Post by: ThePerm on January 15, 2006, 08:46:17 AM
Post by: nickmitch on January 15, 2006, 08:49:53 AM
I gues we're just f*cked for being Nintendo fans.
Post by: Strell on January 15, 2006, 09:35:34 AM
WHAT GOOD GAMES? ALL WE KNOW IS SMASH BROS. AND METROID. AND MARIO. AND ZELDA AT SOME POINT. AND ANIMAL CROSSING. AND I'M GUESSING ALL THOSE OTHER FRANCHISES. LIKE PIKMIN.
WTF. DUMB BORING FRANCHISES.
No offense Ian.
Seriously though, outside of franchises, we have very little confirmed, or even rumored. Would be nice that if, tomorrow, at this supposed announcement, they give us some idea of games.
Post by: Khushrenada on January 15, 2006, 10:49:29 AM
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on January 15, 2006, 11:03:56 AM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 15, 2006, 12:57:39 PM
Back to topica at hand, I am with Ian on this ne, so far the Game Cube has neeb pretty disapointing as far as games go, tehre been JUST ENOUGH to keep me occupied but not enough diversity to satisfy my tastses. DS is starting to get better but still lacking in SEVERAL good genres that I am still waiting for.
As for Revolution I DO expect there will be some good games but I have doubts still about the new interface and will wait and see hwo it works before passing judgement. It could actualy SUCK and then what? yeah if the games suck a nd the controller doesnt work like they say it does then the system will suck.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 15, 2006, 01:05:32 PM
Post by: BlkPaladin on January 15, 2006, 01:46:56 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 15, 2006, 02:00:32 PM
anyways um yeah werent we talking about video games or something.
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on January 15, 2006, 02:03:46 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 15, 2006, 02:05:29 PM
Post by: BlkPaladin on January 15, 2006, 02:13:11 PM
And I hope we see something from the Tokyo development studio, in the form of some of the promises Nintendo made when it was created such as new franchises.
Post by: animecyberrat on January 15, 2006, 02:17:01 PM
Post by: cubist on January 15, 2006, 03:26:38 PM
Anyways, I agree with animecyberrat...Nintendo might just be landing their system for 2007. A Fall 2007 launch date is probably the only way Nintendo can do a couple of things:
(1) Better launch games and making full use of the REV controller.
(2) Last minute hardware changes after observing XBOX 360 and PS3 launches.
(3) Improve Nintendo WiFi to provide a gaming experience similar to XBOX Live and still remain $FREE-99.
That's it.
Back on topic though: Too many good games...despite what many think, the GCN was loaded with good games...even more than the N64 era. I would expect this trend to continue as Nintendo becomes even more familiar with 3D development cycles. Miyamoto and EAD need to look at the pace Spielberg is filming and releasing these days...excellent planning and straight to the point with editing AND the movie still rocks. I wish Nintendo was more like this.
Post by: ThePerm on January 15, 2006, 03:33:12 PM
metroid prime was released in 11/17/2002, metroid prime 2 was released 11/15/2004. Thats a 2 year difference its now 2006. Metroid prime will prolly be the flagship launch title. 11/x/2006
Post by: JonLeung on January 15, 2006, 04:16:52 PM
We all expect at least one new game in each of the major franchises each generation, sometimes two, or even more (I'm looking at you, Mario Party). So just because another SSB, Mario, and Metroid are said to be in development, doesn't mean there's already too many good games. They wouldn't all be at launch, there will likely be at least a few months between the major games, etc.
I would only start proclaiming that there are too many good games if I had any reason to believe they would all come within a short time frame, or if there was a lot of third-party support and those games happened to be good.
I suppose the Virtual Console has lots of good games. Not new, but good. And lots of them. So I'll agree with you there. I also don't believe they'll have every game available for launch even if they could - but there should be a good selection to start with.
Post by: nickmitch on January 15, 2006, 05:04:38 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 15, 2006, 05:20:05 PM
So OK right now you can use GC tols to get started workingon Rev games, buit what if Nintnedo gorws som testicles and decides to step it up and out muslce the competition AND provide a major launch with enough games over differnt genres to attract all the demographics they are looking for and they decide to save up for a massive marketing =blitz and actauly want to go for not only 1st place but for the kill.
What I see is Nintendo could say, push the launch back to early 2007 say maybe around arpil or march even, that woudl give them more time to ad HD support (not nescasary but woudl defintaley help image out), add more muscle to graphics chips plus ram etc, spend more time deveolping complete games that stand out and covering ALL bases.
Ill be frank the more I play PLAYSTATION and X-Box the more I start to feel disapointed with Nintenod, look if theres not decent 2d and 3d fighitng games at launch, no good asction titles, no KICK ASS MArio Paltformer that goes back to Mushroom KJigdom and gets back to roots, and if the oNine games aret enmjoyable or exectuted right rev is gonna fall flat onits ass. They cant reach fighithng game fans with Smash bros alone, its NOT A traditiaolanl fighting game.
They also need to beef up their racing games, get Crusin USA for launch and maybe a little more than just metroid and mario. Also I am startuing to lean towards early 2007 because Twilight princess will need time to wind down before they replace GC withits successor. they release Zelda then they have to give GC at least 6 more months before abandoming it, also there snaruto games ocming next yer and who knwos what lese I got mroe to say but i gotta go and i cant type rigth now its a mess.
Post by: Nosferat2 on January 15, 2006, 06:30:05 PM
MLK should be celebrated by everyone in the US.
NO body works in California, expect naturally retail.
BTW im in Northern Cal
Where are you abouts Cubist.
Post by: darknight06 on January 15, 2006, 06:32:06 PM
Post by: IceCold on January 15, 2006, 06:47:00 PM
Import Jump SuperStars..
Post by: ThePerm on January 15, 2006, 06:54:31 PM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 15, 2006, 06:56:14 PM
I edited my post in an attempt to stay on topic and avoid a fight.
I have faith Nintendo will make good games as always, but I have doubts about certain genres and am still worried about that revmote, but not too much cuz of nunhcuk and shell.
I am also concerned with the emphasis on 1st person shooters yet no talk of Sports games, racing games, fighitng games, Fantasy adventure games, action games, all we get so far is metroid Prime Mario 128, Smash Bros online and some new IP, most likeley 1st person shooter or somthing to showcase revmote.
But staying on topic with too many good games, I quess I will leave it alone obviously Nintendo fan boys eat up anythig with the golden seal of approval and dont look for substance.
Game Cube is like trying to survive on just fruits and veggies, sure it provides enough to keep you alive but doesnt satisfy your hunger for meat. I have almost 30 games for my GC right now and that number climbs every week, and I would have had a LOT more games by now if they ahdent been canceld or moved over to that PS Crap.
Post by: animecyberrat on January 15, 2006, 07:07:23 PM
I wanted to comment on this and forgot, I wont get into details but theres to obsitcles right there, first off its not my kind of fighting game, second I dont import games ever. But I am hoping got Mortal Kombat and Street FIghter and Tekken type fighitng games, and eventualy something DBZ related. I expect Atari to get some DBZ games for DS eventualy and hope tehres some decentones for Rev but still that wont be enough to satisfy my tstses, I need Samurai Showdown, Virtua Fighter, MK, Street Fighter, and the list goes on.
KI would be nice but that wasnt one of the better fighters out there, Primal Rage is good too.
Post by: ThePerm on January 15, 2006, 07:35:26 PM
Post by: IceCold on January 15, 2006, 08:17:46 PM
So don't worry, the Revolution caters to that genre extremely well. Also pure Adventure games; boy those have the potential to be brilliant on the Rev.
Post by: animecyberrat on January 15, 2006, 08:20:25 PM
Post by: IceCold on January 15, 2006, 08:55:01 PM
Post by: wandering on January 16, 2006, 12:10:22 AM
Which, in my opinion, is kind of a silly thing to complain about....yeah, if the rev is lacking in certain genres that would suck, but since we don't know that yet, and since next to no games have been formally announced (except for a few obviousd continuations of big franchises we knew were coming anyway), there ain't nothing to complain about yet.
Post by: animecyberrat on January 16, 2006, 05:22:50 AM
I like to try new stuff also but I am used to playing certain types of games and I always look forawrd to getting games like that and there just deosnt seam to be manyof the kinds of game I like anymore. Its not just Gc its ever system but it seams like a lot of the games I wanted to try out didnt make it to GC and arent likely to make it to rev unless things start going differently. I see how things are looking up on teh surface but when I look deeper than that I see that it isnt so promising.
Maybe its not the games maybe its me, maybe I am getting older and not as into video games as I used to be. I have always been a person to play games in a series because I like to go with what i am familiar with. I like to play Mega Man and Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat and Castlevania games because they have always been around and will always have some familiaraity to them.
The biggest thing about Rev that DOES interest me and givces me plenty of reasons to not worry about the new games IS the Virtual Console, I actualy plan on spending more time playing the old games than the new games, considering I spend more time playing my SNES and NES now more than my GC anyways. Its like the new games never live up to the old games so I always go back.
Thats why i hated mario Sunshine, it wasnt anything liek previous mario games and ai felt betrayed playing it, it was like Nintendo hada this game that may have been fun to play I ddint try it for very long, but since it didnt have ANYTHING at all related to Mario I just couldnt get into it, all the familiar sights I was used to seeing in Mario games were missing and it felt wierd.
I dont think I will go back and replay Super mario Bros anytime soon on the rev since I just got it for GBA a couple months ago and spend a lot of time playing it there, but IU do ecpect to goback and play a lot of those child hood favorites that are hard to track down that I have been missing. My NES selection is so pitiful right now it sucks because NES games are hard to come by, unless your willing to eff around with ebay which I am not. I always ramble on like this when I talk abot video games because vidoe games for me isnt just sit down and play a game to have fun, its a way to escape form the real world once in a while AND to go back and rspark nastalgic feelings and rememeber thinsg form my past.
See I am a person who moved aroudn a lot as a kid, way too much to be honest, and nothing ever stayed the same for very long, my life is always filled with instability, so I always go back to teh 1 thing that never changes, and that is video games. Now they are changing the way games are played and it worries me to death. I dont want to play a video game that deosnt even feel liek avideo game because it defeats the purpose of playing video games.
If i was still a child and I just played cuz they are fun and what not it would be different but I have other things to do so I dont get much time to play games so when i do I want the experience to be worth something to me. Game Cube has offered a hand full of GREAT experiences that have managed to satisfy me to apoint, yet it was been lacking in so many areas I am familiar with its like i sometimes wish i had bought PS2 and got all those games, but then I would be mising out on teh good Nintendo games.
So its a catch 22 for me, except I have hatred for Sony and just distrust of Microsoft so I stick to Nintendo who I do lose faith in but am Always surprised at how they keep making great games.
I dont mean to go off forever like that its just I some times wonder why I even play video games in the first place and I am startiung to have second thoughts about the Rev anyways, maybe i want to spend my time doing more important things, yest I still want to geta rev because i want to have access to the classics. Anyways I will wait and see what happens and if the games are interesting enough to intice me then who knows I might enjoy the thing, but for now all I care about for Revb IS the VC and maybe Mario 128 if they dont scew it up. I will not enjoy it if there are not Goombas and Koopas and Mushrooms and Bricks yu bash with oru head and Gold COins and a Gaol at teh end of each level and all the other things that make Mario games Mario games, and I hope for the return of Luigi and maybe tehy will realize that they can do a 3d 2 player game liek the old one you knwo TUREN BASED. Anyways its struff liek that um but thats all I have to say on this topic now I propabaly said to much already.
Post by: ThePerm on January 16, 2006, 06:37:38 AM
Post by: animecyberrat on January 16, 2006, 02:52:50 PM
See Thast why I am glad that 3rd party supports was better this gen than last cuz it brought moany more good games to GC than just Nintendos hit and miss stuff, but I still missed out on so many games mostly due to Midways adandoning the Cube and they make a lot of games I like.
Speakinjg of which Midway stated on thier website or maybe itw as an email whatever i forget but they said tehy are not going to support teh DS and have no plans to support Rev, anybody else distrubed by this or do you think they will change thier minds?
Post by: Nosferat2 on January 16, 2006, 03:15:54 PM
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Originally posted by: ThePerm
i now have like 30something games....what is the tie in ratio on gamecube seriously
I have 57. That is a good question..What is the tie ratio for the GC. Anyone know?
Post by: IceCold on January 16, 2006, 04:01:19 PM
They already have a DS DBZ game, if you're into the series..
Post by: Mario on January 16, 2006, 04:12:55 PM
I know what you mean perm, there's tons of great GC and DS games that i'll never play, and it makes me a little sad to think about, and Rev is gonna be even worse.
The tie ratio for GC is around 10. I have around 50 myself.
Post by: Hostile Creation on January 16, 2006, 09:36:43 PM
I'm pretty sure I have just under twenty Gamecube games. About eight GBA and about eight DS.
I guess I can blame my DVD collection.
Post by: Mario on January 17, 2006, 02:00:27 AM
Post by: Ceric on January 17, 2006, 03:38:42 AM
Post by: JonLeung on January 17, 2006, 03:47:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
I have about 5 devices that can play DVDs in my house, but less than 5 DVDs.
Sounds like my household and Game Boys.
I got a Super Game Boy just to play Link's Awakening (non-DX), a Game Boy Pocket and Game Boy Color when the Pokémon phenomenon started, followed up by a GBA and GBA SP when the later Pokémon games came out, and then a DS. I never had an original Game Boy (unless you count the Game Boy Pocket, but by that time the GBC was already out).
I already have about as many DS games as all my GB/GBC/GBA games - and there's many DS games I meant to pick up but haven't.
Post by: animecyberrat on January 17, 2006, 05:37:49 AM
I do want to get those Lord of the Rings games I keep passing on and I am still looking for wind waker to go back down to 10 dollars, it went back up to 20 due to demand or something (or maybe the game store is building hype for TP who knows.)
oh and I need to get some DC games and body knwo some good ones I might have missed. Our DC selection is rather small right now, we have Sonic adventure, Evolution, Shenmue and Street FIghter Alpha 3, I am still debating about KISS SPycho circus and one knwo if its good. Also is the 1st soul caliber good? I have SC2 on GC but never played original.
Also besides WW and Star Foz Adventures are there any other good action adventure games I shoudl look for? I have Prince of persia WW but I want to play Sands of time before I get to it so maybe I will look for that.
OK last question and this one needs answer please, did Ubisoft release the current Prince game Two Throwns for GC, cuz I seen it at walmart for PS2 and Xbox but no Cube. Did it sell out or was it shafted. Oh and I just got Gun a few days ago and so far have mixed feelings but its cool cuz my parents love weterns so its one more game they like to play.
Post by: cubist on January 17, 2006, 06:33:45 AM
Post by: IceCold on January 17, 2006, 11:23:49 AM
2) Buy the original Soul Calibur - this you have to
3) Two Thrones is on GCN
Post by: Nosferat2 on January 17, 2006, 01:04:03 PM
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Originally posted by: cubist
I'm in SOCAL Nosferat2...and you're absolutely right...nobody works in California...and I've got 60+ despite the fact that I've turned GCN games in that were supposed to be good, but sucked (e.g., GUN). What is the ratio?
Yea i have had more but traded a couple or so booty games. Final Fantasy CC and Baldurs gate got turned in as soon as finshed them. Didnt want those piles of garbage trying to pass as RPGs in my collection.
Now that i think of it i have more than 57 cause i bought two copies of games were i wanted one in my collection unmolested. you know, never know when a sealed copy of Eternal Darkness or Beyond good and evil will sell for a couple hundred dollars...
What is the ratio?
Are you asking what it means or what is it actually?
Well someone posted that it was about 10 to 1.(thanks to who that was, sorry forgot your name). The ratio itself is the number of games bought per console sold.
