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Title: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 13, 2005, 07:01:53 AM
Apple launches video iPod and new iMacs
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: stevey on October 13, 2005, 07:11:58 AM
I hope so, because all of the psp software coming out and in stores is imd video. that is if the ipod dosen't turn into the ibrick. lol      
Title: RE:Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Toruresu on October 13, 2005, 07:27:29 AM
Well, I've seen like 3 PSP users with their PSPs in public and they were playing Snes games.  
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Post by: Strell on October 13, 2005, 08:59:12 AM
No, the PSP is the PSP's doom.
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Post by: Ian Sane on October 13, 2005, 09:09:24 AM
The PSP is doomed anyway.  At least it is as a game system or as a competitor to the DS.  Sony has killed the thing's momentum by rather blantantly treating it as a sh!tty proprietary movie player first, videogame system second.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 13, 2005, 11:45:49 AM
And by having no new games for months now. Did any notable PSP game come out recently? Even the DS wasn't in a slump this long.
Title: RE:Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 13, 2005, 11:47:26 AM
I think the only notable game on the horizon is another GTA game.
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: vudu on October 13, 2005, 12:41:31 PM
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Did any notable PSP game come out recently?
I know Japan got Winning Eleven 9 for PSP.  It's done pretty well (157,000 copies in 4 weeks).  I think that's it for Japan.  Nothing comes to mind when I think of US releases.  Burnout Legends--that's about it.  
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 13, 2005, 03:34:58 PM
How could anyone think it could even compare, I mean holy crap, the 30GB Video iPod costs just a bit more than a 2GB memory stick for the PSP.
Title: RE:Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 13, 2005, 03:53:16 PM
I think Apple is being alittle too desperate for these Ipod models. Actually another factor of the PSP's demise can be the PS2 and PS3 just look at how back in E3 Sony left their handheld ripe and open to compeditor attack (Nintendo) infavor of showing off PS2 games and PS3 showcase and Nintendo just had a TKO in the handheld presentation. And it still shows it, Sony screwed themselves ultimately with teptid support and killer apps being duds. And if Nintendo Wi-Fi connection gathers a lot of steam with more titles, PSP is going to meet its demise.  
Title: RE:Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: nickmitch on October 13, 2005, 04:04:32 PM
The only way I see this not hurting the PSP is if the darn thing doesn't play music w/o the moving pictures, which would be too funny to actually happen and is also completely illogical.
But the thing about GTA:LCS is that I hear people saying that it'll be the best game ever and will put the PSP ahead of the DS, but I'll bet that 90% of people who want it already have a PSP.
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Post by: mT3 on October 13, 2005, 05:34:37 PM
i just cant see myself playing a game like gta on a psp...u need a big screen with comfortable controls.
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Post by: Djunknown on October 13, 2005, 05:50:53 PM
[on tangent] The GTA LC does boast multiplayer, a franchise first. Make it on-line play, and that should push some hardware.
Capcom's got a series of re-makes in the pipeline that they showed at TGS. There's the Mega man 1 re-make with really big heads, coupled with a level editor. There's the Mega Man X remake with what seems to be 3d polys in 2d. And finally there's the Ghouls 'n Ghosts for the masochistic. That should get some hard-core gamers  in line.
If Sony doesn't show anything really new with games by e3 2k6, one could chalk up this system for just a piracy-inclined machine. [/off tangent]

On topic, is there really a market for an iTunes for videos? Sounds like more of a counter measure for those who download their favorite shows and music videos via the usual 'dubious' methods...

Can Apple repeat the whole iPod craze with this device?  
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Post by: Artimus on October 13, 2005, 06:31:55 PM
There is no need to repeat anything. This is NOT  new video centered iPod. It's just a new iPod that has a new feature. It's still focused on music. It isn't a media player, it's a music player. It's not the iPod Video, it's just an iPod that plays video. There's a big difference.
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Post by: ThePerm on October 13, 2005, 06:52:49 PM
well um.....you can  download desperate  housewives episodes  for  1.99

desperate  housewives  =  killerapp
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Nile Boogie on October 13, 2005, 07:00:02 PM
Like I said in the other fourm downloading Lost when I miss a episode sold me.  
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 13, 2005, 09:25:17 PM
GTA isn't fun in multiplayer. The first two games had that mode and it sucked big time.

On topic, is there really a market for an iTunes for videos? Sounds like more of a counter measure for those who download their favorite shows and music videos via the usual 'dubious' methods...

That's what they said when iTunes launched for music.
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: vudu on October 14, 2005, 08:34:12 AM
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The GTA LC does boast multiplayer, a franchise first. Make it on-line play, and that should push some hardware.
It's Wi-Fi only.  No online multiplayer.
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GTA isn't fun in multiplayer.
It's also limited to six people at a time.  That's a very small number of players for such a big city.  If there's no radar you could wander around for ten minutes without finding another player.
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: KDR_11k on October 14, 2005, 08:56:26 AM
There was a helper to find the others in GTA 1 and 2, an arrow pointing in their direction. However, it still took minutes to find them and only seconds until there was only one survivor. Most of the time was spent finding a car to get to them and then driving to them. Since combat in the GTA games isn't particularly sophisticated and definitely weaker than, say, Quake and just causing random havoc for points is boring after five minutes that's not an engaging game. Sure, you might find a few moments that are absolutely memorable but the rest of the match sucks so bad you won't try it again.
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Post by: vudu on October 14, 2005, 09:14:51 AM
Your points are valid, but they're also a bit flawed.  The multiplayer add-ons for past GTA games are all user-created mods.  While I have no proof to back this up, I certainly hope that Rockstar could come up with something better in terms of multiplayer.  If not, they I don't see it catching on anytime soon.
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Post by: Renny on October 14, 2005, 09:20:17 AM
Well they've created... Deathmatch. And Capture the Limo. Some other bog-standard MP modes. This will still sell systems. Hopefully for the last time.
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Post by: Djunknown on October 14, 2005, 05:46:55 PM
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well um.....you can download desperate housewives episodes for 1.99


Interesting. What would be cheaper in the long run? A boxed set of  [insert TV show] or download episodes via iTunes? I've been out of the TV loop, so I don't know how many episodes make up an average season. iTunes could be a cheap, no-frills solution to boxed sets with all the extras. I'm safely assuming there won't be any commericals when you download them to your video iPod....
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Post by: BigJim on October 14, 2005, 11:03:12 PM
Season 1 of DH had 23 episodes. That comes out to about $45 to download them all. No commercials. The DVD set goes for $39 on Amazon.

So there's a small premium in the end, but you get the immediacy of downloading it the next day after it airs (for the current season). Good if you miss an episode. But the 320x240 resolution doesn't get me too excited. I suspect Apple will some day release a "real" Video-Pod when the infrastructure is in place to download mass movies.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 14, 2005, 11:14:24 PM
vudu: You mean DMA put user mods into their games out of the box? (I'm talking about GTA 1 and 2, not 3/VC/SA)
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 15, 2005, 03:53:28 AM
Also with the Ipod you could download from some...unauthorized sources...P2P, bit torrent, etc., for free and avoid all the charges, and since it has a 30 or 60 GB HD its far better than the PSP at storing large amounts of video.
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Post by: Arbok on October 15, 2005, 06:31:27 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
vudu: You mean DMA put user mods into their games out of the box? (I'm talking about GTA 1 and 2, not 3/VC/SA)


Going from Vudu's comments, I don't think he was aware that there were GTA games before 3

...not that they were noteworthy before that point, though.
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Artimus on October 15, 2005, 08:04:19 AM
You can purchase whole seasons of the shows for $35. I think it's silly if you intend to buy the DVDs.
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on October 15, 2005, 08:10:54 AM
Why not just buy the DVD set and then transfer the episodes to your Ipod, that way you can take your DVD collection on the road.
Title: RE: Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on October 15, 2005, 08:33:05 AM
i dont get the whole color screen thing for ipods... I never see people looking at their ipod's screen. People just clip it on their belt and walk. who wants a color screen (which will further drain the battery) to look at photos/album art? Maybe if it were an ipod/digital camera

the movie playback is ok.. novelty at best.  
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Post by: Renny on October 15, 2005, 08:53:55 AM
iPod must match the hipness of phones with color screens. You're right, at this point a color GUI isn't particularly useful, but it's a nice, big bullet point on the spec sheet and that's all Apple needs to hawk another unit to their insatiable fan base.

Real music fans own(ed) a Karma.
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Post by: nickmitch on October 15, 2005, 09:34:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Stimutacs Addict
Maybe if it were an ipod/digital camera


That would be this.
Title: RE:Ipod video...the PSP's doom?
Post by: vudu on October 17, 2005, 09:15:19 AM
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Originally posted by: Arbok
Going from Vudu's comments, I don't think he was aware that there were GTA games before 3
For the record, I played and beat the original GTA and got about halfway through GTA2 before getting bored.  Never played the one set in London.

I forgot there was multiplayer in the first two games.  I never touched it.