Post by: Smash_Brother on February 01, 2006, 08:09:20 AM
I have nothing against porn, but this site is rapidly becoming unsafe to surf while at work, or while around carriers of the X/X chromosome.
Could the ads be toned down a bit?
-SB
Post by: vudu on February 01, 2006, 08:20:39 AM
EDIT #1: Okay, I just saw it for the first time. I assume this is the ad you're referring to....
EDIT #2: Here's another one. Collect the whole set!
EDIT #3: Found two more. This is fun!
EDIT #4: After a few days of nothing new popping up, I found a new one. Woo-hoo!
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 01, 2006, 09:02:40 AM
-SB
Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2006, 03:40:03 AM
Post by: Pryopizm on February 02, 2006, 04:04:21 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 02, 2006, 06:40:07 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 02, 2006, 06:51:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Pryopizm
I love how they totally confuse the concept of "Love" and "OMG ME SO HORNY!"
Although I completely, 100% agree, I won't use that as the basis of my argument because I'm truly worried about someone walking past me while I'm surfing PGC and thinking I'm looking at porn.
I have severe qualms with advertising attempting to use sex to sell products. If a product can't sell itself without preying upon the natural desire for companionship, then it's likely a garbage product.
And furthermore, anyone who expects to find women who look anything even remotely like those using an online dating service is a goddamn fool. I wouldn't be surprised if they added fake members with pictures like those who are, for some reason, always "unavailable", but they're not real.
I could snowball this into a discussion of the sort of standards society imposes upon women and how it disgusts me, but I'll change the world later.
For now, I just don't want to have to hide the window with PGC in it if someone walks past for fear of being labeled a pervert.
-SB
Post by: UncleBob on February 02, 2006, 07:13:12 AM
Seriously, I've got a co-worker at work who is pretty hot (don't tell my wife I said that) and she uses online dating services quite a bit. She just can't find "Mr. Right".
Beside that (non-)point, I do agree. At what point do the ads start to drive people *away* from the site? 4-7 ads on every single page, the godawful Intellitext ads, the pop up ads, the flashy-cause-a-seizure-ads and ads that look like porn? (Thanks for getting rid of those stupid LOUD NOISE ADS!) You can argue that the end-user can always disable the ads using various means, but the majority of users don't know how to do that *or* want to do that. And while I love the ramblings of Ian and stevey's crazy antics, if new users are quickly driven away from a site, the site will get stale.
I heard/read somewhere that it takes less than 5 seconds for the average person to "look" at a webpage and make up their mind if they like the design or not. It probably took you about five seconds to read that last sentance. *That* quick. I spend more than five seconds at times closing all the pop-up windows that I get from visiting this site!
Take that as you will...
Post by: Pale on February 02, 2006, 07:38:39 AM
Firefox + AdBlock
Your workstation's best friend.
If you don't know how AdBlock works, its a very customizable app where you can decide which ads to block.
I use it to block irrelevant ads, like stupid dating services, that I will never click on yet I leave PGC ads that I think are interesting up, like the ones for their t-shirts, or for lik-sang, etc.
Post by: Arbok on February 02, 2006, 07:46:44 AM
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Originally posted by: Pale
Firefox + AdBlock
Your workstation's best friend.
Agree, that's what I use, and I don't get any of the PGC ads, which includes those Intellitext ads that I hate more than anything.
It's very easy to set up, and the plug in will automatically notify you when there is a update. After using it, I really can't imagine how I lived without it.
Post by: UncleBob on February 02, 2006, 07:48:57 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 02, 2006, 08:26:48 AM
-SB
Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2006, 09:39:10 AM
If those five second thigs are true, IGN/Gamespy is f#cked because they use those stupid interceptor ads.
Post by: UncleBob on February 02, 2006, 09:47:35 AM
Post by: bustin98 on February 02, 2006, 11:19:58 AM
Post by: Pryopizm on February 02, 2006, 02:04:53 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
Ah, but not on the front page.
Haha 1Up does. Which I'll never understand. Intercepter ads elsewhere I makes sense, but on the front page. That's just wrong.
Post by: UncleBob on February 02, 2006, 02:36:03 PM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 03, 2006, 03:35:38 PM
Since these ads are not pornographic in nature and are not affiliated with a porn company, I have no grounds to take action on them.
No offense, but if you're surfing PGC at work, you should probably be more concerned that someone will pass by and notice that you're not working.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 04, 2006, 05:19:11 PM
The ads didn't start out this lewd.
I've been around long enough to remember the original batch of ads: the girls were attractive, wearing swimsuits and looking aloof (as misleading internet dating services seem to think men will be enticed into following the link would imagine them), but they were not in the middle of removing any pieces of clothing, nor were they revealing skin which is normally covered by a bathing suit.
I don't think asking for a more conservative set of pictures (especially when we already know they exist) would be asking too much, but I digress.
It's your site, do with it as you will.
-SB
Post by: Arbok on February 04, 2006, 05:56:58 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
...or the fact that you have a very strong foothold argument already at your disposal and yet you refuse to use it.
Hmmm... that if you don't like them then you could always paypal the site a check each month to cover expenses so they wouldn't have to even run adverts?
If the True ads offend you *that* much I would suggest you just block their URL of origin so you won't have to see them again. You said you have control over your station, so just download "Firefox", and then go to "Extensions" on that browser and find, and download, Adblock. Problem solved.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 04, 2006, 06:18:17 PM
And if I were him, I'd be more worried about THIS sort of sentiment:
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Beside that (non-)point, I do agree. At what point do the ads start to drive people *away* from the site? 4-7 ads on every single page, the godawful Intellitext ads, the pop up ads, the flashy-cause-a-seizure-ads and ads that look like porn? (Thanks for getting rid of those stupid LOUD NOISE ADS!) You can argue that the end-user can always disable the ads using various means, but the majority of users don't know how to do that *or* want to do that. And while I love the ramblings of Ian and stevey's crazy antics, if new users are quickly driven away from a site, the site will get stale.
I heard/read somewhere that it takes less than 5 seconds for the average person to "look" at a webpage and make up their mind if they like the design or not. It probably took you about five seconds to read that last sentance. *That* quick. I spend more than five seconds at times closing all the pop-up windows that I get from visiting this site!
Forget whatever I've said in this thread (you can chalk me up an an angry sociopath anyway so everything I say is skewed), I'd be more concerned about this sentiment. I understand advertising is how the site pays for itself, but Unclebob raises some excellent points.
My company sells bandwidth, with a colo facility in Mae East and everything. I'd be the IDEAL sponsor if the target demographic of PGC was different. As it stands, this just wouldn't be the audience to pitch bandwidth hosting or VoIP to.
-SB
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 04, 2006, 07:25:39 PM
We can't do colocation for various technical reasons. Dedicated server is the only way to go, and it costs a lot of money.
Of course I'm very concerned about ads turning people away from the site. How could I not be? But there's little I can do to reduce the number of ads or change their content, except in extreme cases (which I don't believe this is). The only thing I have real control over is the quality of our content. If it's good enough, people will read the site regardless of the ads. So that's what I concentrate on.
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 04, 2006, 08:26:29 PM
I wouldn't recommend co-lo unless you had a person there 24/7 who you know you could rely upon (which, thank god, we do). I've had co-lo monkeys who took a week just to get a damn server restarted.
I'm guessing you're hosted out of Texas (which is near Mae Central), judging by your registered technical contact. Who provides your bandwidth?
Although it may or may not ever come to fruition (depending on how good or bad Nintendo's online service is), you have enough of a fanbase to host regular weekly tournaments for their games, once the Rev comes out. Just use email addresses (not free ones, like yahoo, hotmail, etc. because they can be hacked easily) to send the game's password and/or friend code to the various participants. Charge a $5 entry fee via paypal for entry into the tournament. PGC takes 50% of the entry fees. Winners could either get a portion of the pot or an actual game could be on the line (like trivia is now, just with a cover charge).
$5 is a paltry sum for going head to head in a SSB tournament where prizes are involved (hell, I'd pay that just to play in the tourney at all!). The only requirement is being able to gather up enough players to make it an actual competition instead of just having 5 people show, and PCG could do that with ease.
Again, sorry about what I said. You guys do a great job and while I may not agree with such ads, there's no need to drop my spiel on you over it.
Also, I've donated $50. Hope that takes the sting off the next bandwidth bill.
-SB
Post by: Dasmos on February 05, 2006, 12:45:23 AM
Post by: UncleBob on February 05, 2006, 02:08:16 AM
(just teasing)
Post by: KDR_11k on February 05, 2006, 05:54:34 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 05, 2006, 10:01:18 AM
PGC loads pretty damn fast (at least on broadband. Dialupers, the problem is on your end), so it's rather obvious that the bandwidth isn't being choked. If they aren't colocated (which means to pay someone to host your site at another location, paying only the hosting fee and bandwidth fee), then they at least have a T1 connection.
-SB
Post by: vudu on February 07, 2006, 08:25:51 AM
Post by: UncleBob on February 07, 2006, 08:44:06 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 07, 2006, 09:29:53 AM
I remember a radio DJ was talking about how he checked out one of those dating sites and found that, although the ads showed scores of attractive women, the actual women looking for dates on the site looked absolutely nothing like them. Does that surprise anyone?
-SB
Post by: UncleBob on February 07, 2006, 09:34:44 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 07, 2006, 09:56:04 AM
I admit that's a drastically more tasteful ad than any of the others, but I highly doubt the woman in the picture is actually subscribed to the service, and if she is, she's a goddamn rarity.
-SB
Post by: vudu on February 07, 2006, 10:13:45 AM
However, his doesn't count, because it appears to be for a different online dating service. I STILL WIN!
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 07, 2006, 10:21:36 AM
You haven't even scratched the horizontal ads yet.
-SB
Post by: vudu on February 07, 2006, 10:43:53 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 07, 2006, 10:56:46 AM
They're actually square ads which appear at the top of the forum, but now I can't get them to appear, despite having spent the money I donated on bandwidth reloading all those times.
EDIT:
At least this one isn't dangerously close to showing bush. Plus, it looks like she just got pushed into the sand and is looking for some revenge or something.
-SB
Post by: UncleBob on February 07, 2006, 11:11:05 AM
I found one... Do I get a cookie?
*edit* - found another... two cookies!
*edit again* - they keep coming.
*EDIT AGAIN AGAIN* - crap, everytime I hit the "forums" link, there's a new one...
Post by: vudu on February 07, 2006, 11:14:57 AM
Post by: UncleBob on February 07, 2006, 11:32:02 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 07, 2006, 12:12:07 PM
Like the Reggie gag, though.
Some dating site should make a big deal about catering to gamers, male and female alike. Rather than trying to lure people in with pictures of paid, airbrushed models, they'd be better off convincing potential customers that they already share a common interest with the men/women on the site.
-SB
Post by: ruby_onix on February 07, 2006, 02:30:19 PM
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The lower left one is so close to showing labia it's ridiculous...
I think you're inventing "almost seen" things.
Seriously, these ads aren't so extreme that they're making PGC unsafe for work. You're just worried that your boss will come around the corner and find you drooling. You just need more mental dicipline. Or maybe more porn. Or less porn. You're not getting exactly the right amount of porn that you need.
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 07, 2006, 02:32:50 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 07, 2006, 04:38:38 PM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
I think you're inventing "almost seen" things.
No, I'm quite confident that there would only be another centimeter or so on either side of that bathing suit before that ad went from "T" to "M" (I'll expand that section of the ad if you don't believe me).
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Seriously, these ads aren't so extreme that they're making PGC unsafe for work. You're just worried that your boss will come around the corner and find you drooling. You just need more mental dicipline. Or maybe more porn. Or less porn. You're not getting exactly the right amount of porn that you need.
My "boss" is just about the biggest male chauvinist you could imagine. He'd stop to admire the ad and insist I don't change the page until he had had ample time to look at it.
I own 25% of the company, so I'm not exactly worried about being fired (too many systems rely upon me to function).
I just make it a point to avoid having women who just barely have their pubic areas covered on my screen while others can be walking past me.
Fortunately, these ads don't show up all that often, it seems.
-SB
Post by: Dasmos on February 07, 2006, 06:39:05 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 07, 2006, 07:43:22 PM
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 08, 2006, 04:23:38 AM
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Originally posted by: Dasmos
Ahahahaha! Oh no! I musn't go anywhere near the beach, near bush everywhere
If you cannot grasp the differences between having the ads come up on your screen while at work and staring at women in bathing suits in REAL LIFE, then I'd wager you either don't work or don't spend much time staring at women in real life, or both.
-SB
Post by: King of Twitch on February 08, 2006, 09:01:33 AM
OOO, sounds like an idea for another GIRL GAMER EDITORIAL?
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 08, 2006, 09:13:16 AM
The same could work for people who love to ski or like the same types of music, etc.
-SB
Post by: Dasmos on February 08, 2006, 02:50:05 PM
Quotelolz.
Originally posted by: Smash_BrotherQuote
Originally posted by: Dasmos
Ahahahaha! Oh no! I musn't go anywhere near the beach, near bush everywhere
If you cannot grasp the differences between having the ads come up on your screen while at work and staring at women in bathing suits in REAL LIFE, then I'd wager you either don't work or don't spend much time staring at women in real life, or both.
-KURT COBAIN
There is no nudity. At worst these are women in bathing suits. I think you're over-exaggerating the whole thing.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 08, 2006, 06:29:09 PM
Post by: UncleBob on February 08, 2006, 06:41:12 PM
But how much does the average monthly bandwidth bill for this site run? Like, ball park figure...
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 08, 2006, 08:14:28 PM
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Originally posted by: DasmosThere is no nudity. At worst these are women in bathing suits. I think you're over-exaggerating the whole thing.
I think you're over-estimating the validity of your opinion on this matter.
It's nothing personal, but unless you're one of the people who walks past me, it's not an issue. It'd be nice if I didn't have to worry about you caring personally, but again, not you I'm worried about.
–SB
Post by: UncleBob on February 10, 2006, 02:34:39 PM
This was in my e-mail today... fun!
Post by: PIAC on February 12, 2006, 02:28:01 AM
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The lower left one is so close to showing labia it's ridiculous...
Are you looking at a different picture? Cause it's just some broad in bathers. Nothing to get offended by. Besides, anyone who thinks these adverts are pornography is probably gullable enough to believe you when you say it isn't.
-SB
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 12, 2006, 11:08:53 AM
On that note, someone apparently opened the winged monkey cage.
And here I thought the witch had a sense of humor...
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on February 14, 2006, 11:54:48 AM
WTH kind of metaphor is that?
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 14, 2006, 12:14:21 PM
They stopped, though, so maybe I'm just paranoid (I had a plentiful cache of horror yet to unload, too...).
Post by: PIAC on February 16, 2006, 11:18:23 AM
Post by: TedDanson85 on April 06, 2006, 07:00:34 AM
Post by: Dasmos on April 06, 2006, 05:10:41 PM
Post by: stevey on June 30, 2006, 10:20:22 AM
Post by: Bloodworth on July 01, 2006, 09:15:35 AM
Post by: BigJim on July 01, 2006, 09:48:14 AM
Too many guys would click, I guess.
Post by: Ceric on July 08, 2006, 12:28:35 PM
Post by: miedo on July 09, 2006, 08:17:36 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 10, 2006, 05:16:34 AM
Post by: vudu on October 15, 2006, 07:18:38 AM
EDIT: Found a few more.
EDIT #2: Christ, almighty. They just keep coming. This is why I don't use IE.
Post by: Arbok on October 15, 2006, 08:58:08 AM
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 17, 2006, 11:10:17 AM
Holy SH*T, Bloodworth, you're right: I didn't even realize that that's what was going on, but in hindsight, it makes perfect sense.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 17, 2006, 11:55:06 PM
apparently some new kid started downloading porn, on top of that i heard he was actually watching it like it was nothing during a class......and even worse it was not a one time thing. What kind of twisted S.O.B. risks getting expelled ($$$$) for a boner?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 18, 2006, 11:59:16 AM
Post by: vudu on February 24, 2007, 03:27:19 AM
Someone needs to start telling me when new ones pop up. I can only imagine the greatness that I have missed by not visiting NWR with IE on a regular basis.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 24, 2007, 05:44:43 AM
But I ask, doesn't NWR have control of what they can and can't show? I mean, that you need the money to keep the site running but don't you have control over certain things?
EDIT: Never mind, read the whole thing.
Post by: Kairon on February 27, 2007, 05:30:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Jonnyboy117
We are hosted by Webcore Technologies in Austin, TX. They are excellent but not cheap. We pay for bandwidth on a tiered rate with no choke failsafe, so if our traffic suddenly doubled one month, the site would run fine throughout and we'd get hit with a monstrous bill.
You guys'll tell us when such an emergency happens of course, right?
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Arbok on February 27, 2007, 06:49:39 PM
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Originally posted by: vudu
I found some more True ads!
Yeah, more protruding rib cages, sexy!
Post by: IceCold on February 27, 2007, 07:07:12 PM
QuoteAhaha. There's not much chance it will, especially with the name change
Originally posted by: KaironQuote
Originally posted by: Jonnyboy117
We are hosted by Webcore Technologies in Austin, TX. They are excellent but not cheap. We pay for bandwidth on a tiered rate with no choke failsafe, so if our traffic suddenly doubled one month, the site would run fine throughout and we'd get hit with a monstrous bill.
You guys'll tell us when such an emergency happens of course, right?
~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Crimm on February 27, 2007, 07:37:24 PM
Post by: JonLeung on March 01, 2007, 02:48:07 PM
Everybody does it, but I'd prefer there to be less of the sexy ads while I'm surfing at work.
I don't know why I currently get sexy ads at work, and unsexy ads at home. If ads are necessary, I would much rather be bombarded with stuff about some crappy screensavers or some diploma thingy than busty chicks.
Post by: Ceric on March 05, 2007, 03:31:13 PM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
The reason why I haven't been here much is because I'm usually here while at work, and since we moved offices, my monitor is now facing OUTWARD where EVERYBODY can see what I'm wasting my time on.
Everybody does it, but I'd prefer there to be less of the sexy ads while I'm surfing at work.
I don't know why I currently get sexy ads at work, and unsexy ads at home. If ads are necessary, I would much rather be bombarded with stuff about some crappy screensavers or some diploma thingy than busty chicks.
In a way thats wrong. You might want to try portable firefox with the adblock Plus. Or Ad muncher for IE. Whatever you can manage at work.
Though I do wish more game related ads would show up. You know this a game site. I mean there has to be some game company that wants to advertise here, like Gamefly be a good idea.
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 14, 2007, 06:36:04 AM
The saddest part of the True ads is that they prey upon the stupidity of their potential customers. They'd have better luck if they had pictures of women who looked like they might actually be real rather than pictures which are clearly done in a professional photo studio or are CGI.
Typical digital camera photos would be a lot more convincing. Better yet, pictures of women playing video games. I'm sure they'd get a lot more hits if they claimed to have women like that on the sites.
Post by: UncleBob on March 14, 2007, 10:51:54 AM
Post by: Crimm on March 27, 2007, 05:11:29 AM
This makes me happy.
Post by: Dasmos on April 02, 2007, 05:34:17 AM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
I'm suddenly reminded of that picture of the naked chick with her various parts covered up by a conviently placed SNES w/controllers.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 11, 2007, 06:31:53 AM
Post by: Crimm on May 16, 2007, 09:21:35 AM
YAY NEW AD
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 11, 2007, 07:51:56 AM
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