2006, 05:32:05 PM
We need the vigilante to work some of his mystic vudu tonight.
Whoops i'm not dead! Time to creep out of here...
Post by: animecyberrat on February 22, 2006, 05:33:27 PM
Also even though theres an easy way to figure out who is mafia and who isnt theres still finding out who is the rat and who is whatever roels are left. and whos in which mafia.
Soanyways I read people were calling me stupid yet they dindt realize I did what I did for a reason, whihc now only 1 person knows anything about and I cant say anything about who he/she is or what they may or may not know
Post by: animecyberrat on February 22, 2006, 05:44:48 PM
Post by: Pale on February 22, 2006, 05:55:33 PM
Then you guys all get lucky and I happen to be the godfather of the other mafia...
PS: Bill Cheats!
Post by: nickmitch on February 22, 2006, 06:07:08 PM
Personally, I think Pale was behind my death. His new mod powers must've gotten to him since he and Ty alone had the ability to know and he was a mob boss.
Post by: Big_Brother on February 22, 2006, 06:09:52 PM
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You took one for the team, and the team now has the lens of truth.
More like the lens of falsehood.
Post by: IceCold on February 22, 2006, 06:11:10 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on February 22, 2006, 06:30:18 PM
either that or people just don't like me but I still was trying pretty hard to get noticed. Also I still find it fishy that the person who didnt vote for me voted for pale, and pale dies. fishy I think.
Post by: ShyGuy on February 22, 2006, 06:42:01 PM
If Captain Lavendar brings me back, I'm goin to go all "The Crow" on the criminal scum
"It's not a good day to be a bad guy"
Post by: Pale on February 23, 2006, 02:43:27 AM
Edit: Man that's a lot of typos.... I'll leave them for fun. My fingers move faster than my brain apparently.
Post by: animecyberrat on February 23, 2006, 05:36:33 AM
But i knew I was gonna dei early so I went all out that nite I died.
Post by: ShyGuy on February 23, 2006, 06:37:00 AM
Post by: Big_Brother on February 23, 2006, 06:53:58 AM
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We need the vigilante to work some of his mystic vudu tonight.
Unsubstantiated.
Rumor.
Mongering.
Mario was so willing to spew vile lies.
It makes me laugh.
Good thing the vigilante is smart.
He knows vudu is innocent.
I know vudu is innocent.
Don't believe the lies!
Post by: Toruresu on February 23, 2006, 09:43:33 AM
I couldn't even play! Be grateful that you atleast did that ; )
Post by: Pale on February 23, 2006, 12:54:40 PM
The Rat seriously BREAKS the game in so many ways...
If the rat's goal is to kill everyone, the ideal way to do that is to take control of both mafia's. Well in order to do that the godfathers have to die... Oh wow, he knows who the godfathers are....
Now, he can easily just leak this info... if when they die, he doesn't get appointed new godfather, he leaks it again. Basically, the rat makes it impossible for the mafia's to ever win.
The fact that he is only supposed to leak one every 3 days is irrelevant. He knows who the townies are because he knows who the mafia is. He can just tell whoever the heck he wants.
Post by: Mario on February 23, 2006, 03:56:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Big_BrotherQuote
We need the vigilante to work some of his mystic vudu tonight.
Unsubstantiated.
Rumor.
Mongering.
Mario was so willing to spew vile lies.
It makes me laugh.
Good thing the vigilante is smart.
He knows vudu is innocent.
I know vudu is innocent.
Don't believe the lies!
So that confirms Mystic is in the mafia
Post by: Mario on February 23, 2006, 03:58:44 PM
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Originally posted by: Pale
Man, so is it too early to complain?
The Rat seriously BREAKS the game in so many ways...
If the rat's goal is to kill everyone, the ideal way to do that is to take control of both mafia's. Well in order to do that the godfathers have to die... Oh wow, he knows who the godfathers are....
Now, he can easily just leak this info... if when they die, he doesn't get appointed new godfather, he leaks it again. Basically, the rat makes it impossible for the mafia's to ever win.
The fact that he is only supposed to leak one every 3 days is irrelevant. He knows who the townies are because he knows who the mafia is. He can just tell whoever the heck he wants.
With two mafia members left, one being the rat, you'd think the other person would know for 100% certainty who the rat is... he's not all that safe.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 23, 2006, 03:59:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Pale
Man, so is it too early to complain?
The Rat seriously BREAKS the game in so many ways...
omg top tier
Post by: vudu on February 23, 2006, 04:26:07 PM
QuoteI know I'm not supposed to be in here, but I couldn't resist.
With two mafia members left, one being the rat, you'd think the other person would know for 100% certainty who the rat is... he's not all that safe.
The Rat is perfectly safe from his fellow mafia members. He only has to fear the townies. That is, until the captain brings someone back. If the Rat dies, the captain will most likely bring him back, in which case he'll squeal on his former teammates, winning the game for the townies. The true mafia henchmen can't get rid of him until the Captain uses up his life-giving powers on someone else.
Post by: wandering on February 23, 2006, 04:43:21 PM
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The Rat seriously BREAKS the game in so many ways.
I'm sorry, I'm supposed to feel sorry for the godfathers? The most powerful players in the whole game?
Post by: Pale on February 23, 2006, 05:36:47 PM
Sheesh.
Edit: I should have known better than to complain, but does anyone at least see my point?
Post by: vudu on February 23, 2006, 05:41:36 PM
QuoteIf memory serves, you were responsible for one of those deaths.
Originally posted by: Pale
So powerful we both died on the second day?
Sheesh.
Post by: Pale on February 23, 2006, 05:45:27 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 23, 2006, 05:46:44 PM
Post by: vudu on February 23, 2006, 05:51:08 PM
QuoteWeren't you killed by the vigilante?
Originally posted by: Pale
Yeah, and I almost feel guilty about it cause I'm so confident the Rat was the cause of my own death... I just made his job easier so he didn't have to worry about killing Ice off the next day.
Post by: Mario on February 23, 2006, 05:55:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
This game has been pretty embarassing for the townies...Good job killing off all the friendlies, guys!
Yes... this is hard to watch.
Post by: UncleBob on February 23, 2006, 05:58:33 PM
Post by: wandering on February 23, 2006, 06:03:56 PM
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Edit: I should have known better than to complain, but does anyone at least see my point?
I see your point, but no individual player has it good in this game. The question that concerns me is: is the balance between the townies and the mafia good? At this point, the mafia seem to be kicking our collective asses.
As for whether the rat has it too good: is he really in that much better of a position than the serial killer from the last game?
Post by: wandering on February 23, 2006, 06:09:03 PM
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Well, it's bedtime for me... Guess I'll wake up tommrow to see what horrors I've caused...
Not even going to pick between deg and vudu? Bah.
Post by: Mario on February 23, 2006, 06:16:54 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 23, 2006, 07:19:09 PM
Post by: wandering on February 23, 2006, 07:54:45 PM
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If the Rat dies, the captain will most likely bring him back, in which case he'll squeal on his former teammates, winning the game for the townies.
Unfortunatley, this town has little to no chance of voting off the rat, or any of the mafia members, at all, ever.
I think we need a resurrection now to survive.
If it were me, I'd pick animecyberat...because I couldn't resist an oppertunity to make "Mafia 2: The Rat" wind up being all about "the rat"....
But I guess it'd make more sense to pick pale since the kaplans are the bigger threat at this point.
What's that? I need to stop crashing this ghost party? Sorry.
Post by: Bloodworth on February 23, 2006, 07:55:17 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 23, 2006, 08:37:55 PM
Post by: Big_Brother on February 23, 2006, 08:39:04 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 23, 2006, 08:39:11 PM
Post by: Mario on February 23, 2006, 08:40:20 PM
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Originally posted by: Big_Brother
Yes.
Whoops
Post by: Big_Brother on February 23, 2006, 08:44:42 PM
Big_Brother does not make mistakes.
Do you understand?
Post by: ShyGuy on February 23, 2006, 08:46:39 PM
Post by: Big_Brother on February 23, 2006, 08:54:59 PM
Post by: IceCold on February 23, 2006, 09:21:46 PM
My henchmen were Slippy, Peppy and Falco.
Post by: wandering on February 23, 2006, 10:02:54 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 24, 2006, 02:38:06 AM
More like all townies suck at being able to deduce that Deg was the Vigilante like Mario was...Mario attempted to sacrifice a townie for the vigilante to make a kill, but Deg apparently didn't know that there was a PM function at PGC, and didn't make his kill (WTF?)...
Post by: Pale on February 24, 2006, 04:22:13 AM
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Originally posted by: vuduQuoteWeren't you killed by the vigilante?
Originally posted by: Pale
Yeah, and I almost feel guilty about it cause I'm so confident the Rat was the cause of my own death... I just made his job easier so he didn't have to worry about killing Ice off the next day.
Yeah I was killed by the vigilante... but what the heck could make him soooo sure I was mafia to put his own life on the line? This is where I'm convinced the Rat tipped him off... I guess we can ask him now.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 24, 2006, 04:27:41 AM
Post by: Mario on February 24, 2006, 05:14:12 AM
Oh, look! I didn't know vudu had MSN, cool, i'd like a nice chat with him. To my dismay, his status fell to offline. I felt a bit sad, maybe he didn't like me? I was about to ask MysticGohan what was up, but he left! Oh dear! I asked Bill, he didn't know WHAT was going on!
Turns out I must have been dreaming, because MysticGohan "doesn't know" how that chat where you add people by clicking names in an alphabetical order list got there. BlackNMild, who's name starts with a letter between C and A, also probably didn't know, though I didn't mention anything about it to him, because it was just a dream, after all.
Post by: Deguello on February 24, 2006, 05:55:40 AM
I turned out to be surprisingly effective, yes?
Post by: ShyGuy on February 24, 2006, 07:48:09 AM
Post by: vudu on February 24, 2006, 08:04:00 AM
QuoteYeah, I have MSN, but I never use it. I actually use Trillain, which is a program that combines AIM, MSN, Yahoo and ICQ.
Oh, look! I didn't know vudu had MSN, cool, i'd like a nice chat with him. To my dismay, his status fell to offline. I felt a bit sad, maybe he didn't like me? I was about to ask MysticGohan what was up, but he left! Oh dear! I asked Bill, he didn't know WHAT was going on!
Not sure if you're familiar with Trillian, but it allows you to talk with peoplel while keeping your status set to away. I actually tried sending a message to Bill yesterday but for some reaon I kept getting an error message saying the message was undeliverable. Eventually I gave up.
Post by: Pryopizm on February 24, 2006, 08:06:58 AM
Post by: UncleBob on February 24, 2006, 08:32:02 AM
Post by: Pale on February 24, 2006, 09:13:24 AM
But you and vudu shouldn't be able to talk in the afterlife...
Post by: animecyberrat on February 24, 2006, 09:38:12 AM
Post by: vudu on February 24, 2006, 09:53:23 AM
QuoteEver heard of a séance? Yeah, that's right, I'm channeling you, punk.
Originally posted by: Pale
But you and vudu shouldn't be able to talk in the afterlife...
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on February 24, 2006, 10:02:34 AM
Post by: Pale on February 24, 2006, 10:25:17 AM
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Post by: stevey on February 24, 2006, 10:54:45 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 24, 2006, 11:16:59 AM
Post by: Pryopizm on February 24, 2006, 11:24:46 AM
Post by: animecyberrat on February 24, 2006, 04:36:04 PM
Post by: Mario on February 24, 2006, 04:42:53 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on February 24, 2006, 04:51:41 PM
Post by: Mario on February 24, 2006, 06:45:02 PM
How do you feel that the townies neglected to save you?
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on February 25, 2006, 02:40:06 AM
Sould I say names?
Post by: Mario on February 25, 2006, 03:12:32 AM
What amuses me the most is how long Kirby has lived without even playing.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on February 25, 2006, 03:31:03 AM
...Or he could just have forgotten to post.
Post by: UncleBob on February 25, 2006, 03:37:55 AM
Post by: stevey on February 25, 2006, 04:29:55 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 25, 2006, 06:08:42 AM
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Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot
Well, right nnow I'm a bit annoyed, mostly at the fact that I am 99% certain of three Mafia members.
Sould I say names?
DUH GUH FUH BUH WHAT?
Post by: animecyberrat on February 25, 2006, 09:02:07 AM
Post by: Mario on February 25, 2006, 05:26:43 PM
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What amuses me the most is how long Kirby has lived without even playing.
What's even more 'amusing' now is that the outcome of the game rests on whether or not Kirby appears.
Post by: vudu on February 25, 2006, 06:27:38 PM
Hey everyone. Sorry to all the people I lied to. It was all part of the game. I hope there are no hard feelings.
Pale, I want you to know that I never turned against you. It was blind luck that Deg killed you on that second night.
TVman, don't feel too bad about giving yourself away on that first day. I knew you were the cop anyway, so you would have been killed anyway if we didn't vote you off.
It's been a blast; 'til next time.
Post by: MysticGohan on February 25, 2006, 06:38:06 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on February 25, 2006, 06:42:31 PM
Post by: IceCold on February 25, 2006, 06:48:45 PM
Post by: vudu on February 25, 2006, 07:17:46 PM
QuoteYeah, um, well, kinda. I never told Pale you were Reggie Godfather. However, we did discuss who to kill and your name came up (among others). But it was Pale who made the final decision.
Originally posted by: IceCold
You betrayed me vudu!
Sorry, Boss.
Post by: Pale on February 25, 2006, 07:20:56 PM
Pretending to be OK with the cop dying the first round... blah.
That is just kind of proof of why the whole rat talking to the cop thing is useless...
PS
Good show, vudu, good show.
Post by: vudu on February 26, 2006, 04:11:44 AM
QuoteI don't understand. Please clarify.
Pretending to be OK with the cop dying the first round... blah.
Post by: Pale on February 26, 2006, 06:25:39 AM
There are many things about this round that confused me that I don't feel like I can talk about yet. But that's just one issue.
Post by: Pryopizm on February 26, 2006, 06:47:25 AM
It was good drama and it only slightly affected the game. Notice he didn't give away ALL the Mafia members. But, yeah, Vudu knew what I'd allow and what I wouldn't, so this was sanctioned by me.
Post by: animecyberrat on February 26, 2006, 07:42:06 AM
Post by: Pryopizm on February 26, 2006, 07:54:14 AM
Post by: vudu on February 26, 2006, 09:10:12 AM
QuoteI only gave away my colleges because I knew I was on my deathbed. Plus, it was in my character to betray the people who betrayed me. If I were a regular mafia henchman I wouldn't have ratted because it wouldn't have worked in reality. I would have rather the mafia win even if I wasn't a part of it. However, in my particular case, I would rather the townies win just to spite those that turned against me. (Although in all fairness, I was about to turn against them. But hey, them are the breaks.)
Originally posted by: Pryopizm
The reason I allowed him to leak the info was because he was dead, it was day six, he only leaked two people, he was betrayed, AND there was was no cop since Day One.
QuoteActually, it could last another day after today. Depending on how the vote goes today.
Originally posted by: Pryopizm
No. Today is the last day.
Post by: Pryopizm on February 26, 2006, 09:23:10 AM
Post by: wandering on February 26, 2006, 01:23:49 PM
edit: also, I object to early poll closing time.
Post by: Dasmos on February 26, 2006, 01:41:47 PM
Post by: wandering on February 26, 2006, 01:43:00 PM
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No more games. I know you're planning on voting for me. Please, don't. Even if you succeeded in getting me voted off, shyguy would kill you, kirby would be left standing, and the townies would win. And neither of us want that.
I hope you'll agree that only one strategy makes any sense now: we both need to vote for kirby.
Then, once he's taken care of, I'll use my mafia powers to kill shyguy, and shyguy will use his vigilante powers to kill either me or you.
This way, we'll both have a 50/50 shot at winning. Which is better than nothing.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2006, 02:15:34 PM
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Originally posted by: wandering
Bah. What the hell were you thinking, BlackNMild?
I did it for the ending, everybody lost, & nobody won. I could have trusted you, but then you could have won & i didn't want that. I figured it was best to just kill everyone and leave no survivors this time.
Dagafabawat Population = 0
Post by: vudu on February 26, 2006, 02:47:53 PM
Post by: Pryopizm on February 26, 2006, 02:49:42 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2006, 03:03:57 PM
If me and wandering could have voted off kirby.
Wandering would then Mafia hit ShyGuy
and ShyGuy could murder either Me or Wandering
50/50 chance I win, 100% chance Mafia wins
But the other mafia is my rival, I wouldn't want them to have the satisfaction.
My survival was not a guaranteed thing,
so I took only way out I could w/o letting someone else have the victory.
And that was to make sure that nobody won.
If I can't have it, then you can't either
Post by: Mario on February 26, 2006, 03:11:53 PM
BTW I sent in ShyGuy because we had already figured out who everyone was, my timing could have been better though. I didn't expect UncleBob and Stabby to die in that timespan. The townies didn't really deserve to win this one.
Also I could have sent him in when there were only 2 or 3 people left, and it would have been an instant townie win since three people would have to die and the person I sent in would be invincible, but that would have been too cheap.
Post by: ShyGuy on February 26, 2006, 03:53:10 PM
And Mario is right, Townies did play a horrible game, but The Mafia really did their jobs well too.
Whoever sees Kirby in a thread next needs to flick him in the ear, figuratively speaking.
Post by: animecyberrat on February 26, 2006, 05:07:25 PM
Post by: Mario on February 26, 2006, 05:26:29 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2006, 05:28:51 PM
Next time you should try and be a little less obvious,
and things might actually go your way next time
Post by: animecyberrat on February 26, 2006, 05:36:38 PM
Post by: wandering on February 26, 2006, 07:45:41 PM
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And that was to make sure that nobody won.
One thing I don't understand: how did you know kirby wasn't going to have won? Or, for that matter, ShyGuy? You didn't have a kill that night. I would've guessed ShyGuy and kirby would've been left standing at the end
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well I have to say it didnt go how I expected it, I ws trying to get wandering killed off early on, and then I got killed. But I wanted to die early because I didnt want to be a part of the reggie mafia. I am THE RAT and I so wanted to be the rat in this game. That woudl haev worked out better for me. but then again nobody cares what i think so....
Yeah, but you weren't the rat and so what you were doing was pointless and annoying.
...well, actually though, you bring up a good point. Why have a 'rat' role at all, when players can choose to betray their teammates anyway just to ensure they get all the power and fame?
...not that that is a good strategy at all, mind you.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2006, 08:00:31 PM
I thought it would have been funny if Kirby did live, but he suffocated in a trash bag, to removed on tuesday which happens to be trash day in the Town of Dagafabawat.
I even had a whole scenario for how I thought it might end.
Since it would have only been Me & Shy left I pictured us having a huge gun battle and basically destroying the entire town. Just when almost everything is detroyed, we end up taking each other out with head shots and/or explosions. And after all the dust settled, the walls would fall off of Kirby's house, and there was kirby sitting on the toilet eating cheetos. Completely oblivious to everything that has happened over the last week.
I though it would have been funny.
Post by: MysticGohan on February 26, 2006, 08:05:21 PM
Post by: wandering on February 26, 2006, 09:32:46 PM
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I think an interesting idea would be for people to jot down all their thoughts and plans in notepad or something and paste it here after the game's over, would be interesting to see all the different strategies going on and who was right about what, who changed their minds about what, etc.
DIARY OF A MOBSTER:
-Day ONE-
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[to: IceCold]
I humbly await your instructions.
Long live the reggielution!
Your loyal servant, Wandering
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[to: The Detective]
You find a note stuck to the gum on your shoe:
"If you're really the detective, here's a 3 step plan to succeess:
1. Forget this detective account. That was just a joke.
2. Make another detective account, call it "The REAL detective". Make it in a public library. In the next town over.
3. Share everything with us!
Just a suggestion.
Your friend, Wandering"
(vudu asked why why we were voting for tvman, guessed that he was the cop, asked if I'd been in contact with IceCold, asked if we had a strategy.)
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[to: vudu]
I contacted icecold for orders earlier today, he didn't reply.
I don't know about tvman, but I think that, when in doubt, going with the flow is generally the best strategy.
I think it would be wise if the 4 of us started having aim-style real-time discussions to hash out a strategy. Cause, I don't think we really have a strategy at this point.
(IceCold contacted me about contact information, how we should discuss things, and wheter I had been in contact with animecyberat)
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[to: IceCold]
I think it would be good if the four of us chatted together in real-time, say, once every mafia-day.
My email and MSN is censored and my aim is censored.
Just about anytime's good for me.
Oh, no, cyberrat didn't contact me at all. His voting for me might've been a ruse. Or maybe he's just completley cluless.
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[to: IceCold]
Oh, 3 more things I forgot:
1. I'm not sure I was clear in my last pm. Since I'm not constantly available, I think it'd be best if most communications were done with pms. Or email's fine too. (I don't see any reason to use email over pms, personally, but whatever you guys want.) BUT, I really think we should schedule an msn (or aim) chat session at a specific time once a day, as there are a million things to discuss (whom we suspect, who it would be best to vote for, etc, etc) and I think it would be easier to do that over chat.
2. vudu pmed me once yesterday. He guessed, correctly, that TVman was the cop.
3. Our biggest threat right now is the rat (the role, not cyberrat. you know what I mean.) Even with the cop gone. He wants to see us all killed and knows who every mafia member is. The biggest danger is that he could try and direct the other team into taking us out. He could also try and confer with players privatley in an attempt to sway people to vote against us.
...don't tell the other 2 henchmen that! Don't want the rat getting ideas.
-Wandering
...Oh, wait a minute. About the email thing. With email it'd be easy to just forward all (most) communications to all members of the mafia. That might make things a lot easier. Email probably would be better.
- Day TWO-
(animecyberrat, after having voted for me on day one, hints at my mafia connections)
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[to: animecyberat]
Any reason in particular you're trying to have me killed?
(vudu explains he had voted for animecyberat)
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[to: vudu]
Alright, I'll start sending my pms to both of you guys, too.
vudu, earlier I contacted icecold and suggested we should set up a time for an msn chat. I think it'd be good to hash out ideas together, what do you think?
also vudu, even though I think in this case you made the right decision, I think you REALLY shouldn't condemn one of our own to death (which is basically what you just did) without running it past us, or at least our godfather.
I'm not sure cyberrat even knows how to check pms. I sent him one earlier ("So. Is there a reason you're trying to get me killed?", asked I.)
...I can use a ruse to get him to check them ("hey did you get this PM I sent you? Here's how you check PMs...", in non-mafia thread). Should I? It would suck if he checked, and then posted "Hey I got this message that says me, vudu, and icecold are members of the Reggie mafia, what does that mean?"
-Wandering
cc: IceCold
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[to: vudu]
Oh, just one more thing, should we be doing this in email? It might be easier. Mine is *censored*
IceCold already gave me yours and his.
cc: IceCold
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[to: vudu]
alright, I'm going to switch over to conversing with email to you guys, if that's alright. That'll make it much easier to forward. Also, I've almost reached the stupid PM message limit.
cc: IceCold
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[to: vudu cc: IceCold subject: mafia]
"I'm not trying to kill one of my own. Well, maybe I am. Like I said, he's a liability. I'm a little worried that he's going to give us away.
I'm planning on removing my vote later."
Doesn't matter. He's dead at this point unless we work, hard, to change the tide. And that would be very risky.
"*vudu says he's unavailable at such and such a time for such and such a reason*"
Irony of ironies, I probably won't be available tonight from *this time to that time*. That may change - I'll contact you guys if it does. Otherwise, I'm available most anytime for other days. Would *** be good tomorrow? That's around when things start happening. Oh, forgot to tell you, this email is my MSN account name as well.
"I don't really have much experience with MSN even though I have it. It's not possible for other people to see we're in a private chat, is it?"
I don't have much experience with it either. But I doubt it. Either way, we should be able to see for ourselves once we start using it.
Oh, one more thing. You guys thinking ShyGuy is a Kaplanite? Look at these quotes:
"I think Vudu's first instincts were right. Vote TVman"
I think most people were treating that vote like a wild guess. But not ShyGuy. Suspicious.
"Hmmm, Vudu is starting another bandwagon. Does this seem like Mafia activity to anybody?"
Also suspicious. He just sounds like a mafia member, doesn't he? Or is it just me?
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[to: vudu cc: IceCold subject: Re: Mafia]
Right, right, you said that earlier. Sorry. Would *** be a good time? For chatting, I mean?
Though, honestly, messaging seems to be working just fine. Chatting might be unnecessary.
Oh, in regards to your other email about cyberrat, yes, if he's going down, we should probably vote for him. Just before polls close, though. There's a good chance cyberrat will try to rat us out with his dying breath if he sees us turning on him. Me and icecold, I mean.
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[to: IceCold subject: godfather]
Godfather,
Here's one message I'm not forwarding to vudu.
If animecyberrat dies tonight and it's revealed that he's the rat, that's fantastic. But if it's revealed that he wasn't the rat, then that's another matter. Vudu has already essentially caused animecyberrat's death, without consulting us first. If animecyberrat isn't the rat, vudu is.
So, when voting closes, if animecyberrat is revealed as having not been the rat, you should use your godfather powers to kill vudu tonight. Otherwise, by thursday it could already be too late - vudu could manipulate votes to ensure the death of one of us the next day, and then orchestrate the killing of our last remaining member with his other mafia the next night.
If vudu is the rat. If animecyberrat isn't.
Just a suggestion.
-Wandering
P.S. Is this email thing working out for you? I noticed in one of your pms you said you weren't on msn much, did you mean to chat, or were you referring to email too? Cause I can switch back to using PGC PMs if you'd prefer.
(IceCold suggests we should probably let animecyberrat go, and that either me or IceCold should vote for him, but not both, so that we can maintain a policy of staggering our votes, which we couldn't do in this case because we feared an early vote for animecyberrat might lead him to rat us out. Also says that he suspects ShyGuy.)
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[to: IceCold cc: vudu subject: RE: RE: RE: mafia]
If only one of the 2 of us is going to vote, you should, IceCold. I voted yesterday, and you didn't, if I recall.
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[to: IceCold cc: vudu subject: mafia again]
Actually, sorry, scratch what I just said. the rat has implicated me. I need to vote for him. I'm thinking now. This puts me at risk, but I think IceCold should be okay. Then, IceCold can put in his vote a few minutes before the polls close.
Thoughts?
(meanwhile, animecyberrat explains he didn't understand the voting and thought we were just playing a game)
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we are just playing a game.
Do you understand what your role is? Did you confirm your role with pryopism? Do you understand that you aren't supposed to give away this role?
Do you understand that implicating both me and vudu as being in league with you is a very bad idea?
(animecyberrat explains he didn't know we were on the same team until I pmed him)
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[to: animecyberrat]
Listen to me. NOTHING I can do would help you. You have too many votes against you. You won't be apart of this game after tonight.
So that people don't suspect me I NEED to vote for you. DO NOT tell others players about my role. DO NOT hint that there is any relationship between me and you or between you and vudu or anyone else. DO NOT tell people you thought we were friends. DO NOT share what I am telling you now with ANYONE. Do you understand that?
(I'm going to forward this note and my previous one to the other 2 members.)
(animecyberrat explains that in the game, his character had sent a voicemail to me explaining he had slept with TVman's wife)
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[to: animecyberrat]
In the game, come to my cheezerium. Order some cheese. Don't tell em I sent ya.
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[to: vudu, IceCold]
*I reprint the notes I sent to animecyberrat*
He says he's cool with it. I've voted for him. You should, too icecold. Later, though. We need to be able to use the fact that various people didn't vote for him tomorrow.
(around this time we chatted on msn. From memory: We played with the idea that it might be better to keep the vigilante and possibly the kaplans alive because of lavender, but decided against it. Vudu noted that, is animecyberrat wasn't the rat, me and him would both deny it. We tossed names around: was Pale mafia? ShyGuy? UncleBob? Vudu noted that, with only 3 of us, we needed to do a better job of protecting ourselves. "No leaving our members to die anymore?" asked I. Also, I suggested a strategy: we should pm various people who voted for animerat, pointing out to them the 5 or so people who didn't.)
(meanwhile, mario pms a bunch of people telling them he suspects pale.)
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[to: mario]
arg, this is ridiculusly last minute. What part ofQuote
Hahah appletini. What a final drink to have.
But seriously? Ty is gone already?
makes you think he's a mobster?
(the part about how he goes on about how 'ty's really gone?' even though that was just explained multiple times in pryo's preceding paragraph, says mario)
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[to: mario]
Ah, okay, I see what you're saying now. Good spot. Too late for me to feel comfortable changing my vote today, but tomorrow's just a day away...
(meanwhile, vudu notes anime is a goner, says he thinks ShyGuy is suspicious, and thinks the same of mario, who's been "strangely quiet")
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[to: vudu cc: IceCold subject: RE: mafia]
If cyberrat is the rat, and I've become pretty convinced that he is, then the mafia members have given themselves away.
unclebob voted for vudu. shyguy didn't vote. Pale didn't vote. Those are my 3 picks for most likely.
Kirby and Dasmos didn't participate. They're my 4th and 5th most likelys.
Mario originally voted for cyberrat but then changed his vote to pale. He told me in a pm he thinks pale's posts, especially his first in the new thread, have been suspicious (I told him this was ridiculusly last minute and asked him what about pale's appletini comment he found suspicious.) Strangely enough, I believe mario. Or at least, I believe he's not a mobster. He's my 6th most likely.
...wait. pale just voted for the rat. so did the rat.
I have some ideas I want to share with you guys when/if we find out the rat was the rat. Which should be in a few minutes.
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[to: IceCold subject: Oh god - mafia]
Vudu is the rat. Man, this sucks.
It was so obvious, too. Remember when he said: "I wasn't trying to get rid of one of my own. Well, maybe I was. Like I said, he was a liability." (from memory, I deleted the original pm). Too defensive. Then, in msn, he made a comment about the difficulty of figuiring out who the mobsters were, even though I pointed out earlier who they were was obvious if cyberrat was the rat. He brought up the possibility that either me or him was the rat, as well. Then denied he was the rat.
I again stongly reccommend killing him, tonight, with your mafia powers.
Or maybe I could try and sway public opinion against him tomorrow? If he doesn't get the other mafia to kill me, tonight, that is.
This situation's made more complicated by the fact that only me and vudu know the truth.
One thing's for certain, though: that plan we had, about contacting people who voted for the rat, vudu can't carry that out. Instead, you should. It might be best if you just told vudu the plan was cancelled and then went through with it anyway. It might be better if the plan actually was cancelled.
ShyGuy and Unclebob and everyone who didn't vote needs to be looked at in a different light now. The kaplanites didn't think cyberrat was one of their own.They did think vudu was one of their own. This changes everything: shyguy and bob going against vudu could've been a ruse. Or maybe they figured out he was the rat. Or maybe they aren't mobsters. Maybe some of the countless people who voted on the rat are mobsters instead.
Yeah, this sucks.
neverously yours,
wandering
p.s. there's one other possibility: the rat character doesn't exist, and pryo made him up so that the mafia would destroy themselves. Wouldn't that be the worst thing of all? Well. I guess I'll hear from you tomorrow.
p.p.s. to the other people who are reading this email, I'm talking about a game on the internet, found here: http://www.planetgamecube.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=35&threadid=15097 Nothing to be concerned about.
(Not only did IceCold not kill vudu, he made him godfather. Vudu sent him an in-character note explaining how, even though he was the rat, he never betrayed IceCold. And that his death wouldn't go unpunished. And that he would paint the town red with the blood of townies and kaplans alike. Of course, I didn't know this at the time.)
Post by: Mario on February 26, 2006, 10:09:25 PM
HAHAHA wow, looking back it seems like the 3 people i PM'd about Pale were all in the Reggie mafia, which is where i accused Pale from being from. Then Deg kills Pale with just a guess.
I deleted most of my PM's, i'll try and dig up some chatlogs I had with myself though later.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2006, 10:17:03 PM
Day 1
-I was in LA didn't know the game had started - TVMan(The Cop) dies
Day 2
-Ty(unknown role) is killed
-Anime drops alot of names in his story telling post, one of them being Vudu.
-I share this with Mystic & try to contact Pale.
-After a long talk with Mystic I confirmed that Vudu had to be The Rat, and that we must come up with a strategy, Then we confronted Vudu with new found info, he of course denies being The Rat.
-Anime is killed and revealed to be Reggie Mafia, it became obvious that Anime was trying to tell us something.
-I try to contact Pale, obvioulsy he didn't believe me that Vudu was The Rat.
Day 3
-Ice Cold & Pale are both killed, Vudu(The Rat) is promoted to GF of The Kaplans.
-Suspicion flys between me & Mystic about the possibilty of Vudu being the GF of the Reggie's too.
-Alot more talk between me & mystic as we strategize some more, I also talked with mario and some other PGCers (some of which were playing the game) on MSN
-Chat between Me, Mystic & Vudu. We confronted Vudu about being The Rat and agree Mario would be our next target.
-ShyGuy(freemason) dies (revealing that Ty was Freemason), I pretend to be sad
Day 4
-Mario(The Captain) is hit by the Reggie Mafia, stregnthening our suspicions about Vudu being head of the Reggies.
-We confront Vudu about being The Rat and ask him to just give up the last remaining Reggie, he slips up a few comments and gives himself away, we apply more pressure for a confession and just try to get him to work with our plan, he continues to deny, but I already knew & was 100% sure.
-Chat with group of PGCers
-Stevie(townie) dies
Day 5
-We kill Deguello in a mafia hit.
-My suspicion over Anime's post on day 2 get supported by the fact that wandering panicked and voted for Vudu right away instead of posting about his cheezerium like he wounld normally do.
-Confront Vudu again(about being The Rat), he inadvertently gave up wandering and admitted to being The Rat & GF of the Reggies. He also agreed that we should work together, but not kill wandering yet for fear of being exposed as the Rat & something about Mr. Lavender. Besides we needed wanderings vote
-Knowing for sure that wandering was the last Mafia, we now knew every active role in the game. Everyone else was a townie
-Me & Mystic draw up a new plan that should carry us out till the end. Vudu was excluded from any real planning as he couldn't be trusted and part of the plan was to vote him out soon, he couldn't know that part of the plan, we plotted a fake plan and included Vudu in that chat instead.
-Pryo is once again extremly late to close the polls
, so I pretend to think there is only minutes left and make a rush vote for Stabby.Stabby(townie) dies
Day 6
-Reggies kill Uncle Bob(townie), just like us Kaplans had planned. Vudu was working our will through the other mafia. But we decided that the game was nearing an end and we should get rid of Vudu now.
-Mario ressurrected ShyGuy(as ???) and that added one person too many to our plan, but we decided to go ahead as planned. slight mistake*
-So we try to wait for the very last second and VOTE VUDU but Pryo took longer to close the polls than I expected.
-Vudu rats out Me & Gohan.
-Now we were exposed, but the plan was already in motion.
*We jumped the gun on voting for Vudu though, we should have waited one more day, our plan didn't account for ShyGuy.
Vudu(The Rat) dies
Day 7: Endgame
-ShyGuy(Vigilante) kills Mystic, We kill Dasmos(townie)
-Now I realize that our plan is all Fcked up, Mystic wasn't supposed to die, I needed his vote.
-there are now 4 of us left and should as was planned but Mystic was supposed to be the 4th, not ShyGuy.
-This is were I decided to say "hell with the plan, lets screw this whole thing up and let Kirby win"
-ran the plan by Mystic *R.I.P* and Mario *R.I.P.* & one other
we had a good laugh -"Operation: Kirby Wins" was a go
-I send a PM to ShyGuy and reason with him about who he should vote for and how since he knew I was Mafia I was a guaranteed safe kill for his Vigilante act.
-I send Wandering(Reggie) a PM and say we should vote for ShyGuy(Vigilante) and then he should Mafia hit Kirby(townie)
-Wandering PM's me back saying Vote for Kirby and then he will mafia hit ShyGuy.
-I know this won't work for me as my plan would only leave Kirby, Wanderings plan could get either him the win, or me. it was a 100% chance win for the mafia, but only a 50/50 cahnce of that mafia being Kaplan. I didn't like the odds, besides I thought my way would be funnier, and sort of a slap in the face to everyone playing.
-ShyGuy PM's me back saying wandering is getting voted for.
-Wandering gets Voted out, leaving me withthe mafia hit for the night
-I put my hit out on ShyGuy, ShyGuy puts his hit out on me
-the plan is working perfectly, "Operation: Kirby Wins" is a success!!
-Wandering = Dead, ShyGuy = Dead, BNM = Dead
- findout that kirby commited suicide by trashbag sometime during the week and was just waiting for some to care enough to come looking for him, sadly no one ever cared to check on him.
p.s. Something tells me Ian had something to do with Kirbys death
Post by: Big_Brother on February 27, 2006, 12:03:39 AM
This post has nothing to do with the fact that wandering had to go into Big_Brother's account to retrieve some pms.
Big_Brother does not make mistakes.
Be good!
Post by: wandering on February 27, 2006, 12:08:08 AM
-Day THREE-
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[to: UncleBob]
Judge - Why did you vote for vudu the other night?
Your friend, Wandering
(a hunch, he says.)
Uh-oh. No real reasoning. could be a kaplan ruse, thought I. But, as the only person who voted for vudu, he was my best bet at that point.
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I don't trust hunches. Or you.
But in this case, I think you may have been right. And it's based on more than a hunch, though not much more.
If you want to move on him, I'll back you up. More to the point, I have an idea for how we can proceed. But I'd need your help. I'll explain if you're interested. Are you? Or do you have someone who you think is a more likely canidate?
(Bob notes in good cheer that I'm awfully happy to join forces with him. But at least I didn't use a fake name. He's still leaning towards vudu personally.)
I made the move:
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Well. Then. We both agree vudu is probably a mobster.
Here's what I want you to do, if you're willing: start making the case to other people in pms.
Pick 6 or 7 people you think you can trust. (You'll probably wind up pming a mobster. That's fine. Your anti-vudu stance is already public, and this message will reach people who aren't mobsters. This isn't very high-risk.) Tell the people this, in your own words:
"I'm pretty sure vudu is a mobster. That's why I voted for him last night.
He started the kill-tvman bandwagon on the first day, than jumped off again after TVman's fate was sealed. He started the kill cyberrat bandwagon the second day...that time he stayed on, probably because he realised cyberrat was a member of the opposing mafia.
I'm going to vote for him again tonight. Join me if you agree."
I'll be contacting people too.
Don't tell em I sent ya.
(Meanwhile, Vudu explains he's the rat. But my life is not in danger, not planning on telling anyone who I am or killing me himself. He's been playing the game as if he were members of 2 seperate mafias. If I die, I'd have to go on to win the game by myself.)
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[to: vudu]Quote
if you haven't already figured it out, I'm the Rat.
Well, obviously.
I take it icecold named you as his successor? What did you tell him that made him think you weren't the rat?
This is a game of lies, but if you wanted to kill me I think you'd either be open about or not say anything. But your stance makes things harder on me. Surely you don't mean you aren't planning on winning? Surely you are planning on killing me, eventually?
(vudu explains if it comes down to just me and him, he'd be forced to kill me, but didn't think it would come to that. Besides, bigger thins to worry about: Bill is "on a war path", and thinks the vigilante is in their group. Vudu then asks if I think the vigilante should be killed if discovered, or if it would be better to wait because of Lavender.)
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[to: vudu]
Listen. I don't feel comfortable working with you anymore. I don't know if that's the right thing or not. But it's better than pretending to be on your side when I'm not. My ultimate goal here, as is yours, is to be the last man standing.
I won't tell anyone you're the rat.
Good luck.
(Vudu says fine, but still not planning on killing me, and it only makes sense to share information: who's the vigilante/lavender, etc.)
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[to: vudu]
Fair enough. I won't hide stuff like that from you.
(Vudu then shares his theory - If I die, vudu loses. Once I'm gone everyone knows the last reggie is the rat. Pale could be brought back by Lavender and then he'd know who all the mafia were. Also, if the rat dies, I lose. Vudu could then be brought back and know who all the mafia were. Then vudu asks, if pale is brought back, could I come to him as the captain/vigilante/townie? That way, he might share information with me, but be relectant to share with the next person who comes to him. If I didn't, vudu says, he'd die and I'd have to go it alone. That'd be bad for me because alone, I have to kill everyone but one person, but together, we could kill everyone but 2 people.)
At this point, I knew I had to kill vudu in order to win, and my best shot of killing vudu was to get the town against him. Therefore, I had no real intention of helping him kill townies.
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[to: vudu]
An interesting point. About you not being to kill me, I mean.
I've come up with some of my own strategies for what to do when Lavender does his thing. I'm afraid I don't want to share them with you, though, because you might be the person I'll have to contend with. I'll take your suggestion about what to do if pale comes back into consideration.
AS per my promise of not holding back, I should tell you I suspect mario of being the vigilante? Agree?
Oh, and as suicidal as this may be, I still don't consider us a "team".
Good luck with your efforts.
I figured mario pmed everybody on the second night so that he could dissipate suspicion of being the vigilante away from himself: when he voted, he was a loner against pale. When he pmed everybody, I thought he was trying to make everyone think that he had given the idea to kill pale to the vigilante, even though he was really the vigilante all along. As it turns out, of course, there was no ruse, and he probably had just given the idea to deg.
(Vudu says he was planning on killing mario tomorrow morning - "I believe we get to kill someone tomorrow morning, right?" Then says he'd like to hear my strategies for dealing with the captain - once the game's over if not right then.)
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[to:vudu]
I look forward to sharing everything with you once the game ends, my dear enemy.
Oh, I believe you get to kill someone tonight/tomorrow morning, yes. You need to give a name to pryo before the day begins tomorrow (and it begins pretty early). Probably best to do it before you go to sleep tonight. I was a surrogate mob boss last time for a brief while, if you recall. I fell asleep watching the Daily Show and woke up around 7:00am, and it was too late for me to make a kill.
(vudu says he'll prolly kill mario unless I have a better suggestion)
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[to: mario]
Well, you were spot on last night.
Listen, someone pointed out to me: vudu's been pretty suspicious. And I agree with them.
What do you think?
(mario says he doesn't know, vudu's on his suspicions list, but has nothing hard on him. Says he needs to do some more research. He also suspects ShyGuy after he accused mario of being mafia. He also suspected BlackNMild as MysticGohan. I agreed with everyone on that list.)
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[to: mario]
I completely agree with everyone on your list.
ShyGuy's a hard one to read - all his accusations are done in a kind of over-the-top humorous way, and I don't remember him ever voting. I defintetley think he's not just a townie - but I'm not 100% certain he's a mobster, either.
MysticGohan is probably number 2 on my suspect list.
vudu's my number one. For whatever reason. I guess I don't have anything hard on him, either though. Except of course his bandwagoning. I'd vote for him, but then I'd be bandwagoning. I'm kind of hoping unclebob, who voted for him last time for whatever reason (also suspicious...I really can't read the guy at all) will take the initiative.
Good luck with your research, whatever that may entail.
(meanwhile, MysticGohan walks into the cheezerium, and I give him some sheep cheese.)
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[to: MysticGohan]
Inside the sheep cheese you find a rolled up note:
"Mystic, I'm glad you've come. Do you trust vudu? I've gotten this note from someone who suspects him. But, ah...
I'm not sure he's right and I don't want to stick my neck out. Did you get a note about vudu, too?
Actually, I was wondering, might you have someone else you suspect instead? You're one of the few people I trust around here.
your friend, Wandering"
At this point, I suspected Mystic Gohan was a kaplan. I hoped he would share the note with vudu and that vudu would share with me, thus confirming my suspicions.
(Mystic agrees that vudu is suspicious. Later that eve, he comes to me asking about going after mario, and, in so doing, pretty much confirming that he was mafia.)
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[to: MysticGohan]
Hmm.
On the one hand, Mario's vote change was suspicious. On the other hand, Pale did turn out to be a mafia member. On the other other hand, Mario only changed his vote after cyberrat's death was a sure thing...which means mario's vote very well could've been a mafia ruse.
...Yes. That does seem likely.
But voting for him may be a bad move.
I'm still undecided. If you want to go for it, fine, but I can't guarantee I'll back you up at this point.
(mystic asks if anyone might be willing to take a chance on mario.)
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don't know.
maybe you could try stabby? He seems to have a death wish
(Mario starts the ShyGuy bandwagon. Gohan and BlackNMild join.)
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[to: mario]
mario! gohan contacted me about teaming up against you earlier. which means shyguy isn't a part of the mafia!
(mario says whoops, says if I vote for vudu, he might change his.)
(I try to change my vote - but the polls close. Mario sends me an "Oh no!" And says he hopes he survives so we can plan stuff tomorrow.)
I hoped he'd survive as well. I was right not only about ShyGuy not being mafia but also about him having a role. Mario trusted me now.
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[to: mario]
of course when the vote is actually contentious pryo has to close it on time.
actually, early
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[to: mario]
If you happen to know who the vigilante is, tonight would be an excellent night to get vudu.....
(mario says he doesn't, but left a hint. Says he's heard the night actions have already gone down and that they would cause massive mayhem tomorrow.)
Excellent, thought I. Mario the vigilante had already sent in his mark for vudu, and now was trying to throw me off the trail by responding to my suggestion with a public 'hint' so that I would't think he was the vigilante.
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[to: mario]Quote
Though i'm hearing they've already made a decision, and also that that tomorrow will cause massive mayhem.
Sounds like the work of CAPTAIN LAVENDER.....
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[to: vudu]
you asked me for a better suggestion, right?
I've got one for you: kill me tonight instead of mario.
What? Me guilty? Nah...
(vudu asks why I want to die and why he would want to kill me. After all, I'm the only thing that's stopping the captain from bringing back pale.)
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It was just revealed that there is no captain.
You should kill me because I'm playing hardball. I consider you my enemy and if you don't kill me tonight I will ensure your demise.
But do what you want.
(actually, no, he had pmed pryo, there was still a captain.)
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[to: vudu]
oh. Ah.
I still reccommend that you kill me, though.
But I suppose you're taking a risk either way.
(If either of us die, the reggies lose. My best bet is workin with him. Yadda yadda yadda.)
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[to: vudu]
Well, let's see what happens. I have my own ideas about how to win. I've said my peace. I couldn't in good consciense pretend to be on your side when I really wasn't.
The question to you is: what do you consider more risky, me being your enemy, or the captain lavender factor?
Now, obviously, I can't kill you. And, as per our agreement, I still won't tell people that you're the rat, and I still will keep you informed about who I think is playing various roles. But that doesn't mean I'm not a threat. Cause I am.
...well, I think I am.
I report, you decide!
By the way, as per our agreement:
I've heard word that mario may not be the vigilante.
And I've heard word that you may be a mafia member.
(vudu sees mario's hint and speculates death is in his near future.)
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Hey, looks like I'm going to die tonight and you'll be left in charge.
I'll reiterate that I'm not so sure if mario's the vigilante. But we'll see what happens.
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No hard feelings. Go ahead and kick some butt.
God, I hope not. The no hard feelings bit, I mean.
I hate playing this game.
But I'm also hopelessly addicted to it and lost in it.
Well. Goodnight.
(meanwhile, I hear word from unclebob that he was at work and couldn't do anything that day. Says he has a hunch he'll be killed that night. Says he's heard Bill is the informant.)
His willingness to share these things makes me trust a little more.
That's fine, hope you make it to see tomorrow.
I had heard word of Bill's involvement, but didn't know he was the informant. Interesting. Thanks for the info.
Oh, hey, if you happen to know who the vigilante is, tonight'd be a good night to get vudu.....
unclebob was actually my second choice for vigilante after mario. His behavior, at least, led me to suspect he had some kind of role.
-Day FOUR-
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[to: UncleBob from: Big_Brother]
Do not believe the lies!
Mystic Gohan is NOT a mafia member!
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[to: stevey from: Big_Brother]
Do NOT belive the lies!
MysticGohan is NOT a mafia member!
Trust Big_Brother.
Always.
Like Coca-Cola.
(Unclebob asks Big_Brother if he's trying to get information out of him)
Information? Does he have some? Is this a sign he's a kaplan?
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[to: UncleBob from: Big_brother]
No.
I have all the info.
On all the players.
Already.
That includes you, UncleBob.
(UncleBob thinks Big_Brother knows less than he thinks he knows.)
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[to: UncleBob from: Big_Brother]
I think you'd be surprised.
I got a letter from vudu. It read:
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[from: vudu]
Word on the street is your cheese contains more than just dairy products, if you get my drift.
Bingo.
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[to: vudu]
Word on the street is you just revealed the identity of one of your mafia members to me. Which was my plan all along.
I told you to kill me last night.
Sorry about this.
(vudu raises the possibility that it was shared with him by a non kaplan. Also, he's the closest thing I have to a friend in this game, yadda yadda yadda.)
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[to: vudu]
Listen, I feel terrible that I am essentially rejecting your offer of friendship. But your plan has one, fatal flaw: If I join up with you, that'd be great for you... but, for me, I'd have a very low chance of winning.
Oh, and:Quote
Also--and I don't want to seem like I'm clutching at straws here--you realize there's always the distinct possibility that whoever you PMed and then PMed me (A) isn't a Kaplan and doesn't know I am either, or (B) told someone else who then told me (the second person may or may not be a Kaplan; doesn't matter in this case).
yeah, you're right about that. I guess I don't really know anything for certain.
(vudu points a low chance of winning > no chance of winning. Also, do I have any idea who big brother was?)
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[to: vudu]
I think I've already said this: I have a plan for dealing with lavender's ressurrection.
It's a risky plan, but, I think it's a better plan than hoping you get killed by the vigilante at the very last minute. Or hoping I die and then get ressurected.Quote
Besides, isn't winning the game as a dead mafia member better than losing the game as a dead mafia member?
Huh? How would I win if I'm dead? If you win, the reggies woudn't have won. You're the rat. You aren't a real reggie or a kaplan. But I guess that's just arguing semantics. The point is: I want to be alive at the end of the game.Quote
Also, do you have any idea who Big_Brother is?
Hard to say who he is or even what he's trying to accomplish. Mabye he's an alternate persona of "the informant"?
I'd be interested in hearing if vudu suspected I was big brother at that point...
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[to: unclebob]
Hey, today'd be a really good day to implement that plan I came up with yesterday. You remember it? Are you game?
There's something like 4 mafia members and 6 townies left. We need to work hard to ensure a legitimate kill tonight.
(before he moves on vudu, why do I think he's mafia?)
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[to: UncleBob]
You were willing to vote on him, but aren't willing to send pms?
I guess I don't have much to give you other than the reasoning I gave you in my other pm...Quote
Tell the people this, in your own words:
"I'm pretty sure vudu is a mobster. That's why I voted for him last night.
He started the kill-tvman bandwagon on the first day, than jumped off again after TVman's fate was sealed. He started the kill cyberrat bandwagon the second day...that time he stayed on, probably because he realised cyberrat was a member of the opposing mafia.
I'm going to vote for him again tonight. Join me if you agree."
But if I'm wrong about this I'll eat my hat. I'm convinced. As was Mario (though he was wrong about shyguy. I was right about him though...)
Mabye it's just a hunch, but it's a correct one. Trust me.
But, if you have someone better...?
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[to: UncleBob]
dang it, bob, if you're not with me on this we're all screwed.
I'll offer you 2 incentives:
1. If you pm, like, 4 or 5 people telling them you're voting for vudu tonight - you don't even have to give any kind of explanation, I don't think - I'll make the first vote against him. After you do the pms.
2. If vudu turns out not to be a mobster, I want you to start a bandwagon against me the next day.
vudu is our best lead right now, we need to act on this.
So. You in now?
(Bob says he's sent a few pms already)
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[to: UncleBob]
Really? Fantastic. Who've you sent them to?
(some people he trusts, some people he doesn't.)
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[to: UncleBob]
Fine. Could you at least send me a copy of what you sent out?
(No response.)
Uh-oh. Time for plan b...
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[to: stabby]Hey, did you get a note from unclebob about vudu?
(No. what did it say?)
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Just that he suspects vudu and is planning on voting for him. But he wants me to vote on him first.
When I pmed him back, he said he was telling a bunch of people, so I thought it'd be okay to just get a second opinion. Interesting that he didn't pm you, though.
I'm kind of suspicious. I think he might be trying to set me up somehow.
But...vudu has been #1 on my suspects list for quite a while. What do you think?
At this point I knew I was giving Bob's name away to people who might then try to kill him. But if he wasn't forthcoming with me, then, well...
(Stabby suggests Unclebob could be testing me to see if I'm a potential bandwagonner against his boss. If I say I suspect vudu, I could die. But at least I would've gotten the word out through stab. The bad thing is that I'd be dead. Go with my gut feeling.)
So stabby probably wasn't mafia after all. That's good to know.
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[to: stabby]
hmm, thanks.
I think I'm going to go ahead and go for it.
(Bob could be mafia, or just a townie looking for a parter, says stab. WE'll see how it unfolds.)
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[to: stevey]
stevey, did unclebob send you a message about vudu, too?
(No. What did it say?)
(Meanwhile, MysticGohan tries to convince me to help him start a bandwagon on Deguello.)
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[to: MysticGohan]
I think Deguello is a good bet. BUT, it's too early for me to feel comfortable voting right now. Or even to feel comfortable making up my mind about who to vote for.
I'll let you know when I decide who to vote for.
(I tell Deguello that the mafia are after him, and I think he's innocent, and he should vote for vudu.)
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[to: MysticGohan]
I've made my decision. UncleBob convinced me. Vudu is going down.
Join me or not, your decision.
Now I'm actively trying to get bob killed instead of me...
(I/Iwata start the kill vudu bandwagon.)
(what's the reasoning? Asks MysticGohan. Wants something concrete.)
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[to:MysticGohan]
well, he's been suspicious the whole game. But if you want something concrete, how about that time he started the kill-tvman bandwagon and then stepped out of it once tvman's fate was sealed?
(Good point! But bib_brother thinks he's innocent.)
It wasn't a very good point. MysticGohan was way too eager to appear suspicious of vudu. Also, were people really thinking big_brother was on the side of good? I guessed annonymous authoritarian voices could really work a little too well...
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[to: MysticGohan]
It has been speculated that big_brother is in league with the mobsters.
I'm not sure, though.
(perhaps he's working with vudu and deguello, speculates gohan. Also, there's the question of why kirby hasn't posted.)
So kirby isn't mafia. Good to know.
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[to: stevey]
That he suspects vudu.
The vudu bandwagon is already leaving the station, though. Hop aboard!
(Stevey then says he'll pm Iwata. He sends several hilarious pms to Iwata that I'll share if he gives permission, and Iwata urges him to vote for vudu. He doesn't.)
(The unclebob situation explodes while I'm away. Unclebob votes on me. "Don't panic. It's time to zig and see if someone zags." Stabby pms me "WE WERE RIGHT!!!", before revealing his unclebob is mafia theory to the public. People discover I've been telling stabby and bob 2 different things. I come back. I try to save face.)
If you're wondering why I didn't go along with stabby's speculation that unclebob was full of it, btw, it's because I couldn't. I didn't think UncleBob was mafia, and couldn't have anyone else thinking that, either. If the mafia thought they could kill me for bandwagoning and then pin it on UncleBob, they would.
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[to: stabby]
STABBY! You just killed us all. Arrg, talk to me before you go and do something like that.
(Stabby apologizes.)
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[to: Stabby]
It's my fault for not being there.
And for not being forthcoming with you about what was going on with me and bob.
We'll see what happens.
(Vudu pms me saying the argument we're having is pretty funny considering we both know we're mafia.)
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[to: vudu]
I'm enjoying it
You're harder to kill than I thought, vudu....
(I'm just lucky vudu's smart enough not to want to kill me back.)
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[to: vudu]
And you're just lucky pryo closed the stupid poll 30 minutes early the other night....
(MysticGohan asks me to change my vote to Deguello. Thinks stevey's on to something.)
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[to: stevey from: Iwata]
Stevey, Iwata here. I have a mission for you. You need to change your vote to vudu.
Everything depends on you. The fate of Nintendo, and the world, rests in your hands.
Sincerely,
Iwata Satoru (Satoru Iwata), president, Nintendo. Co. Ltd.
(meanwhile, stevey had responded to Big_Brother's earlier inquiry by regecting coke and touting pepsi instead.)
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[to: stevey from: Big_Brother]
Do not believe Pepsi's lies.
Coke is more delicious than Pepsi.
Big_Brother is pleased with your support of the elimination of deguello instead of vudu.
(Needless to say, that night vudu was not eliminated.)
Post by: Mario on February 27, 2006, 01:31:01 AM
Post by: Mario on February 27, 2006, 03:14:33 AM
Actually.. screw it, this is WAY too long. Next time i'll put short notes down as I play to make it easier.
Also I thought Wandering was the Vigilante until just before Degs death.
Post by: animecyberrat on February 27, 2006, 06:25:22 AM
I made my plan after day 1 and I realized noboy was communicating with me OR even responding to my posts, so I CHOSE to start namiung peoplel uin mymafia, except ICe COld, and then I picked names like Stevey cuz he votes for me, and Mario because I was suspicious of him. to try and make it look like I wasnt targeting anybody. I only "voice emailed" vudu in the game because I didnt liek his tone in our Pms and was trying to get him to back off.
At first I had peopel asking me what role I was and Id idnt respond with anything except quotes from Star Wars, which the first couple ones I actauly got response back as if they didnt recognise the quotes
that was good for a laugh.Then ____emaild me saying he didnt want to PM anymore for fear of getting found out and we sealed our deal. I told him who all our mafia were and he agreed to vote wandering.
Post by: vudu on February 27, 2006, 09:43:03 AM
QuoteIf you go back and read Wandering's and my arguments in the day 3 and 4 threads they're pretty amusing.
Originally posted by: Mario
Wow, I just noticed how hilarious vudus posts in the first thread are. He makes the first vote, because being the rat he knows what side everyone is on, then he jokingly says in another post "I know everything.". He then complains about being out of the loop. LOL
And yeah, I pretty much knew who everyone was at the start. I was 99% sure TVman was either the cop or the Vigilante because he survived the first round (as did Pale and IceCold). One Ty was revealed to be a ???????--which I assumed to be the Captain--(later turning out to be a Freemason) I figured Deg was the vigilante. Once I found out Ty wasn't the Captain I figured it was either Deg or Mario; the other being the Vigilante.
Next time we play Pryo needs to assign roles at random. I realize that the game would kind of be screwed up if you gave the part of the Rat to Kirby or anything important to AnimeCyberRat (sorry, but I call it as I see it), but it made it real easy for me to figure out who was who.
Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to state that the Captain breaks the game, not the Rat. If the Captain lost his power to bring a person back after he died it would be one thing. But since he can use it at any time, it screws over the mafia big time, especially the Rat. If one Mafia completely dies and the other loses a single member the Captain can bring back that member and win the game. If one Mafia loses all its members except the Rat and the other mafia loses a single member the Captain can bring back that member and win the game. If the Rat dies the Captain can bring back the Rat and win the game. It makes it nearly impossible for the Mafia to win unless the Captain is a sadist and brings back someone as a Mafia member.
If we ever play with the Captain again, he should be forced to use his powers before he dies. This way he has to blance out bringing someone back now with waiting until later but risk dying first. This is the same problem the cop faces as far as spilling the beans as to what he knows or risk dying and taking the info he knows to the grave.
The biggest reason I lost was (A) I couldn't get rid of Wandering and (B) for some reason no one ever voted for BlackNMild or MysticGohan. I couldn't kill them myself so I needed someone to vote one of them off. Once that happened, I'd be able to kill off the second one as a Godfather once the Captain brought back someone.
Also--and I'm not blaming Pryo (although it is his fault)--but I could have won the game if he closed the polls when he said he would. He was over an hour late. If the polls closed on time Wandering would have been voted off, and I would have been able to kill BlackNMild or MysticGohan that night (hopefully getting ShyGuy to kill the other).
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 27, 2006, 10:14:19 AM
That's completely up to the Captain...He could just as easily bring a Mafia back to screw over the townies...
Post by: MysticGohan on February 27, 2006, 10:18:50 AM
Post by: wandering on February 27, 2006, 11:36:05 AM
-Day FIVE-
(Mario sent me a pm saying mysticgohan accidently invited him to an msn chat with vudu)
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[to: mario]
ahahahahaha. They're going down.
The dead revealing information to the living? You're not...cheating, are you mario?
(mario: am I really dead?)
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[to: mario]
Well, I guess if you can intone "I am Captain Lavender! While I no longer live among you, know that I am always with you!" as if from the heavens, you can do anything....
Then, I I got a pm....
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[from: Savior Throwing A Bone]
one group
MysticGohan
vudu
BlackNMild
one group
speak not
act
I followed his advice and voted for vudu with no explanation.
-DAY SIX-
(MysticGohan writes and tries to convince me to vote for vudu, also that mario made shyguy a mobster.)
(I'm out until after the polls close, though.)
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[to: ShyGuy]
I'm pretending to trust mystic gohan so that the kaplans won't kill me tonight.
If you are indeed the vigilante, our best chance of winning is for you to take mystic gohan out tonight, and then to take care of BlackNMild tomorrow.
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[to: MysitcGohan]
sorry I couldn't vote today.
Whoever you want to vote for tomorrow, I'll back you up.
Trying to make sure the kaplans didn't think I was a threat to them...
(MysticGohan writes that he thinks he'll be long dead, mario tried to screw us all, I should try and pay them back 1000 fold tomorrow.)
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[to: MysticGohan]
if shyguy is the vigilante, why is that a bad thing?
Quote
[to: MysticGohan]
oh, I see. You confessed.
Then you and BlackNMild are mafia.
Fine. If you can ensure my protection tonight, I will vote on ShyGuy tomorrow.
(Mystic responds: ShyGuy will kill me, he knows my role. MysticGohan knows too: stan told him. MysticGohan wants to wipe that smug look off Bill's face, who interfered too much. Also, he can ensure my protection, tells me Dasmos would die that night, and says he knows he will be killed by ShyGuy that night.)
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[to: MysticGohan]
Who's Stan?
Quote
[to: MysticGohan]
Forgot to add:
I admit to nothing
But I give you my word that I will vote on ShyGuy tomorrow.
The post I just made is just to ensure ShyGuy doesn't think I know he thinks I'm mafia.
(Stan's Pryo. Also, MysticGohan revealed BnM will vote for me the next day.)
Wait, Pryo gave out my role? Bull. I feared they were just testing me to see if I was mafia, and had, in fact, written similiar notes to the other remaining players.
(BlackNMild writes to tell me he knows I'm mafia, and that we have to team up against ShyGuy the next day.)
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[to: BlackNMild]
What makes you think I'm mafia and dasmos or kirby aren't?
(the rat ratted on me, says BlackNMild, also he figured it out from anime's comments. No mention of pryo telling him anything.)
This confirmed my suspcions that they didn't really know I was mafia. ...of course, my suspicions were wrong, they did know, and pryo probably did tell MysticGohan I was the last remaining reggie at the same time he told him he was killed by the vigilante.
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[to: BlackNMild]
I see. I'll tell you what I told MysticGohan: If you can ensure my protection tonight, I will vote for ShyGuy tomorrow, provided you do the same. I give you my word.
But this doesn't mean I'm admitting to being mafia.
I considered saying flat out that I wasn't the reggie, but I thought that might be suicide for 2 reasons: 1) BlackNMild could know I was lying, and then might not trust me to vote for ShyGuy, and then kill me. Or, 2) BlackNMild have actually been planning on sparing the person he felt sure was the last remaining mafia member that night.
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[to: Dasmos]
Did you get a pm from either BlackNMild or Mystic Gohan?
(Before day six or after, asked Dasmos. Also, why?)
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[to: Pryo]
What happens if the only 2 people left are a vigilante and a mobster? What if they're 2 mobsters from opposing teams?
Stalemate in both cases?
(That isn't going to happen, says pryo. ShyGuy will side with either me or him. One of us dies. ShyGuy kills the last mobster, the last mobster kills ShyGuy. Kirby is left standing, the townies win.)
Not necessarily true, thought I. There were numerous ways Kirby could die.
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[to: Pryo]
Hmm. Probably right.
Pryo's note convinced me everyone's roles were clear to everyone and that BlackNMild did, in fact, know I was mafia.
Quote
[to: Dasmos]
After.
They both pmed me and I was wondering whether they were....
well, actually, it doesn't really matter what I thought they were doing, now. Cause now I know.
I'll explain after the game is over. Sorry to have bothered you.
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[to: BlackNMild]
BTW, tonight, I'd kill kirby. I've heard he's going to be coming back tomorrow.
I had this weird strategy that I could convince ShyGuy that Dasmos was the last remaining mobster. Dasmos hadn't, after all, ever voted on a mobster, as far as I could recall. I soon realized this wouldn't work. For one thing, either vudu or BlackNMild probably came to ShyGuy and told him I was mafia. And so, I came up with the only strategy that created the possibility of me winning.
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[to: BlackNMild]
...actually, I take that back. If you haven't killed dasmos, there's no way either of us will win. I'll explain after the day starts.
-Day SEVEN-
(BlackNMild tries to goad me into voting for ShyGuy first, presumably so that ShyGuy will vote for me instead of him.)
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[to: BlackNMild]
No more games. I know you're planning on voting for me. Please, don't. Even if you succeeded in getting me voted off, shyguy would kill you, kirby would be left standing, and the townies would win. And neither of us want that.
I hope you'll agree that only one strategy makes any sense now: we both need to vote for kirby.
Then, once he's taken care of, I'll use my mafia powers to kill shyguy, and shyguy will use his vigilante powers to kill either me or you.
This way, we'll both have a 50/50 shot at winning. Which is better than nothing.
BlackNMild doesn't like my plan, I die.
If kirby was voted off, I was planning on pming ShyGuy with copies of the pms I sent to mario where I tried desperatley to save Shy.
The end.
Post by: stevey on February 27, 2006, 11:38:48 AM
That was you! I wish it was IWATA for real
Ok you can post the pms and can someone point out what mario said or me/whoever did that turn everyone on me. VEDETTA!!!
Post by: ShyGuy on February 27, 2006, 11:53:24 AM
Mario knew Vudu, Mystic, and BnM were all mobsters, he said it was up to me to figure out the last remaining Mafia member.
I knew who everyone was when I returned from the dead and planned on dying before it was over.
Of course all the mafia started PMing me when I returned, pretending to be townies.
Post by: Satoru IWATA on February 27, 2006, 12:00:24 PM
Quote
Ok you can post the pms
It would be my pleasure, Stevey. I appreciate all of my fan mail and try to respond to it all personally. Here's what you sent me:
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Your my GOD
Quote
can I have a zelda demo?
Quote
Can I get a job at nintendo?
Quote
I love you
Quote
I will kill anyone for you!!!
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I will die for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QuoteYour picure on my wall
QuoteI dream of you at night!
Quote
Do you want me to vote for vudu?
And here, if you recall, is what I sent to you:
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[to: stevey from: Iwata]Quote
Do you want me to vote for vudu?
yes.Quote
Can I get a job at nintendo?
Look here. I might put in a good word for you!Quote
I dream of you at night!Quote
Your picure on my wallQuote
I love you
Too much information!
All the best,
Iwata Satoru (Satoru Iwata), President, Nintendo, Co. Ltd.
Post by: wandering on February 27, 2006, 12:11:58 PM
Quote
Wandering, I didn't have to be told by the other Mafia members what you were, I had already figured it out from you slipup in the Dead Like Me thread.
I don't understand this at all. First off, it was a slip-up, a posted a
in response to someone critisizing my cheese. But then Big_Brother replaced that with 'yes', as if to say 'yes, I agree, wandering's cheese sucks.' So I'm surprised people figured out that it was me because of that.Second off, Big_Brother was an intentionally incompetent advocate of the kaplan mafia. So, why, when you learned that I was behind him, did you think I was a mobster? Did you think he really was a mafia advocate? If so, why would you think the last remaining reggie would want to defend kaplans? Did you think he was a fake mafia advocate? If so, why did he have to be the last remaining reggie and not just a townie or Bill trying to get the mafia killed?
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Mario knew Vudu, Mystic, and BnM were all mobsters, he said it was up to me to figure out the last remaining Mafia member.
Mario didn't know it was me til it was all over, huh? I wouldn't have guessed that.
Post by: ShyGuy on February 27, 2006, 12:42:13 PM
Post by: Mario on February 27, 2006, 04:13:24 PM
I thought the mafias were waiting for the ressurection before they killed the rat, which was silly because we already knew enough of the mafia members to win the game, they turned on the rat after ShyGuys entrance for that reason I think.
stevey, the vote swayed to you that time because we were trying to keep Deg, the Vigilante alive, and there was no WAY Mystic and BnM were going to vote for vudu (this is when I figured out vudu was with them, coupled with the hilarious MSN incident where they accidently invited me into their chat), just like they both refused to hop on my Pale bandwagon, so a townie had to be sacrificed to save the vigilante. So much for that! Pales death also confirmed that BnM and Mystic were on the Kaplan side.
Choice quote!
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[12:50:48 PM] BlackNMild2k: what was Ty's role?
[12:57:47 PM] Mario: was Ty captain lavender?
[12:57:50 PM] Stan: no
[12:57:58 PM] Stan: he was definitely not Captain Lavender
[12:58:42 PM] Mario: was he a secret character not listed in the
rules?
[12:59:42 PM] Stan: oooh, a secret character? that would be clever.
hmm. . . lemme think about it.
How awkward!
Post by: animecyberrat on February 27, 2006, 08:09:19 PM
IT WORKED because YOU and Wandering both Pmed me along with guys from the other mafia.
Yet you still think I was horsing around, so ok. anyways thats all fine but next time gfive me a a chance to explain myself. I got killed off rigth away because too many people dont like me but thats not your fault, unless you just dont like me either but whatever I dont care.
Now as for the RAT thing yu guys cheated me big time, I have THE RAT inmy friggin SIG for crying out loud so naturaly when I read MAfia II The RAT sign up I thought it was a specific invitation for ME to play. I didnt know I WASNT the rat at first until Pyro told me. but as I am THE RAT I chose to be A rat.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on February 27, 2006, 08:26:54 PM
Post by: wandering on February 27, 2006, 08:31:17 PM
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vudu your a prick. This game doesnt counbt at all because NOBODY told me what we were doing, and teh other dorks in my mafia didnt EVER contact me until I started hinting at them. Anyways I dont care what you think about me personaly because youd idnt attack me personaly, so whatever, but you have to take into account where I was coming from, I had to figure out what was goiong on on my own, and by the time I figured out what we were doing it was too late, I already figured out that by reading the posts that people were Pming each otehr and I was getting left out so I made up my mind to start role playing to get attention.
Try reading the first part of that long 'diary' thing I did. Up til the part where you voted on me/started roleplaying. Notice how nobody told me what they were doing, either?
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Then ____emaild me saying he didnt want to PM anymore for fear of getting found out and we sealed our deal. I told him who all our mafia were and he agreed to vote wandering.
Who might that be?
Post by: animecyberrat on February 27, 2006, 10:56:21 PM
Post by: wandering on February 27, 2006, 10:58:40 PM
Edit: let's see, who's voted for me? Unclebob. Dasmos. ShyGuy.
One of you, speak up.
Post by: animecyberrat on February 27, 2006, 10:59:00 PM
the culprit already confessed in so many word in his threads. BUT its up to him if he wants to tell anything else. ANYWAS it was just a game, I fewlt left out and cheated so I played it on my own, I didnt knwo we actualy had teams atf irst I just thought that as mafia we were supposed to role play AS MAFIA, I mis read the intrusctions pyropsm gave me.
Also I read teh scenarios AFTER i posted my first post so at that time I was still in the dark
Post by: wandering on February 27, 2006, 11:00:52 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on February 27, 2006, 11:07:00 PM
anyways it DINDT WORK you out lived everybody and by the time I realized that VUDU was the rat and NOT you I had already made my mistake. I suspected yo because you were too friendly to the other mafia memebrs in yoru role playing, but I didnt realize VUDU was too quick to jump on both of us.
Post by: Dasmos on February 28, 2006, 12:00:12 AM
QuoteSpeak up about what?
Originally posted by: wandering
Okay. Somebody had better start talking here.
Edit: let's see, who's voted for me? Unclebob. Dasmos. ShyGuy.
One of you, speak up.
Post by: vudu on February 28, 2006, 09:18:43 AM
QuoteDid you contact anyone? Why do we have to contact you first? The first thing I did was PM IceCold (well, actually Pale, but that's another story). I didn't ever talk with the other mafia members until I became Godfather. There were just too many people involved (especially for me) that it didn't make sense to try to talk to everyone about everything. I figured it would be best to talk only with the Godfather(s) and let him (them) make the decisions and pass along info to the henchmen.
Originally posted by: animecyberrat
vudu your a prick. This game doesnt counbt at all because NOBODY told me what we were doing, and teh other dorks in my mafia didnt EVER contact me until I started hinting at them.
QuoteWell, I see how that's pretty easy to do. vudu and wandering are pretty similar. Hell, even our avatars look the same.
Originally posted by: animecyberrat
damn I was wrong again it was VUDU who insulted me, and all this time I kept mixing you two up.
Post by: UncleBob on February 28, 2006, 09:52:02 AM
I didn't do it.
Post by: wandering on February 28, 2006, 06:59:40 PM
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Speak up about what?
Somebody asked anime to leak my name and they did!
Was it you?
Or...perhaps....BlackNMild?
Quote
Well, I see how that's pretty easy to do. vudu and wandering are pretty similar. Hell, even our avatars look the same.
Curses...you discovered my secret plan for countering Captain Lavender.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2006, 07:11:29 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on February 28, 2006, 08:52:29 PM
When I started role playing I was trying to make up a scenario why I DIDNT vote for TVman and why I needed a reason to be PARANIOD, which is hwo I started out with my role playing, so I chose to say I slept with TVmans wife because I thought that way people would think I was parnoid about that because I read he was killed day one, but I failed to read who killed him so I started acting (in game) liek I was being suspected for what ever reason, at that point I was contacted by wandering, vudu and 2 otehrs whos names I forgot and whos PM I already deleted and they were asking me what side Iw as on. then VUDU called me stupid i his thread in so many words. Then I started responding to Pms about what i was doing but it was too late I was marked as mafia adn was being killed.
Itw as THEN I finaly figured out how the game was played and I started to try and cover it up witht eh bridget crap just to look like I didnt knwo what I was doing. Then Wandering asked me not to mention his name anymore and at first I was ok fine, but he ws kinda rude, or at elast it seamed that way to me, and I decided since I was dead anyways I wanted to get the names of my mafia out there because that way they woudl go down with me.
I was under the impression that Wandering was the rat and so I was trying to get him killed but I was talking to the wrong people, they KNEW who the rat was and dint want him dead but agreed to get wandering killed but failed. Since I didnt play the last game I wasnt exactly sure howit even worked, so next time I expect to be a lot mroe caustious and will not jump to any conclusions. i already send aoplogies tothose who I wronged and I hope the can understand it was a mistake on my part, but if not then allIc an say was its only a game and since I was killed off rigth way whats the difference?
