Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 21, 2005, 02:39:35 PM
can't confirm if it is real or not, it is dated to be released next month - 10/14/2005
take with a grain of salt for now... to be proven one way or another in 3 weeks
Full Interview HERE
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GameSpy: In the few past interviews that you have done you spoke very boldly about graphical realism to not be the only flag we reach for in terms of game development. Has this changed or do you have the same views now as you did at Rareware?
Martin Hollis: No I definitely don’t think this has changed in the least. I really wanted at least for this title for the graphics to be 100% photo realistic with completely realistic physics…no exaggerations. But in the end you know I really hope that once we attain that much wanted level of realism we can then break it down and really start to be creative without always trying to be the first developer to reach 100% photo realism.
GameSpy: Do you think that Guts N’ Glory has achieved this goal and do you think you are the first to do it and reach this level?
Martin Hollis: That’s really hard to say because I haven’t seen every single developers titles to judge that. But I can say that EA’s Fight Night Round 3 is about a half generation behind our title in terms of strictly physical realism.
GameSpy: That’s a pretty bold statement. Do you think the finished product will support that statement?
Martin Hollis: Oh, most definitely even more so in the finished version. Which we are hoping to release in January 2007. Given the technical abilities of the Nintendo console which I will not go into at this time are more than capable of achieving this.
GameSpy: Everyone is drooling after speculation and rumor after rumor about the Revolution. But now that we know about the controller can you clarify what some of its other controller features are or on any technical aspects of the system, or at the very least can you squash any rumors.
Martin Hollis: Right now I cannot comment on anything about Nintendo’s next home console or its controller features that haven‘t been announced yet. I am bound by NDA as are a lot of others but I will say this. If Sony and Microsoft both want to stay in this race they really need to differentiate themselves from one another or eventually one of them is bound to go away. As for the controller features that Nintendo has announced they all will be incorporated in some way or fashion. Our goal was for it to not be anything comparable to a gimmick but to make these features truly a next-generation way of playing and interacting with the game.
GameSpy: Lets talk about the controller features that have been announced thus far. What are your thoughts on them and how will they “Revolutionize” gaming?
Martin Hollis: A lot of people (mostly in the press) seem to not completely understand the true potential of this controller. It is capable of everything that the GameCube controller is capable of and much more. It will Revolutionize gaming in the sense that not only is it going to revolutionize the way we play games and really push the industry forward as a whole. But also gives the user the ability to choose how they want to control games or characters. Now, keep in mind that this is all word of mouth and you didn’t hear this from me. But the word is that you may be able to view most if not all past Nintendo games on the virtual console in true next-generation graphics and sound…as well as online. You may also be able to implement many different art styles into old games. As well as import and export in-game models and game engines. I have also heard that Nintendo may be working on a way to mesh certain source codes so you can mix and match all kinds of different things. But of course this is just speculation and word of mouth. So I won’t make any promises to these features just be prepared to expect the unexpected.
GameSpy: There are many rumors that Nintendo has been working on a new way to render amazingly lifelike graphics without actually rendering anything using new graphics technology. Are there any truth to any of these rumors and what can we look forward to?
Martin Hollis: Well…(smiles) I really can’t go too much into any of that kind of stuff. Nintendo has almost been overkill about not letting any screenshots or trailers leaked to the press. But as to what you are referring to like NURBS or depth-mapped cube maps or the spec of the technology, Nintendo will make those announcements along side our trailer at E3 06’. Just be ready to be completely shocked…I can guarantee that the smokescreen will be blown away come next E3.
GameSpy: Some gaming fans are claiming that Nintendo will not show a screenshot or trailer because the graphics are simply not on par with the other two consoles. Is this speculation without merit or could this be the case?
Martin Hollis: As I said before I really can’t comment on the graphics technologies of the console’s hardware. But rest assured that Nintendo has never manufactured the weakest powered hardware and that won’t change this go around. As to the speculation…did Nintendo not show off the DS’s graphics because they were afraid that it would look underpowered in comparison to the PSP…no. Nintendo was not afraid in the least to showcase the DS’s graphics. Even though they were certainly not as grand as the PSP. Nintendo is definitely not holding back the graphics because they don’t look as good. They just at least for the time being…want for the controller and innovative features to be the prime focus, so the press and what not doesn’t get too hung up on polygon count or dynamic lighting or bump mapping. So the claim that they aren’t releasing screenshots or trailers because they are ashamed of the graphics power is completely absurd.
GameSpy: Can we all agree that Nintendo has a lot more in store for fans in terms of the Revolution?
Martin Hollis: Most definitely…remember Nintendo are the underdogs here. So it goes without saying that when they do fully unveil the entire package it will be quite a shock to a lot of people. The time that Nintendo fans should be watching is E3 06’ Press Conference.
GameSpy: How do you react to the mainstream casual gamers view of Nintendo as a tiku tiku tiku! system that is mostly for kids and young teenagers?
Martin Hollis: I think the idea that Nintendo only makes tiku tiku tiku! games is about the most uncredible statement that is widely accepted by casual gamers. They may not have the quantity of violent or Mature themed games that either Sony or Microsoft have but they do have them. In my opinion on average the Mature themed games they do have are of much greater quality than the other two. To give a few examples Resident Evil 4 was phenomenal, Eternal Darkness completely blew me away, Killer7 was simply a work of art. Among many others they do have them and the quality is consistently there.
GameSpy: Why did you choose Nintendo to be exclusive to seeing that your record with Rareware and reputation could have landed you any deal you wanted?
Martin Hollis: Nintendo is a company full of many artists and few business men. That I really respect seeing that the industry is becoming more of a cash cow to a lot of publishers and developers alike its nice to side with a company that doesn’t just see dollar signs as it goes into development. They are a company and always have been a company that really see’s video games as not just money making opportunities but as a way of creative expression through interactive media. The Wind Waker was a real breath of fresh air through style and substance that created a perfect balance. Even though the Triforce hunt at the end was a bit unfinished I still think its one of the best games of all-time.
GameSpy: Is there anything that you don’t agree with Nintendo on be that marketing, being conservative with information etc.?
Martin Hollis: Well, their marketing has always lacked a lot to be desired but I see that has really started to change since the DS was released and Fils-Amie took over marketing. But being conservative right now with info on their console is really the only way to go seeing that they are really the underdog market-share wise. But I suspect certain aspects of the console will be revealed before the end of this year and I‘m sure that our title will help to end the idea that Nintendo is only for kids.
GameSpy: One last question before you go. Do you think within the press and media especially in the last generation that there has been a lot of persistence of trying to edge Nintendo out? Or trying to get casuals to accept the notion that Nintendo is only a niche player?
Martin Hollis: I think that is a fair assumption. But it’s not only the media and press that is to blame. Microsoft and Sony regularly throw money at corporate events and publications and even television broadcasts are massively paid off by Sony and Microsoft through contributions. They pay them to downplay competitors products to keep the notion alive that Sony and Microsoft are the key players. This is of course not the case but the media gets paid to make it look that way. But a portion of blame also rests on Nintendo’s shoulders as well. Because they could do the same thing as Sony or Microsoft but they have chosen not to be pro-active up until recently in terms of marketing and buzz on their products. So it has been a lot of factors but this has begun to change substantially since the launch of the DS and will continue to get better.
like I said, I don't know if it is real or not, but this has definately got me hyped for the Revolution.
"Lets Get Ready to Ruuummble!!"
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on September 21, 2005, 02:51:13 PM
By the way, I hope it doesn't become the new trend to fake interviews now that the controller's been revealed.
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 21, 2005, 02:54:46 PM
The answer to question number five was just ridiculous, and the rest of the arguments contained the same exact thing that almost everyone here has been saying for ages. It just seems that another forumer wrote it.
And yeah, it'll be a new trend to fake interviews, but I think we'll be seeing a lot more fake claims to have played with the Rev controller...
Post by: Ian Sane on September 21, 2005, 03:01:08 PM
Why would a real developer say "word has it"? I've never heard a real person involved in the industry spread rumours in an interview. That is so blatantly made up.
Post by: NotSoStu on September 21, 2005, 03:51:03 PM
Post by: Caliban on September 21, 2005, 03:54:02 PM
"Look, I have apologized to the editor at GameSpy for this. I never claimed this was real...I just recieved this in an e-mail from someone. I really couldn't tell you if its real or not we'd just have to wait until next month. Anyway, I saw that a lot of people were mixing and matching certain parts of this, and really turning the interview into something it wasn''t. So here is the full original document for all to see. Again if its real or not is anyone's guess until next month."
Post by: The Omen on September 21, 2005, 04:01:38 PM
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But the word is that you may be able to view most if not all past Nintendo games on the virtual console in true next-generation graphics and sound…as well as online.
How in the hell would this be possible? That's got to be fake. If it's real, then Nintendo have won next generation already.
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 21, 2005, 04:04:04 PM
Absurd. That means nothing.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on September 21, 2005, 04:27:02 PM
Post by: Djunknown on September 21, 2005, 05:31:25 PM
Is nothing sacred anymore? I know not to trust images, now I can't trust text? Maybe I should get my tinfoil hat so you can't ready my thoughts....
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2005, 06:35:27 PM
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Originally posted by: The OmenQuote
But the word is that you may be able to view most if not all past Nintendo games on the virtual console in true next-generation graphics and sound…as well as online.
How in the hell would this be possible? That's got to be fake. If it's real, then Nintendo have won next generation already.
Iwata REALLY DID say something along the lines of looking into the ability to give retro games "a new look"...So this bit dodges the ax for now... Link
Oh yeah, and Iwata ALSO talked about the possibility of retro games being online...
Edit: Actual quote from Iwata...
"We are doing several experiments, including working with the original Super Mario Bros., with the new technology," Iwata said. "The game itself and the gameplay shall be identical, but the look will be different -- it's possible that with Revolution we may be able to see the old games with new looks."
Edit 2: And now a quote on virtual console online being possible...
"Miyamoto also said that if it's technically possible on Revolution, then tweaking older games such as Mario Party for online play was a definite possibility." Link
(And before anyone gets me wrong, I'm not defending the "interview"...I'm attacking misjudged analyses...
Post by: The Omen on September 21, 2005, 07:11:11 PM
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(And before anyone gets me wrong, I'm not defending the "interview"...I'm attacking misjudged analyses...
I'm fully aware of what Iwata said. What he did not say was next generation graphics for any Nintendo game ever..
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on September 21, 2005, 07:12:15 PM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on September 21, 2005, 07:14:44 PM
This dude hasn't said one word about the REV and now he basically explodes with info....yeah f-in right.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2005, 07:14:51 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 21, 2005, 08:07:53 PM
I do remember that quote Bill mentioned though.
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 21, 2005, 08:18:34 PM
Aside from the graphics thing, the grammar sucks.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 21, 2005, 08:47:36 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Does anybody actually want to old games to have a new look? Seems to me the type of person that would be interested in playing the older games would want to play them as they were. Does ANYONE like the changes Nintendo made to their GBA ports? If you're such a graphics whore that you need new graphics to play a game you're not going to be downloading old games anyway. I say Nintendo should leave the classics alone. The potential customers for the download service would probably prefer it.
I do remember that quote Bill mentioned though.
If Ninty does "upgrade" the visuals of their retro titles, I'm fairly sure they'd have both the classic AND upgraded versions available for download...The classic versions would be for those that haven't played the games before or for those who just want them on their system, and the upgraded versions would be a nice bonus for thus who already own the classic versions...
Post by: ShyGuy on September 21, 2005, 09:51:02 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 21, 2005, 10:00:35 PM
Post by: IceCold on September 21, 2005, 10:35:52 PM
And then he just became a forum poster, talking about Reggie and NURBS and how the WW triforce hunt was unfinished etc.
Post by: Mario on September 21, 2005, 11:30:25 PM
Post by: MrMojoRising on September 22, 2005, 12:19:42 AM
Post by: zakkiel on September 22, 2005, 04:09:40 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Nope, you're going to have to do better than that to fully shoot down this rumour...It's all within acceptable limits...
The syntax and grammar of both the interviewer and interviewee sound exactly like those "inside sources" that popped up all over and spewed lies in the previous months. "Nintendo has almost been overkill about not letting any screenshots or trailers leaked to the press"? We should have a contest to try and make this interview believable.
As for viewing classic titles in next-gen graphics... please. Nintendo may bump the resolution, but that's it. No way they spend the ridiculous amount of time and money updating old products. You might as well claim that Nintendo will offer free broadband to all purchasers of the Revolution. It's good to be optimistic, but this is ridiculous.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 22, 2005, 04:16:57 AM
We have absolutely no idea what kind of techniques Ninty has come up with, so you can't assume anything...Iwata's statement DEFINITELY points to more than just a simple resolution boost (which would be stupid, because he wouldn't bring up such a petty feature).
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 22, 2005, 04:27:37 AM
Now, could Nintendo figure a way to update the graphics on some of there games? I don't see how anything is possible with the 2D sprite based games, except for maybe making a smoother, and less pixelated mode 7, for Mario Kart and F-Zero. Anything else sprites have to be replaced completely. Presummably Nintendo I guess could have had artists go back and redesign old 2D artwork and animation schemes, but that wouldn't benefit SNES games, because they were already good...only NES games. Is that worth it?
Now N64 that is completely different. Nintendo could have some software inside to change the look of the polygons...perhaps make them higher resolution. Or throw different shaders on them to fleshout the look of the world. I could even see something to make the games look Cell-Shaded...but again why would Nintendo need to do this? And if they did, doesn't that make the game alittle harder to get into?
Anyway, it doesn't matter because its fake.
Post by: Ian Sane on September 22, 2005, 08:09:27 AM
That's not of a total nothing feature. TV's come in bigger sizes now than they did ten years ago. So if they replaced all the old sprites with higher resolution ones that would pretty cool. If you play SNES games on a big screen (or a PC monitor) the graphics look a lot more pixelated because they were designed for a lower resolution. To it would be cool to play old games with everything looking more crisp. It would be kind of like comparing VHS to DVD. It's not something they have to do though. It would be cool but I don't know how feasible it is and I'm not going to care if they don't do it.
Post by: vudu on September 22, 2005, 09:30:07 AM
QuoteWhen was any info released on this game? This is the first I've heard about it. Last I knew is they were working on an additional mystery game (not Funkydilla) but no info had been released. When was it decided that the game was (A) a FPS, (B) a Revolution exclusive, and (C) graphic enough to warrent an AO rating?
GameSpy: Before we go any further can you tell us when we might get some more info on Guts N’ Glory or see a screenshot or trailer?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 22, 2005, 09:35:45 AM
when next month is Nintendo supposed to give more info on future plans? Maybe thats when this game is supposedly supposed to be announced and this interview is to be posted after that announcement has been made.
assuming any of it is true that is...
Post by: Toruresu on September 22, 2005, 10:33:04 AM
We'll know in about a month.
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 22, 2005, 11:21:40 AM
Post by: zakkiel on September 22, 2005, 01:09:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"Nintendo may bump the resolution, but that's it. No way they spend the ridiculous amount of time and money updating old products."
We have absolutely no idea what kind of techniques Ninty has come up with, so you can't assume anything...Iwata's statement DEFINITELY points to more than just a simple resolution boost (which would be stupid, because he wouldn't bring up such a petty feature).
I can assume that no automatic technique will transform a slew of 50-triangle models to 500-triangle models intelligently. That's why game studios need 3d artists.
Could you link to Iwata's statement? I'm trying to remember exactly what he said.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 22, 2005, 02:04:50 PM
Post by: The Omen on September 22, 2005, 04:49:44 PM
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I stopped reading after the nurb question. This interview sounded really fake. No developer is going to have 100% great things to say about any of the systems unless they work for one of the 3 companies. That is just fact. There is always something to critize.
Isn't Zoonami in effect, working for Nintendo? I thought they were a second party now?
Overall, I guess the interview has to be labeled fake. But I wish it wasn't.
Post by: zakkiel on September 22, 2005, 06:08:45 PM
Post by: Mario on September 22, 2005, 06:24:01 PM
Post by: Epitaph on September 22, 2005, 07:14:13 PM
Post by: The Omen on September 22, 2005, 08:20:18 PM
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Holograms.
Virtual
Reality
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 22, 2005, 08:50:05 PM
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 22, 2005, 09:17:02 PM
Post by: MrMojoRising on September 23, 2005, 12:47:13 AM
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Originally posted by: The Omen
Isn't Zoonami in effect, working for Nintendo? I thought they were a second party now?
Overall, I guess the interview has to be labeled fake. But I wish it wasn't.
I don't think so...based solely on the fact that on their web-page they announced being an official PSP developer or licencee or whatnot. It seems like with their artistic approach to gaming that they fit in best with Nintendo...plus they had something to do with making the gamecube or something...so they are very close it seems.
Post by: Caliban on September 23, 2005, 04:39:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Rancid Planet
5D
Impossible for us humans.
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 23, 2005, 05:32:00 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
The are people in the n64-emu scene creating a filter/mod that manages to flesh-out the 3D models (adding more polygons?) and round their edges, making them a little more natural looking. There are even those working on making Ocarina of Time cel-shaded.
Adding more polygons? I don't recall such a project and I was just there yesterday. I could be wrong, but I think you might have mistaken the hi-res texture map projects for that. What they basically did was take the original game's textures and enhance the hell out of them. Paper Mario now looks virtually identical to the GC game due to the super hi-res textures. The cel-shaded games are also amazing, cel-shaded Mario 64 and OOT.
Post by: Mario on September 23, 2005, 07:00:20 AM
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Originally posted by: CalibanQuote
Originally posted by: Rancid Planet
5D
Impossible for us humans.
Are we humans? Revolution will bring our true selves out of our human skin.
Post by: ShyGuy on September 23, 2005, 08:00:11 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 23, 2005, 08:49:01 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
what is the fifth dimension? does it come before or after the sixth sense? and where in all these dimensions does yaw fit in? the Rev controller can do yaw right?
All of these questions and more shall be answered in due time, my son. Now join us, come step into the light. The Revolution is waiting for you... all of you....
Change is inevitable, as you must accept and embrace this change to truly enjoy the ultimate experience of life.
Now follow us to a higher plane of existence where knowledge will be obtained and utopia has been achieved.
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Originally posted by: CalibanQuoteImpossible for us humans.
Originally posted by: Rancid Planet
5D
Nothing is impossible when you revolutionize your way of gaming, join us in the light and all will be revealed shortly...
Change is inevitable, change is necessary...[/brainwash]
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 23, 2005, 10:23:19 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 23, 2005, 10:31:44 AM
QuoteOK now you're pushing it...
Originally posted by: Rancid Planet
6D
Post by: vudu on September 23, 2005, 11:27:55 AM
Quote[Convulses] No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who plays in 6D? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel. 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 doors. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.
Originally posted by: Rancid Planet
6D
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 23, 2005, 12:13:40 PM
Post by: Caliban on September 23, 2005, 12:32:44 PM
ShyGuy : We humans can only perceive 3 dimensions, we have 5 senses but some people can go beyond it but not as natural as the first 5 basic senses work.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 23, 2005, 01:43:18 PM
We have 5........... THOUSAND!
Post by: The Omen on September 23, 2005, 04:57:14 PM
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It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.
Why?
Post by: Rancid Planet on September 23, 2005, 10:46:10 PM
- MCA
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I think we can all appreciate the relevence of that.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on September 24, 2005, 07:06:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
You silly humans and your pathetic 3 dimensions.
We have 5........... THOUSAND!
dont question it
