Post by: TMW on August 25, 2005, 11:04:29 AM
This is first time I've actually felt a need to purchase a 360.
Hopefully, they -will- go multiplatform and I won't have to.
What I really love about this is it will be Shenmue 1 and 2 as well, so I won't have to track down a DC copy and a Freeloader to play #2.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 25, 2005, 11:46:11 AM
And it had better be coming to Nintendo RevoNever Happening, as we know Sega + Microsoft = disaster. Given the international audience enjoyed Shenmue2 on Dreamcast, they of course couldn't enjoy a nonexistant international Xbox Shenmue2. Given Shenmue2 only came to Xbox in the US, the US Dreamcast audience simply got pissed.
Oh well i got to enjoy the Euro version of Shenmue2 with JPN voice acting and engrish subtitles, just like watching awesome anime.
Post by: Ian Sane on August 25, 2005, 12:08:01 PM
But then this is Sammy Sega who bears no resemblance to the talented REAL Sega so this will probably blow anyway. So I guess it won't really matter.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 25, 2005, 12:30:35 PM
Post by: TMW on August 25, 2005, 12:43:10 PM
Link plzkthx.
Post by: Nephilim on August 25, 2005, 04:49:51 PM
everything else in the artical is speculation
they never even mentioned 360 in the qoute, all the other evidence is just built on a few qoute staken from here and there for the last 3years
Post by: TMW on August 25, 2005, 05:00:42 PM
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sources close to the development of Shenmue 3 revealed to Kikizo that the project has essentially been close to finished and 'ready' for some time
Does that sound like speculation to you?
Hell, they could be out and out lying. But I still require proof of Sega debunking this as a rumor.
Post by: Nephilim on August 25, 2005, 07:52:53 PM
but still doesnt mention 360 anywere, only reason why they assume is because xbox sites have been hound dogging him
Post by: Djunknown on August 26, 2005, 12:10:27 PM
At the same time, Yu-Suzuki not totally involved with his 'baby'? That's hard to believe. Granted, it took an army to make Shenmue I (I still haven't played part II; I've been baaad...) but at the end of the day, its his vision of an RPG we were getting.
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But this is a company who has a reputation for making the most illogical stupid decisions imaginable so it wouldn't surprise me if it was X360 exclusive.
But those were the old rules. Remember that Microsoft has a stable of Japanese devs aside from Tecmo and SquareEnix on board for the '360. Though I'm still betting that Nintendo fans wouldl be more responisve to the Shenmue series, both in Japan and North America.
Compiling the the previous two titles is a great idea. They'd just have to port part one, since part two has been on the Xbox (barring backward compatibilty issues.) They could bill it as the greatest RPG epic ever released.
I'll hold off playing Shenmue 2 for a while longer...It does seem there will be a conclusion to this series before I'm 30 afterall
Post by: Leon Esla on August 26, 2005, 01:15:04 PM
Shenmue 3, Lost Odyssey and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion seal the deal alone. Where X-Box failed to impress me, 360 has made up in every way possible. And it's not even out yet!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 26, 2005, 02:30:16 PM
$700?
$800?
$1200?
Post by: IceCold on August 26, 2005, 02:42:49 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 26, 2005, 11:51:11 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 27, 2005, 12:26:20 AM
Post by: Renny on August 27, 2005, 09:59:10 AM
Post by: ThePerm on August 27, 2005, 11:50:56 AM
revolution better be revolutionary...if not well i hope it fails..so it can b e like a nintendo wake up call.
if i t did end up on revolution..it might wake up sega....
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 27, 2005, 05:13:38 PM
I would be so happy if this comes out at all!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 28, 2005, 12:11:55 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 28, 2005, 01:09:53 AM
Whoa big surprise there considering the system isn't even properly announced!
Post by: Ian Sane on August 29, 2005, 07:18:18 AM
That's the point. The lack of information regarding the Rev hurts it. There is no real incentive to buy a Rev yet because we don't know much about it. But we do know about the Xbox 360 which launches this year. So Nintendo has to reveal some major info soon to give everyone a reason to buy a Rev.
Personally I'm not sold on the X360 because of the price but Nintendo hasn't sold me a Rev yet either. I like Nintendo the company a whole lot more than MS or Sony so I'll probably buy a Rev at some point but WHEN I will buy it is key. Nintendo should make me want to buy it at launch and to do that they have to give me confidence that it's going to be a serious competitor. If it's not going to compete I might as well wait until the thing's marked down in the clearance section like the Saturn and Dreamcast were.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 29, 2005, 08:39:31 AM
Yeah, I went to my local electronics store and those non-existant Revolutions just aren't selling! Good GRIEF, noone decides whether they will buy a system or not a year in advance...
Post by: Ian Sane on August 29, 2005, 08:55:00 AM
It's not a year in advance. The Xbox 360 launches in only a few months. Therefore people are making their decisions soon. A purchased Xbox 360 is for all intents and purposes a lost Rev sale. Once someone has bought one console they're pretty much made their decision regarding the others. Most people only buy one console.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 29, 2005, 09:00:11 AM
Also, if anyone should be worried about losing gamers, it's SONY, NOT Nintendo...Sony and Microsoft fans have similar taste (in crap) and thus there will be more flipping between the two companies...Ninty's fanbase, on the otherhand, buys Nintendo consoles for Ninty's games, so their fanbase is a lot more stable than the other two...In addition, Ninty is reaching out to those that don't game at all, so all in all Ninty is aiming at their own stable userbase along with the potential gain of new additions to the gaming world...
Post by: KDR_11k on August 29, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
Microsoft better has more information out there than Nintendo considering the launch is just a few months away! In fact it seems rather bad for their schedule that they didn't have any playable units at the GC. By now the system should be finalized and gone into production if they want to have enough available at launch.
Thing is, the X360 is underwhelming, so is the PS3. Many are holding off for the Rev or put it on their "to buy" list in addition to a X360/PS3. As long as the Rev isn't announced it isn't underwhelming. Those who aren't intrigued by the prospect of new gameplay aren't regular gamers and would have bought their respective system anyway, no matter how good the Rev is because they're going with what's hyped to them the most. And at the moment the X360 got more hype.
Post by: ShyGuy on August 29, 2005, 11:55:35 AM
But KDR_11k is right, they really do seem unprepared for a system that is launching in 3 months.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 29, 2005, 11:00:24 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on August 30, 2005, 08:05:53 AM
Umm, that's way off-topic. I've always been interested in this series, but I'm a one-console person, and you have to own two just to play the two games in the series so far, so I'm definitely hoping Shenmue 3 comes to Revolution. I think it would be nice of Sega to release it on 360 for those who followed the series on the first Xbox, though.
Post by: Ian Sane on August 30, 2005, 08:10:20 AM
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Post by: ShyGuy on August 30, 2005, 10:30:45 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 31, 2005, 01:19:42 AM
Sure, it may and probably will turn out completely unlike any of our predictions. It's still too far off to make any accurate predictions, especially for outsiders like us. My money is on "X360 launch is a desaster" but the Rev is still a complete unknown for me (everything from complete failure to good success seems possible).
I think it was ahead of its time for the concept
As were most of Peter's games. The guy can think of good concepts but implementing them seems to be almost impossible. He also changes his mind about what he wants every five minutes.
Post by: Nick DiMola on August 04, 2007, 05:32:17 AM
God, please let this be true.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 04, 2007, 05:49:39 AM
Post by: Mashiro on August 04, 2007, 06:40:14 AM
I stopped caring about Segas masterpiece of a game when they slapped US DC owners in the face by releasing Shenmue 2 in europe and not the US.
Good move Sega! I hope Shenmue 3 bombs on Xbox 360 just like Shenmue 2 bombed before.
Post by: denjet78 on August 04, 2007, 06:44:27 AM
This is so much fanboy hope it's not even funny. They basically thew together a list of what they wanted to happen. Besides, I just cannot see Sega working on all those games at one time and having any of them turn out to be anything in the way of good when they haven't released anything of worth in years.
Post by: Mashiro on August 04, 2007, 06:56:16 AM
Good move Sega! This is why you do horrible.
Post by: Adrock on August 04, 2007, 07:14:28 AM
And someone explain to me why Sega would promote Virtua Fighter 5 on PS3 when, by the time of TGS, it will have been out for at least 6 months in every territory.
Post by: ThePerm on August 04, 2007, 08:42:04 AM
i mean with
RE5
Dead Rising
Shenmue 3
Fable 2
the possibility that mgs4's exclusivity is dead
i think it would be well worth getting. Of course iv already got a Wii, I hope though that Nintendo will release some games that i'm actually going to like. I need to find out what comes after Smash Bros Brawl and Mario Galaxy, and metroid...but im pretty sure i can guess its gonna be Zelda...
Post by: Gamebasher on August 05, 2007, 04:42:10 AM
PIMP my XBOX360!!! No more overheating, longer life.
It´s way cool if we get Shenmue 3 on it.
I will also get:
Halo 3 (Chants: Halo 3...Halo 3...Halo 3...Halo 3...Halo 3...)
SEGA Rally Revo (finally we get a true sequel to SEGA Rally 2)
Resident Evil 5 (...although I would prefer it out on Wii instead)
Banjo-Kazooie 3 (me thinks the bird and the bear game will be the best ever)
Yup. Enough games there to keep me happy for over half a year. Pure gamingbliss.
Post by: Kairon on August 05, 2007, 08:45:56 AM
Post by: Stogi on August 05, 2007, 01:02:24 PM
I'm not trying to troll; I'm just interested and would like some information.
Post by: Kairon on August 05, 2007, 01:09:13 PM
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Post by: Kairon on August 05, 2007, 01:40:48 PM
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Post by: Mashiro on August 05, 2007, 02:14:46 PM
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Post by: Mashiro on August 05, 2007, 03:43:32 PM
Never played 2.
Post by: Stogi on August 05, 2007, 03:48:08 PM
Post by: Mashiro on August 05, 2007, 04:05:51 PM
Post by: Stogi on August 05, 2007, 06:50:56 PM
*loses interest immediately*
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 05, 2007, 07:53:33 PM
The Shenmue concept is basically a martial-arts revenge movie (80s style) drawn out into a series of 3D adventures.
Both games were very ambitious for their time since they took place in fairly dense 3D environments with people walking everywhere going about their business, has a day/night system.
Walk around and talk to people (LOTS of talking, full voice), lots of cutscenes plus interactive events (which probably inspired those of RE4) and find clues like in RPGs, and when you get into fights, it's sort of a compromise between simplified Virtua Fighter button combos and Final Fight gang fights. You learn new moves from different masters and other sources.
I find the martial arts cinema themes and cliches entertaining plus the martial arts mentors and villains and the lowly henchmen are fun to beat up.
Post by: Kairon on August 05, 2007, 09:08:31 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 05, 2007, 10:43:00 PM
I bought my Dreamcast when it was priced at $70. I bought Shenmue II (PAL) new off eBay for about $100; part of the appeal was the fact it was rare and more than a year had passed since its release -- but STILL A BARGAIN overall.
Post by: Ceric on August 06, 2007, 02:00:43 AM
Post by: Stogi on August 06, 2007, 06:49:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
LOL
The Shenmue concept is basically a martial-arts revenge movie (80s style) drawn out into a series of 3D adventures.
Both games were very ambitious for their time since they took place in fairly dense 3D environments with people walking everywhere going about their business, has a day/night system.
Walk around and talk to people (LOTS of talking, full voice), lots of cutscenes plus interactive events (which probably inspired those of RE4) and find clues like in RPGs, and when you get into fights, it's sort of a compromise between simplified Virtua Fighter button combos and Final Fight gang fights. You learn new moves from different masters and other sources.
I find the martial arts cinema themes and cliches entertaining plus the martial arts mentors and villains and the lowly henchmen are fun to beat up.
Well that sounds a lot better. I am all about old-school kung-fu movies (Shogun Assassin is one of my all time favorites).
Post by: Mashiro on August 06, 2007, 09:24:15 PM
Shenmue Online cancelled, Shenmue 3 not happening as Sega’s franchise dies.
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It’s now been confirmed by Kikizo staff saying: “As for Shenmue, I would have to say at this stage, it is worth forgetting about.
Bye Shenmue.
I'll always remember buying the first game because I was the only one to go into Toys R Us and ask for the title. They had to open to box just to get the game for me haha.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 06, 2007, 09:26:56 PM
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Well looks like Shenmue is dead ladies and gentlemen:
Shenmue Online cancelled, Shenmue 3 not happening as Sega’s franchise dies.Quote
It’s now been confirmed by Kikizo staff saying: “As for Shenmue, I would have to say at this stage, it is worth forgetting about.
Bye Shenmue.
I'll always remember buying the first game because I was the only one to go into Toys R Us and ask for the title. They had to open to box just to get the game for me haha.
Stupid talentless hacks at Sega mess up something else with tons of potential and leave us all hanging!
Post by: Mashiro on August 06, 2007, 09:34:42 PM
Post by: Kairon on August 06, 2007, 09:36:07 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 06, 2007, 09:39:33 PM
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Honestly, I was amazed a sequel was even made. Shenmue 1 cost so much money to make, it was a heavy loss for Sega.
Sega still is stupid.
Post by: Kairon on August 06, 2007, 09:42:14 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 06, 2007, 09:43:42 PM
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If they're not careful, they'll go the way of Atari. Or has that already happened?
Well if they made some good games, like oh, SHENMUE ON WII!
Post by: Mashiro on August 06, 2007, 09:44:47 PM
I don't understand, for example, WHY Shenmue II came out on Xbox and not PS2 which had a much larger user base.
I don't understand why Sega released a PAL version of Shenmue II for DC and then not release a US version.
Lots of dumb decisions.
Post by: SixthAngel on August 06, 2007, 09:58:55 PM
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Oh yeah Sega is still very stupid.
I don't understand, for example, WHY Shenmue II came out on Xbox and not PS2 which had a much larger user base.
I don't understand why Sega released a PAL version of Shenmue II for DC and then not release a US version.
Lots of dumb decisions.
I just assumed that MS game them a ton of money to bring all their franchises to the xbox when it first came out. The Dreamcast had just died and the owners needed a new home, and the xbox could certainly use any support that would gain attention. I had an xbox and that is the only reason I can see why Shenmue 2, Jet Set Radio Future, and Panzer Dragoon all came out for only the xbox early in its life. Sega really needed money and ms gave them a fast pay check and a more guaranteed paycheck even if it hurt their franchises in the long run. I even imagine that ms threw them a check to not release Shenmue DC stateside in order to get fans to buy the xbox, it helped push me into getting one.
I want a Jet Set Radio with wiimote painting ability NOW!!
Post by: Mashiro on August 06, 2007, 10:06:29 PM
What's BS is NHL2k2 came out in Feb. 2002 for DC in America and Shenmue was published in Nov 2001 in Europe. Would it really have been that hard to distribute the game in NA for devoted fans of the platform and series? A slap in the face IMHO.
Oh and yes JSR needs to come out on Wii. Pronto.
Post by: SixthAngel on August 06, 2007, 10:22:12 PM
Post by: Mashiro on August 06, 2007, 10:26:55 PM
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I think the decision hurt them in the long run too because these franchises could have been huge if they put them on another system that was not untested and was successful outside the US. Their games just weren't a very good match for the shooter centric people MS seemed to be gunning for. If they decided to make all their games for just the ps2 or even cube it would have been better because the fans would have realized where to go for Sega games instead of diluting their userbase across platforms. Sega was never all that good with money and they were in the red so I think the quick dollar signs blinded their foresight. Especially the Shenmue decision was a slap in the face to fans. What happened seems very obvious to me and it is another thing that hurt them in the long run by chasing away supporters for the quick cash.
I agree 100%.
Especially about the core audience thing with Xbox. I said it on these forums and you echo the sentiment in the above statements. It really hurt them in the long run as you said.
Post by: SixthAngel on August 06, 2007, 10:57:31 PM
Gunvalkyrie was a game basically designed with the wii remote in mind years before it came out. If Sega still has these guys on staff they can easily pull off greatness on the Wii given the chance.
Post by: couchmonkey on August 07, 2007, 04:41:54 AM
