Post by: ThePerm on September 24, 2005, 08:43:45 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 24, 2005, 09:13:40 PM
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Post by: nickmitch on September 25, 2005, 07:41:01 AM
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"I don't believe hardware specs need to improve anymore. We have the equipment to paint colorfully on a white canvas," explained Iwatani.
And now we have Pac-Pix..
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 25, 2005, 07:45:18 AM
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Post by: KnowsNothing on September 25, 2005, 05:40:51 PM
Just a hunch.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on September 25, 2005, 05:53:30 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 25, 2005, 06:59:27 PM
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Post by: Dasmos on September 25, 2005, 10:43:39 PM
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 26, 2005, 04:52:38 PM
My opinion is the same now as it was then. Zelda isn't about pulling levers, it's about having an adventure. If Nintendo focuses too much on having us grab stuff they're going to lose focus on what makes Zelda Zelda.
This interview is pretty much the point where I started to get really worried that Nintendo's vision for the Revolution would differ greatly from what I actually wanted out of a console.
Post by: mantidor on September 26, 2005, 05:05:13 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 26, 2005, 07:17:24 PM
Only Ian can take a simple, innocent quote and blow it completely out of proportion... =| As mantidor said, it's about the little things, hardly The Legend of Zelda: Pulling Levers...
Post by: King of Twitch on September 26, 2005, 07:49:43 PM
Post by: trip1eX on September 26, 2005, 08:40:09 PM
In his mind and Nintendo's mind you're the hero. So you should do the action with the controller.
There's a degree of interactivity he wants to maintain because that it what makes the videogame medium unique.
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 26, 2005, 08:52:25 PM
Just to get it out of the way, before somebody else comments on the inappropriateness of that sentence with the colon removed.
Once again Ian, your particular brand of logic leaves me befuddled. I've never seen anybody make a similar leap in intuition before. Is that how you see your life, do you complain every time you open a door, do you wish there was a context sensitive button you could press instead so your life wouldn't be about opening doors?
Post by: Artimus on September 26, 2005, 09:10:24 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 26, 2005, 09:18:23 PM
Well they do have those handicap doors in public buildings.
I get what some of you mean by "the little things". If that's all it is then it should be fine. To me it's not just the lever comment but the whole basic feel of the interview in regards to interactivity. Miyamoto's comments have this feel to them like he feels that having a button press for pulling a lever really hurts the game somehow. Like actually pulling the lever is going to improve Zelda tenfold when it's really just a quirky idea that would be cool the first time you did it and incredibly tedious after a whole dungeon of moving your arm around to open every door.
I feel Nintendo's whole non-gamer approach with the Rev is them taking something very minor and blowing it out of proportion (I realize the irony of me saying that) like pushing buttons is such a drag and is the sole reason why non-gamers currently don't play games. So that blowing things out of proportion translates a bit to here. No one had ever played Zelda and thought to themselves "man this game would be way better if I could pull that lever myself". It's a really odd thing to single out in an interview like that so that's why I fear that Miyamoto is going to focus too much on it.
Plus having to pull EVERY lever in a game as long as Zelda is going to be really physically tiring. I don't want Nintendo retooling Zelda too much for that sort of unneeded change. Games that require that kind of physical movement cannot be epics. The very idea of including something clashes with Zelda's design. Pulling levers fits more with pick-up-and-play games. You can't have an epic Zelda game where you have to move your arms all over the place the whole time. Well you can but it would be tedious.
Post by: trip1eX on September 26, 2005, 09:28:09 PM
This isn't some new vision they've come up with because of the Revolution controller.
The controller will perhaps enhance this vision, but it will not change it.
That quote is merely an example of 'doing' vs. 'watching'.
Another example in Wind Waker is just like the lever example. You pressed a button to grab a block and then used the controller to move the block instead of just pressing a button to move a block. It's the same example as the lever.
It's not the central focus of Wind Waker but these are the subtle gameplay mechanics Nintendo seems to be famous for. IT's that extra layer of interactivity which makes you feel more like you are doing the task instead of watching it being done. Interactive vs passive. Videogame vs movie.
Post by: King of Twitch on September 26, 2005, 09:28:29 PM
Nintendo Revolution: GET FIT OR GET OUT.
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 26, 2005, 09:56:19 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on September 26, 2005, 10:38:56 PM
