Post by: ShawnSt3r on December 23, 2005, 03:46:15 AM
Some may scoff that alot of the good games on the Dreamcast can be had on Gamecube, but that wasnt the case when it was still up and running. You had exclusive:
Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Im gonna say it... oh yes, im gonna say it..... Seaman was a freakin awesome innovative game (deserving of a ds port).
JetSet series,
SNK vs Capcom 2 I believe
Ikaruga
Ofcourse, SHENMUE! (9.7 by IGN),
The 2k sports series that dominated EA's offerings even then,
Sonic Adventures,
DOA 2,
Phantast Star online,
Quake III,
Space channel 5,
RE:Code Veronica! (my #1 RE game, though I admit I have not played 4)
.... and plenty more 1st and 3rd party sweet offerings.
I miss Sega in domination mode, they truly had a innovative mentality (alot like Nintendo).
And no, Sega is not over-rated, they produced some of the greatest games this generation, unfortunately most of them came out on xbox. Panzer Dragon Orta - Best looking game on xbox as far as im concerned. Shenmue 2 - spectacularly deep and involving.
I don't want to hear no Sega hatin. lol
Now im just hoping the Sega enters into a strategic exclusivity pact with Nintendo so I can have Shenmue 3 on my revolution. The ONLY reason I bought a xbox was for Shenmue 2 and Panzer Dragon, Sega better not make me buy a 360 for Shenmue 3.
Rant Over.
Post by: IceCold on December 23, 2005, 07:39:52 AM
Oh yeah, you forgot Soul Calibur and Rayman... poor DreamCast
And they gave us F-Zero GX, so I'm happy
Post by: darknight06 on December 23, 2005, 08:10:21 AM
For some odd reason, a lot of Capcom ports to the system just felt and sometimes even looked really off. The only 2 arcade ports that felt right on there was SF3DI and SSF2X, one of which was an import. Their original work for it was less than satisfactory, either glitch filled or just plain broken in gameplay.
I'm not even gonna get started with the Sonic Adventures, I think we all know where that's going.
I like the system, but it's nowhere close to being perfect.
Post by: stevey on December 23, 2005, 09:33:48 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on December 23, 2005, 09:51:59 PM
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on December 24, 2005, 03:13:24 AM
Post by: darknight06 on December 24, 2005, 06:11:03 AM
Maybe I worded something wrong earlier. Virtua Fighter surely doesn't turn into counter spam, heck at least with VF4Evo it's probably the most balanced fighting game ever made, with only one character that can't compete. DoA is based off of the VF2 engine, however Itagaki simplified it to the point of stupidity.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on December 24, 2005, 06:55:53 AM
Post by: Artimus on December 24, 2005, 07:57:48 AM
Post by: Hocotate on December 24, 2005, 10:08:29 AM
Post by: ShawnSt3r on December 24, 2005, 02:28:03 PM
In all seriousness, I miss Sega because their departure from the console race and Sonys rise to power marked the beginning of the rape of the video game industry. Originality shunned and formulatic mass-appeal games praised. Sega and Nintendo though one-time rivals were still in the same school of video game ideology as far as im concerned. They were not afraid to take chances... and that gave us fun and original games.
Fun and Original, the complete opposite of the x-box lineup both 1st and third party. PS2 while having some quirky and inovative third party games, is dull and formulaic with its first-party offerings.
Anyways, the point is, I loved the Dreamcast for its innovative, fun and quirky games. Which, was practically every 1st party game on the system. Samba De Amigo, Space Channel 5, Jet Grind Radio, Shenmue, Ecco, PSO... etc.
Post by: Arbok on December 24, 2005, 02:37:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot
I've always noticed that people who bought DreamCast loved it. Really, few people who owned one really found anything wrong with it (besides it dying).
Than tally me up as one of the dissapointed. I loved fighters, and Dreamcast will probably go down in history as the best system for fighters, but beyond that... bleh. Maybe a handful of other games worth looking over, and some shooters, and not much else. I should point out, though, that I didn't like Shenmue at all, and most people cite that game as one of the best.
Post by: Mario on December 25, 2005, 02:05:31 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on December 25, 2005, 08:01:12 PM
Post by: stevey on December 26, 2005, 03:58:01 AM
I like sega games, they were just as good as most any nintendo game all but zelda/mario. The one thing that stop them is they kept screwing up with getting people to buy their games. I wish sega come back or that nintendo buy sega and turn sega to a geat 2nd party.
Post by: nickmitch on December 26, 2005, 09:25:05 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 26, 2005, 12:57:51 PM
Anyway, I'm not "returning" to fighting games until they design a fleshed-out blocking/parrying system that actually makes them more than just combo-fests.
Post by: Artimus on December 26, 2005, 06:51:20 PM
Post by: ShawnSt3r on December 27, 2005, 03:25:52 AM
Cosby Rules.
Post by: Amodaus1 on January 07, 2006, 12:56:55 PM
Amen
" SEGA = crap. Sonic = crap. Dreamcast = crap."
I thought dreamcast was ok, but other then that your very so right.
"The Sony controller sucks hard, especially the D-pad"
I don't know about you, but have you played Street fighter 3 3rd strike on X-box, worst d-pad ever in life.
"2D Sonic never destroyed 2D Mario. The speed in Sonic was mostly uncontrolled, you just followed a path the designers set up for you since you couldn't see where you were going, anyway. Mario was a lot more interactive."
Amen again
Post by: KDR_11k on January 07, 2006, 09:44:14 PM
Amen
Indeed but I have seriously seen people call DoA (3 or 4 I think) the greatest fighting game ever, claiming that it's better than even Soul Calibur. I wonder if that comes from playing in some special way that makes DoA have depth ot whether it's XBox FDS (fanboy delusion syndrome).
Post by: Nephilim on January 08, 2006, 04:28:05 PM
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Originally posted by: ArbokQuote
Originally posted by: Sir_Stabbalot
I've always noticed that people who bought DreamCast loved it. Really, few people who owned one really found anything wrong with it (besides it dying).
Than tally me up as one of the dissapointed. I loved fighters, and Dreamcast will probably go down in history as the best system for fighters, but beyond that... bleh. Maybe a handful of other games worth looking over, and some shooters, and not much else. I should point out, though, that I didn't like Shenmue at all, and most people cite that game as one of the best.
seeing that Ps2 has kof 96 to 2003, street fighters series, tons of japanese fighters
I doubt you could really say dreamcast is the greatest fighting platform ever
Post by: jasonditz on January 09, 2006, 11:58:48 AM
Powerstone >> Tekken
Post by: Hocotate on January 17, 2006, 08:06:36 PM
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Originally posted by: Amodaus1
I don't know about you, but have you played Street fighter 3 3rd strike on X-box, worst d-pad ever in life.
I haven't played any 2-D fighters on X-box, but from feeling the D-pad it didn't seem as bad as Sony's. But like I said, I haven't used it on any fighters so I can't really say... At least it seems you can play for more then 30mins without ripping your thumb open >_<
The Playstation controller just sucks hard all around. Often people say I just don't use it enough to get the feel of it.... But I've been playing PSX and PS2 often, and the controller has never felt right. When I first played the Dreamcast and Gamecube the controller was comfortable and easy to use right from the start. They had a zero learning curve for me.
But getting back on topic, I feel the Dreamcast could have grown into something grand if given the chance. There maybe 6-7 games (maybe 9-10 counting imports) I would like on the X-box, and that's throughout the entire life of the system. While there are countless games I love on the DC, and it died before it could really get going.
Post by: The Omen on January 18, 2006, 05:47:09 PM
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SEGA = crap. Sonic = crap. Dreamcast = crap.
So true.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on January 18, 2006, 05:48:46 PM
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Originally posted by: The OmenQuote
SEGA = crap. Sonic = crap. Dreamcast = crap.
So true.
That puts both you two on "tha watch"
Post by: wandering on January 18, 2006, 09:11:47 PM
