Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: NotSoStu on December 26, 2005, 11:40:27 AM
Title: No more Phoenix Wright?
Post by: NotSoStu on December 26, 2005, 11:40:27 AM
http://www.capcom.com/nintendoDS.xpml
Notice something's missing? Most sites don't havei t either... ;_;
Title: RE:No more Phoenix Wright?
Post by: ShawnSt3r on December 27, 2005, 02:16:12 AM
If so, thats a shame, it was such a fresh experience, I wish more people had bought it.
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Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on December 27, 2005, 08:35:11 AM
Tell me about it. I've been trying to track down a copy for a couple days now and it seems like everyone and their mother has either back-ordered it or doesn't even have it in their listings. Very annoying, indeed.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on December 27, 2005, 08:45:41 AM
Very annoying indeed, indeed! This and DDR Mario are the only games I really want right now, what a disaster!
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Post by: 31 Flavas on December 27, 2005, 10:47:15 AM
my local eb has a copy of Phoenix Wright, it's $29.99. want me to pick it up for you?
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Post by: Chris1 on December 27, 2005, 01:26:39 PM
Speaking of games we can't find, I havent seen Castlevania anywhere! Anyone see it feel also free to pick it up for me, but I can't pay you back, but your genorosity will be much appreciated
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 27, 2005, 03:41:43 PM
=O I shall treasure my imported copy. This probably means the UK/Euro release will be cancelled for lol now.
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Post by: Talon on December 28, 2005, 01:47:57 AM
Thats weird cause its still schedualed for a feburary 28th 2006 release in Aus...
I hope it hasnt been canned, the ds has some of the most refreshing titles of this generation (consoles included)!!!
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Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on December 29, 2005, 01:05:11 PM
In a surprise turn of events, my GameStop got a new shipment of copies. I picked mine up today and I'm absolutely loving it.
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Post by: jasonditz on December 29, 2005, 02:52:20 PM
Wow, glad I bought mine the day it came out. This was by far the most satisfying experience I've had on the DS so far.
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Post by: jasonditz on December 29, 2005, 02:56:29 PM
Maybe since Capcom didn't do any real advertising (apart from a print ad or two) they did a really small run and figured that would be enough. When you're releasing something this unique, it must be hard to predict how many you'll sell.
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Post by: Renny on December 30, 2005, 06:08:01 AM
It's actually very easy. If you make a small production run, there won't be enough. If you give the game a big production run, there'll be too many. I don't know why they can't get it right.
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 30, 2005, 06:41:33 PM
Hey, speaking of Phoenix Wright, I have a question about multiple game saves.
I just borrowed this game from a friend and she hasn't beaten it yet, When I save my game, does it overwrite hers? Or is it just unlocking stages? How does it work?
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Post by: jasonditz on December 30, 2005, 07:41:55 PM
If she's in the middle of a case, it'll overwrite her progress when you save. Whenever a case is over, it frees up a new case (well, until you beat the game).
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 30, 2005, 09:38:56 PM
Crap, she is gonna be maaad at me...
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Post by: Mario on January 04, 2006, 05:32:27 AM
This is strange, considering Capcom announced a second Phoenix Wright game for DS a little while back, they'd want to get the original game into more peoples hands.
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 04, 2006, 06:07:58 AM
"Speaking of games we can't find, I havent seen Castlevania anywhere!"
Same here. I got it for my brother for Christmas. Every store I checked was out except Toys R Us. I quickly snagged a copy and a few weeks later they too didn't have it. It seems to be following the tradition of the last two portable Castlevania games of having a limited print run. I can understand that sort of thing for something like Phoenix Wright. That's a new unproven franchise and if it doesn't sell as well as expected it's risky to manufacture more copies. But Castlevania is a major franchise in gaming. If Circle of the Moon is still worth manufacturing years after release why not the other games?
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 04, 2006, 08:28:58 AM
Maybe Konami doesn't think Castlevania sells in the US? I've seen plenty of copies of all Castlevania games over here and the games were available for a long time. OTOH, Phoenix Wright hasn't got a release here.
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Post by: Mr Bloober on January 05, 2006, 12:11:48 PM
Sure am glad I got it for Christmas, that would have been ANOTHER discontinued game I couldn't get.
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Post by: ruby_onix on January 05, 2006, 06:12:25 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Ian Sane "Speaking of games we can't find, I havent seen Castlevania anywhere!"
Same here. I got it for my brother for Christmas. Every store I checked was out except Toys R Us. I quickly snagged a copy and a few weeks later they too didn't have it. It seems to be following the tradition of the last two portable Castlevania games of having a limited print run. I can understand that sort of thing for something like Phoenix Wright. That's a new unproven franchise and if it doesn't sell as well as expected it's risky to manufacture more copies. But Castlevania is a major franchise in gaming. If Circle of the Moon is still worth manufacturing years after release why not the other games?
Dawn of Sorrow seems to have just been reprinted. If you're looking for a copy to keep for yourself, Toys 'R' Us has it for $45 Canadian, while Electronics Boutique has it for $50.
The nearly impossible to find "Lost in Blue" (also from Konami, with the exact same cart size) seems to have been reprinted at the same time, and is at both TRU and EB for $40.
Also, EB just had a new copy of Riviera for the GBA. Had.
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Post by: Rhoq on January 06, 2006, 01:12:37 PM
I was lucky enough to snag a copy this afternoon. I'm glad I did. It's awesome. Incredibly deep for a text-based game.
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Post by: 31 Flavas on January 06, 2006, 02:04:49 PM
If anyone stills needs a copy I might be able to hook you up. When I was in my EB picking up Phoenix for knowsnothing, they said they had 1 copy left.
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Post by: Rhoq on January 06, 2006, 02:09:41 PM
Fair warning - when I purchased my copy of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney this afternoon, I was told that Trauma Center: Under The Knife has just gone out-of-print as well. That's a game I've been planning on buying, as I'm sure many other here are too. Act fast before it's too late! I'll probably pick it up this weekend.
Title: RE: No more Phoenix Wright?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on January 06, 2006, 02:38:45 PM
Everything's being discontinued to make way for more copies of Elf Bowling and Snood 2.
Title: RE: No more Phoenix Wright?
Post by: ruby_onix on January 06, 2006, 10:37:58 PM
Quote Fair warning - when I purchased my copy of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney this afternoon, I was told that Trauma Center: Under The Knife has just gone out-of-print as well. That's a game I've been planning on buying, as I'm sure many other here are too. Act fast before it's too late! I'll probably pick it up this weekend.
Trauma Center is made by Atlus. Atlus games go out of print after they make their first run, which is usually around 500 copies.
You're probably just lucky in that your local store still had some kicking around until now, and they were running low, and they only just now tried to order some more and noticed that they couldn't.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on January 07, 2006, 02:05:11 AM
Atlus sounds like a pretty excellent publisher. Extremely limited US distribution, no PAL releases at all. Best!
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Post by: Cap on January 07, 2006, 07:18:04 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Rhoq Fair warning - when I purchased my copy of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney this afternoon, I was told that Trauma Center: Under The Knife has just gone out-of-print as well. That's a game I've been planning on buying, as I'm sure many other here are too. Act fast before it's too late! I'll probably pick it up this weekend.
i really wanted to buy trauma center(and still do), but unfortunately not a single store i went to had a copy(or ever did...i asked). whats the point of making a game if noone can buy the thing?
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Post by: Rhoq on January 07, 2006, 01:03:15 PM
I picked-up Trauma Center this afternoon. All I can say is, like with Phoenix Wright - buy it now if you can find it.
Both games are awesome (as long as you don't mind a lot of reading). I know they are niche titles, but how neither game has achieved success truly puzzles me. 'Phoenix Wright' is a great concept which works surprisingly well as a game, and 'Trauma Center' just couldn't be pulled-off on any other system. Both games look & sound great and provide incredibly deep gameplay experiences..
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Post by: ruby_onix on January 07, 2006, 02:02:19 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey Atlus sounds like a pretty excellent publisher. Extremely limited US distribution, no PAL releases at all. Best!
I should probably try and explain.
Atlus of Japan is I guess a medium-sized developer/publisher, most well known for "Shin Megami Tensei", an RPG series that was called "the biggest RPG series you've never heard of" back in the SNES days. It's sales keep up with Square and Enix RPGs in Japan, but since it deals with demons and modern-day Japan, nobody thought it would ever be seen outside of Japan.
Then in the PSX/N64 days, a startup American translation/publishing company wanted to give SMT a chance, so they talked to Atlus and became "partners" with them, becoming "Atlus USA". They're actually independant from Atlus of Japan, and they don't bring over everything Atlus makes, just the stuff they like (which is most of it). And they pick up games made by other developers.
They brought over Quest's Ogre Battle games (up until SquareEnix bought them up), and the first Nippon Ichi strategy RPGs. After Disgaea made it big, they even helped Nippon Ichi set up NIS America, so they could bring over their games for themselves. Atlus USA apparently did half the work on NIS America's first game.
Atlus USA is really just a small company though, so since they're taking huge risks with the weird kind of games no other publishers want to touch, they minimize their risks by never sitting on a lot of unsold product. When bigger publishers look at a game, they'll say "there might be 500 people in America who want that game". So they either bet that it'll somehow sell 5000, or they just skip it, saying it's not worth their time. Atlus USA thinks 500 sales is better than zero, as long as they like the game, so that's how they do it.
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Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 07, 2006, 02:39:42 PM
Am I the only one who even mildly enjoyed Dodgeball? Especially the GBA version? Great games...
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Post by: jasonditz on January 07, 2006, 03:27:30 PM
Bestbuy.com has Trauma Center in stock and shipping... if anyone's interested.
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Post by: Rhoq on January 07, 2006, 03:58:00 PM
Quote Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede Am I the only one who even mildly enjoyed Dodgeball? Especially the GBA version? Great games...
I loved both, the NES original and the GBA version (as a matter of fact, it's been in by DS' GBA slot for a while now).
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Post by: Mr Bloober on January 07, 2006, 10:47:58 PM
I was recently updating my Game Collection at IGN and when I did a search for Pheonix Wright, it brought up a sequel for the DS. Anybody else heard of this? Or is IGN off their rocker?
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Post by: ShyGuy on January 07, 2006, 10:53:30 PM
from what I understand, Phoenix Wright has already been 3 gba games in Japan
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Post by: IceCold on January 07, 2006, 11:11:36 PM
I also heard of a sequel, but I don't think it's confirmed..
And yeah, there were GBA Phoenix games, but I think they were Japan-only.
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Post by: jasonditz on January 08, 2006, 01:43:09 PM
wasn't there a language option in the Japanese version of the DS title? Any idea if the GBA ones do as well?
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Post by: ruby_onix on January 08, 2006, 02:01:14 PM
As I understand it, there was Gyakuten Saiban 1 to 3 on the GBA. Then Gyakuten Saiban on the DS was an enhanced remake of GS1, and Capcom decided to make it a more sophisticated "international" kind of game, so they gave it a full English language option.
Since it was already English, Capcom USA decided to bring it over, deleted/locked the Japanese mode (apparently the average American finds exposure to other languages "offensive", not "sophisticated"), changed it's name to "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney", and made a number of other minor tweaks and adjustments to the game.
Gyakuten Saiban 4 is supposedly coming out next on the DS in Japan.
