Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on February 21, 2006, 03:04:56 PM
In a recent article in The Orlando Sentinel, the publication notes that n-Space is expanding its territory by 7,000 square feet, no doubt to accomodate their search for new employees, also mentioned in the article. The real news here, though, is that this is all due to n-Space working on new titles; Revolution titles.
Details are scarce on what kind of games they'll be - let's just hope the next one doesn't take three years to release.
Post by: Louieturkey on February 21, 2006, 03:17:01 PM
Post by: Mario on February 21, 2006, 03:21:10 PM
I still need to play Geist!
Post by: zakkiel on February 21, 2006, 03:30:48 PM
Post by: mantidor on February 21, 2006, 03:33:16 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 21, 2006, 03:43:50 PM
It's one of those rare games which you could play in a room full of people and everyone could enjoy just watching it to see what crazy things happened next. "Look! I'm possessing a dog, barking and scaring some rats so I can possess a rat, run through a crack in the wall, possess a stack of plates and fling them at the chef like frisbees so I can feed rat poison stew to a room full of guards in the evil lair of my enemy."
And now I'm a shower head in the women's locker room...
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 21, 2006, 03:47:06 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on February 21, 2006, 03:51:58 PM
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WTF do people have against Geist?!
It's $100 AUD, that's what!
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 21, 2006, 03:57:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
It's $100 AUD, that's what!
Ouch. Point made.
Yeah, I agree the AI could have been better, but combat with guards was a very small part of the overall focus of the game.
I was too busy causing problems via possession to be shooting, most of the time.
Post by: King of Twitch on February 21, 2006, 04:28:12 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 21, 2006, 04:40:37 PM
Nintendo doesn't need potentially good devs on their side, they need PROVEN devs on their side. When you're facing a slim release schedule the Nintendo published titles have to deliver. An average or okay title can be the equivalent of having months of no good games. I saw this last year on the Cube. I wouldn't be interested in one title and then the next title wouldn't be that great and then suddenly six months would have gone by of nothing.
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on February 21, 2006, 04:46:03 PM
Post by: NWR_Lindy on February 21, 2006, 05:04:52 PM
Post by: dack25 on February 21, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 21, 2006, 05:20:46 PM
I enjoyed Geist more than Eternal Darkness...Oh, oh! I totally opened a can of worms there!
It kind of seems like they only joined up because Nintendo was desperate for any support they could get to fill in for the good second parties they stupidly let get away.
More like because n-Space has a lot more potential in terms of gameplay than Silicon Knights ever did or ever will...
Post by: animecyberrat on February 21, 2006, 05:24:36 PM
Post by: JonLeung on February 21, 2006, 05:30:40 PM
A few framerate issues, maybe AI wasn't all that great, after all those years everyone expected more, but I certainly had fun possessing things...and other people, especially in the Vs. mode and making them walk into deadly devices. Hee hee.
Post by: IceCold on February 21, 2006, 05:55:54 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 21, 2006, 06:09:05 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 21, 2006, 06:14:55 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
There's no way that Geist was better than ED..
Does Eternal Darkness even count as a game? It was all story and no gameplay!
Post by: The Omen on February 21, 2006, 06:16:53 PM
Another rumor that has me smiling is that there is a first person dungeon crawler, ala those old Ultima/Wizardry games being developed by N Space, to take advantage of the Rev controls, as well. That could be BS, though it has me intrigued.
Post by: Mario on February 21, 2006, 06:16:59 PM
EDIT: Geist 2 would be sweet, I imagine it would be a lot better that the first, combining both the new controller and the fact they're more experienced.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 21, 2006, 06:23:19 PM
Geist 2 would be fantastic, and n-Space's producers have appeared to be VERY open to fan input, so I'm sure they know very well what mistakes to fix...
Post by: Mario on February 21, 2006, 06:28:42 PM
For their sake I hope the Geist sequel isn't called Geist 2, because nobody has even heard of Geist 1 so it'll be associated with floppage by the name alone.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 21, 2006, 06:31:25 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 21, 2006, 06:35:10 PM
The game was just so insanely creative in the ways you did things and got into people's heads that I couldn't help but love it (if not for the comedic twists alone!).
"Alright, Sam, I'm going to possess this motorcycle, then you're going to straddle it and we'll ride out of here together, and we'll try not to think about how insanely g ay this is."
Post by: trip1eX on February 21, 2006, 06:40:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I enjoyed Geist more than Eternal Darkness...Oh, oh! I totally opened a can of worms there!
Same here. I finished Geist, but never could finish ED. And for the reasons you mentioned earlier. Too much story.
Anyway all Geist needed was a bigger budget and some more technical know how. The game part was there. They just needed to polish it up. The graphics were uneven throughout. The effects weren't AAA. There were slowdowns. The firefights weren't that great. But there's a ton of directions that concept can go. Maybe Nintendo will send some Retro guys over to polish up the next Geist game. Somehow I think the technical know-how is easier to find than the how to make a fun game know-how.
Post by: animecyberrat on February 21, 2006, 06:48:01 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 21, 2006, 07:50:22 PM
The story was excellent, and the sanity effects made the game very memorable, but the gameplay wasn't as good as Geist's which also had so many of its own memorable moments.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 21, 2006, 08:01:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Silks
Nintendo likely grabbed n-Space because they were cheap, much cheaper than a "proven developer".
Nintendo hasn't grabbed n-Space at all. Furthermore, this news does not necessarily mean that Nintendo is involved with the development or publishing of n-Space's games. Some people are just assuming that because Nintendo published Geist, but n-Space is an independent developer.
Post by: wandering on February 21, 2006, 08:02:42 PM
Just one thing you geist lovers should keep in mind, though: if it wasn't for miyamoto, geist wouldn't have featured any object possesion. At all. And the game would've sucked.
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 21, 2006, 08:20:55 PM
Post by: bustin98 on February 21, 2006, 08:36:53 PM
It was fun, and easy. On the other hand, I haven't finshed Geist yet, don't know if I will. I got Smugglers Run about the same time as ED and I still have one or two missions to finish on that. BTW, I recommend Smugglers Run to everyone. Its crazy fun to free roam in the vehicles, especially when you use the cheat to gain unlimited powerups.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 22, 2006, 05:48:33 AM
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BTW, I recommend Smugglers Run to everyone. Its crazy fun to free roam in the vehicles, especially when you use the cheat to gain unlimited powerups.
truth
Post by: Ian Sane on February 22, 2006, 06:05:59 AM
I guess they should make a spiritual successor to Giest.
Post by: mantidor on February 22, 2006, 06:26:30 AM
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There's no way that Geist was better than ED..
Does Eternal Darkness even count as a game? It was all story and no gameplay!
You are confusing the game with the Final Fantasy series...
lol, more cans of worms
Post by: Minsc on February 22, 2006, 06:46:37 AM
What better way to show off the FHC than a game where you're free to travel in the three axes?
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 22, 2006, 07:38:54 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill AurionQuote
Originally posted by: IceCold
There's no way that Geist was better than ED..
Does Eternal Darkness even count as a game? It was all story and no gameplay!
You are confusing the game with the Final Fantasy series...
No, no, no...Final Fantasy has no story OR gameplay...
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 22, 2006, 07:47:52 AM
Giest, I feel was a completely fresh experience, and I thought the story was very well thought out. Bosses were cool and the logic to defeat them made sense. Even puzzles in the game made perfect logical sense. I remember playing the game and thinking to myself: "I haven't experienced a game this well realized in a long time."
The problem was the control, linear aspects,and weak multiplayer. However, all those things could easily be addressed in a sequel.
Post by: King of Twitch on February 22, 2006, 09:04:18 AM
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BTW, I recommend Smugglers Run to everyone. Its crazy fun to free roam in the vehicles, especially when you use the cheat to gain unlimited powerups.
truth
second'd. Almost no one talks about it but it's one of the most fun cube games.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 22, 2006, 09:12:28 AM
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Originally posted by: MinscTFA
Assumption time.
What better way to show off the FHC than a game where you're free to travel in the three axes?
Descent 4?
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 22, 2006, 10:15:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
"I haven't experienced a game this well realized in a long time."
You just reminded me of the times in the game where you can possess a grenade, roll up to a bunch of guards and detonate it right on top of them.
Damn, I need to play through that game again: it was just too much fun not to...
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 22, 2006, 11:24:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
The problem was the control, linear aspects,and weak multiplayer. However, all those things could easily be addressed in a sequel.
1) FPSers always suffer from being linear, and making a game with puzzles like Geist makes breaking that cycle even harder to accomplish...I'd love to see n-Space figure a way around it, but I'm not holding my breath...
2) Personally I really, really like the multiplayer...It's simple and amusing...And nothing satisfied me more when I found out you could possess rockets on the ground and fly them around like the Slayer rockets from Perfect Dark! =D
Post by: The Omen on February 22, 2006, 01:54:36 PM
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Making Geist 2 seems kind of silly. The game didn't sell that well and wasn't critically well received. So why make a sequel? If almost no one bought your game or liked it then what purpose is there to make a sequel?
Like any other company-to improve on a good idea. Saying it didn't sell well, and equating that to quality is foolish. Plus, you're not seeing what they see-a launch FPS/A that utilizes the new contol scheme. It'll be among the best sellers for Rev just as Luigi's Mansion was for GC. That alone makes it a worthy sequel.
Post by: Artimus on February 22, 2006, 03:00:29 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 22, 2006, 03:01:51 PM
Geist 2 would infinitely be better if you could have several different means of scaring people and gathering them.
Drop the cinemas for the scares, and just let it happen real time. Then perhaps I might possess the wrong character and can't move forward, but I can unlock a side quest.
The game was very good at introducing new aspects and gameplay puzzles, but never over using them.
Combat was interesting, and had a feel of its own. Which is good.
The story even hinted at things to come and then made you sit and wait when you would interact with those elements again. BRILLIANT.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 22, 2006, 05:45:44 PM
Post by: Urkel on February 22, 2006, 07:00:11 PM
Not that I'm saying Geist was flawless. My three biggest problems with the game were:
1. The aiming controls were horrible. Fortunately shooting isn't really a focus in this game, but it really made the game hard to get into at first.
2. The linearity. I want multiple solutions to the puzzles in the sequel.
3. The end of the game. Like a lot of really innovative games (Deus Ex), the last hour or so of Geist has little in the way of creativity and is more a straight-up action game. Definitely not a plus with the crappy controls.
And I liked it more than ED too...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 22, 2006, 07:05:49 PM
Post by: comicgenius on February 22, 2006, 11:56:48 PM
bargain!
Post by: Minsc on February 23, 2006, 02:44:16 AM
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Originally posted by: MinscTFA
Assumption time.
What better way to show off the FHC than a game where you're free to travel in the three axes?
Descent 4?
That game too.
Although I never played it much, my brother was really into the Descent games. Descent on Revolution would be a must buy for him.
Post by: mantidor on February 23, 2006, 01:00:08 PM
Its never going to happen
Post by: Nosferat2 on February 23, 2006, 04:42:57 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
The only thing wrong with Geist is the AI, end of story...Their designers are amazing and have much potential...
after all that time in development i expected a more polished product and a higher level of graphics than was delivered. Great game though and i LOVED the soundtrack. Hopefully they make Geist 2 and have the same soundtrack guys, make the beats.
BTW Did Professional 666 ever rip the Geist soundtrack???? Ahem...patiently waiting...... :-)
Post by: Nosferat2 on February 23, 2006, 04:49:28 PM
Another rumor that has me smiling is that there is a first person dungeon crawler, ala those old Ultima/Wizardry games being developed by N Space, to take advantage of the Rev controls, as well. That could be BS, though it has me intrigued.
Dude are you serious! Wizardry is my absolute RPG series. Anything remotely near Wizardrys quailty is Gonna be Great. Do tell more of the rumors if you have anymore to tell. Nintendo needs to Get the Wizardry franchise and make Wizardry 9.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 23, 2006, 06:14:17 PM
Post by: Requiem on February 23, 2006, 07:38:13 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
There's no way that Geist was better than ED..
Does Eternal Darkness even count as a game? It was all story and no gameplay!
*Head explodes*
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 23, 2006, 08:25:52 PM
Post by: Nosferat2 on February 24, 2006, 09:32:15 AM
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Umm nothing to rip. 99.9% of the music is MIDI.
Could you dumb that done a bit. Im a comp retard. Basically whats MIDI mean.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 24, 2006, 12:40:21 PM
Post by: Nosferat2 on February 25, 2006, 07:24:19 AM
