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Title: Revolution Output?
Post by: raptorspike on November 22, 2005, 03:41:26 PM
Does anyone know if there has been any news on the output capabilities of the rev? Component Video, Digital Audio, anything?
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 22, 2005, 03:46:57 PM
The Revolution will be able to output high definition JOY and dolby digital SATISFACTION.
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: Famicom on November 22, 2005, 03:50:37 PM
The Rev is confirmed to support 480p, so it has to have component out support. Any DD audio, I dunno, but I doubt it. PLII went over pretty well, so they may just go with that again.
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 22, 2005, 03:56:13 PM
Rev will output at NTSC, PAL, and 480p.  Dunno what else, yet, cuz nintendo didn't say anything else, yet.

Confirmed by me.

If you need more technical information, KnowsNothing can give you the full breakdown.  
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: Mario on November 22, 2005, 10:38:17 PM
It outputs digital images on the screen, while your eyes process that data and send it to your brain.
Title: RE:Revolution Output?
Post by: Strell on November 22, 2005, 11:48:20 PM
IT MAKES GRAPHICS AND MUSICS.
Title: RE:Revolution Output?
Post by: ruby_onix on November 23, 2005, 03:49:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Famicom
The Rev is confirmed to support 480p, so it has to have component out support.

I don't think 480p has actually been confirmed. And considering that Nintendo thought it was too "High Dollar" for the GameCube, I don't know why anyone seems to think it's a safe bet.

It's been confirmed that the Rev cannot do 1080i.
It's been confirmed that the Rev cannot do 720p.
It's been confirmed that the Rev cannot even do 720i.
It's been confirmed that the Rev cannot connect to a computer monitor, and do typical PC resolutions like 1024x768, or even 800x600 (despite earlier "confirmations" saying that it could).

It's been confirmed that (even if the Rev uses holograms) it will be able to connect to a TV somehow, at least in order to let you play overpriced NES ROMs on the "virtual console" system.

This seems to leave the absolute best-case (and IMO unlikely) scenario of the Rev doing 480p, which everyone seems to be clinging to, but Nintendo doesn't want to talk about.

I'd say that 480i, through Stereo-AV or S-Video cables is the most likely.

However, there are even rumors saying that Nintendo will embrace a "wireless" TV hookup with the Revolution, which may have image quality comparable to a freaking RF Switch (which will make those NES games seem all that much more authentic). But hey, it'll be wireless, and wireless is the future. Even if it looks like the NES.
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 23, 2005, 04:00:08 PM
480p has been confirmed SEVERAL times...
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: Artimus on November 23, 2005, 04:24:15 PM
When did they unconfirm PC monitors?
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: Guitar Smasher on November 23, 2005, 04:41:00 PM
"I don't think 480p has actually been confirmed. And considering that Nintendo thought it was too "High Dollar" for the GameCube, I don't know why anyone seems to think it's a safe bet.

It's been confirmed that the Rev cannot do 1080i.
It's been confirmed that the Rev cannot do 720p.
It's been confirmed that the Rev cannot even do 720i.
It's been confirmed that the Rev cannot connect to a computer monitor, and do typical PC resolutions like 1024x768, or even 800x600 (despite earlier "confirmations" saying that it could).

It's been confirmed that (even if the Rev uses holograms) it will be able to connect to a TV somehow, at least in order to let you play overpriced NES ROMs on the "virtual console" system.

This seems to leave the absolute best-case (and IMO unlikely) scenario of the Rev doing 480p, which everyone seems to be clinging to, but Nintendo doesn't want to talk about.

I'd say that 480i, through Stereo-AV or S-Video cables is the most likely.

However, there are even rumors saying that Nintendo will embrace a "wireless" TV hookup with the Revolution, which may have image quality comparable to a freaking RF Switch (which will make those NES games seem all that much more authentic). But hey, it'll be wireless, and wireless is the future. Even if it looks like the NES.
"

Dude, he asked for what it was capable of, NOT what it wasn't capable of.  Now either get the stick out of your *ss or just don't bother replying.  
Title: RE:Revolution Output?
Post by: mjbd on November 23, 2005, 04:59:07 PM
I am not to sure that 480p is a for thing either.  If the system can display 480p, what stops developers from using 780p?  Its not a big deal to me, but to those who have HDTV's, its a bummer.  Nintendo has stated that Rev games will look very similar to the competitors, unless your playing on an HDTV.  There is still alot of improvement that can be seen in 480i.  Heck, I noticed a differance when I switched form AV cables to S-video on my 53" Toshiba.  The most obvious area is when reading text, much sharper.    
Title: RE:Revolution Output?
Post by: ruby_onix on November 23, 2005, 05:37:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
480p has been confirmed SEVERAL times...

It's been mentioned several times, but nobody seems to want to make sure they're clear on the issue. I mean, for the longest time, Reggie and Perrin and Iwata and all the rest kept calling the DS's local connectivity "WiFi".

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Originally posted by: Guitar Smasher
Dude, he asked for what it was capable of, NOT what it wasn't capable of.
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Originally posted by: raptorspike
Does anyone know if there has been any news on the output capabilities of the rev?

It's not my fault if practically all the news we've heard about the Rev has been bad.

I'm just worried that it's driven you all into denial.
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 23, 2005, 05:45:46 PM
Yeah, horrible news like no High Dollar!  DISASTER!  I'm in denial for not caring about such a pointless feature!  Woe is me!
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 23, 2005, 05:48:51 PM
Geez, I already confirmed 480p, OK?

KnowsNothing designed it.
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 23, 2005, 05:49:35 PM
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I'm just worried that it's driven you all into denial.

OH NOES THE CROCODILES WILL GET ME

OLOLOLOLOLO
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 23, 2005, 05:53:43 PM
I heard a rumour in the paper and also read about it on the radio that you can use the Revolution on a 50cm Palsonic TV (if so then I am set!)
Title: RE:Revolution Output?
Post by: mac<censored> on November 24, 2005, 03:41:09 AM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
It's not my fault if practically all the news we've heard about the Rev has been bad.

It certainly is your fault that you've taken a lot of positive things we've heard about the rev and made a (very) crude attempt to cast them as negatives.

As for HD, well, meh.  I've played the 360, and its use of HD is not particularly compelling.
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 24, 2005, 06:55:48 PM
HD is what enables First-Person Hands in Call of Duty 2 to look like cleanly washed pink shiny Barbie Doll-like skin.
Title: RE:Revolution Output?
Post by: The Omen on November 24, 2005, 07:15:25 PM
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HD is what enables First-Person Hands in Call of Duty 2 to look like cleanly washed pink shiny Barbie Doll-like skin.


Call Of Duty looks incredible in HD.

But anyway, I'm fairly certain 480p has been confirmed...why wouldn't it be?  It's already available on the GC.
Title: RE:Revolution Output?
Post by: Don'tHate742 on November 24, 2005, 09:02:57 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
When did they unconfirm PC monitors?


Ya Ruby....what the hell are you talking about?
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: Ian Sane on November 25, 2005, 06:32:40 AM
The PC monitor thing is so old that I wouldn't be surprised if that feature has been cut.  When that was brought up talk of "non-gamers" and such didn't really exist yet.  I figure the Rev concept has changed over the years.  Initially it was probably more of an incremental upgrade and PC monitor support made sense.  Still they haven't officially said the feature is cut.  Though I don't know if they ever would say "we're not doing that anymore".  Wait until they officially annouce what output the Rev is capable of and assume anything not mentioned isn't supported.

I agree though that Nintendo being so vague and quiet on the issue, not even officially confirming the same output support of the Cube, isn't a good sign.  This is routine stuff that shouldn't be hidden from us.  Whenever Nintendo hides routine stuff it usually means they're hiding something that we're not going to like.  Case in point the mysterious "online plans" for the Cube which were all top secret because in reality there were no online plans and they wanted to hide that from us for as long as possible.

If fancy TV outputs are really important to you then the Rev is probably not even an option.  Though personally I would wait to see what games are available first.  My SNES is hooked up with standard A/V cables but it still gets a lot of play.
Title: RE:Revolution Output?
Post by: IceCold on November 25, 2005, 07:38:31 AM
"The PC monitor thing is so old that I wouldn't be surprised if that feature has been cut. When that was brought up talk of "non-gamers" and such didn't really exist yet. I figure the Rev concept has changed over the years."

Wrong.. it was brought up at GDC in March of this year - Iwata was talking about nongamers a long, long time before that. The feature may be cut, but them mentioning it was not so long ago.
Title: RE: Revolution Output?
Post by: Ian Sane on November 25, 2005, 08:06:52 AM
"Wrong.. it was brought up at GDC in March of this year"

Don't remember that but I'll take your word for it.  I was thinking of the very first time it was mentioned which I think was a while ago.  It was one of the first things we ever heard about it.