Post by: Nile Boogie on August 02, 2005, 12:54:40 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on August 02, 2005, 01:07:20 PM
And is there any benefit to this feature? One button that acts like two is neat but is nothing better than two buttons. Two buttons is arguably BETTER because it's very easy to tell which button is which. Here you have to guess. It's a good marketing bullet point but nothing worth giving a sh!t about in real life.
The 360 scrollbar is really cool though.
I don't really see any of this having any use for a controller. Well not a GOOD controller anyway. Nintendo could always just have a blank slate instead of buttons that figures out where you pushed but that would provide no advantage and would just be an inferior gimmick. I can't see the buttons or feel them. I'm much less intimidated now.
Though just because I don't think Nintendo should use any of these ideas doesn't mean they won't. I suppose it's possible. They're doing something different.
Post by: stevey on August 02, 2005, 03:45:27 PM
Post by: Nile Boogie on August 02, 2005, 04:01:31 PM
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Originally posted by: stevey
No! The mac min is weak and is for girly-men that like preaty computer over a good computer! That play with ponys and like to put on a dress!
(Yosemite Sam's Voice) "You sir have insulted me. Would you like to discuss this matter further over pistols at dawn".
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 02, 2005, 04:36:33 PM
Post by: Rhoq on August 03, 2005, 04:54:21 AM
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Originally posted by: stevey
No! The mac min is weak and is for girly-men that like preaty computer over a good computer! That play with ponys and like to put on a dress!
The Mac mini is great little machine for people just entering the Macintosh world. I would probably never own one due to it's limitations - but it can't be beat for it's price. I am perfectly happy with my PowerMac 1.25GHz G4 MDD tower. I've never been a fan of Windows and have never owned a non-Apple machine.
Apple's introduction of the "Mighty Mouse" yesterday, is the second phase of their new aggressive attempt at gaining marketshare (the Intel annoucement was the the first). BIG things are coming from Apple. Steve Jobs is god. :lol:
Post by: Pale on August 03, 2005, 05:06:03 AM
Post by: stevey on August 03, 2005, 11:06:59 AM
How dare you! REGGIE
IS GOD GOD AND BILL GATE/steve jobs IS SATIN!!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 03, 2005, 11:15:40 AM
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Originally posted by: stevey
Steve Jobs is god. :lol:
REGGIE IS GOD GOD AND BILL GATE/steve jobs IS SATIN!!!
I had some satin sheets once, there were pretty nice and very smooth, made me not want to get out of bed sometimes.
But if you are saying that Steve Jobs is satin are you saying that he is smooth like silk? Is that new slang?
cause the Mac designs are really smooth, aesthetically and literally.
reminds me of the other day when this rasta lookin guy said he wanted so go smoke a pole, I knew he was talkin about a blunt, but when you smoke a pole it usually refers to something else I'm in California near San Francisco
Post by: Nile Boogie on August 03, 2005, 12:39:16 PM
Post by: Renny on August 03, 2005, 04:23:35 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 03, 2005, 07:38:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Renny
Anyone else watch "Austin Stories"? No? Just askin'....
What are the "Austin Stories" & why do you ask?
Post by: wandering on August 03, 2005, 11:58:17 PM
I could definitely see the big N making a controller that has 4 face buttons which could essentially become one giant button for certain games.
Post by: stevey on August 04, 2005, 04:54:33 AM
Post by: Renny on August 04, 2005, 09:15:49 AM
Post by: jasonditz on August 04, 2005, 08:49:48 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
What indicates a click for this mouse? Will resting your finger on the button count? I rest my fingers on the mouser buttons all the time and occasionally tap them without clicking them.
And is there any benefit to this feature? One button that acts like two is neat but is nothing better than two buttons. Two buttons is arguably BETTER because it's very easy to tell which button is which. Here you have to guess. It's a good marketing bullet point but nothing worth giving a sh!t about in real life.
It operates the same as the Apple optical "no button" mouse, so no... resting your finger on it will not count as a click.
One obvious benefit is that one could have the mouse behave as a vanilla one-button mouse without having the user confused by extra buttons that don't do anything. For new users that's a BIG deal, the second button psyches them out and they sit there all day asking "left click or right click?" This way they can become comfortable with a one button system and be introduced to the idea of multiple buttons later, when they're ready.
Besides the Gee-Whiz factor, it seems to be a solid mouse with some compelling features for a competitive price. I've got one on order, so I can say for sure better when it actually arrives.
Post by: Ian Sane on August 04, 2005, 09:16:53 PM
Oh God. Do these same people have difficulty with driving a car? Left pedal for brake or right pedal? Oh no this car has a THIRD pedal. I'm f*cked.
There comes a point where it's just "if you can't get this, f*ck off". We keep talking about making things less intimidating because that's what Nintendo says they want to do so we keep going in that direction ourselves with our controller suggestions. I think we have to ask if this is even necessary. Some people are just DUMB and if they don't get how to play a game, tough sh!t. It seems really unfair for OUR games to be comprimised for people like this. It's bad enough that the Rev controller might lose some important functionality because of this issue (which I feel is a manufactured problem, surely the Dualshock wouldn't be the most popular controller ever built if this was a big deal). But to take it to this level where we're not even showing buttons on the controller face is ridiculous. That would be making a controller for people intimidated by the NES controller. It's just not worth it to go to that level. Such a design would turn off so many serious gamers as well as any person with even the slightest technical knowledge.
Post by: anubis6789 on August 04, 2005, 09:35:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Oh God. Do these same people have difficulty with driving a car? Left pedal for brake or right pedal? Oh no this car has a THIRD pedal. I'm f*cked.
Just Because I do not know how to drive a standard does not mean I am stupid.
Seriously though, that has to be your best post ever Ian and agree with on this subject one hundred percent.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on August 05, 2005, 03:57:52 AM
i have one of those mighty mice on order as well; they better ship that sht before the weekend... I need that before I move into my dorm. I might have made a mistake in choosing the mighty mouse over the wireless one, but we'll see how things play out in the next 2 wks.
Post by: Ian Sane on August 05, 2005, 07:47:33 AM
Actually I can't drive a standard.
Here in BC the driver's licence system changed the year I turned 16 so that new drivers were required to show an "N" on their car and had to take another test two years later to get a full licence. Since I was under a deadline to get in under the old system I learned on an automatic and got my licence the day before the switch. But I'm not intimidated by driving a standard. I have done it before and I get the concept, I just need more practice.The willingless to learn is an important factor. I think it's reasonable to make things less intimidating if there is a large group of people who are trying to use a modern controller but can't get it. But a lot of examples people are giving are to the tune of "oh that looks too hard I won't even try". If you aren't willing to try then you don't deserve to have things changed for you. Being unable to adapt and being scared are totally different issues.
Post by: vudu on August 05, 2005, 09:11:49 AM
QuoteThat's bloody excellent. Ian, you've replaced nemo_83 as my sig. Congrats.
There comes a point where it's just "if you can't get this, f*ck off".
Post by: jasonditz on August 05, 2005, 10:35:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"For new users that's a BIG deal, the second button psyches them out and they sit there all day asking 'left click or right click?' This way they can become comfortable with a one button system and be introduced to the idea of multiple buttons later, when they're ready."
Oh God. Do these same people have difficulty with driving a car? Left pedal for brake or right pedal? Oh no this car has a THIRD pedal. I'm f*cked.
There comes a point where it's just "if you can't get this, f*ck off". We keep talking about making things less intimidating because that's what Nintendo says they want to do so we keep going in that direction ourselves with our controller suggestions. I think we have to ask if this is even necessary. Some people are just DUMB and if they don't get how to play a game, tough sh!t. It seems really unfair for OUR games to be comprimised for people like this. It's bad enough that the Rev controller might lose some important functionality because of this issue (which I feel is a manufactured problem, surely the Dualshock wouldn't be the most popular controller ever built if this was a big deal). But to take it to this level where we're not even showing buttons on the controller face is ridiculous. That would be making a controller for people intimidated by the NES controller. It's just not worth it to go to that level. Such a design would turn off so many serious gamers as well as any person with even the slightest technical knowledge.
I think the whole point of this (as opposed to say, using wireless Atari 2600 Joysticks on the Rev) is that it can attract less experienced people with its simplicity without compromising the experience for the rest of us.
The Mighty Mouse (mine's still not here, but I got to have a look at a friend's) manages to keep Apple's simple mouse design which makes the neophyte user so comfortable while at the same time giving the more seasoned user a very functional multi-button mouse that is definately on par with similarly priced mice from Logitech or, god forbid, Microsoft.
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on August 05, 2005, 06:17:51 PM
Post by: nickmitch on August 05, 2005, 07:32:17 PM
Post by: RABicle on August 06, 2005, 02:35:03 AM
QuoteI will stab you.
No! The mac min is weak and is for girly-men that like preaty computer over a good computer! That play with ponys and like to put on a dress!
If anything NileBoogie the Gamecube was based on the G3cube
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 06, 2005, 02:39:04 AM
Post by: stevey on August 06, 2005, 04:19:38 AM
If someone need to ask that than they need to be put down to sleep! left click eveything right click for menu, god do you mac user need to ask do I use left foot or right foot when walking or do you crawl like the baby you are!
edit: is it better?
Post by: KDR_11k on August 06, 2005, 06:20:34 AM
"if someone need to ask that than they need to be put down to sleep left eveything and right click for menu god do tou mac use need to ask left foot or right foot when walking or do you crawl like the baby you are."
English, motherf-er, do you speak it?
Post by: nickmitch on August 06, 2005, 09:46:04 AM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Danger Mouse was way cooler than Mighty Mouse.
Yeah, but he didn't have the aliteration of Mighty Mouse. Then there's Jerry and how he was so adorable and abusive at the same time.
Post by: stevey on August 06, 2005, 09:51:59 AM
wait jerry the mouse isn't he tom.
Post by: nickmitch on August 06, 2005, 09:59:19 AM
And wasn't the dog's name Rex? I'm not so sure. . .
Post by: jasonditz on August 06, 2005, 12:49:57 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Copying Apple on anything except UIs is a step backwards. Hell, the Gamecube is probably more powerful for gaming than that "Mac Mini" junk. The Mighty Mouse apparently uses some fancy sensors to detect left or right click, unfortunatly they fail if you don't hold your fingers above the mouse except when you want to click the respective button. And clicking both buttons won't work, either. The mouse doesn't report a press of the left or right thumb button individually, it considers both one button. Say what you will about Microsoft but they build much better mice (and other peripherials). I don't think someone who can't grasp the concept of two buttons would grasp the concept of right-clicking not working when they rest their index finger on the left "button". Blank surfaces are confusing. What does different things should be visibly separated. Which is also why I hate stealth games, there's no indicators showing where you can and can't go.
"if someone need to ask that than they need to be put down to sleep left eveything and right click for menu god do tou mac use need to ask left foot or right foot when walking or do you crawl like the baby you are."
English, motherf-er, do you speak it?
The Mac Mini is actually a relatively powerful system. I don't know how satisfying the game experience is if bought the cheapest of the first iteration... but any of the ones you can buy now will play a much better game of Halo than an Xbox will.
Also, where did you try the Mighty Mouse? The one I saw didn't do anything when you rested your hand on it... did they maybe make a different version for people who want to bash Apple?
Post by: IceCold on August 06, 2005, 07:45:08 PM
(Not wrong thread - I wouldn't dare call my Nintendog that)
Post by: KDR_11k on August 06, 2005, 09:20:12 PM
Post by: nickmitch on August 07, 2005, 07:18:21 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Wasn't it Brutus? No, wait, Spike!
(Not wrong thread)
But of cource! It was on his bowl! And dog house. . .I think. . .
Post by: jasonditz on August 08, 2005, 08:09:39 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
jason: I read a review. Resting your hands on it doesn't do anything by itself but it uses a heat sensor to determine whether you clicked left or right when you click. Resting your left finger on the mouse while trying to click with the right "button" will result in a left click. Plus that mouse costs 50$, a ripoff for a mouse with such flaws, less than five buttons AND no wireless.
The scroll ball probably adds to the cost, as does the brand... Apple stuff ain't cheap, but it usually lasts a lot longer than the stuff you can buy at OfficeMax for like $5 after mail in rebate.
I'll have to take your word that the heat sensor does all these horrible things since I don't have one of the mice here with me... but when I was using one the other day I sure didn't notice the described problem...
Post by: KDR_11k on August 08, 2005, 10:12:25 AM
Meh, considering I use all seven buttons on my mouse when playing Battlefield 2 a four button mouse doesn't satisfy me, no matter what.
Post by: ShyGuy on August 08, 2005, 03:06:07 PM
Post by: jasonditz on August 08, 2005, 04:34:01 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I don't know about OfficeMax but both Microsoft and Logitech build fairly durable stuff.
Meh, considering I use all seven buttons on my mouse when playing Battlefield 2 a four button mouse doesn't satisfy me, no matter what.
I can't speak for Microsoft, but Logitech mice are good, that's what i'm using right now. Its got five buttons and a scroll wheel, but I never really use more than three.
Some users are going to use all the buttons on the mouse no matter how many there are... 99% of computer users never use more than two buttons and a scroll wheel. A good chunk of Apple's customers seem perfectly happy with the single button mouse. Personally I'm not interested in the number of buttons past three, its the very nifty scroll ball on the top that got me interested. Near as I can tell, there's nothing at all like that in the same price range.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 09, 2005, 11:18:26 AM
Post by: Artimus on August 09, 2005, 11:25:15 AM
Post by: jasonditz on August 09, 2005, 11:48:50 AM
I'm better for usability Photoshop benefits a lot more from that scrollball than it would from a 5th, 6th, and 7th button.
Post by: Rhoq on August 09, 2005, 12:14:40 PM
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Originally posted by: jasonditz
The Mighty Mouse (mine's still not here, but I got to have a look at a friend's) manages to keep Apple's simple mouse design which makes the neophyte user so comfortable while at the same time giving the more seasoned user a very functional multi-button mouse that is definately on par with similarly priced mice from Logitech or, god forbid, Microsoft.
So you've had the opportunity to play around with the Mighty Mouse, then? The scrollball looks like a nice feature - but the overall design of the mouse look a bit too awkward for me.
I don't know - I've been using a Logictech MX-300 since OS9 and to be honest with you, I don't think I could ever bring myself back to using an Apple Pro Mouse. When I bought my PM G4 (MDD) I didn't even bother removing the plastic from the "Pro" mouse that shipped with the machine. I still have it at home, sitting in a box somewhere. The Mighty Mouse is a definite step in the right direction, but I'm still not persuaded to buy one...yet.
Jason, I'd love to hear (read) your impressions once you receive yours.
Post by: jasonditz on August 09, 2005, 12:21:18 PM
I'm using an MX-310 on this system, but when I take my powerbook somewhere I use one of the Pro Mice on that, I don't really miss the second button that much.
Post by: Rhoq on August 09, 2005, 12:24:42 PM
I have been an Apple user for almost 20 years (after I stopped using my Commodore 64, I became interested in Macintosh). In my adult life, I have never owned a non-Apple computer and never will.
I find that most Mac bashing comes from people who have never even used a Mac and those that have, hadn't since System 7 or 8.
MacOS-X is light years ahead of Windows. Tiger (MacOS-X v10.4) already contains many of the features that have been stripped out of the forthcoming Windows Vista and Leopard (MacOS-X v10.5) will be released around the same time as "Vista" and will have (potentially) hundreds more additional features that will take Microsoft another 5 years to "adopt" for their OS.
Post by: stevey on August 09, 2005, 02:19:37 PM
HOW DARE YOU CALL NINTENDO AND APPLE THE SAME! SONY IS MORE LIKE APPLE THAN NINTENDO. NINTENDO DOSEN'T CARE HOW PREETY GAME ARE, SONY DOSE, NINTENDO STUFF DOSEN'T BREAK LIKE APPLE/SONY STUFF DO! I'M A COME FOR YEAH!I KNOW WERE YOU LIVE!@__@
Post by: Nile Boogie on August 09, 2005, 04:41:39 PM
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Originally posted by: stevey
"The funny thing about all of this Apple/Mac bashing is that Mac users and Nintendo fanboys share so many qualities that it's scary..."
HOW DARE YOU CALL NINTENDO AND APPLE THE SAME! SONY IS MORE LIKE APPLE THAN NINTENDO. NINTENDO DOSEN'T CARE HOW PREETY GAME ARE, SONY DOSE, NINTENDO STUFF DOSEN'T BREAK LIKE APPLE/SONY STUFF DO! I'M A COME FOR YEAH!I KNOW WERE YOU LIVE!@__@
Boy Stevey, that post is so satin, satin I say.
Post by: nickmitch on August 09, 2005, 05:30:44 PM
Post by: Galford on August 09, 2005, 06:24:03 PM
Do we really need one of these here? Honestly, for every one thing a Mac Zealot could say
about MS, a MS user could say the same thing about Apple.
One example, MS brought preemptive multitasking and protected memory to the PC world back in Windows 95. The Mac didn't get it until OS X.
I'm not trying to start a flame war, but there are some very real reasons why Apple has around 5% market in the PC world, and very few of them have to do with MS.
Post by: jasonditz on August 09, 2005, 07:06:20 PM
If we're going to start a flame war, lets at least get OS/2 involved too
Post by: ShyGuy on August 09, 2005, 09:30:11 PM
BTW, OS/2 had the first GUI that standardized using the right mouse button. Win95 later copied this.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 09, 2005, 10:45:43 PM
1. You don't use a mouse for Photoshop, you use a pen.
2. Holding the spacebar enters grab mode which is a lot faster than a wheel or ball.
MacOS-X is light years ahead of Windows.
Except in the one important area of application support. I use Windows for the same reason I use a PS2, superior systems are nice and all but if you can't run what you want to run on them all that superiority is worth nothing.
Viva la OS/2!
No, Rest in Peace, OS/2.
Post by: Rhoq on August 10, 2005, 04:52:34 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
MacOS-X is light years ahead of Windows.
Except in the one important area of application support. I use Windows for the same reason I use a PS2, superior systems are nice and all but if you can't run what you want to run on them all that superiority is worth nothing.
That all depends on what applications you run. I produce music and find that a Mac is best suited for my production needs (aside from the fact that I'm a Mac guy anyways). There was a short period about 2 years ago when my old iMac G3 died (it was tragic, I still have nightmares - true story). Since MacWorld was right around the corner I decided to wait and see what new products Apple would be introducing before I bought a new machine. Since that turned out to be "the year of the laptop", I waited for nothing. In the mean-time, a friend had an extra PC lying around so I used that for about 4 months. I installed both Reason & Cubase on that machine (running Windows XP) and while the applications themselves ran fine, I found the performance to be questionable. There were terrible latency problems with the MIDI connection which really hindered my productivity.
I don't use my Mac to play games (that's my GameCube is for). I use it for music production, CD/DVD burning and surfing the web. I have MS Office X, but rarely use anything other than Entourage and I also have Photoshop, which aside from resizing pix doesn't get much use. There is only 1 non-Mac application which I use frequently, but is not critical - DVDProfiler. For that, I have VirtualPC with Windows 2000 (my favorite version of Windows...ever).
As far as the PS2 goes - I hear what you're saying. Yes there are plenty of games that I would love to play but missed because they never made it to the GameCube, but honestly - I barely have time to play games any more (I had to set an hour aside over the weekend for Killer 7) and buying a PS2 or X-Box just to play the other games just means another system that I won't have time to play.
Post by: stevey on August 10, 2005, 05:27:57 AM
No they both suck balls but window suck less.
"Boy Stevey, that post is so satin, satin I say."
You insulated my honnor! I challenge you to a duel to the death! Pistol or sword at the next dawn! ¤_¤
Post by: KDR_11k on August 10, 2005, 07:20:09 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 10, 2005, 09:01:57 AM
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Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
Boy Stevey, that post is so satin, satin I say.
and the new slang spreads!!
Post by: Rhoq on August 10, 2005, 10:17:29 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Eh, whatever advantages the PPC architecture gave Apple back then will be nullified with the switch to Intel, anyway. Stupid marketing guys thinking MHz is the only measure for performance (they totally bought into Intel's old hype and even Intel wisened up some time ago!) and that they absolutely NEED 3GHz. I have 1.8GHz in my machine and it's as fast as Intel's 3GHz ones. So, in other words, it'll be down to Windows vs. OSX aka app support vs. user interface. And with Apple supplying basically PCs there will be even less justification for their outrageous pricing.
The more I read the comments from Apple's Development Community about the MacTel kits they are using the more comfortable I am with the switch over the x86 architecture. It's about time "Marklar" was unleashed, I'm glad to see it happening in some form. I still think going Intel is a mistake, but IBM did screw them in a way. You can’t claim that the PPC970 is stuck at 2.7GHz citing heat issues and then turn around and give Microsoft 970s running at 3.2GHz for the XBox 360. Did IBM honestly expect Steve to sit there and smile like he wasn't being "F'd in the A" without any lubrication? Motorola pulled the same sh*t a few years ago and look what happened there. Apple reduced them to their secondary chip maker and Steve publicly insulted Moto for a little while.
In that respect, I totally agree with Steve’s sudden change of heart. I also find it funny that IBM recently announced a low power 970 suitable for mobile devices (including PowerBooks)…It’s too late now.
I 110% agree with you about the "Megahertz myth" (now it would be Gigahertz)…It’s been that way for years. Unfortunately the PC community has been brainwashed into believing that system specs are the be all and end all of performance. Not taking into account that the PPC and x86 architecture are so different in the way they process information that the PPC pipeline is a hell of a lot shorter, accounting for the higher performance despite a "slower" clock speed. As a rule, whatever the clock speed is on a PPC chip, it is roughly the speed equivalent of an x86 processor running 75% faster. For example, the G5 1.8GHz machines are equally as fast as a P4 3.2GHz chip, etc.
The good news coming from the developers, aside from the fact that Tiger seems to be running flawlessly on the 3.2GHz Pentium 4s is that Rosetta seems be coming along very nicely and at this early stage in it’s development is running most apps at no less than 80% slower than they would if they were running natively on a PPC processor. Reports indicate that the 20% loss in speed only applies to larger applications and most applications run without any noticeable decreases in performance.
Like it or not, come 2Q2006, Apple is going Intel. I’m sure this means that prices will come down and Apple will be able to offer more competitive price points to consumers. Apple says that you will be able to dual boot into Windows, if you choose to install it on your MacTel machine, though they will not support it. It will be interesting to see what sort of technology will be used to prevent MacOS-X for Intel ("Marklar") from being installed on non-Apple PCs.
Post by: Galford on August 10, 2005, 05:01:28 PM
Ah, OS/2, the program that ran Windows applications better then Windows itself.
Too bad IBM didn't have the balls market it.
About Win95, I forgot that OS/2 Warp came out before Win95 did.
I'm not too familiar with OS/2's history. Does anyone know what version
had pre-emptive multitasking and protective memory features first built in???
Post by: jasonditz on August 10, 2005, 06:27:18 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 10, 2005, 09:21:32 PM
If Apple wants PPEs they can have them. But don't complain when your 3.2 GHz machine is as fast as a Pentium 90 in real world performance. IOW, Microsoft does NOT get 3.2GHz PPC970s, they get an embedded version with a vastly reduced feature set that runs much slower at the same clock rate but is more heat efficient and allows higher clock rates.
As a rule, whatever the clock speed is on a PPC chip, it is roughly the speed equivalent of an x86 processor running 75% faster.
Let's test your 1 GHz PPC vs. my 1.8GHz AMD 64 and see if you can uphold that statement. P4s have a vastly different performance scale, other x86s run faster at the same clock speed. My 1.8GHz AMD64 is as fast as a 3.2 GHz P4 (and I have a hunch a Pentum M would perform similar), give or take a few percent, that's not a feature of the PPC but a shortcoming of the P4.
Post by: ShyGuy on August 10, 2005, 10:00:53 PM
IBM Marketing: 2 guys, a phone, and a deck of playing cards.
Post by: jasonditz on August 11, 2005, 08:29:50 AM
Post by: Chris1 on August 11, 2005, 11:07:04 AM
it says the Revolution will use meqon game dymanics, whatever that means! this all goes past my head, but it does mention the revolution in that pic http://meqon.com/future/roadmap.gif
Post by: Nile Boogie on August 11, 2005, 05:52:51 PM
Post by: jasonditz on August 11, 2005, 06:18:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Chris1
I dont know if this has already been posted, but has anyone seen this http://meqon.com/future/
it says the Revolution will use meqon game dymanics, whatever that means! this all goes past my head, but it does mention the revolution in that pic http://meqon.com/future/roadmap.gif
Looks like its a game physics SDK... I wouldn't bet on it being part of the developer's kit or anything, the site kind of screams "optional addon". It looks like a company trying to use buzzword-compliance to attract venture capital or something.
Post by: nemo_83 on August 13, 2005, 03:08:42 PM
