Post by: nemo_83 on July 31, 2005, 03:35:07 PM
anime
perfect lampoon
streets
cartoon
before you saw these pictures and after
no way
woman
oo, edit: i believe these are fake.
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on July 31, 2005, 03:50:06 PM
Post by: nemo_83 on July 31, 2005, 04:37:12 PM
Post by: KirbySStar on July 31, 2005, 04:50:04 PM
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on July 31, 2005, 04:51:10 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 31, 2005, 05:05:47 PM
*The pictures in the first post don't work for me so this post is in reference to the blog link that was posted above.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 31, 2005, 05:13:26 PM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on July 31, 2005, 05:44:32 PM
Post by: Dasmos on July 31, 2005, 06:15:18 PM
Post by: mantidor on July 31, 2005, 06:29:48 PM
The Icarus one looks so cool, why those fakers are so damn cruel!?
bastards, they are just like hackers and spammers, the scum of the internet.EDIT: I think I already recognize the first one, isnt that the face of Marius from the Diablo II cinematics? It looks a lot like him.
Post by: nemo_83 on July 31, 2005, 06:57:49 PM
Post by: mantidor on July 31, 2005, 07:16:32 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 31, 2005, 08:18:37 PM
Source of FAKE Rev Pics
Post by: IceCold on July 31, 2005, 08:31:25 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 31, 2005, 08:35:00 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
I highly doubt it, Nintendo couldnt have posibly stressed out more that graphics arent important.
You are taking the subject in the wrong context...They don't matter because they offer nothing new...What is being stressed is that a new method of playing games is far more important than a boost in graphical prowess...You're also failing to realize that Ninty seriously understressed the power of the Gamecube to the point that everyone believed it was going to be weaker than the PS2...Remember what Iwata said at E3? When we see the graphics, we will say "Wow."
Post by: pudu on July 31, 2005, 11:39:04 PM
Post by: OptimusPrime on August 01, 2005, 02:48:24 AM
Post by: mantidor on August 01, 2005, 03:01:50 AM
anyway the angel of death didnt announce the Virgin Mary she was carrying the messiah, it was Gabriel. We really need a decent angel's game (I just love the whole mythos behind them)
Bill, Im aware of that, but putting that kind of visuals wouldve mean that Nintendo was putting enphasis in the graphics and not the interface, pulling off something of that quality wouldve require a huge expense in that department, of course Ill gladly eat my words if those turn out to be the quality o Revs graphics
so Brazil... Ive never heard of it until now.
Post by: Pale on August 01, 2005, 05:15:22 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill AurionQuote
Originally posted by: mantidor
I highly doubt it, Nintendo couldnt have posibly stressed out more that graphics arent important.
You are taking the subject in the wrong context...They don't matter because they offer nothing new...What is being stressed is that a new method of playing games is far more important than a boost in graphical prowess...You're also failing to realize that Ninty seriously understressed the power of the Gamecube to the point that everyone believed it was going to be weaker than the PS2...Remember what Iwata said at E3? When we see the graphics, we will say "Wow."
Exactly...
Dammit, I swear the always overly optimistic Bill is the only poster that is worth reading anymore. How do people get so pessimistic when absolutely nothing is known 'officially' about the new system. Everyone wants to be all down on it and it bugs me. Although the constant mailbags are nice to have... they are making me sick.
Do you guys remember when the Cube launched? This site was so optimistic it made me crazy. Billy flying to Japan just to buy one. Pics of him opening the box. What the hell happened to that? Aren't we Nintendo fans? Aren't there still gonna be Nintendo games on the new system? Doesn't the Gamecube already have beautiful graphics? It's not like you look at GCN games and go "Damn I wish the Cube's hardware didn't limit them so much." So isn't any improvment gonna be awesome?
Seriously... can't we just be Nintendo fans anymore? Or do we have to be pessimistic whiners?
Post by: Ian Sane on August 01, 2005, 07:18:00 AM
At that point we knew a whole lot more about the Cube. He had seen the controller, the games, etc.
Plus Nintendo was at a different position then. Sure the N64 was a "failure" but there was an excuse. It used cartridges. So the general assumption at the time was that by going to discs Nintendo was putting themselves on equal footing and thus would regain a lot of lost ground. Well they didn't really and, at least for me, that really killed a lot of faith in them. The Cube didn't flop because of one big oversight. It flopped because Nintendo were fricking clueless and seemed to have no idea what they were doing. When the Cube launched the N64 was seen as an exception to the rule and Nintendo was mostly still seen as a dominant force in gaming. Now with two "failures" Nintendo in last place is more expected. Nintendo has to prove otherwise and in order to do that we have to see more info regarding the Rev.
Post by: KnowsNothing on August 01, 2005, 07:25:14 AM
Post by: Pale on August 01, 2005, 07:27:49 AM
There are just as many, if not more, reasons to by hyped about the Rev. The Gamecube had its downers but peopled ignroed them (small discs, toy took, less power) and still got excited.
Now look at the Rev...
basically unknown specs so you shouldn't stress there...
downloadable classic games which come with guarantees of online presence
a sexier looking machine
a yet unannounced special aspect
backwards compatibility with the gcn
There are much fewer things to be worried about than there even were with the GCN.
I think its just fashionable to be down on nintendo right now and too many people are trend whores.
And why the hell do you keep calling the GCN a failure? It has great Nintendo games and Nintendo made money with it so they aren't going anywhere any time soon...
Again... what the heck?
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 01, 2005, 07:33:29 AM
And I really can't add anything to Pale's post, because there's really nothing more you CAN add...Being cautious is fine, but being blindly pessimistic and proclaiming Nintendo's doom is hilariously absurd...
Post by: stevey on August 01, 2005, 07:58:02 AM
or named Ian. and non of these pic look like a nintendo game so fake.
Post by: pudu on August 01, 2005, 08:34:53 AM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
so Brazil... Ive never heard of it until now.
Yea I spent two years at the Art Institute of Portland studying media arts and animation and spent a lot of time looking at renderers and graphics programs so that's why I know about it. (side note I didn't finish the program so don't think i'm a animation guru...I do know quite a bit though). I'm guessing most ppl on this site would be most interested in realtime game engines anyway.
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Originally posted by: Pale
I think its just fashionable to be down on nintendo right now and too many people are trend whores.
And why the hell do you keep calling the GCN a failure? It has great Nintendo games and Nintendo made money with it so they aren't going anywhere any time soon...
Again... what the heck?
Yep I think you hit it on the money. Everywhere you turn ppl want to be accepted and, therefore, turn to trends/fads. Basically what I've come to realise is most ppl think that if you like anything Nintendo you are lame or uncool. Personally I don't care in the least to tell ppl I own a cube but most of the time I say I do ppl give we strange looks and act like if they continue speaking with me they may catch some of my "uncoolness".
Anyway, this shows how image is everything. You see, it's cool to like Halo, it's cool to like GTA, but it's uncool to like...well...most Nintendo games...because we know they are all games that only the outcast panzies play right?
The best thing about fads is that they are always short-lived. Now...if only Nintendo could put an end to this. They're already doing a lot right. The question is what will the all-to-desperate Ninty haters find this time to bitch about???
/end rant....sorry about that
Post by: Nile Boogie on August 01, 2005, 09:47:39 AM
Post by: BigJim on August 01, 2005, 10:53:25 AM
But anyway...
Is it constructive to be pessimistic about Nintendo's future? Probably not. But as much as people look down on Ian or others for sometimes posting that way, it's easy to say that most of them (including myself) want Nintendo to be on top of the world. Unless the person happened to be a total troll. But Ian is definitely not a troll. Agree or not, he is passionate about his opinions.
The successes and failures of N64/Cube can be debated, and the reality is that neither side is wrong. Everybody is right for their own reasons. Everybody will find ways to justify their position. My feeling is that for as great as many of the Cube games have been, I look more fondly at the N64 than I do the GameCube. The N64 did not collect nearly as much dust as my GameCube has.
The reason why my NGC collected so much dust is because I feel it's had a lack of adequate 3rd party support. Nintendo picks and chooses, and expects developers to come to them. They make their systems for themselves, and it's pretty obvious that they market their system to their own audience by and large as well. Anything that they release that deviates from their "safe" and "star power" titles are token games. Then they can come out and claim they're an "and" company. And that they care about innovation... whatever that *really* means. They've touted innovations that were also DOA, so there is valid reason to wonder why the Rev controller will matter.
If being profitable is your measure of success, then sure Nintendo is great for you. But unless you're a shareholder, I don't know why that matters. It doesn't improve your gaming experience. Sony's SCEA is profitable too. If Sony runs into any problems, it'll be their other divisions running the company down. Debating which is more profitable goes even further off topic. It's not a pissing contest. For all of Nintendo's money, they haven't used it effectively to acquire games that make their system truly well-rounded and for everybody as their PR claims it is. Does anybody really know what just $100 million of that $8 billion war chest could do? I don't mean better hardware, buying a developer, or a massive advertising campaign, but using it as leverage for more 3rd and 2nd party software availability. Instead they sit on it pending a theoretical acquisition, and watch it balloon much faster than it's depleted.
I say this a bunch of times. There's a difference between making games for everybody, and making "everybody" games.
Profitability can be fleeting. Nintendo's marketshare could be halved for the forth generation in a row and no longer be profitable. Then what? All that's left in the argument are Nintendo's philosophy, IPs, and a platform that nobody else cares to develop for because they won't sell in big enough numbers.
If you're content buying Nintendo platforms just for Nintendo games, then you don't have anything to be negative about. The rest of the folks that want more expansive game options have a valid reason to be concerned.
Post by: Pale on August 01, 2005, 11:01:47 AM
To this day I will never understand the lack of third party support complaint. For crying out loud, they release enough great first party games to make anyone happy. If you really want to play non-nintendo games, buy a non nintendo console. The investment is insignificant if you are a big enough gamer to worry about all those third party games you are missing.
/sigh
Edit:
Also, using finances to 'leverage' third parties would be/is terrible for the industry. I'm glad Nintendo isn't following that mentality as actively as the competetion. In any situation where you want an art to flourish, you can't have business practices benefit the huge corporations. The balance needs to be maintained if small companies want to have any hope of success.
Post by: BigJim on August 01, 2005, 12:36:22 PM
Affection and profitability *today* doesn't guarantee profitability later. The point brought up that their profitability could be lost if their marketshare is halved yet again is a valid one. Heaven forbid they ever be forced to pull from their war chest out of necessity just to keep the company running. Obviously if it gets to that point, Nintendo is doing something wrong. If the 15 year marketshare trend continues, the proposition is not out of the question. I just find it odd that their profitability is taken for granted by some.
Leveraging developers doesn't necessarily involve greasing other corporations' pockets and/or stifiling creativity.
And I'll say again that the lack of 3rd party support is also valid. Nintendo's lineup of "everybody games" is NOT enough to make everybody happy. I think it's fairly obvious since the market has been increasingly passing them by. If I'm a RPG fan, the GameCube is not even a real option because those handful of good ones would not be enough to sustain me for the entire life of the system. Options are important. It's not reasonable to expect people to buy certain games out of lack of other options any more than it is to slap an IP on it and say, "There, you're good for 5 years."
Replace "RPG" with some other popular genres and you can come up with the same result -- there are better console options.
As you suggested, buying other consoles is completely valid also. It's become obvious that the market has done exactly that. That hasn't done Nintendo any good either. Which sadly is just a reminder of the point I've been making.
Post by: ThePerm on August 01, 2005, 12:50:15 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 01, 2005, 01:31:42 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on August 01, 2005, 03:05:15 PM
I want the Rev to have enough variety and enough third party support that I'm never bored. I want to be able to always find something to play (and NO I'm not including old games here, I mean REV games not SNES games) without having to settle for anything and not having to love 100% of everything Nintendo makes. There's nothing to suggest that the Rev is going to reach that point yet. We need more info first.
Nintendo's like that former great hockey player that has put up disappointing numbers in the last few seasons. In those situations it's logical to assume that weak performance will continue until we see how he plays in practice and in pre-season games.
Post by: ShyGuy on August 01, 2005, 03:52:24 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on August 01, 2005, 03:59:10 PM
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There are still SNES games I'm interested in that I have not had a chance to play.
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I want to be able to always find something to play (and NO I'm not including old games here, I mean REV games not SNES games)
What? If you're finished with the Rev game, than play the SNES game. After all, you wanted to. You can't play two games at once.
I'm curious though, what do YOU want the Rev to be? I want to know what Nintendo needs to do to make it perfect for you. Once you make up your mind, then you can leave, since it's not coming true, which apparently makes it a failure.
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This is my favorite of those fake pics. A game like that would be an absolute masterpiece. If the Rev can do that I'll be pretty damn happy. When it comes to realistic graphics, if the game looks like RE4 it's realistic enough for me, I don't need any more. I don't need anything else, I'd like to see games move more towards the style of the pic I linked to. It's gorgeous! So awesome ;___;
Post by: nemo_83 on August 01, 2005, 04:03:11 PM
Post by: mantidor on August 01, 2005, 06:37:29 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on August 01, 2005, 07:31:04 PM
Perfect would be pretty damn impossible to achieve at this point. They need at least a generation of recovery first. So that's what I want, recovery. I want Nintendo to significantly improve. More variety, better third party support, less stupid easily avoidable mistakes. The Xbox didn't come close to beating the PS2 but the fans were mostly satisfied and the Xbox 360 is launching from a better position than the Xbox did. The reason for that is because the Xbox started from nothing and things improved with each year. Problems and issues were addressed and tackled. And MS is trying to fix one of their biggest complaints with the Xbox (poor Japanese support) right off the bat with the X360. They're trying and they're letting the fans know and the fans appreciate it. I want to see Nintendo directly address their problems that way, let us know they're fixing it, and then make a REAL effort. Not the usual Nintendo "we'll release one mature game, not market it at all, and call it a day" half-assed effort. I want a real effort.
Nintendo should be in a better position to launch from with the Rev followup. I want to see things getting better. Nintendo doesn't have to be number one with the Rev but they have to look like someday they CAN be number one.
I want to feel that Nintendo is doing everything they can to make things better. Right now I feel like I have to work too much to be a Nintendo fan. I have to put up with a lot of crap to really reap the benefits of owning a Nintendo console. Patience and tolerance shouldn't be requirements. It should be totally effortless to be a Nintendo fan.
Post by: KnowsNothing on August 01, 2005, 07:44:05 PM
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It should be totally effortless to be a Nintendo fan.
It is.
Post by: Nile Boogie on August 01, 2005, 08:45:15 PM
I could care less about the perception of what Nintendo is and there image as long as I am happy with the content of my product (GameCube). I may be alone in this but I don't want Nintendo to become number one. They satisfy my gaming needs whole heartedly and I like the the fact that not everyone thinks Nintendo is "cool". Number one implies mainstream and this ain't 1987 anymore, mainstream "anything" almost always goes bad. Let Sony stay number one and I shall use them as I see fit, hot 3rd party gaming. Nintendo regaining the number one spot is not as important as making fewer mistakes. The days of having only one console are long gone for the hard core gamer. Plain and simple.
Failure? Arguably 9 of the top 15 games this gen. have been on GameCube. (Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4, Metal Gear Solid 2 & 3, Madden 2004, Viewtiful Joe, Prince of Persia, Soul Calibur II, Wind Waker, Super Smash Bros. Melee. Eternal Darkness, Halo, KOTOR, God of War and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City) and it can be considered a failure? From who's view? Not this gamers. Sprite had a slogan for this back in the day.
Being a Nintendo fan is no different the being a fan of any sports team. So either ride with the team or get run the F--- over. Don't get in the way. Every great franchise goes through a few bad seasons, even the greatest teams suck for years at a time but do real fans jump ship after thier team don't make the playoffs?
Post by: Ian Sane on August 01, 2005, 09:08:45 PM
Matter of opinion. I feel they've improved on some things but in general have gotten worse.
And I don't give a sh!t if Nintendo is cool. I just want more variety and options in the lineup and less stupid mistakes that either deny me of options or lose third party support. I don't want Nintendo to be number one for bragging rights or to be cool. I want them to strive for number one so that they get more third party support which means more options and more variety. It also means rental stores having a decent selection of games.
Post by: Rancid Planet on August 02, 2005, 01:06:10 AM
Now if you'll excuse me I have to run windows on my computer while washing my car windows and then go jump out of a window with a big green X on my head.
This is Rancid Planet, signing off.
P.S. Nintendo is so gai that it has sex with other gai things while watching the teletubbies suck each other off.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 02, 2005, 01:18:20 AM
.........Well what are all of you waiting for, I said stat!!!!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 02, 2005, 03:24:29 AM
NAROKATH...
SANTAK...
PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON...
XEL'LOTHATH!!
~~~~~
Is it working?
Post by: nemo_83 on August 02, 2005, 01:52:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
uhhh uhhhh
NAROKATH...
SANTAK...
PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON...
XEL'LOTHATH!!
~~~~~
Is it working?
I feel like such a geek for understanding that.
Post by: nemo_83 on August 02, 2005, 01:56:13 PM
I've tried to convince people that the Cube was not a failure, that it was a financial success. It has contributed to Nintendo's profits well for the past few years, but it could have been better if they had recieved the third party support the PS2 did. Personally I find that the Cube had more games worth buying this gen, but beyond those there just wasn't much, especially this year.
In the words of a Sony fanboy. "Nintendo better be working on a lot of REV games because they sure as hell aren't making any Cube games."
Post by: Rancid Planet on August 02, 2005, 08:14:18 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
uhhh uhhhh
NAROKATH...
SANTAK...
PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON...
XEL'LOTHATH!!
~~~~~
Is it working?
And people wonder why I say that the PGC forums are where TRUE Nintendo fans lurk. heh.
And yeah thanks, that worked I think. Next time I go to PlanetXbox I'll remember to enchant myself with shield.
But you know, I still have this urge to beat the crap out of Steve Jobs. Eh, I'll get it out of my system by playing the most Nintendo-like game released this gen. Pikmin! And I'll do it for three hours in a row. That's right I'll beat the whole game! OOOOh burn!
Post by: RABicle on August 11, 2005, 03:24:01 AM
QuoteSteve Jobs is a man amoung men, he would devastate you or anyone else bar Reggie.
I still have this urge to beat the crap out of Steve Jobs
Post by: Rhoq on August 11, 2005, 04:18:54 AM
Post by: stevey on August 11, 2005, 04:31:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Rancid Planet
Well, I'll tell you this. I've been on the PlanetXbox forums for the last 48 hours STRAIGHT! And it is now obvious to me that we need not worry about the Rev's graphic capabilities. Because The Rev isn't even going to play games. It's a toaster, it will make toast. Think about it. Small, light, doesn't consume much power. Gives gamers something they'll like (everyone likes toast) and a cheap price. Plus by using bread as software they will seriously cut down on prices. Nintendo are a FOR PROFIT company and the people of this world will ALWAYS need hot pop tarts.
Now if you'll excuse me I have to run windows on my computer while washing my car windows and then go jump out of a window with a big green X on my head.
This is Rancid Planet, signing off.
P.S. Nintendo is so gai that it has sex with other gai things while watching the teletubbies suck each other off.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr The power of reggie comples you the power reggie comples you "holy water" be gone evil gost of gates! "holy water" and toaster do take lots of power 50 lights = toaster
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
uhhh uhhhh
NAROKATH...
SANTAK...
PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON PARGON...
XEL'LOTHATH!!
~~~~~
Is it working?
danger danger geek level = 10 "larper"
Post by: nickmitch on August 11, 2005, 06:38:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Rhoq
I bet they would make one hell of a tag team.
They could propably beat Hawk and Animal: The Road Warriors. If Hawk was still around. R.I.P.
Post by: Rhoq on August 12, 2005, 02:10:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Rhoq
I bet they would make one hell of a tag team.
They could propably beat Hawk and Animal: The Road Warriors. If Hawk was still around. R.I.P.
Who needs Hawk when you have Heidenreich? (Yes, I am only kidding)
I stongly encourage everyone here that is a fan of wrestling to pick up the 'Road Warriors' DVD that the WWE released a few months ago. It continues their recent trend of very thought out and well put togehter documentaries. The best part of all is that the the LOD's WWF years are only discussed during the last half hour of the near 2 hour documentary. The first 85 minutes are spent discussing mainly the AWA, various NWA territories and, later, WCW.
Post by: The Omen on August 12, 2005, 12:14:56 PM
For me, I am usually happy with just my Nintendo console. I often have the urge to play other games I know will never see the light of day on a Nintendo system, but I can just wait a few months and play alot of them on my PC. Am I happy with the cube? Not ecstatic. I had more fun with my N64 than my cube. But I was younger then, also, so maybe that plays into it. Am I upset about marketshare? Hell yes, because I want Nintendo to get the respect from everyone they deserve. Am I happy that they're financially successful? Yes, of course. It allows them to stay in the business. Now, am I going to buy the Revolution? Absolutely. But having the Xbox 360 come out so early, that kind of enables me to splurge on it first, then buy the Rev later. And for the first time, I may actually own two consoles. And I don't really feel bad about that.
Post by: nickmitch on August 12, 2005, 05:27:23 PM
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Originally posted by: RhoqQuote
Originally posted by: TVmanQuote
Originally posted by: Rhoq
I bet they would make one hell of a tag team.
They could propably beat Hawk and Animal: The Road Warriors. If Hawk was still around. R.I.P.
Who needs Hawk when you have Heidenreich? (Yes, I am only kidding)
I stongly encourage everyone here that is a fan of wrestling to pick up the 'Road Warriors' DVD that the WWE released a few months ago. It continues their recent trend of very thought out and well put togehter documentaries. The best part of all is that the the LOD's WWF years are only discussed during the last half hour of the near 2 hour documentary. The first 85 minutes are spent discussing mainly the AWA, various NWA territories and, later, WCW.
If it's on WWE 24/7, then I'm doing that because it's a lazier idea.
Post by: IceCold on August 12, 2005, 08:06:53 PM
The one I absolutely like the most is the Chris Benoit Hard Knocks DVD. Wow, what a compilation. You would, of course, expect nothing less than those top quality matches from Benoit, but it's still a great retrospective. How I long for the day when there aren't any of these bullsh!t angles and skits, and there can just be Benoit-Angle type matches. Unfortunately, that is never going to happen, so I'll need to keep ordering PPVs to avoid the garbage.
Post by: Ian Sane on August 12, 2005, 09:32:15 PM
One thing that annoys me though is that the Owen Hart tribute match has commercial breaks. Uncut footage exists, I know because I have a copy, so they should have put the whole thing on. At that time Nitro had a special commercial-free satelite feed. This is a complaint in general for all WWE DVDs that have TV matches on them. The WWE films during commercial breaks. We know because they often show replays of what we missed after the break. So why not put the full match on the DVD? Sure the commentary will be quiet for a few minutes during that time but that's minor. The New Japan Benoit matches have Japanese commentary that most of the buyers won't understand. We can handle a few minutes of silence for a full match.
I don't have the Road Warriors DVD for one reason, the Road Warriors were involved in only about two classic matches in their career (Canadian Stampede 10-man Tag & first ever Wargames) and neither match is on the DVD. I'm not going to pay money to see a bunch of talentless stiffs no sell everything.
The best WWE DVD by far is the Ric Flair one. Aside from the Dusty Rhodes match (Dusty is so bad that he's the only guy to not have good matches with Ric Flair in his prime), the Sting match, and the Triple H match everything is ***** must see stuff. Disc 2 is the greatest compilation of wrestling matches EVER. The only problem is that Flair has been in so many classics that one collection isn't enough. We need a part two. I bought the 80s DVD to get the Chi-Town Rumble match. There's still WarGames 87 and 91, the Luger matches, other Windham matches, the Savage feud, the iron man match with Bret Hart, the revival with Steamboat in 94, etc.
There is one DVD set that could top Flair's and that's Bret Hart's which is currently being worked on.
The current WWE product is unwatchable horsesh!t right now but the DVD compilations rule.
Post by: MysticGohan24 on August 12, 2005, 11:43:41 PM
I can't even stand Flair, who in his book takes a cheap jab at breat hart, and Bret "explains" about what it's like working with Flair. http://www.brethart.com/comments.asp
Post by: nickmitch on August 13, 2005, 05:30:19 PM
A WWE has really been loosing me. I used to get pissed and call around when ever I missed Raw or Smackdown but now I only watch when I can't find anything else on. I mean, how can the main event be Shawn Michaels and Hogan just talking about their Summer Slam match? And the Eddie Guerro and Rey Mysterio(sp?) thing isn't really that interesting.
