Post by: wandering on February 02, 2006, 11:41:23 PM
Much as I hate to hope that others screw up....I hope Sony screws up.
This is actually a pretty big deal, because Nintendo has suddenly gone from one viable, if overly-expensive, competitor in the online field to 2. As much as a like MK online, the rev's free online service had better be more robust. As in, there needs to be voice chat in all online games. And a universal friends list. At least.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 03, 2006, 01:07:23 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on February 03, 2006, 06:05:34 AM
Post by: Cap on February 03, 2006, 07:05:15 AM
Post by: ThePerm on February 03, 2006, 07:53:45 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 03, 2006, 08:16:02 AM
Plus this gives their online service more universal appeal. Xbox Live is popular but it's mostly a hardcore gamers thing. Anyone who buys an Xbox to play the odd game every once in a while doesn't get Xbox Live. There's no way to justify the cost if you don't use it frequently. But with Nintendo's model you can buy one game, enjoy it online, not buy any games for months, and then go back online with no problems or extra cost. Plus Sony is making it so that they and Xbox Live are in competition. If I own both consoles and I'm low on funds one of the online services is getting the axe. But it will never be Nintendo's because at the very least the first party titles will have free online. There would never be a reason to pick one of the other online services over Nintendo's because of costs. No matter what your funds are as long as you still have internet you're still online in some capability on the Rev.
Nintendo better promote the f*ck out of this.
Post by: Nephilim on February 03, 2006, 10:05:38 AM
Microsoft loose millions from live, Sony could stand to loose 10times the ammount that microsoft looses now, if it is as popular as ps2
With sony profits down, you think they would think wisely on features that MAKE profit
Post by: wandering on February 03, 2006, 10:57:57 AM
Oh, and Ian, you're actually defending one of Nintendo's decisions? Hooray!
Post by: Nephilim on February 04, 2006, 12:46:47 AM
nintendo: p2p play using gamespy tech
see the difference?
Post by: wandering on February 04, 2006, 02:43:30 AM
Keep in mind, though, we don't really know what Sony is going to do with it's service. It might go through a centralized server, it might not. It might be free to the consumer, it might not.
Post by: odifiend on February 04, 2006, 03:53:21 AM
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Post by: capamerica on February 13, 2006, 05:53:15 PM
Right now I'm more then willing to bet that Sony is feeling the pressure of the Xbox360 & the Revolution and are coming to terms with the fact that the PS3 will Not be able to do everything they said it will and will be on par with the Xbox360 and not Light years ahead of it like they were saying. With the lack of info and playable demos and the recent surge of negative hands on reviews its not looking good for Sony and I think they coming out and saying they are going to have a 'Live' like services that is far better then 'Live' is them just putting up more smoke and mirrors to keep their users distracted and in their pocket.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 13, 2006, 05:57:01 PM
Take their claims and estimate that they'll get about 50% of what they offer (maybe), which means you can expect a service which tries to be like live but winds up sucking and would have been better off under Nintendo's "friend" model.
Post by: wandering on March 22, 2006, 07:36:33 PM
Sony has confirmed plans for an online service. Link 1, link 2, link 3
It will feature:
- tiered access model with free basic services and not-free premium services.
- the ability to purchase/download games. As well as movies, music, tv shows and other content.
- social networking.
-the ability to voice chat with other people... as well as send messages, check email, look at friends lists, etc, via pop-up translucent hud IN GAME.
- support for third party servers (Unlike LIVE)
...this is, scarily, quite impressive. Say what you will about the ps3, at this point it looks like Sony is pulling out all the stops. If Sony pulls through on it's promises (as always a big if with them), I may wind up picking up a ps3 as a second console. Once it drops in price, of course.
edit: streamlined for your viewing pleasure
edit: updated
Post by: KDR_11k on March 22, 2006, 11:43:09 PM
Post by: vudu on March 23, 2006, 07:43:17 AM
QuoteWhat the hell does that mean? Is it like Live's Silver package (free basic services do not include playing games) vs Gold package?
- tiered access model with free basic services and not-free premium services.
Post by: Kairon on March 23, 2006, 07:48:12 AM
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Post by: wandering on March 25, 2006, 10:46:50 PM
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"We will provide all the basic services as standard," Harrison continued. "But third party game services can also be connected, so this means that developers and publishers of MMO-type games can integrate with our platform."
It sounds like basic services like matchmaking will be free...but it's hard to tell. They might be planning on charging you a one-time fee to download and add online functionality to a game, for example.
By-the-by, here's a photo of the in-game video chat:
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on March 26, 2006, 06:15:53 AM
Post by: UncleBob on March 26, 2006, 06:29:55 AM
Why are you all looking at me like that?
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 26, 2006, 09:56:47 AM
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Originally posted by: wandering
Bump!
Sony has confirmed plans for an online service. Link 1, link 2, link 3
It will feature:
- tiered access model with free basic services and not-free premium services.
- the ability to purchase/download games. As well as movies, music, tv shows and other content.
- social networking.
-the ability to voice chat with other people... as well as send messages, check email, look at friends lists, etc, via pop-up translucent hud IN GAME.
- support for third party servers (Unlike LIVE)
...this is, scarily, quite impressive. Say what you will about the ps3, at this point it looks like Sony is pulling out all the stops. If Sony pulls through on it's promises (as always a big if with them), I may wind up picking up a ps3 as a second console. Once it drops in price, of course.
edit: streamlined for your viewing pleasure
edit: updated
Everything Sony promises sounds impressive, but to date, I don't think they've ever once delivered anything as impressive as they've promised.
The PS2 promised graphics which would rival Pixar's animation...WRONG.
The PSP promised to be the portable to end all portables and actually have some games...WRONG.
The PS3 promises to be superior to other consoles in every way...take your best guess.
They're trying to be everything to everyone, and every company or device which has tried to do that in the past has always wound up being nothing to nobody.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 26, 2006, 09:56:37 PM
Given that we're talking about SOE I'd say they haven't even delivered anything that even half-assedly did more than half of what they promised.
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 27, 2006, 06:33:23 AM
Hats off to them for that.
Post by: capamerica on March 27, 2006, 07:33:19 AM
Also I would like to go on the record that in-game video chat is the most retarded idea since.... Damn I can't think of anything more retarded. You should be focused on the game not looking at what the other players are doing. Might work nice in a Poker game or maybe a party game but thats it.
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 27, 2006, 08:14:42 AM
Video chat is a horrible waste of bandwidth. What can you glean from someone's face that you can't do from their voice mid-game?
Post by: WesDawg on March 27, 2006, 11:03:04 AM
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microsoft: all the players connect thu the microsoft dedicated servers
nintendo: p2p play using gamespy tech
I don't think this is true. Most Live games are P2P. Microsoft just does the matchmaking, exactly the same as DS games. The few exceptions are usually MMORPGs.
EDIT: Fixing my quoties.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 27, 2006, 09:40:11 PM
Hats off to them for that.
That was Sony Music and they just licensed those things.
Post by: Talon on March 28, 2006, 02:33:06 AM
Yet people still buy SONY products. SONY as a brand is extremely powerful and well known worldwide so they could potentially deliever the biggest lemon ever and im sure it would rack up alot of sales.
Video chat is a horrible waste of bandwidth. What can you glean from someone's face that you can't do from their voice mid-game?
Video chat maybe a horrible waste of bandwidth but if it doesnt lag its a pretty impressive feature to have. Im sure you will also have the ability to turn it on or off.
Also I would like to go on the record that in-game video chat is the most retarded idea since.... Damn I can't think of anything more retarded.
It is no more retarded than in-game voice chat. That can be just as distracting if people are screaming in your ears. Besides one positive thing video chat will enable is that you will be able to moon your competitors after wiping the floor with their arses.
