Post by: darknight06 on May 16, 2005, 06:54:10 PM
I hope everyone's happy.
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 16, 2005, 07:13:47 PM
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 16, 2005, 07:36:44 PM
But I suppose it's better that Nintendo's listening to what people want.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 16, 2005, 08:08:12 PM
Paladin, Mario Kart is already a multiplayer focused game so I don't see why online would "ruin" it or anything. I can see your concern over single player focused titles but Mario Kart has never been single player focused.
Post by: Artimus on May 16, 2005, 08:40:13 PM
Finally I can play a Mario Kart with other people often!
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 16, 2005, 09:01:05 PM
Killer-ap? Why, just because it's online? I doubt it.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 16, 2005, 09:08:51 PM
Post by: thepoga on May 16, 2005, 09:25:48 PM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Don't worry Ian, I'm not going to start again. I already thought of that and you're right so that's why I said "I don't care".
Killer-ap? Why, just because it's online? I doubt it.
Because it's MARIO KART you online prejudiced person.
Now I can play against my brother who lives across the country from me. We used to have such a big MK rivalry, but the utter lack of teleportation devices in the new millenium has hindered our play sessions UNTIL NOW! or at least... until it comes out. Another thing that i hope will come out of it being online, is NEW DOWNLOADABLE TRACKS! Hopefully Nintendo will do this. Either that, or include a lot of tracks from the getgo.
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 16, 2005, 09:40:07 PM
Actually, the quote was:
"Now we're talking killer-ap"
Online will not add to a title's killer-appness. I'm sorry... you could say playability, maybe... functionality, options, whatever... but adding online to a game won't make Joe Gamer rush out and buy it in droves, I don't think.
Edit: You would think that about Halo 2, but I highly doubt online is what sold the game, considering (if I'm not mistaken) that it sold about three times as much as the entire Xbox Live service. No, I think Halo 2 sold for the same reason San Andreas did... massive, massive hype.
Besides, if Halo 2 sold that well because of online, then why did Halo 1 sell?
I'm not convinced.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2005, 09:50:45 PM
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
Online will not add to a title's killer-apness. I'm sorry... you could say playability, maybe... functionality, options, whatever... but adding online to a game won't make Joe Gamer rush out and buy it in droves, I don't think.
Did someone say Halo,........... Halo 2? Who said that?
%#&@ing voices in head, GO AWAY!!!!
Post by: Artimus on May 17, 2005, 05:23:26 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on May 17, 2005, 06:43:40 AM
Besides, come on. I think I stopped myself from putting down online pretty well this time... give me some credit.
Post by: Noble~Feather on May 17, 2005, 08:15:40 PM
Post by: Artimus on May 19, 2005, 05:24:11 AM
Post by: Shecky on May 19, 2005, 09:17:03 AM
Gah!! Someone explain how blowing into the DS microphone to inflate a ballon in mario kart is a good idea...
See, this is the "got to use it" problem with the DS, castlevania has the same issues
Post by: Ian Sane on May 19, 2005, 09:23:28 AM
That's not simplifying the game or making it more fun. It's just adding needless busy work. In Mario Kart you push a button and your weapon goes off. It's easy and it's intuitive. If you can't do it you probably can't breathe on your own. This is just making it harder to control.
If this sort of unnecessary junk is in the game I'll wait for a Rev Mario Kart to get my online Mario Kart fix. I seriously think that sort of approach would ruin the game.
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 19, 2005, 09:25:45 AM
Post by: jasonditz on May 19, 2005, 09:58:37 AM
Not every game needs to use every peripheral.
Post by: vudu on May 19, 2005, 11:02:15 AM
QuoteIt's not. Personally, I don't like it.
Gah!! Someone explain how blowing into the DS microphone to inflate a ballon in mario kart is a good idea...
I also don't like it how I have to blow into the mic to get rid of my clouds in Yoshi T&G either. It would be much better if I could just press the L button to do that.
Post by: Artimus on May 19, 2005, 11:43:50 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 19, 2005, 01:05:51 PM
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Post by: jasonditz on May 19, 2005, 01:24:44 PM
Post by: MaleficentOgre on May 19, 2005, 06:56:56 PM
Post by: thepoga on May 19, 2005, 06:59:27 PM
Post by: MaleficentOgre on May 19, 2005, 07:09:29 PM
Post by: Artimus on May 19, 2005, 07:15:36 PM
Post by: MaleficentOgre on May 19, 2005, 07:46:57 PM
Post by: D-Mac Double on May 19, 2005, 08:02:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
You can hop with a button, no need for the feather.
I don't get what you mean by that. The original Super Mario Kart let you hop with the shoulder buttons, yet it was the only game to include the feather.
It was very useful because it let you jump over obstacles or projectiles, and create shortcuts.
Post by: MaleficentOgre on May 19, 2005, 08:11:13 PM
Post by: Polyethylene on July 13, 2005, 09:26:54 AM
More than 30 courses, battle Mode is available for online, Computer A.I is improved and more.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 13, 2005, 09:29:39 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 13, 2005, 09:31:22 AM
My favorite thing about the original was the speed ramp jumps that you could place a green turtle shell on cause somebody to spin out and have to redo that lap.
Post by: vudu on July 13, 2005, 10:33:32 AM
QuoteI assume they mean grand prix when they say co-op. And if this is true, that really sucks.
Battle Mode is available online, but no co-op play
Post by: IceCold on July 13, 2005, 11:04:16 AM
I agree with you for the most part, but have you played 4-player Shine Thief in Luigi's Mansion with friends who are as good as you? Wow, that's an experience.
I don't really mind if Grand Prix isn't online; you can beat it yourself in Single Player; and you can always play Versus online.
Post by: nickmitch on July 13, 2005, 01:49:01 PM
Post by: IceCold on July 13, 2005, 02:57:29 PM
QuoteYea - no Grand Prix because only 4 players can play online. Again, I don't mind that.
4 Player online mode via Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection
QuoteInteresting....hopefully it's implemented well.
Possible touch-control steering
QuoteSo, looks like it will be the usual 4 Cups (16 courses) then 14 old tracks. Nice.
Approximately half of the courses are new
And the GBA cart could be used, but I doubt it, because there are enough tracks etc.
Post by: UncleBob on July 13, 2005, 08:11:47 PM
Post by: UncleBob on July 13, 2005, 08:12:50 PM
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I also don't like it how I have to blow into the mic to get rid of my clouds in Yoshi T&G either. It would be much better if I could just press the L button to do that.
Yeah... or better yet, what if those clouds just cleared themselves and you didn't even have to press the L Button at all?
Post by: KnowsNothing on July 13, 2005, 08:15:48 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2005, 02:03:43 AM
Post by: vudu on July 14, 2005, 09:04:22 AM
QuoteIn MK64 and MKDD the CPU just sat out if three or more players were selected. So that doesn't really mean much.
Yea - no Grand Prix because only 4 players can play online. Again, I don't mind that.
Post by: Ian Sane on July 14, 2005, 09:27:06 AM
Post by: IceCold on July 14, 2005, 06:41:47 PM
Eh? I was talking about full Grand Prix with the maximum amount of players all racing cups, then the winner is the one with the most points
Post by: vudu on July 15, 2005, 09:10:32 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 15, 2005, 09:32:25 AM
I haven't played battle mode with the Gameboy Advance games so I don't know how good those are. The Gamecube although it had the most promising Battle Mode. Or at least the potential for a promising battle mode I think it failed the most. The Balance was horrible and their was only 2 really good battle mode tracks.
Post by: IceCold on July 15, 2005, 08:09:53 PM
Me too, and I said so in a previous thread.
QuoteAh well, w/e; maybe I wasn't clear.
I don't really mind if Grand Prix isn't online; you can beat it yourself in Single Player; and you can always play Versus online .
And Spak, what are you talking about? The balance in the Battle Modes in DD was absolutely perfect. Maybe you are a lot better than your friends, but when I played (we're all basically equal skill) it always came down to the final seconds on shine thief or it was close on bob-omb or we were all at one balloon until the end. I don't know why you think that, but for me, the balancing was all I could ask for, as we were found screaming after almost every battle
Post by: Aussie on July 16, 2005, 09:54:44 PM
can't wait
Post by: RABicle on July 16, 2005, 11:59:17 PM
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Originally shat out by: Noble~Feather
I think it's safe to say that pretty much all multiplayer Nintendo-branded DS titles will be online. Yes, that includes the new Mario Bros.
I think it's safe to say you're an idiot.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
That's not simplifying the game or making it more fun. It's just adding needless busy work. In Mario Kart you push a button and your weapon goes off. It's easy and it's intuitive. If you can't do it you probably can't breathe on your own. This is just making it harder to control.
WHAT? In the same paragraph you compare the simplicty of breathing to that of pushing a button but dismiss breathing into a microphone as hard?
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Please, oh PLEASE let the battle mode come from the SNES and 64 versions...It's been so long since there has been awesome battle arenas...
Oh come on Bill. The n64 had appalling battle arenas. Block fort was so big that it'll take 10 minutes just to find your opponent, that donut one was flat out stupid. And did the squares with openings of the Super nintendo really inspire you?
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Originally posted by: IceCold
So, looks like it will be the usual 4 Cups (16 courses) then 14 old tracks. Nice.
16 + 14 = 30. gba/n64europe.com quite clearly said MORE THAN 30 courses. 30 is not more than 30. Moron.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Still it's better than nothing and I'm sure the Rev version will have even more players (Double Dash allowed 8 with LAN so it should be comparable for the Rev).
16 players, 8 TVs.
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Originally posted by: Aussie
Mario Kart DS is going to ROCK the online world
Lets hope it occupies you enough to keep you from making inane comments.
Now that I feel better, I shouldn't have been so hard on IceCold. What this game should have is an online GP mode. You race against 7 other people and you all earn championship points. It's VS on a larger scale.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 17, 2005, 03:12:43 AM
16 players if you let each one control half a kart. Cool idea. "Hey, I'll drive, you press a button when I tell you to!".
WHAT? In the same paragraph you compare the simplicty of breathing to that of pushing a button but dismiss breathing into a microphone as hard?
Breathing into a microphone correctly so it registers. I don't know about you but I perefer not to pretend I'm taking an alcohol test in public.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 17, 2005, 06:48:18 AM
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Originally posted by: RABicle
Oh come on Bill. The n64 had appalling battle arenas. Block fort was so big that it'll take 10 minutes just to find your opponent, that donut one was flat out stupid. And did the squares with openings of the Super nintendo really inspire you?
Block Fort is awesome, you just suck...
(And yes, SNES arenas 2 (Ocean) and 4 (Parking Lot) were absolutely fantastic...Both were structured so red shells were not the sole means of winning the battle...)
Post by: TMW on July 17, 2005, 08:05:50 AM
I concur with Bill on all points, Rab. =P
Post by: KDR_11k on July 17, 2005, 09:31:49 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 17, 2005, 12:01:29 PM
Post by: Grant10k on July 17, 2005, 06:00:27 PM
The beach map is designed to piss off whoever didn't find the feather.
Post by: IceCold on July 17, 2005, 07:56:33 PM
Oh really? Wow, I actually learned something today.
VS mode is good enough; Grand Prix is basically the same w/ points and more players. You can still keep track of the number of overall 1st/2nd/3rd/4th place finishes, so I don't mind.
And, again, Luigi's Mansion Shine Thief with equally talented players in DD is an experience unmatched by any other previous MK Battles in my time playing MK. It was balanced perfectly, to the point that we had several steals during the last 5 or 10 seconds, and it was always close. The other courses on the GCN version left a little to be desired, but so did some of the 64 ones. And I loved the SNES Battle Mode.
Post by: couchmonkey on July 18, 2005, 01:32:08 PM
I thought the Block Fort was awesome. All you need to do is look at the map to find other players, it shouldn't take you more than a minute to get at them. Overall I felt MK64's track selection was slightly superior, but the thing that really gets me about Double Dash's battle mode is that after six years, it barely improved. Mario Kart 64 had the luxury of being a pioneering multiplayer game, without much to be compared to. The bar has been raised. I look at a game like Timesplitters 2, and Double Dash just looks sad next to it. I realize Mario Kart is not about having 100 playable characters, track editors, and a million options, but six arenas is a slap in the face...it seems like they put almost no effort into them.
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on July 18, 2005, 05:35:53 PM
Don't know if that links been posted anywhere here, but it basically says that nintendo will be releasing their own router. The big part of that news, however, is that it would be a USB router, if its true.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 18, 2005, 09:32:10 PM
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 19, 2005, 11:50:23 AM
Very smooth, although I have never played the SNES original and am less intuitive with the dpad. Nevertheless, I was pulling off slides off tiny jumps and initiating red sparks.
Saw the options for "Nitro Cup" and "Retro Cup", BTW...didnt count the available number and I doubt all the tracks were in there anyway.
So far, I thought the game didnt seem anything special or out of the ordinary...just another Mario Kart game...
Yep, just another Mario Kart, which means I will be buying it immediately come release =p
Post by: IceCold on July 30, 2005, 08:13:54 PM
And the classic tracks will be in exactly the same condition as they were before, but the DS player models race in them. I hadn't heard this before - nice.
Post by: vudu on August 01, 2005, 09:13:57 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 01, 2005, 09:22:29 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 20, 2005, 01:26:05 PM
"...one item added to the Nintendo DS version is the squid character from Super Mario Sunshine. [Gooper Blooper]. Because it’s a squid, it can spit out ink and if you are the victim you cannot see the upper screen because it’s painted with ink for a certain amount of time. But because it’s a dual screen, on the lower screen you have the map so you know where you are and where others are..."
Personally, I think this is yet another awesome use of the dual screen...
Also:
~ 16 courses from old games, 16 new courses, making a whopping 32 courses in the game!
~ CPU bots for both VS AND Battle Mode!
You can find a little more info at Nintendo Europe
Post by: Mario on August 20, 2005, 05:17:07 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on August 21, 2005, 06:30:39 AM
Post by: Pale on August 31, 2005, 11:00:46 AM
Hopping is back! WOOOOO!
Flying blue spike shell is back... BOOOOOO!
Circling red/green shells are back! WOOOOOOO!
Dragging bananas, etc. is back! WOOOOOOOOO!
Well anyway. I had a lot of fun playing and I took a video of the guy before me. I will post all my pics and stuff this weekend.
Post by: Toruresu on September 22, 2005, 10:11:20 AM
Post by: vudu on September 22, 2005, 12:13:39 PM
Post by: Toruresu on September 23, 2005, 03:32:14 AM
I believed it was in October.
I'm a sad, sad man.
Post by: Artimus on October 01, 2005, 09:03:01 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2005, 09:21:43 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on October 01, 2005, 09:24:26 AM
Regardless, a nice plain logo. Mario Kart doesn't need advertising, it just needs to stand out, so that'll do nicely.
Post by: wandering on October 01, 2005, 11:29:56 AM
It's okay, I guess, but just Mario and his kart on a white background? Without even a hint that the kart is moving? hum.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 01, 2005, 04:59:05 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 03, 2005, 06:57:08 PM
Mario is jumping into the Kart. His hand is planted and he is spinning around to land in the seat facing forward. I like the box art, its got style, and it is just well designed. You can actually study the art, and find more in it than just a quick glance.
Post by: wandering on October 04, 2005, 05:11:34 AM
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Mario jumping onto a moving kart would be a little odd, no?
If by a 'a little odd' you mean incredibly awesome, then yes.
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Mario is jumping into the Kart. His hand is planted and he is spinning around to land in the seat facing forward. I like the box art, its got style, and it is just well designed. You can actually study the art, and find more in it than just a quick glance.
...yeah, man, but the white background. What's with that?
Though the art IS starting to grow on me......
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 04, 2005, 05:33:05 AM
The original Mario Kart logo...there was nothing wrong with that, why change it to something a 9-year-old could make in MS Paint?
Post by: Mario on October 04, 2005, 05:36:19 AM
Post by: Toruresu on October 04, 2005, 12:18:19 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 04, 2005, 04:15:32 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 04, 2005, 04:18:35 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 04, 2005, 05:25:08 PM
FAIL
- KN
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 04, 2005, 05:31:46 PM
Post by: Darkheart on October 04, 2005, 05:47:49 PM
Step 2. Use black to white gradient, and in photoshop you can asctually copy the texture of metal and put a layer of that, but im too lazy to reinstall photoshop
Step3. add cheesy CG art of a racer thats not driving the cart and trying to make a cool pose lol (Go toad!)
Step4. ADD logo and ESRB rating
done in 20 mins flash mx 2004
clicky here for completed box art
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 04, 2005, 06:47:33 PM
Post by: Mario on October 04, 2005, 07:35:25 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 04, 2005, 07:38:15 PM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on October 05, 2005, 05:08:07 AM
