Post by: UncleBob on February 02, 2006, 12:28:00 AM
Or:
Or:
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Which is it?
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 02, 2006, 02:46:08 PM
Post by: nickmitch on February 03, 2006, 04:28:01 PM
Post by: UncleBob on February 03, 2006, 05:56:58 PM
Post by: King of Twitch on February 03, 2006, 06:16:40 PM
Post by: Zach on February 05, 2006, 08:56:54 PM
Edit: Do have to admit, the resemblance above is uncanny
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 05, 2006, 10:46:10 PM
QuoteIts kinda funny how she can look like all of those people, yet none of those people look alike.
Originally posted by: UncleBob
Or:
Or:
Which is it?
Post by: UncleBob on February 06, 2006, 04:51:29 AM
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Originally posted by: Zach
She lost her son in Iraq, so she set up camp outside of bush's ranch, and ended up getting a lot of publicity, and followers. She now is a big part of the protests against the president. I dont think she is a crazy nut-loon, but your opinion of her really centers on what you think of bush, and the war.
Edit: Do have to admit, the resemblance above is uncanny
Well, not to get into politics, but I think Bush is a moron and I was never too keen on the war to begin with (not that I think Saddam should be in power, but...)
However, either way you cut it, Cindy is a crazy nut-loon.
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 06, 2006, 05:29:15 AM
I guess what I'm saying is protest because of your beliefs, not because someone died during wartime.
Post by: wandering on February 06, 2006, 06:52:03 AM
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but your opinion of her really centers on what you think of bush, and the war.
and which tv station you watch for news. I'd say more, but....
SERIOUS DISCUSSION.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 06, 2006, 04:10:50 PM
And don't give me any crap about he didn't sign up to die. You sign up for the military, you face the risk that you are signing up for a job that is going to put you in a war whether you planned on that or not. He did what he felt was right, and Cindy Sheehan just doesn't care enough for the sacrifice he made, because she's a selfish, greedy person.
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 06, 2006, 04:15:20 PM
also:
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Seriously, did you think they just played with candy and bunny farts all day?
bunny....farts....?
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 06, 2006, 04:55:19 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 06, 2006, 07:14:39 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 07, 2006, 06:41:23 AM
Post by: vudu on February 07, 2006, 07:53:38 AM
Post by: wandering on February 07, 2006, 08:50:34 AM
Post by: vudu on February 07, 2006, 09:07:21 AM
Post by: Zach on February 07, 2006, 06:16:10 PM
Wandering: As for your opinion depending on the tv stations, I try to get information elsewhere, those news stations turn you into zombies, roaming the streets in search of human brains. The stations then do more stupid reports on the brain eating to make more Zombies (what a vicious cycle)
Post by: Pryopizm on February 07, 2006, 08:32:57 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 07, 2006, 08:37:47 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 08, 2006, 03:47:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Zach
woah, nitsu, lets try to keep the politics off of the forums, especially in the funhouse, politics dont really belong here (except when discussing Sheehans uncanny resemblance to all those people at the same time) If you absolutely have to say something, at least keep it to fact, like I did when explaining to TvMan's who cindy sheehan was. ok I did say that I didnt think she is a "crazy nut loon" but thats not saying much.
It is a fact that she is a selfish, greedy, conceited person. It's a fact her son died doing something he signed up for. It's a fact that she has turned his death into something about her. It's a fact that she can't honor his sacrifice.
It's not political, I never went into politics.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 08, 2006, 05:34:33 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on February 09, 2006, 06:27:36 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 09, 2006, 06:55:32 AM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheimAnd don't give me any crap about he didn't sign up to die. You sign up for the military, you face the risk that you are signing up for a job that is going to put you in a war whether you planned on that or not. He did what he felt was right, and Cindy Sheehan just doesn't care enough for the sacrifice he made, because she's a selfish, greedy person.
I think it's what he died for which is the issue here.
If my son died defending the freedom of our country, like against Hitler's regime or against Bin Laden's Taliban fighters, it means his death went to protecting the lives of others, including Americans.
In this case, the kid died so Hali-Burton could plunder billions in oil from Iraq and then mysteriously "lose" the records as to how much oil was taken.
I don't know anything about her or why she does what she does (it might be personal motivation), but if I lost a son under similar circumstances, I doubt I'd have a scrap of sanity left to call my own. If you really want to discuss it, send me a PM.
And yes, when they cut down the ugly tree, it fell on her.
–SB
Post by: Zach on February 09, 2006, 08:20:35 AM
I agree with Smash brother, Cindy Sheehan is not discracing the memory of her son. I think she is not protesting because of the fact that her son died, its the reason he died. Sheehan feels (along with a majority of americans) that we screwed up going into Iraq, that we were tricked by our president into believing that saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Our troops are not dead because of a fight for our country, or our freedom, there is no acceptable reason why we are over there in a war that there is a good chance we cannot win.
Yes, Sheehan's son died over there in iraq during wartime, fighting "for our country" in something that he signed up for, the same as all of the troops that are over there. It would be understandable if her son died for freedom, or to protect our country, but that is not the case. That is why our soldiers are dieing without just cause, and that is why Sheehan is protesting.
When you sign up for the army (before the war started) you sign up with the understanding that you will only be sent to war as a last resort. This war has proven that false
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 14, 2006, 06:07:19 PM
is this Usher's dad?
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 14, 2006, 06:26:05 PM
Post by: wandering on February 14, 2006, 08:18:28 PM
Well, actually, I don't remember the sequel that well.
Oh, I might as well respond to nitsu while I'm here, SERIOUS DISCUSSION behind spoilers:
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It is a fact that she is a selfish, greedy, conceited person. It's a fact her son died doing something he signed up for. It's a fact that she has turned his death into something about her. It's a fact that she can't honor his sacrifice.
It's not political, I never went into politics.
Was Gandhi greedy for turning people's suffering into something that was 'about him'? Was Martin Luther King? (not saying Sheehan is comparable to those two) Are people who haven't been affected by the Iraq war the only ones who are allowed to protest it?
No, you don't bring up politics, but I wish you had. Instead of attacking the opinion, you're attacking the opinionee... which isn't, in my view, the best way to go about things.
Post by: Galford on February 22, 2006, 09:33:54 PM
I hope she ready, b/c the media will give an anal exam of hentai proportions.
