Post by: nemo_83 on September 01, 2005, 01:07:11 PM
I just want to say, where the **** are the air drops?
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 01, 2005, 02:44:01 PM
Anyway, stuff sounds like it's really bad down there. I live in Louisiana, but I'm up in the northern regions for college (we didn't even get rain). My house is fine, aside from some minor tree damage.
I hear there's been looting, shootings, and tons of crap like that. People shooting at helicopters that are trying to save people. People shooting at people trying to evacuate from a hospital. It's ridiculous. Something along the lines of some men (gang members or something, I'm uncertain) breaking into a Wal-mart and stealing guns. Not to mention all the flooding and everything.
I was keeping tabs on one friend in New Orleans, but she's safe in Baton Rouge now. Best of luck to everyone left, though.
Post by: nemo_83 on September 01, 2005, 02:58:13 PM
What I have gathered from reports is they are sending troops down there to "secure" things and stop the looters. The only way to stop them is to start delivering aid; not policing them. People don't care about the guard; they want food so they can feed their children. It doesn't matter if they send 900,000 troops; troops are trained to destroy. People need, let me repeat that; NEED food and water.
The MS heat and humidity is not a joke; without power and water, it can kill you.
just one story from cnn
Post by: Pale on September 01, 2005, 03:39:53 PM
But anyway, I understand your stress Nemo even though I'm not down there myself. I want to both stick up for the government now and tell them they are idiots.
1. Contrary to what you are saying, they are sending tons of food and water right now. TONS... They realize crap is up and they are taking care of it. You don't have to be all "They are ignoring us."
2. The one thing you should be complaining about is the fact that this was a well forcasted storm yet the government did nothing before it hit short of warning people they should leave. The boats filled with the food and water left after the storm passed. Some of them are as many as 5 days out. They should have had the guts to send one before the storm hit. Worst case scenario is they waist some gas...
Edit: Well I finally got word from them and it turns out they are fine and so is their house. They were far enough outside NO to avoid it I guess.
Post by: kennyb27 on September 01, 2005, 05:14:32 PM
But anyway, I hope to get back to check on my house sometime early next week.
Post by: IceCold on September 01, 2005, 05:39:39 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 01, 2005, 07:53:45 PM
Looting and stealing drugs are almost nothing. There have been several murders and at least twelve rapes around the superdome. The looters that stole guns and ammunition are shooting at buses and boats that are trying to evacuate refugees. At this point, I daresay that while food and water should still be brought in, the troops are a necessity and need to eliminate all of the criminals (ie, outright kill. There's no redemption for crap like that) before anything else can get done.
It's good to hear from you, too, kenny. I knew you lived around New Orleans, so it's good to know you're alright.
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 01, 2005, 07:57:11 PM
Post by: Shecky on September 01, 2005, 07:57:57 PM
Post by: Deguello on September 01, 2005, 11:22:14 PM
Post by: kennyb27 on September 02, 2005, 06:20:00 AM
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Originally posted by: Deguello
Trying as hard as I can to not make this political and blame certain members of our government for this colossal clusterf***, and from pointing out certain members of the government cut funding from levee construction for a war.
You might want to actually have some first-hand knowledge of the current levee systems before throwing out statements that you just heard on the news. The war had nothing to do with the current levee system (and I know because I live(d) there).
Quick personal story: my uncle works as the dispatcher for the New Orleans area, and there was a pregnant lady who was bleeding who came to the dispatch station. So they sent her in a police car to this doctor. Of course these a**holes shot at the police car, so they had to come back.
Anywho, hopefully the worst of this is over. The military was sent in with the command, "if they shoot at you, shoot to kill." And considering these f***ing jerks are shooting at everyone trying to help, there won't be too many of them left soon.
Post by: nemo_83 on September 02, 2005, 06:23:54 AM
Its good to hear you guys are safe.
My issue right now is that the federal gov't still has not passed the 10.5 billion dollars for relief. People needed help the next day and now its been a week and people are still waiting for buses to come pick them up.
I'm sorry I sound so negative guys; its just been a rough week man. The news media, the states, and the federal gov't did little more leading up to this storm other than warn us. They have done more in the past for storms that were nothing compared to this thing.
Post by: Ian Sane on September 02, 2005, 07:22:52 AM
I'm not usually pro-violence but if the military came and just starting killing these f*ckers I honestly wouldn't care. The only problem is that some innocent people would probably get killed and that's not fair. But that's the fault of these f*cks for creating a situation that would require such measures.
Post by: PaLaDiN on September 02, 2005, 07:59:52 AM
I'm not even American but this is the most depressing news I've heard in a long while.
Post by: Pale on September 02, 2005, 08:46:37 AM
Stuff sucks... we know that...
No amount of help could make everyone happy. There could always be more. The fact of the matter is, we all weren't prepared for this. It was really hard to be. As I said above, there are some things they could have done ahead of time, but even with those, there would still be much of the same.
The reason we are seeing what "isn't america" is because its so widespread. People should have been out ahead of time. The problem with saying that is that a lot of them had nowhere to go. Poverty level and low income people without relatives or friends to go to had nothing else to do. The damage was so widespread that now we don't have the facilities to take care of all of these people. You people should be more pissed off at the media who are hollywooding the whole thing, or even the store owners that are marking things up. Ever think that people who want to help are having issues helping for the same reason your parent's didn't give away those 150 generators? I'm not trashing them at all. I understand that they most likely couldn't afford that and that is very respectable. I would sell them if I was in their shoes. Charity can only go so far, and that's all I'm saying.
I just wish people would stop pointing the finger at our damn scapegoat of a president and start being pissed at the a3sholes who are committing these crimes. If everyone would want to actually help each other get through it, it wouldn't be this bad.
Post by: nemo_83 on September 02, 2005, 09:13:44 AM
"I don't want to see anybody do anymore goddamn press conferences. Put a moratorium on press conferences. Don't do another press conference until the resources are in this city. And then come down to this city and stand with us when there are military trucks and troops that we can't even count.
Don't tell me 40,000 people are coming here. They're not here. It's too doggone late. Now get off your asses and do something, and let's fix the biggest goddamn crisis in the history of this country."
Post by: nickmitch on September 02, 2005, 12:32:59 PM
Post by: kennyb27 on September 02, 2005, 04:48:01 PM
QuoteDon't worry, I'm already pissed off at the media. It seems like every national station is interviewing the looters:
You people should be more pissed off at the media who are hollywooding the whole thing
Reporter: Why are you looting?
Looter #1: We neeta feed our families, bra.
Looter #2: Yeah, dog, it's all about our families.
(Looters 1 and 2 take football jerseys, video games, and tvs off walmart shelves)
Reporter: Of course, a very noble cause, back to you in the studio.
It's just freaking ridiculous. The media are allowing this to go on.
On mayor Nagin: He really is a breath of fresh air after our previous corrupt mayors. This guy genuinely cares about the good in the city. Like nemo said, READ the transcript, it really is good to have someone in our local politics say what they mean and vice-versa.
Up in Missouri, I have met with nothing but goodwill from everyone and everyone I converse with both on the internet and everyday has been supportive.
Oh, and Ian: I couldn't have said it better myself.
Nemo, Pale, HC, TVman, and everyone else on this forums affected by this disaster, my thoughts and prayers go out to you and yours missing, lost, and affected by the hurricane. Good luck to all (it looks as if we may need it).
Post by: slacker on September 02, 2005, 06:11:33 PM
The effort was well intentioned by FEMA, but for the most part, ineffective. If there is one good thing that came out of this, is that perhaps after all is said and done, a better plan would be in place and now Americans truly know how vulnerable they are in a major disaster.
As for them folks who are shooting at rescuers, lightning should strike on them. They aren't making the situation any better, but in fact are making things 10 times worst.
I like New Orlean's mayor's straight talk and its refreshing to see someone like him as a public figure. Anyways, it looks like the resources are getting there today and that is great news. Hopefully, things will finally go well and smoothly.
Post by: nickmitch on September 03, 2005, 05:44:08 PM
On the looters: MOST of them are, in fact, genuine in their looting interests. The rest are just scared and confused so they need the most pity.
Good news: Everyone in my family is now in a safe area!
Post by: nickmitch on September 04, 2005, 03:56:48 PM
Post by: RABicle on September 04, 2005, 10:11:37 PM
Anyway the whole city will be written off, may as well salvage what you can through looting.
Post by: nemo_83 on September 05, 2005, 08:29:22 AM
Post by: Pale on September 05, 2005, 09:23:55 AM
Post by: nemo_83 on September 05, 2005, 09:36:52 AM
Post by: nickmitch on September 05, 2005, 03:11:28 PM
except Clinton, he was cool
Post by: oohhboy on September 06, 2005, 09:42:51 AM
I bet no one would miss him if some one blew his brains out. I wouldn't miss him. But then the VP isn't any better.
The federal goverment is only as good as it's leader and given what is at hand well, in some ways I wasn't that suprised with the aftermath.
Good luck with your house TVman.
Post by: IceCold on September 06, 2005, 01:42:38 PM
Post by: slacker on September 06, 2005, 07:05:22 PM
Post by: nemo_83 on September 14, 2005, 11:29:38 AM
Downgrade.
I didn't get power back until Sunday, my realter didn't get someone to fix the ceiling until today, and my school wants me to pay them a couple of thousand dollars to rush through the semester after being homeless for; what is it now, two, three weeks? I lost track of the days. I feel like quiting, and worst of all I will likely be one of the last people on the board to find out what the revolution is. Someone give me a gun so I can kill myself already. I havn't the money to pay for books and I have papers due already by friday. *Jumps for joy*
Post by: mantidor on September 14, 2005, 07:14:05 PM
Post by: nemo_83 on September 16, 2005, 08:27:59 AM
At least the control mechanic of the REV is good news (though I will have some comments on the square design).
Post by: nickmitch on September 18, 2005, 04:50:58 PM
I'll be back with a permemant connection tuesday but I'm really p!ssed that I m!ssed the rev controller announcement. DAMN YOU KATRINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ThePerm on September 18, 2005, 05:44:56 PM
Post by: nickmitch on October 07, 2005, 04:23:14 PM
I went to my house today to try to salvage what I could. My entire stock of videogames was safe, sound AND dry! All my posters and stuff were ok. BTW I would like to thank whoever invented two story houses because without them none of this would be possible. The bottom floor was smelly and disasterous. Mold was everywhere. Our big screen was on its face. My SNES isn't reachable, though I might be able to save it and SMW. All the furniture was ruined. It stank in there. The floor was completely covered in "dirt." The fridge was on its back. Wood was rotted. Chairs were rusty. Pictures had fallen down and broken all over the floor. There were CDs scattered all over the kitchen. The entire house was maloderous.
I'm going back tomorrow to take pictures (with the SD card IN this time) and maybe some more video. BTW I filmed some stuff. I went by my school, but no one was there so I'll try again tomorrow 'cause it's Saturday.
Post by: Renny on October 08, 2005, 07:38:27 AM
Post by: nickmitch on October 08, 2005, 02:11:30 PM
That's all I got for now, but don't touch that dial, I'll be back with more. . .eventually. . .
