Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Hooboo on June 29, 2005, 08:57:31 PM
Title: What RPG should i buy...
Post by: Hooboo on June 29, 2005, 08:57:31 PM
I want to get a good rpg to start playing but i dont kow which one. I was thinking Final Fantasy CC becasue i can get it cheap but im not sure. Please jsut post links to a site or tell me of some good games.
Title: RE: What RPG should i buy...
Post by: Arbok on June 29, 2005, 11:10:14 PM
Tales of Symphonia is the best RPG on the Gamecube. Hands down, I was hooked on the game when I first got it and beat it twice in a row (which is a huge chunk of time, considering how long it takes to get through the game). Baten Kaitos is another great one, although if you despise CCG based RPGs you should probably look elsewhere.
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Post by: IceCold on June 29, 2005, 11:58:12 PM
Apart from Tales, Baten and FFCC...
PAPER MARIO!
Phantasy Star Online Eps. 1&2
Skies of Arcadia
Harvest Moon
Title: RE: What RPG should i buy...
Post by: ruby_onix on June 30, 2005, 12:16:34 AM
FF:CC and Four Swords Adventures are primarily multiplayer games.
Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, Paper Mario, and Skies of Arcadia are the best RPGs on the Cube. Skies is expensive. The other three are cheap.
If you want every RPG on the Cube, you can't forget about Evolution Worlds...
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Post by: Toruresu on June 30, 2005, 03:35:59 AM
Phantasy Star Online Ep. I & II has tons of replay value. But if you want a more story driven RPG, Tales of Symphonia is the one.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 30, 2005, 05:28:18 AM
ruby skies of arcadia is 19.99 USD in most stores.
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Post by: Pale on June 30, 2005, 06:13:05 AM
Skies is uber rare. Back when i bought mine a year ago, I paid 60 bucks for it. It's only becoming harder to find now.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 30, 2005, 06:42:17 AM
Yeah it is but my local store has it for 20, I reserved it along with WW back in 2003 so I got skies in January when it came out for 45 (5 went toward reservation).
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Post by: TMW on June 30, 2005, 07:21:52 AM
I would reccomend, in order, Tales of Symphonia, Skies of Arcadia, and Paper Mario. Evolution Worlds is a passable dungeon hack, but that gets tedious after 20 hours.
I suppose I would reccomend Baten Kaitos too...but I'm stuck on a hard boss at the moment, and don't have much love for the game right now.
Title: RE:What RPG should i buy...
Post by: Hooboo on June 30, 2005, 08:47:57 AM
Well i have Paper Mario already so that ones out and i played Phantasy Star Online Ep. I & II and i found it to be very boring, probly just me though. Is there any more?
Im liking the looks of tales and skys
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Post by: Nosferat2 on June 30, 2005, 09:18:03 AM
By all means stay the hell away from Final Fantasy Cystal Cronicals. Its lame and its not really an RPG.
I recently finished Baten Kaitos after 76 hours of gameplay and can recommend it, though its not the best RPG in the world.
Skies Of Acadia is also good. And its not rare. Frys Electronics in Northern California has about 20 of them in stock for 19.99.
Title: RE:What RPG should i buy...
Post by: Hooboo on June 30, 2005, 09:27:18 AM
FFCC is too an RPG jsut not one of the best... still List some more games i still am yet to find the one im looking for.
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Post by: TMW on June 30, 2005, 09:42:28 AM
...I think thats it, really. There wasn't alot of RPG lovin' on the Gamecube.
But trust us. Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia -are- the ones you are looking for.
Title: RE:What RPG should i buy...
Post by: Hooboo on June 30, 2005, 09:52:39 AM
Well then if those are the only two waht are some of the things that make them interesting and fun to play?
Btw there are way more RPG then just those...
Title: RE: What RPG should i buy...
Post by: couchmonkey on June 30, 2005, 10:23:29 AM
Tales has a cool real-time battle system that plays a little like Super Smash Bros. You give your teammates basic orders and they carry them out automatically, while you control one character directly yourself. I actually find it a little overwhelming but it's way faster and (for some people) more fun than traditional RPG battles once you get the hang of it.
Skies...I never got that far into it, apparently you get to start up a pirate crew later on which sounds cool, but I didn't get to try it. You do get to fly airships everywhere, and there are actual battles between the airships at times. The airship battles are fun and different, but I thought they were a little predictable early on in the game. Aside from the whole airship/pirate aspect, it's a very traditional, but good RPG. I actually found the story more engaging than Tales, but I haven't played either game more than 1/4 of the way through.
There's also Lost Kingdoms I and II, which aren't the best RPGs on the system, but the series does have fans. I haven't played it, you're still better off with the other two I'd say. Just felt like being a completist.
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Post by: TMW on June 30, 2005, 10:29:55 AM
I completley forgot about Lost Kingdoms! heh.
Shows how much of an impression they left on me. ===
Another good thing about Tales is that you can have your friends control the other characters, and the game really shines when you have four people all working together to beat a tough boss.
Skies was just the best RPG for the Dreamcast, which is the version I beat. I'm only halfway through the Gamecube version...but the Ship battles are an interesting mechanic, and...while it doesn't have anything that really sticks out, it combines the best of most modern RPG's into a solid, fun, challenging adventure thats better than the sum of it's parts.
And Belleza is hot.
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Post by: Hooboo on June 30, 2005, 10:36:01 AM
hmm well thats interesting, i think i like tales more though, just the look of the game and that interesting battle systems is amking me lean towards it. I ahve played lost kingdoms 1 it was ok but kinda boring, might get 2 though. If theres anything else please share.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on June 30, 2005, 10:44:05 AM
Tales and Skies, by far, are the best on the Cube. In fact, those two and Golden Sun are my favorite RPGs of all time.
The battle system in Tales makes the purchase immediatley worth it. It's not turn-based at all- you control one character, and you target one enemy and attack on a 2D plane. Different button combinations perform different moves. Everything is pretty much customizable, including the different strategies your team mates use (for instance, you can set one person to attack from a distance, to attack the enemy attacking your weakest team mate, and to attack only usuing magic until his/her mp is down to 1/4). You can also tell your team mates to do a certain move at any time, so you still have control over them. It's awesome.
Skies has a more traditional battle system, but it still has a few unique inclusions such as spirit points. I don't want to go into a ton of detail, but there are a lot of different things to try out while fighting. I'm not the biggest fan of turn-based battling, but something about Skies makes it exciting and actually FUN. Plus, it's pirate themed, so it's automaticaly cool. There are quite a number of things to do outside of the story, such as finding discoveries and defeating other famous air pirates (for a reward, of course).
Both adventures are pretty lengthy, and you'll probably get over 100 hours out of those two combined.
Title: RE:What RPG should i buy...
Post by: Hooboo on June 30, 2005, 10:54:26 AM
Well I still cant decide AHHH! its down to tales and FFCC, even though some say its not an RPG it is and its a fun one, at times...
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Post by: TMW on June 30, 2005, 10:59:03 AM
Between those two?
Tales of Symphonia, definetly. FF:CC is best as a multiplayer game, so if you have the prerequisite friends with GBA's, then you're golden...
But I reiterate. Just buy Tales of Symphonia. It's a must have for the Gamceube.
Title: RE:What RPG should i buy...
Post by: Hooboo on June 30, 2005, 11:38:48 AM
I see, well wahts the items system like in tales, and whats the rest of the games like? Just want to know before I put any money into it.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on June 30, 2005, 11:43:35 AM
Other than the battle system, Tales is pretty much standard RPG fare. You have weapons, armor, items, etc all of which you can hold a certain amount of (I think 20 is the limit for most things). There's also food- you can put together ingredients to form dishes that act as cheap substitutes to potions and the such. There's an overworld, and towns, and dungeons, and other things you'd expect to find in an RPG. Tales gets extra points for being absolutley beautiful and for having a few nice anime cutscenes.
Title: RE:What RPG should i buy...
Post by: Hooboo on June 30, 2005, 12:15:10 PM
Is there variation in weapons and armor like say i buy an axe will it look just like some super rare axe that took me forever to find? Will my store bought armor look the same as super rare armor?
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Post by: TMW on June 30, 2005, 12:34:32 PM
Weapons yes, each weapon has it's own unique look. You get the ultra rare type weapon, and you're gonna see your character using it.
As for armor, no. There -are- different costumes you can get for each character, though. My favorite are Lloyds "Beach Bum" and the "Arr, me hearties."
And the only fanservice in the entire game is Sheena's bathing suit costume. Or Zelos's, for the ladies.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 30, 2005, 12:40:14 PM
Armor, specifically, does not affect appearance. Your characters maintain an overall "costume" so to speak. Bonus costumes (extras for fun) can be acquired. The armor designs are generally modest and avoid "shiny metallic wow-factor" (probably since you won't see them on your character anyway). Of course, the rare/later armors have nice protective attributes, so "function" comes before "form."
Weapons, gauntlets, and shields are clearly shown, however, with weapons all having unique designs (plus attributes).
* DO'H! I AM SOO LATE
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Post by: KnowsNothing on June 30, 2005, 12:50:04 PM
Sheena's ball outfit was pretty hot.
Edit: Considering how anal I am about spoilers.....umm, whoops!
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Post by: TMW on June 30, 2005, 12:52:02 PM
It took me a while to realize...but Sheena and Zelos are "technically" secret characters. mayhaps we should tag them, no?
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 01, 2005, 09:04:24 PM
They're on the box, if you're surprised that they join your party you weren't paying attention.
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Post by: Rellik on July 02, 2005, 08:26:30 AM
Personally, I recommend Skies of Arcadia above Tales. Just a fantastic game - despite the fact that the battling is MUCH less fun than Tales, the whole game is exciting with a great, fun, and at times moving plot, fantastic characters, the world is really vibrant and HUGE and really ... I don't know, it's just great. And the music is fantastic as well.
Tales has wonderful graphics, and the plot is fairly interesting, but the dialogue and the way it's portrayed really cheapen the experience. Battling is of course awesome - it's the kind of game that's fun to play more than once because battling is not a chore, it's actually enjoyable. Overall, it's not up to par with Skies... Skies is just unbeatable, really. My favorite RPG - above Chrono Trigger and FF6.
Oh yeah, and I have a Tales of Symphonia question, seeing as the topic has come up:
How do you get costumes? I didn't get any on my first play-through, so I want to get the costumes on my second (it's fairly nice having 2x EXP, so I don't need to worry too much about leveling - more time for sidequests). Are they just Titles that are accompanied by appearance changes, or what?
The Tales of Symphonia system is extremely deep - I feel like I'm missing something all the time. For example, I never cook - I barely have any recipes. And the only combination attack I know how to use so far is Photon Tempest... or Ray Storm later on.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 02, 2005, 12:19:11 PM
Costumes are titles accompanied by appearances, yes.
They tend to be rewards from amusing little sidequests.
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Post by: Galford on July 02, 2005, 10:50:34 PM
Looking for good Cube RPGS...
For single player, Tales and Skies are must haves, each are good in their own way
For second tier, I would have to say... Baten Kaitos FF:CC
And if your absolutely desperate for a Cube RPG try.. Lost Kingdoms 1 and 2 Evolution Worlds Phantasy Star Online 3, a game that is vastly different from PSO 1+2
Haven't played Paper Mario yet, so I can't say anything about it.
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 03, 2005, 07:38:33 AM
Lost Kingdoms (2) is better than FFCC, might not have the graphics and the story is kinda weak but the gameplay is much better. FFCC is just exploiting very simple patterns in singleplayer, LK has at least some strategy to it. LK2 cheapens some parts of the deal but does away with random encounters which should already be worth a lot. Basically, LK2 doesn't superceed LK1, they're pretty different games.
PSO 3 is vastly different from PSO 1/2, yes, but it's not necessarily worse. Of course there's not much in terms of non-combat activity but hell, PSO1/2 was just one big grindfest so that's not much of a loss. The gameplay is kinda nice, though playing hive style as an Ark (TONS of small, cheap creatures) is kinda overpowered as you can't move after attacking and with a hive deck any fallen creature is replaced by another one immediately, before the enemy can move. If you like MMORPGs and their repetitive mindless slaughter of random animals you might enjoy PSO1&2 but otherwise you'll just get bored in no time.
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Post by: Arbok on July 03, 2005, 10:59:21 AM
Yeah, Lost Kingdom 2 can be purchased for dirt cheap used too. Got mine at EB for $10, and it was more than worth that price... unlike the EA Bond games I got for that same price (bleh).