Post by: norebonomis on September 13, 2005, 10:14:52 AM
realistically we shouldn't expect a revolution release until xmas '06 so why would they reveal the controller now? why would they reveal the ON helmet? why would they show anything this early?
i believe at the most we will get to see some teaser footage maybe mario128, metroid, or (pathetically pleads) nexzt-gen zelda.
all that being said, wouldn't it be awesome if they decided to to a full-blown revolution unveiling and super fast xmas '05 launch!!! take that microshaft! take that puss-station!
nintendo is the awesome.
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2005, 10:17:16 AM
Myself, personally? I believe that one should be hyped for everything, and if it doesn't happen, you move on...You aren't going to die if you hype something up and nothing comes of it...
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 13, 2005, 10:38:15 AM
I can't play Poker because I get too emotionally involved with each hand that I can't sleep for nights after the game.
Hype for me is the same way. I get so excited digesting everything that when nothing comes in I feel completely drained.
Post by: trip1eX on September 13, 2005, 10:43:49 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2005, 10:49:30 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 13, 2005, 10:55:17 AM
I'm not hyped for this. But I am willing to be surprised.
norebonomis, do not expect to see Zelda. They might show footage, but they don't want to overshadow the upcoming Zelda with a next-gen Zelda.
Post by: Toruresu on September 13, 2005, 11:26:34 AM
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Yeah I wonder why they would show anything now this early unless the Revolution is coming out early 2006. I would wait till after xmas.
That's simple, to try and convince us NOT to buy an X360. They need to show us (me) something, or people will buy the X360.
Post by: Ian Sane on September 13, 2005, 11:38:10 AM
Why WOULD they reveal something that is no obviously not real?
I certainly think it's possible that we'll see nothing exciting. I still expect to see something though. If Nintendo waits any longer to show us the controller then they're idiots. The Xbox 360 is launching this year and people need a reason to get excited about the Rev or they'll buy the competition. "Trust us it will be cool" isn't good enough particularly since Nintendo is at pretty much it's lowest point in popularity ever right now. With Zelda delayed there's nothing really exceptional coming out for the Cube this Christmas and I imagine a fair bit of disgruntled Nintendo fans are going to be considering switching teams when the X360 comes out. Nintendo fans need something to believe in and that means we have to know a fair bit more about the Rev.
I feel it's TGS or bust. They might not show anything but they should.
"wouldn't it be awesome if they decided to to a full-blown revolution unveiling and super fast xmas '05 launch"
Not if it's anything like the super fast xmas '04 DS launch. I don't think they have to launch early. They just have to make sure that when the other consoles launch people know about the Rev and want to wait for it. A rushed and weak launch followed by a DS-style drought would probably be worse than launching in 2006.
Post by: couchmonkey on September 13, 2005, 12:09:35 PM
I think Nintendo should show something for the same reasons as Ian. Nintendo needs to give gamers a reason not to buy a 360. I still don't think multi-system gamers are common enough for Nintendo to rely on people buying both its machine and someone elses, so it needs to get people interested before Xbox 360 is launched.
Post by: stevey on September 13, 2005, 12:14:28 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 13, 2005, 12:24:50 PM
However, Iwata is making another keynote speech, and I doubt it will be entirely about the Revolution. Iwata wants to say something, otherwise he wouldn't be at TGS, which is unusual for Nintendo. What he wants to say may not be about the Rev specifically.. If the Rev is going to detract from his main point, than they may not show it.
Post by: BigJim on September 13, 2005, 12:36:03 PM
We might hear a combination of vague comments (re: controller) and also more detailed comments about other aspects of their future.
Don't forget there are still very few details known about their internet connectivity. Is it ONLY matchmaking and virtual console downloads? I'm banking on a much more robust service than what we know about. ESPECIALLY since there's a fee involved. I highly doubt it'll be nothing more than just a bland selection list of available downloads.
I'm not saying they will necessarily go into detail about their online service. I'm just saying that there is little known about ALL aspects of the system, and they could drop big news that comes out of left field since we're focusing so much on the darn controller.
Post by: foolish03 on September 13, 2005, 12:56:37 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on September 13, 2005, 01:00:16 PM
Because all my faith lies in Ray Almeda of AMN, who's firmly stated something big's going down tonight (Japan tomorrow morning).
Post by: norebonomis on September 13, 2005, 01:56:09 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on September 13, 2005, 02:12:28 PM
The problem is that Nintendo has made it out like the controller is the Rev's big edge. After that kind of build up they can't show us everything but. We've been told that the controller is the whole point. Without it we still don't really know what we want to know. My greatest concern regarding the Rev is that controller will be too weird. If I don't see the controller that concern will still be there and it will make it harder to get excited. The X360 has a pretty generic controller but at least it's a safe proven design so no one is going to be concerned about it.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 13, 2005, 02:35:31 PM
Pack up your bags everyone. The excitement has left the building.
Post by: pudu on September 13, 2005, 02:53:12 PM
more-or-less solid dates for the full unveiling
some actual tech specs and discussion on their architecture
a small hint at the games of Rev. *crossing fingers for some video clips*
mention of one or two new games they are making
as for the controller? I'm not expecting anything but wouldn't be surprised if they reveal some actual info, whether it be another "hint" at it, if we get a vague overview of it, or if we see it. I can't really get too angry if they hold off some stuff for X360's launch...
my only question is: If not at TGS when and where would be an appropriate time and place?
Post by: Ian Sane on September 13, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
Aren't all potatoes wireless?
Post by: pudu on September 13, 2005, 02:58:05 PM
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"The controller is a wireless potato."
Aren't all potatoes wireless?
Hmm that makes sense then. It's easily copied but still HIGHLY unique and is something only Nintendo could hype up to sound awsome. I mean really, imagine the amount of creativity and uniqueness that would result from this!!!
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2005, 02:58:29 PM
Post by: The Omen on September 13, 2005, 03:14:37 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 13, 2005, 03:55:52 PM
Now if they said "show up" I'd start getting excited.
And for the record, I don't think anything exciting will be shown at TGS, Rev-wise. But I like Iwata's speeches so I'm still looking forward to it... and the onflux of bitching will make forums everywhere livelier than ever.
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 13, 2005, 04:01:07 PM
Yeah right. That would be suicide. They said all would be revealed by the end of the year, and there are only two big events between now and then. The TGS and some other thing.
Post by: pudu on September 13, 2005, 04:42:49 PM
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I believe nothing will be shown at TGS.
Because all my faith lies in Ray Almeda of AMN, who's firmly stated something big's going down tonight (Japan tomorrow morning).
Sorry but this fell through as I imagined it would. Take a look >>>HERE<<< They "assure" info on Thrusday and Friday though I can't help but doubt them now.
Post by: Mario on September 13, 2005, 05:09:17 PM
Post by: pudu on September 13, 2005, 06:13:13 PM
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You guys remember from the E3 presentation, Iwata said something like "I will share with you later" regarding the controller? Iwata will be the one to share it with us? Sounds like TGS is very likely.
"the conrollers will also be very unique in ways we will share with you later" is the quote I believe you are reffering to. I just watched the Rev. segment at E3 2005.
Something to consider though is he has a full 50 minutes to talk. The entire E3 presentation was less then 60 minutes long and the all of the Rev. news was revealed in roughly 15 minutes. This is quite a chunk of time for Iwata to be talking...who knows what he might reveal...
Post by: trip1eX on September 13, 2005, 06:22:37 PM
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Yeah I wonder why they would show anything now this early unless the Revolution is coming out early 2006. I would wait till after xmas.
That's simple, to try and convince us NOT to buy an X360. They need to show us (me) something, or people will buy the X360.
I hear ya but I think the early adopters are already set on buying a 360. I think it's a given the 360 will sell it's share during xmas. I mean even the dreamcast had a good launch afaik. I'm sure it sold a million or two or so in the beginning.
I was thinking you wait till the pre-xmas hype dies down and then start hyping up the REvolution in the spring.
Also why let the cat out of the bag about the controller. They don't want it copied. Of course MS and Sony probably already know what it is.
Of course I really want them to tell me now damnit.
Post by: couchmonkey on September 14, 2005, 06:24:45 AM
Nintendo's advantage lies in quality games that take advantage of the new interface. Analog control wouldn't have meant much for the N64 if it weren't for the fact that Super Mario 64, Pilotwings, and Wave Race all made great use of it. As did Cruis'n USA, Mario Kart, Turok and Blast Corps - all released in the first 6 months of the system's lifespan.
Maybe Nintendo should show off the new interface and a simple demonstration of what it can do for a traditional game (Super Smash Bros or Metroid Prime 3). Then leave us with some game footage and the idea that there are even cooler uses coming for the controller/interface. The whole "interface" thing could have something to do with this as well. It's possible Nintendo can reveal the controller and some revolutionary parts of the system without revealing everything.
Whatever the company does, the basic idea is to give people enough info to get excited now instead of 8 months from now.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on September 14, 2005, 06:28:01 AM
Have you guys already forgotten about all the clues that were not only dropped by news companies like IGN, but Nintendo themselves?
