Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on July 07, 2005, 09:06:14 AM
After Rare was bought by Microsoft in 2002, many thought it was the end of their relationship with Nintendo. Fortunately, Rare still releases portable titles, such as Banjo Pilot and It's Mr. Pants. Up until this point, though, no one was completely sure if Rare would support Nintendo's newest handheld, the DS.
Well, now we know. Recently, Rareware.com updated their "Join Us" section with two want ads:
GAMES PROGRAMMERS (NINTENDO DS)
Must be motivated, enthusiastic and skilled in C/C++ to join our dedicated handheld team, recently nominated for a Develop Industry Excellence Award. 3D skills also an advantage in creating high-profile titles for this unique system.
EXPERIENCED 3D ARTISTS (NINTENDO DS)
Good understanding of 3D packages (preferably Maya), strong modelling and texturing abilities, imagination and motivation are all required from anyone hoping to join our Develop award-nominated team in creating key DS titles.
Of course, the question still remains: will the DS serve as a port machine for Rare's earlier classics or will they use the platform for all-new games? Only time will tell.
And thanks to BlackNMild2k1 for giving us the heads-up on this one!
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2005, 09:10:42 AM
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Post by: miedo on July 07, 2005, 09:23:37 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on July 07, 2005, 11:06:06 AM
Post by: thepoga on July 07, 2005, 11:19:25 AM
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 07, 2005, 11:19:53 AM
QuoteYea, while some Rare bashers may comeback and woo hoo this news.... My expectations are pretty low.
Originally posted by: miedo
I can't wait for Grabbed by the Ghoulies DS!
Post by: cubist on July 07, 2005, 11:31:30 AM
Peace Out!
Post by: Djunknown on July 07, 2005, 11:56:35 AM
EA owns the James Bond franchise, so unless EA/Rare/Nintendo work something out, its doubtful. See also the recently released Rogue Agent for the DS (Its not fit to even call this a Goldeneye title...) for further proof.
Perfect Dark is shaping up to be the 360's flagship title along with Gears of war. PD on both Nintendo and Microsoft's systems? C'mon....
Porting the past titles may sound nice, but it feels lazy. The DS shouldn't be a dumping ground of ports; the GBA has that base well covered. They've got some interesting tools and features to play with.
EDIT: deleted nonsensical paragraph.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 07, 2005, 12:08:34 PM
Post by: sikboy1029 on July 07, 2005, 12:44:56 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 07, 2005, 12:47:23 PM
I mentioned this in the other thread, but I will repeat it here too.
It was rumored that Rare was playing around with a DS dev kit a while ago, and that they also had a few playable levels up & running from PD. I heard that this may have also been seen/heard at E3 this year.
Post by: ssj4_android on July 07, 2005, 01:49:01 PM
Post by: joeposh on July 07, 2005, 01:55:47 PM
Post by: Nephilim on July 07, 2005, 02:08:36 PM
KI gold would also be nice...
Post by: Berto2K on July 07, 2005, 02:32:17 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Woo Hoo, I got mentioned on a front page news story!!! yay for me!!
I mentioned this in the other thread, but I will repeat it here too.
It was rumored that Rare was playing around with a DS dev kit a while ago, and that they also had a few playable levels up & running from PD. I heard that this may have also been seen/heard at E3 this year.
your right, it was e3 2004
http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=2122
we told ya, but no one believed it
Post by: JonLeung on July 07, 2005, 02:53:28 PM
Touch-screen C-C-C-Combo Breakers?
Then again, maybe not. >_<
Post by: nickmitch on July 07, 2005, 02:55:45 PM
Post by: stevey on July 07, 2005, 03:14:07 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 07, 2005, 03:24:47 PM
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Originally posted by: stevey
So the traders are crawling back eh I hope this mean there porting the only good game there ever made Killer Instinct.
Somebody grab some rope.........
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 07, 2005, 04:31:34 PM
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Originally posted by: TVman
Is Rare supporting the PSP?
I believe MS said a while back that they would rather support the DS over the PSP since they see Sony as their main competitor...
Post by: miedo on July 07, 2005, 08:18:09 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill AurionQuote
Originally posted by: TVman
Is Rare supporting the PSP?
I believe MS said a while back that they would rather support the DS over the PSP since they see Sony as their main competitor...
And besides, according to Gates, Nintendo is a "niche" company. We can't be any good competition for him
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2005, 09:31:06 PM
Post by: Robageejammin on July 08, 2005, 01:53:19 AM
Being that Rare really made the best looking titles for the N64, a Conker or JetForce Gemini port would sound appetizing but would be disastrous. Its a must that developers make the game compatible with the DS playfield. Like Joeposh said, something like Blast corps would really be an ideal port for DS.
Basically, the DS is not the GBA where you can easily port nes, snes titles at a blink of an eye. it just doesnt work in 3d.
Post by: couchmonkey on July 08, 2005, 10:18:23 AM
While Rare has botched up it's Xbox projects, I really enjoyed Sabre Wulf and It's Mr. Pants on Gameboy, so I'm happy to hear this.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 08, 2005, 12:09:59 PM
QuoteI realize that you are taking about ports, but you make is sound as if 3D sux on DS and shouldn't be attempted unless its something that is simple.
Originally posted by: Robageejammin
Developers better get a clue that the DS isnt a port machine. Mario worked out great and everything due to the simple textures and big atmosphere but more advanced ports like Rayman end up discraceful.
Being that Rare really made the best looking titles for the N64, a Conker or JetForce Gemini port would sound appetizing but would be disastrous. Its a must that developers make the game compatible with the DS playfield. Like Joeposh said, something like Blast corps would really be an ideal port for DS.
Basically, the DS is not the GBA where you can easily port nes, snes titles at a blink of an eye. it just doesnt work in 3d.
Tak a look @ this and tell me that the DS isn't capable if you put in a little more effort:
Look at the Tak 3 trailer but forgive the compression (and my pun in the last sentence
). This should raise the bar on what to expect from a 3D game on DS. Remember that the DS is slightly more powerful than an N64, so the highest quality of N64 gaming should be expected at the least.
Post by: hudsonhawk on July 08, 2005, 12:29:19 PM
Personally, I'm pumped about this; anyone who doesn't think good things will come out of this is blinding themselves with fervent fanboism. Given that they're expected to have titles ready at launch that both look unbelievable, my guess is that MS made the decision to push the Rare games back to the next generation back when it was apparent they weren't going to win this generation (which was a while ago).
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 08, 2005, 01:33:06 PM
Quote"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Originally posted by: hudsonhawk
Shows you how small of a threat they see Nintendo as on the next generation console front.
Using the DS to help topple the PSP and also make DS gamers (especially Japanese) aware of Microsoft Games, is a good way for MS to help establish awareness for its brands, therefore selling more 360's (especially in Japan). A trojan horse of sorts into the Japanese gaming enviroment, selling graphically inferior ports of its established console franchises that give you a taste of what the 360 gonna offer.
The only drawback is that the DS offers free multiplayer wifi/lan and MS has Live which cost money to play multiplayer....
that could be a potential downer for sales of the console version, unless you are already a 360 owner & Live subscriber.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 08, 2005, 11:13:38 PM
That kind of thinking brought us way too many new enemies because "my enemy's enemy" might turn on me after our enemy is gone. See Bin-Laden or Hussein. You really don't want to continue to apply that logic.
Post by: nickmitch on July 09, 2005, 02:27:04 PM
Post by: stevey on July 10, 2005, 06:04:20 AM
Nintendo isn't a niche company like stupid mac and os x NINTENDO IS VIDEO GAMES!
