Post by: Mario on October 17, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
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IGN: Why will the Wi-Fi USB adapter only be available through Nintendo.com and not retailers?
Beth Llewlyn:The feeling initially was that a lot of people were either going to have a wireless router at home or would have the ability to go to a McDonald's and have access in a number of ways, so we decided to make it initially available on Nintendo.com and just see how it goes.
This is absolute CRAP. Sorry Nintendo, but most people I know DON'T have these fancy wireless routers, and sure going to McDonalds is good and all but i'm going to want to play at home online by my computer (I treat my DS more as a home console, and GBA as the portable), and so are a lot of people, making the Dongle only available through online stores is going to seriously cripple the amount of people going online. That 90% online penetration number is being shot to sh*t.
Post by: UncleBob on October 17, 2005, 06:47:17 PM
I... don't like it.
<Ian Rant Mode> Nintendo claims that they want to make it *easy* to go on-line with the DS and then they make us jump through hoops to get the USB adapter by ordering from their website? It'll probably turn into something like the GCN's Component Cables... No one will know how to get the USB adapter, so no one will order it, so Nintendo will just assume that no one wants on-line play and cancel all plans for the Revolution to be online... </Ian>
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 17, 2005, 06:48:20 PM
"Hmm, what? Sorry, I wasn't listening to you, I was listening to my iPod. Hot potato, hot potato, potato, potato, potato. Man, these guys rock!"
"What the hell, I'm going to McDonalds. I go there every single day because I am very large, waaaait, idea forming!"
Post by: Mario on October 17, 2005, 06:49:26 PM
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
My comment from the "... in Wal-Mart" post where I pointed out this:
I... don't like it.
<Ian Rant Mode> Nintendo claims that they want to make it *easy* to go on-line with the DS and then they make us jump through hoops to get the USB adapter by ordering from their website? It'll probably turn into something like the GCN's Component Cables... No one will know how to get the USB adapter, so no one will order it, so Nintendo will just assume that no one wants on-line play and cancel all plans for the Revolution to be online... </Ian>
Oh whoops, I didn't see it in that thread, but uh.. I guess it deserves its own one because its such a big deal!
Post by: mantidor on October 17, 2005, 06:56:33 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 17, 2005, 07:06:51 PM
Post by: IceCold on October 17, 2005, 07:07:31 PM
Post by: Renny on October 17, 2005, 07:12:01 PM
/dons tin foil hat (The bunny ears pick up good waves, while blocking evil ones from Perrin. And, err, Beth in this case.)
Post by: UncleBob on October 17, 2005, 07:26:13 PM
Or not...
Post by: Mario on October 17, 2005, 07:35:57 PM
There is still a month for Nintendo to change their mind.
Post by: thepoga on October 17, 2005, 07:37:19 PM
Beth Llewlyn:The feeling initially was that a lot of people were either going to have a wireless router at home or would have the ability to go to a McDonald's and have access in a number of ways, so we decided to make it initially available on Nintendo.com and just see how it goes."
It's still really stupid that they aren't releasing it from the very beginning in retail. But at least, they're probably going to eventually release it in stores.
Post by: mantidor on October 17, 2005, 07:45:20 PM
Post by: IceCold on October 17, 2005, 07:48:15 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 17, 2005, 08:17:43 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 17, 2005, 08:29:07 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 17, 2005, 08:37:25 PM
Hello, Metroid Prime Hunters. Why am I not playing you this month, I wonder?
Post by: Chris1 on October 17, 2005, 08:49:35 PM
Post by: TMW on October 17, 2005, 08:50:56 PM
Post by: Artimus on October 17, 2005, 09:00:42 PM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
"Well unless Nintendo's first party games start to suffer in regards to single player in favour of online, I don't see the problem."
Hello, Metroid Prime Hunters. Why am I not playing you this month, I wonder?
If there was a lack of quality games I'd feel for you.
You're being a selfish moron. I cannot WAIT for Wi-Fi. Why? I can play Mario Kart with real people! Single palyer is fine but after four MK games there's no reason for me to buy another single player game. But with Wi-Fi that changes.
Single player isn't all a game is about. Not if multiplayer is a large part of it. How would Goldeneye have been if it came out months earlier with no multiplayer? Perfect Dark? The fact is that Wi-Fi isn't simple an add-on to a single player game. If they delay...say...Castlevania for 6 months so you can go on Wi-Fi and trade custom pics, then yes, that would be stupid. But taking a game that is designed at least half with multiplayer as the focus (MP:H has never been playable in single-player form at E3(s) remember) being delayed a few months to actually make it real multiplayer is hardly bad. The fall is jam packed full of games. There is no shortage and there is no advantage to it coming out now. Later, however, there are huge advantages both for players and Nintendo. But ONE person in the world doesn't care about online gaming so therefore it is a bad idea.
PLUS, he said 'suffer'. MP:H single player will not suffer because of wi-fi. Nothing is being removed, only added. You're the one making up random things.
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 17, 2005, 09:14:53 PM
He also said "single player games", not just "single player". You can't tell me delaying a game doesn't constitute some suffering if, like me, you don't benefit from the reason behind the delay.
Yes, I am a selfish moron and I don't deny it. I'm just saying why this news makes me happy, is all. I'm not about to actively campaign for killing off Nintendo Wifi because apparently some other people want it... but hey, if it's happening anyway why shouldn't I express my satisfaction?
And Metroid Prime Hunters has been my single most anticipated DS game since it was first shown.
"But ONE person in the world doesn't care about online gaming so therefore it is a bad idea."
It's not a bad idea... but tell me, if online gaming dies off and that one person gets the games he wants earlier because of it, should he deny himself happiness? I feel for you guys but I'm happy about this, that's all. I'm not going to pretend I'm suffering with you.
Sorry, I'll stop gloating now.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 17, 2005, 09:26:27 PM
I'M DEFINITELY buying many more single-player games cuz I don't want to be distracted by others while in my personalized, immersive home theater setting.
Post by: Artimus on October 17, 2005, 09:36:46 PM
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"after four MK games there's no reason for me to buy another single player game."
I'M DEFINITELY buying many more single-player games cuz I don't want to be distracted by others while in my personalized, immersive home theater setting.
I meant another Mario Kart game. As in I wouldn't buy the game without Wi-Fi because it'd be nothing new single-player wise.
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 17, 2005, 09:40:03 PM
I would, because it would mean new maps, characters and improvements single-player wise. See, if they get rid of online entirely, they HAVE to improve the single-player somehow to make it worth it. You're doing the exact same thing you're accusing me of doing. Just because you don't care about a new Mario Kart with only single-player improvements doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
"I'm not sure how you're gloating. No one is suffering. Wi-Fi isn't going to die off anytime soon. Sorry, it's here to stay."
No, but there's a serious dent in it right now, which means the balance is in favor of single-player, which makes me happy.
"You've said before you'd stop Wi-Fi if you could."
I have? I don't remember, but that was pretty crappy of me if true and I apologize.
Post by: Artimus on October 17, 2005, 09:40:57 PM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
"PLUS, he said 'suffer'. MP:H single player will not suffer because of wi-fi. Nothing is being removed, only added. You're the one making up random things."
He also said "single player games", not just "single player". You can't tell me delaying a game doesn't constitute some suffering if, like me, you don't benefit from the reason behind the delay.
Yes, I am a selfish moron and I don't deny it. I'm just saying why this news makes me happy, is all. I'm not about to actively campaign for killing off Nintendo Wifi because apparently some other people want it... but hey, if it's happening anyway why shouldn't I express my satisfaction?
And Metroid Prime Hunters has been my single most anticipated DS game since it was first shown.
"But ONE person in the world doesn't care about online gaming so therefore it is a bad idea."
It's not a bad idea... but tell me, if online gaming dies off and that one person gets the games he wants earlier because of it, should he deny himself happiness? I feel for you guys but I'm happy about this, that's all. I'm not going to pretend I'm suffering with you.
Sorry, I'll stop gloating now.
I'm not sure how you're gloating. No one is suffering. Wi-Fi isn't going to die off anytime soon. Sorry, it's here to stay.
You've said before you'd stop Wi-Fi if you could. That's like me wishing they'd cancel the entire single player mode in MP:H. I don't get you. We all have anticipated games, they all get delayed (see: Zelda) occasionally. There is still plenty to play and you are still getting the game. Basically you're wishing Nintendo stops this so you can play one particular game right now. MP:H was designed as a multiplayer game, not as a single player game. Nintendo had multiplayer in it from the start, that's ALL they've shown! It sounds more like the game itself isn't what you want it to be.
Post by: Artimus on October 17, 2005, 09:43:00 PM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
"I meant another Mario Kart game. As in I wouldn't buy the game without Wi-Fi because it'd be nothing new single-player wise."
I would, because it would mean new maps, characters and improvements single-player wise. See, if they get rid of online entirely, they HAVE to improve the single-player somehow to make it worth it. You're doing the exact same thing you're accusing me of doing. Just because you don't care about a new Mario Kart with only single-player improvements doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
Not at all. I said I wouldn't buy the game, I didn't say there shouldn't be single player. I'm glad there's both, very glad. I'll play single player. But because of Wi-Fi I'll buy the game, and WE CAN BOTH enjoy it. See? I want as many people to benefit as possible. You say "SCREW EVERYONE ELSE THIS IS MY WORLD!"
At least Ian has some sense of Nintendo's welfare when he complains about them, versus straight forward egotistical garbage.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 17, 2005, 09:43:20 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 17, 2005, 09:52:16 PM
Okay now you're being ridiculous. Do you want me to be miserable over something I'm not miserable about? What in the hell do you want from me? I may be selfish but at least I don't indulge in pretentious crap. I'm saying "too bad for everyone else but this makes me happy". If they fixed this somehow I would say "oh well that sucks for me but I'm glad everyone else is happy".
"I thought that the last one ended with "To Each His Own"?"
Apparently that's not good enough anymore and people want it to be "To Each His Own Unless I Don't Like This So You Better Not Like It Either".
Post by: IceCold on October 17, 2005, 09:57:46 PM
Wait, what?? What? Am I reading this wrong or even with a Wi-Fi connection present, you STILL have to use the USB? I think that it is a misquote or she said something wrong, and I don't think this is true. Please tell me it's not true...
And this thread is becoming another one of those "Paladin vs Online" threads...I thought that the last one ended with "To Each His Own"?
Post by: Renny on October 17, 2005, 10:07:05 PM
Post by: Mario on October 17, 2005, 10:15:47 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Beth Llewlyn: Well, you can still use the DS anywhere there's a Wi-Fi connection. You just would have to set it up through a laptop and use the USB port adapter
Wait, what?? What? Am I reading this wrong or even with a Wi-Fi connection present, you STILL have to use the USB? I think that it is a misquote or she said something wrong, but I don't think this is true. Please tell me it's not true...
No idea, a misquote is likely, but I assume she meant in places that aren't McDonalds that aren't free, where they normally let you hook up a laptop you can then use the Dongle to not have to go through the hassle of all that network stuff.
EDIT: Renny covered that better than me ^.
After all this talking about how easy it will be to use the dongle it's silly to restrict its purchase only to people who know enough about the internet and DS to order it online. Online Wifi is a part of Nintendo now, Nintendo heavily emphasises multiplayer experiences, and Mario Kart is mainly a multiplayer game, online just expands that.
Post by: joeposh on October 17, 2005, 11:20:03 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Beth Llewlyn: Well, you can still use the DS anywhere there's a Wi-Fi connection. You just would have to set it up through a laptop and use the USB port adapter
Wait, what?? What? Am I reading this wrong or even with a Wi-Fi connection present, you STILL have to use the USB? I think that it is a misquote or she said something wrong, and I don't think this is true. Please tell me it's not true...
I think she's just rather ignorant about how Wi-Fi works in most places. She's refering to a pay for access model, which would require a laptop, but places like Starbucks (which she mistakingly referenced as pay for access) have unrestriced free access, so you should be able to play there without any difficulty.
As for the USB adapter being sold exclusively online... this is a HORRIBLE move. The only people who will buy it are hardcore Nintendo loyalists who have been cued into it's existance by interviews such as this, while others will pay crazy prices on E-bay for them and the average consumer will remain in the dark about it's existance (much like the GC BB adaptor and Component cable). Then Nintendo will in turn declare a lack of interest in the product and cease to market it... cutting into the success of their Wi-Fi intiative.
We need to organize a movement to e-mail big sites like IGN and Gamespot over this... as well as contacting Nintendo to let them know our stance on the issue, so hopefully it can be changed. I personally have a wireless router but I want to see the wi-fi intiative really flourish and thus feel that this device should be readily avaliable to the average consumer.
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 17, 2005, 11:41:49 PM
Huh, I thought you had to pay for Starbucks, at least in my area.
Post by: UncleBob on October 18, 2005, 04:32:45 AM
(Personally, I don't care much either way, it likely won't be a game I'll be picking up...)
Post by: joeposh on October 18, 2005, 04:44:52 AM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
"I think she's just rather ignorant about how Wi-Fi works in most places. She's refering to a pay for access model, which would require a laptop, but places like Starbucks (which she mistakingly referenced as pay for access) have unrestriced free access, so you should be able to play there without any difficulty."
Huh, I thought you had to pay for Starbucks, at least in my area.
Really? It's free here... but that may have something to do with the fact that it's a college town. I guess it varies by location.
Post by: Pale on October 18, 2005, 06:19:53 AM
Even if it were just on a GBA cart, you could still authorize your system, then restart it and launch the DS game.
Post by: Artimus on October 18, 2005, 06:47:45 AM
Post by: darknight06 on October 18, 2005, 07:00:48 AM
Post by: UncleBob on October 18, 2005, 07:09:54 AM
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on October 18, 2005, 07:10:33 AM
anyways how hard is it going to be for Nintendo to include a little slip of paper in the DS boxes that gives customers the details of the WiFi Connection? They throw at least 3 or 4 adverts in the boxes anyways, what if the first thing you see when you look to the left of the game is the big blue Nintendo WiFi Connection logo. inside the advert they would mention how to connect to play your favorite games online and include a picture of the USB dongle. right below the pic they could bold the words "ORDER USB ADAPTER ONLINE AT NINTENDO.com"
that was sooo frickin tough
Post by: Hostile Creation on October 18, 2005, 07:30:39 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on October 18, 2005, 07:36:50 AM
It's nice to see that almost everyone here agrees that having the dongle online only is dumb. Now I don't feel like some pessimist that sees what no one else seems to.
Post by: couchmonkey on October 18, 2005, 10:56:29 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 18, 2005, 12:32:31 PM
That's how stupidly bad the progressive-scan situation became.
It can happen to Wi-Fi too. it's teh FUTURE1 OF gamINg!
Post by: 31 Flavas on October 18, 2005, 02:40:15 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 18, 2005, 03:03:08 PM
And guess what? The component cables were in stock again in March, then sold out begining of summer 2005, and it's been on back order since, with more expected in "January 2006."
Frankly, that's unnacceptable.
Post by: 31 Flavas on October 18, 2005, 03:25:04 PM
Post by: Djunknown on October 18, 2005, 04:50:39 PM
I just don't know what to say. It just boggles the mind. If MS did this with Xbox Live when it launched, it would probably be 1 year behind than it is now. EA may have not given in to MS's demands, and SquareEnix wouldn't have touch them with a 10 foot pole.
All I can hope for is that this is a temporary issue. If you remember, 'Cube to GBA cables were available online only. But when they wanted to push connectivity, they put them in stores. When I first saw it at a Gamestop where I was just browsing, no intention of buying anything, I bought it right on the spot, thinking it was some rare opportunity. Granted connectivity flopped, but the fact that no proverbial hoops had to be jumped, you could get your connectivity with simple ease...
May sound reasoning and rational thought prevail...
Post by: Artimus on October 18, 2005, 05:18:50 PM
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 18, 2005, 05:34:48 PM
I was planning on getting the Dongle when it was released but now its just too much hassle.
Also what does ths mean for places with free Wi-fi acess like some colleges?
Post by: IceCold on October 18, 2005, 05:56:52 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 18, 2005, 06:32:08 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
The DS should be able to work in those areas free.
Or not...a quote from that same interview states that it will work as long as there is a laptop with the dongle connected in the WiFi area.
Post by: Mario on October 18, 2005, 06:34:04 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 18, 2005, 06:55:40 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 19, 2005, 01:56:04 AM
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I was planning on getting the Dongle when it was released but now its just too much hassle.
That's just sad.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 19, 2005, 03:41:40 AM
Post by: Mario on October 19, 2005, 04:01:13 AM
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 19, 2005, 04:37:20 AM
Theres really no point in waiting days to have the Dongle shipped, its much more of an impulse buy IMO
Post by: Mario on October 19, 2005, 07:03:53 AM
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The Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector will be sold exclusively at select Canadian retailers and on Nintendo.com.
There is hope after all! "Selected" retailers is good enough for me. Though I don't live in Canada...
Post by: Ian Sane on October 19, 2005, 07:12:41 AM
Post by: trip1eX on October 19, 2005, 07:17:45 AM
Anyway that dongle is going to be a ripoff.
A wireless router is $20 with a rebate and the Best Buys and Circuit Cities and CompUSAs have these deals every week.
that USB dongle dealio is going to be at least $20.
So cry me a river. Do yourself a favor and pickup a wirless router.
Post by: Artimus on October 19, 2005, 08:24:11 AM
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Originally posted by: trip1eX
A wireless router is $20 with a rebate and the Best Buys and Circuit Cities and CompUSAs have these deals every week.
that USB dongle dealio is going to be at least $20.
So cry me a river. Do yourself a favor and pickup a wirless router.
Ok
I'll put it right next to my current wireless router that I can't use 8 months of the year because my dorm has wireless routers blocked.
Post by: trip1eX on October 19, 2005, 09:49:15 AM
I think you mean router in general. Anyway you can get a USB thing online. I'm not sure why people feel the need to biatch.
Be glad you can get one.tho I wonder if you would still have trouble with the USB thingie.
The real bitching gripe here is that you can't go to any wi-fi spot and use the DS. What's up with that?
Post by: Artimus on October 19, 2005, 11:16:02 AM
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Originally posted by: trip1eX
Well I'm not sure how you can block a wireless router in a dorm room
Anyway you can get a USB thing online. I'm not sure why people feel the need to biatch.
tho I wonder if you would still have trouble with the USB thingie.
The real bitching gripe here is that you can't go to any wi-fi spot and use the DS. What's up with that?
You're allowed to use a router to run two computers, but if you get a wireless router they turn your net off and you're in big doo-doo. Silly, but oh well.
I suspect Nintendo will improve the Wi-Fi as it goes along. This is a new thing for them, give it time.
Post by: 31 Flavas on October 19, 2005, 12:49:20 PM
QuoteSo what they train your floor RA to scan for wireless signals? Comon, how can they tell if you don't broadcast your SSID. (and name it something like... THIS_SIGNAL_COMES_FROM_ROOM_12345)
Originally posted by: Artimus
You're allowed to use a router to run two computers, but if you get a wireless router they turn your net off and you're in big doo-doo. Silly, but oh well.
Post by: Artimus on October 19, 2005, 01:42:10 PM
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Originally posted by: 31 FlavasQuoteSo what they train your floor RA to scan for wireless signals? Comon, how can they tell if you don't broadcast your SSID. (and name it something like... THIS_SIGNAL_COMES_FROM_ROOM_12345)
Originally posted by: Artimus
You're allowed to use a router to run two computers, but if you get a wireless router they turn your net off and you're in big doo-doo. Silly, but oh well.
Because the net is setup so as to block routers. If you need one they turn it on for a certain whatever. Trust me, I already tried it last year.
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 19, 2005, 01:48:13 PM
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Theres really no point in waiting days to have the Dongle shipped, its much more of an impulse buy IMO
Hilarious, you're saying it's worse to wait a few days then to not have it at all.
Which implies that either you don't really care about the Wi-Fi connection, in which case this isn't really a problem, or you have other more convenient ways of getting online, in which case this is still not a problem.
So....not a problem!
Post by: Ian Sane on October 19, 2005, 02:25:19 PM
Here's the big question: what advantage does Nintendo have in limiting the dongle to Nintendo.com? How is this a GOOD decision? I can't see any pros to this decision at all yet I can see some major cons. Meanwhile having the dongle available in stores has no cons that I can think of as it also allows for it to be sold through Nintendo.com. We've got one option with some huge cons and another option that gives us the exact same benefits as the first and has NO cons.
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 19, 2005, 02:28:29 PM
I just felt like picking on Avinash_Tyagi for being lazy and having no argument.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 19, 2005, 02:55:04 PM
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Originally posted by: KnowsNothingQuote
Theres really no point in waiting days to have the Dongle shipped, its much more of an impulse buy IMO
Hilarious, you're saying it's worse to wait a few days then to not have it at all.
Which implies that either you don't really care about the Wi-Fi connection, in which case this isn't really a problem, or you have other more convenient ways of getting online, in which case this is still not a problem.
So....not a problem!
Yes and no, I do have other ways of getting online, but not more convenient ways, I can always use it at the college, but in order to use it at home I'd either have to wait for the dongle or get a cheap router which is more expensive than the dongle, but has the benefit of being there when I want it.
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Just so you know, I think this is a retarded move as well, but we've got enough people saying that I just felt like picking on Avinash_Tyagi for being lazy and having no argument.
I am lazy, but its more than that, why wait a few days when I could just head down to the store and grab a cheap wi-fi router, but I'd rather not have to do that because its a bit more expensive, but I like the ability to just grab it while i'm out at the store.
Really it comes down to the fact that I want it my way, I want to pay less money but also have the convenience of just driving to the store and buying it.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 19, 2005, 03:24:26 PM
Post by: UncleBob on October 19, 2005, 05:50:35 PM
Post by: Renny on October 19, 2005, 08:22:56 PM
The only 'con' that matters is the one Wayport is pulling on Nintendo. It's worth reiterating that Nintendo absolutely needs to get their WiFi off the ground running this holiday season. Maybe if they blow through them on the web store prodution will be ramped up and they'll show up on shelves quick. Maybe Wayport won't allow that. /i am no android
Post by: trip1eX on October 19, 2005, 09:09:26 PM
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Originally posted by: ArtimusQuote
Originally posted by: 31 FlavasQuoteSo what they train your floor RA to scan for wireless signals? Comon, how can they tell if you don't broadcast your SSID. (and name it something like... THIS_SIGNAL_COMES_FROM_ROOM_12345)
Originally posted by: Artimus
You're allowed to use a router to run two computers, but if you get a wireless router they turn your net off and you're in big doo-doo. Silly, but oh well.
Because the net is setup so as to block routers. If you need one they turn it on for a certain whatever. Trust me, I already tried it last year.
Many wireless routers are also wired routers. Sounds like your problem was something else. Either too many were sharing your router and they go pissed or you didn't ask them to open ports.
The reason for no wireless maybe is they don't want outsiders piggybacking on their network.
They'd have to trust dormers to secure it. And they'd rather not do that.
Post by: trip1eX on October 19, 2005, 09:16:20 PM
Also I think you don't need this specific Nintendo product to make your DS work with your pc.
Post by: Infil on October 19, 2005, 09:26:50 PM
This is a real plus for people who want to play online during university lectures, as they can just tap into the wireless network the university has running. Not that I would do that.
Post by: couchmonkey on October 20, 2005, 06:23:39 AM
Heck, even I think that Nintendo's solution sounds simpler...I'm probably wrong because I've never tried to install a wireless router, but simply plugging in a USB stick and installing some software sounds very easy.
Post by: darknight06 on October 20, 2005, 07:35:39 AM
Post by: vudu on October 20, 2005, 09:02:43 AM
QuoteMinimizes inventory levels, decreases time spent to manage inventory levels, eases supply-chain management, frees up more cash to cover short-term liabilities. The benefits might not be obvious to the end user, but from a business perspective it might make a lot of sense.
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Here's the big question: what advantage does Nintendo have in limiting the dongle to Nintendo.com? How is this a GOOD decision? I can't see any pros to this decision at all yet I can see some major cons.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 20, 2005, 11:30:54 AM
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Ian, I agree. FutureShop is the best for it, PLUS they have free online shipping!Quote
Originally posted by: trip1eX
A wireless router is $20 with a rebate and the Best Buys and Circuit Cities and CompUSAs have these deals every week.
that USB dongle dealio is going to be at least $20.
So cry me a river. Do yourself a favor and pickup a wirless router.
Ok
I'll put it right next to my current wireless router that I can't use 8 months of the year because my dorm has wireless routers blocked.
Erm... If you're not allowed to have wireless routers, then why would they let you have the USB thing? After all, it's little more then a wireless acess point...
Post by: Artimus on October 20, 2005, 12:14:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Ian, I agree. FutureShop is the best for it, PLUS they have free online shipping!Quote
Originally posted by: trip1eX
A wireless router is $20 with a rebate and the Best Buys and Circuit Cities and CompUSAs have these deals every week.
that USB dongle dealio is going to be at least $20.
So cry me a river. Do yourself a favor and pickup a wirless router.
Ok
I'll put it right next to my current wireless router that I can't use 8 months of the year because my dorm has wireless routers blocked.
Erm... If you're not allowed to have wireless routers, then why would they let you have the USB thing? After all, it's little more then a wireless acess point...
Because it's not for the internet. Same reason I'm allowed to use bluetooth.
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on October 20, 2005, 12:46:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Originally posted by: Artimus
Ian, I agree. FutureShop is the best for it, PLUS they have free online shipping!Quote
Originally posted by: trip1eX
A wireless router is $20 with a rebate and the Best Buys and Circuit Cities and CompUSAs have these deals every week.
that USB dongle dealio is going to be at least $20.
So cry me a river. Do yourself a favor and pickup a wirless router.
Ok
I'll put it right next to my current wireless router that I can't use 8 months of the year because my dorm has wireless routers blocked.
Erm... If you're not allowed to have wireless routers, then why would they let you have the USB thing? After all, it's little more then a wireless acess point...
Because it's not for the internet. Same reason I'm allowed to use bluetooth.
I'm sorry, I don't really understand... I mean, right now the adapter seems to be a Wi-Fi access point. Really, it's still a wireless internet connection. I'd ask the tech guys there if it would be allowed before ordering anything.
