Post by: ShyGuy on September 30, 2005, 08:45:27 AM
Let's start with RE4
Gamecube setup:
Analog: movement
A: action
B: run
L: knife toggle
R: firearm toggle
X: ashley orders
Y: Menu
Z: Map
C stick: camera tilt
start: pause
Rev setup
Analog: movement
gyro: aim
d-pad: camera tilt
A: action
B: firearm toggle
X: ashley orders
Y: Menu
Select: Map
start pause
Z1: run
Z2: knife toggle
And that's with out really changing the default controls
Ideally, the control scheme could be customized even more for the revolution.
I'll do some more games later, feel free to chime in.
Post by: Ian Sane on September 30, 2005, 08:47:44 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on September 30, 2005, 08:52:03 AM
That pic shows them a X & Y, the one Iwata was holding had them labeled as X & Y
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 30, 2005, 08:52:09 AM
He must have meant the smaller a and b buttons.
Edit: Yeah, or that.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 30, 2005, 09:27:29 AM
Luigi's Mansion (in hopes of a sequel!)
Analog: Movement
Z1: Vacuum
Z2: Vacuum Element
Motion Sensing: Luigi rotation
A: Check things/Open Doors
B: Flashlight
X (b): Game Boy Horror
Y (a): Map
Select: Inventory List
Fits perfectly...
Post by: Pale on September 30, 2005, 09:35:59 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 30, 2005, 09:38:39 AM
Post by: Pale on September 30, 2005, 09:43:18 AM
My concern may come solely from misjudging the size of the rev controller, but with the size I am picturing in my mind, it doesn't seem like a short enough distance to slide your thumb to the lower buttons.
Don't get me wrong, i think the buttons down there are cool. They will work really well for non action buttons in games designed to be played one handed... you could slide your other hand up there to bring up the menu, etc. I don't think they were designed with the nunchuck attachment in mind... know what I mean?
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 30, 2005, 09:46:43 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 30, 2005, 10:02:38 AM
We've discussed this a lot in that talkback thead. I say for this thread we just let people come up with their ideas and leave the layout of the controller itself to the other thread.
Though I have to ask exactly what you would do to rotate Luigi with the remote. What sort of movement are we talking about? That's something to take into consideration regarding motion control. It has to be more specific then "just use the remote".
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 30, 2005, 10:10:48 AM
Edit: Of course, there would be a "dead center" where there is no movement what-so-ever...
Post by: Pale on September 30, 2005, 10:18:17 AM
I was gonna write this up for the PGC contest but just don't have the time right now to put the required effort into it....
But I want a god game... and for the sake of this thread, we'll call it a Doshin sequel.
You play in the first person looking straight down on your world. Holding the remote in one hand, that acts as your hand... aka, the hand of god.
B-Tightens grip (makes fist) in an analog sort of way. By that I mean, you hold it down and the hand begins to clench its fist, if you let up early, the fist may only be partially clenched.
A-Does the exact opposite in order to loosen your grip.
You then just use the controller as a true 3d mouse. Moving up and down and left and right does the same thing on the screen. Moving towards the screen brings the hand closer to the planet's surface... moving away brings it back up in the air.
I think this could open up a multitude of interesting game play situations, from dropping villagers into ponds, to defeating demons that attack your world.
Edit: Well damn, after re-reading that it doesn't really fit into this thread cause its a whole new game.. but whatever.. i had to come up with something to fight off my own attempted hijacking.
Post by: ThePerm on September 30, 2005, 10:30:16 AM
http://theperm.tetrametrics.com/Images/rev/range.gif
and i also beleive the controller is smaller then the remote in my hand.
a naked picture of me!!!
Post by: Artimus on September 30, 2005, 10:33:40 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2005, 10:45:54 AM
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TETRIS REVOLUTIONS
Example neutral position: Hold remote vertically.
Rotate piece: Tilt/twist remote clockwise or counter-clockwise.
Move piece left/right: Move remote horizontally left/right.
Quick drop: A-button.
ARKANOID REVOLUTIONS
Hold remote horizontally.
Move slider: Move remote horizontally left/right.
SPLINTER CELL/Prince of Persia/Ghost Recon/DOA4 REVOLUTIONS
Strike one's forhead repeatedly with remote till vision achieves motion-blur.
Post by: ThePerm on September 30, 2005, 10:55:36 AM
also heres a estimated version of exactly how big the controller is....
http://theperm.tetrametrics.com/Images/rev/Picture%2011.jpg
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 30, 2005, 01:05:36 PM
Cuz many people felt OMG HUGER THAN 360.
Post by: ShyGuy on September 30, 2005, 01:19:44 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on September 30, 2005, 02:24:36 PM
Post by: Artimus on September 30, 2005, 02:45:09 PM
The popular game I'm think of is Super Mario Bros.:
Movement - d-pad
Jump - A
Fire/Run - B
If you really try it actually makes sense.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 30, 2005, 10:36:22 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 30, 2005, 11:35:39 PM
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Post by: blackfootsteps on October 01, 2005, 12:09:06 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
The remote will actually make things like puzzle games insanely fun. You'll be moving your hand everywhere requiring quick skill beyond the usual button timing.
The popular game I'm think of is:
Meteos!
Use the remote to slide tiles (the B trigger acts as if the stylus is on the screen.)
Or they could just release a GBA expansion with more planets.
Simple, yet addictively brilliant.
Post by: Griffin on October 01, 2005, 03:04:09 AM
B&W would translate pretty much perfectly to the Rev. You wouldn't even need the nunchuck.
Post by: ShyGuy on October 01, 2005, 06:14:30 AM
Super Mario Sunshine
Gamecube setup:
Analog: movement/fludd aim
A: jump/swim
B: talk/pickup/dive/Yoshi eat
L: center camera
R: Fludd/Yoshi Spray
X: change nozzle/dismount yoshi
Y: over the shoulder camera
Z: guide book
C stick: camera rotate and zoom
start: pause
Rev setup:
Analog: movement
gyro: camera/fludd aim
d-pad: toggle camera movement
A: jump/swim
B: Fludd/Yoshi Spray
b/X: talk/pickup/dive/Yoshi eat
a/Y: change nozzle/dismount yoshi
select: guide book
start: pause
Z1: over the shoulder camera
Z2: center camera
This one was harder, and is still contingent on the B button on the rev controller being analog. Anyone know if it is or not? I don't think you need the 256 degrees of pressure of the gamecube triggers. just enough to change two degrees of Fludd water flow.
Using the d-pad as toggle for moving the camera keeps the view from getting off base if you move your hand.
Post by: wandering on October 01, 2005, 06:59:20 AM
N64 setup:
analogue: move, swim, perform some context sensitive actions in conjunction with a.
Z: lock-on
A: context-sensitive
B: draw/use sword
R: raise sheild
c-buttons: draw items, call navi, switch camera, play ocarina
REV setup:
The nunchaku attachment controls Link:
Analog: moves, swims
L1: performs context sensitive actions
L2: lock onto enemies
The remote controls what Link is holding:
A: draw your sword
B: raise your shield
d-pad: select other items
Gyro: control items. (flick to throw a deku seed, swing to swing your sword, move the controller around to look around with a lantern in dark places, etc.) and perform some context sensitive actions in conjunction with L1.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on October 01, 2005, 08:52:49 AM
I would probably s**t my pants if it was like that. Zelda has always been about the adventure with fighting pretty damn fun but not the main attraction. With this setup you get both the Adventure and the Action in full force. I'd love it if you could control the swords movements precisely. As in you stab forward to stab forward or you slice to the side to hit an enemy approaching that you didn't lock-on to.
Imagine charging into battle on horse and raising your sword literally.
I wonder what "special" Link will have in the REV version...
Post by: ThePerm on October 01, 2005, 11:53:38 AM
Post by: Artimus on October 01, 2005, 12:21:54 PM
Post by: wandering on October 01, 2005, 12:42:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Don't Hate
That's a damn good control setup for Zelda
Um, thanks
Post by: nickmitch on October 02, 2005, 03:58:42 AM
