Post by: Dasmos on May 12, 2005, 02:46:36 PM
PSP tarnishing the good and respectible name of the GBC!
(EDIT: Changed title as per BlackNMild2k1's wishes)
Post by: Talon on May 12, 2005, 07:42:26 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 12, 2005, 07:56:21 PM
"presto, loads of old, crappy games are playable on your 3D-capable machine"
I think I speak for every serious gamer when I say "F*CK YOU!" If they're so crappy why would anyone want to play them on the PSP?
Post by: Talon on May 12, 2005, 08:03:07 PM
Post by: pudu on May 12, 2005, 08:22:05 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 14, 2005, 09:34:16 PM
http://mirakichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/software/RIN.html
I'm guessing that Genesis is next?
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 14, 2005, 11:53:43 PM
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on May 15, 2005, 06:01:08 AM
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on May 15, 2005, 08:42:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Stimutacs Addict
i'd buy a psp for that and limit my psp game purchases (just to hurt sony, no matter how insignificantly)
...and hurt nintendo in the process...
Post by: vudu on May 16, 2005, 10:27:36 AM
Post by: jasonditz on May 16, 2005, 05:52:28 PM
Of course then you'd have to own the actual carts. But if you didn't own them in the first place, its illegal
Post by: wandering on May 16, 2005, 06:01:55 PM
Seriously, though, this is why Nintendo needs to get an itunes-style pay-to-download sevice for their old games.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 16, 2005, 10:30:56 PM
Post by: Dryden on May 16, 2005, 11:20:40 PM
I cannot wait to hear Nintendo's lawyers when they finish making their case to serve to Sony. This reminds me of the Marvel Comics vs. City of Heroes for their "copyright infringement program". (Which Marvel lost, but still).
Nintendo is so jealously protective of their intellectual property, you'd think they'd fight this one tooth and nail for every penny they can pinch out of Sony.
Post by: jasonditz on May 17, 2005, 03:59:55 PM
The best revenge in this case is living well... fire a couple lawyers, hire a couple more DS developers. Momentum is already going our way, there's no more need to sue Sony over the PSP than there is to see Nokia over the N-Gage, or any of the other also-rans in the handheld universe.
Here's an idea: How about a writeable DS cart (or a DS app cart with a writeable GBA Cart) that allows users to go online with their DS and download GB/GBC roms legally through the same service the revolution is using?
Post by: Caustic Saint on May 18, 2005, 04:30:54 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2005, 09:11:53 AM
and more emulation on the way
PC-Engine (Turbografix) is up and running and a Neo Geo emu is on the way.
what do you think will be next?
Post by: Dasmos on May 24, 2005, 02:00:08 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2005, 10:37:55 AM
anyway....
PSP is almost fully hacked as a loader to play ripped UMD games from the memory stick is about to be available. A group that goes by the name Dynarox has supposedly figured out how to dump games from the UMD and and put them on mem sticks.
Ridge_Racer_USA_PSP-Dynarox
Twisted Metal Head On USA PSP - Dynarox
Lumines_USA_PSP-Dynarox
Gretzky_NHL_2k5_USA_PSP-Dynarox
Smart_Bomb_USA_PSP-Dynarox
Need_For_Speed_Underground_Rivals_JAP_PSP-Dynarox
www.psp-spot.com
Is this another nail in Sony's UMD slot? never need to purchase another game or movie for PSP again.........
I can see PSP software sales shrinking and shrinking even more. looks like PSP will be a popular media device that Sony sells at a loss but doesn't sell any software for to make up the difference.
Bad news for Sony
Post by: KDR_11k on May 28, 2005, 09:37:32 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2005, 11:27:19 AM
Mem sticks are still too expensive (marked up about 50%), so I don't see UMD ripping as too much of a problem for now, unless you can hook your PSP up to your computer directly. But they need to sell their software for PSP or its gonna be a dead system as far as developer support goes.
If everyone continues to run movies and emulate older systems off of the mem stick, and now play PSP games from a mem stick, no developer is going to want to spend money making anything for a system that they can't make any money on.
Thats the problem that I see.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 29, 2005, 02:09:49 PM
Anyone can see that happening, especially because it happened to the Dreamcast.
Post by: nickmitch on May 30, 2005, 06:55:44 PM
Post by: jasonditz on May 30, 2005, 07:54:45 PM
Post by: jasonditz on May 30, 2005, 07:56:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Don'tHate742
Good point.
Anyone can see that happening, especially because it happened to the Dreamcast.
But did Dreamcast piracy really scare away third parties? It doesn't seem like there was any less development for it after the discovery of the CD-R audio track trick
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2005, 02:02:09 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
The same guy that did the GB emu on PSP has now got SNES emu up and running too
http://mirakichi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/software/RIN.html
I'm guessing that Genesis is next?
now the Genesis emu is up and running, supposedly near perfect.
and NeoGeo CD emu has also been released.
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Systems emulated on PSP 1.0
GB, GBC, GBA, NES, SNES, Genesis, NeoGeo, TG16/PCE
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if they also get the N64, PS1, Saturn, 3DO, Jaguar, Lynx, Game Gear, SMS, NGP then that would definately make a PSP worth owning (considering you can also run PSP games from the mem stick).
Can't wait till they crack the 1.5 firmware
Post by: jasonditz on June 01, 2005, 02:57:25 PM
Post by: nickmitch on June 01, 2005, 09:16:30 PM
Post by: jasonditz on June 02, 2005, 05:49:58 AM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on June 02, 2005, 08:29:37 AM
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Originally posted by: jasonditzQuote
Originally posted by: Don'tHate742
Good point.
Anyone can see that happening, especially because it happened to the Dreamcast.
But did Dreamcast piracy really scare away third parties? It doesn't seem like there was any less development for it after the discovery of the CD-R audio track trick
When my friend, who is as casual as one can be, found where to get pirated games, the dreamcast was over. Third party companies pulled support and then Sega reluctantly had to pull support as well.
It's a fact that when a system is so easily pirate-able that even those who rarely play games can play games for free, the system is doomed.
Post by: nickmitch on June 02, 2005, 08:31:04 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 02, 2005, 09:25:39 PM
Post by: jasonditz on June 03, 2005, 09:01:13 AM
I would've thought the N64 download scene would've been more harmful, even though it required the purchase of a fairly expensive piece of hardware. N64 roms were downloadable to even people on a dialup connection. I had one of the devices myself (its actually probably still in a closet somewhere), though all I ever used it for was fiddling with homebrew titles.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2005, 07:26:34 PM
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There has recently been a UMD Dumping utility circulating around. As we do not want to advocate potential piracy, we will NOT be hosting the file or telling anyone where to get it, so please do not ask. Any comments or forum posts that give links to this will be immediately deleted.
This program will dump the UMD contents into a file called UMD.ISO on your memory stick. There are no menus or controls, executing the EBOOT.PBP file on your PSP begins the process.
However, there is no loader for these dumps (on 1.0 or 1.5+ PSPs) so dumping these files has only investigatory and exploratory use
also they talk about the possibilty to un-update the firm ware back to 1.0.
This would be good in the short term for PSP hardware sales and (as soon as they get a loader) PSP game rentals
, but this in the long run is just more bad news for Sony and their oh-so hacked PSP.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 12, 2005, 05:28:44 PM
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CybBlade of our Forums (and iRC EFnet #xxxz) confirmed tonight that PsP-Dev now have a working v1.50 exploit for running "homebrew" or unsigned code from it, similar to what NEM did for v1.00 firmware PSP users.
now they just need to crack 1.51 & 1.52(?)and its a done deal
especially if a loader gets released
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 13, 2005, 11:44:04 PM
PSP Loader up and running
Post by: KDR_11k on June 14, 2005, 01:58:46 AM
Post by: Nephilim on June 14, 2005, 05:51:04 AM
Only 1 game has been dumped too, yet 2 DS games have been dupped
yet people are going overboard on how hacked PSP is....
edit: seem more psp games have been dumped
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 14, 2005, 07:24:35 AM
At one time I downloaded Nesticle, but after a few months I deleted it because I felt bad for downloading games. When you realize how hard it is to find ROMS online, you realize you are practicing and illegal act.
But, with Dreamcast Emulators and Pirating and PC pirating people just seem to believe they have a right to these properties. It really upsets me. And so does this PSP thing. If I was Nintendo I would seriously try to take action against these programs and action against Sony if they don't actively pursue stopping these illegal practices.
I think Piracy is one reason Nintendo is finally pursuing the complete backwards compatability with Revolution. Once you provide the product legally for a fair price it takes some of the piracy away.
But the public perception of piracy needs to start changing, like it has about downloading music, otherwise I see huge problems in the future.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 14, 2005, 08:31:20 AM
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Originally posted by: DeadlyD
Sony arnt dumb, expect to see future games that need the newest update and feature the update on the umd's
Only 1 game has been dumped too, yet 2 DS games have been dupped
yet people are going overboard on how hacked PSP is....
edit: seem more psp games have been dumped
They are actually dretty much just dumping games at will, the only reason no one kept track of them was because there was no way to play them, so at the time it was pointless.
The thing I find funny though, is that while all the games are released on1.8(1.9?)GB umd's only 2 games have hit the 1GB mark while most games are only about 512MB or less.
Sony better hope they can stay atleast 2 steps ahead of the hackers and release Firmware updates on popular demo disk, wireless demo kiosk, or must-have games.
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 14, 2005, 08:42:38 AM
If that is possible it will be impossible to stop this illegal emulation and theft of games. And Sony probably doesn't want to spend the constant money it will cost to always be 3 steps ahead of the hackers and programmers breaking the PSP firmware.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 14, 2005, 08:55:52 AM
Post by: Robotor on June 14, 2005, 09:16:30 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 14, 2005, 10:35:56 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 15, 2005, 05:16:38 AM
Property isn't just the disk and packaging of a game...its the actual game. The intellectual property can be stolen.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 15, 2005, 10:47:20 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 15, 2005, 11:32:11 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 16, 2005, 09:41:11 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 30, 2005, 09:04:03 PM
http://www.ps2nfo.com/
and the first game has been loaded off of a mem stick
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Today the World's first PSP Launcher was released for Lumines. We have already confirmed it works on a v1.50 firmware PSP with the Dynarox USA release of Lumines, however, it currently plays without sound. How was this achieved exactly? Well, similar to the WAB MS Launcher you'll need to extract the contents of the Lumines iSO to your Memory Stick's root directly using iSOBuster or a similar application. When doing this, you should end up with a PSP_GAME directory there with all the game files in it, and also a UMD_DATA.BIN file in the MS root. Then simply install the Lumines Launcher by copying the files to your PSP\GAME directory manually or via the previously-released KXpolit v1.50.
and soon they will make this process very easy, just like all the other hacks.
Post by: vudu on July 01, 2005, 06:34:03 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 01, 2005, 07:41:27 AM
When that happens not only will you be playing all your games for free, but so will everyone else(until a new firmware patch is released)
Post by: KDR_11k on July 01, 2005, 09:33:33 PM
As for the firmware patches, that just means the warez users can't buy new games, they have to warez them all.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 02, 2005, 05:45:00 AM
firmware will continue to be cracked
not that I promote or participate in piracyi do not own a PSP or a DS, but that means that the window is now open for home brew specifically developed for the PSP, and that should mean some very simple (but imaginative) games that should hopefully take advantage of the PSP hardware
Post by: KDR_11k on July 02, 2005, 09:37:02 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2005, 06:04:32 PM
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a new handy tool for people with psp version 1.0 and 1.5 who dont want to upgrade their psp's to play certain games (new games that need versioni X to play)
here the explanation
Version Changer v0.2 for PSP
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Yoshihiro from Wab has released version 2 of the Wab version changer. “This is described as the First Firmware Trick for Games that need Firmware 1.52 to run on your PSP and Cant Run UPDATER 1.52 or 2.0. The System thinks it's a PSP v1.52 ,v1.0 ,v2.0 even if its a v1.5 or 1.0.
Unrar the file and put the Folders into :
X:/PSP/GAMES/
Then follow the instructions on the screen
START : Quit without change
Square : Trick to Firm v1.0
Circle : Back to Firm v1.5
Cross : Trick to Firm v1.52
Triangle : Trick to Firmware v2.0
When is done you can go to System Settings => System Information and Check Your System Version :=) Then launch the game! Enjoy!!”
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the app just maskarades the system version as the one requested, it does not actually update the system with the extra API bits that come with the new versions above 1.5. so if a game actually takes use of some APIs introduced in 2.0 or 1.52 and you try to fool it with this loader then it will plainly crash. now, the API differeces between 1.5 and 1.52 are rumored to be nil, so you may be successful with running 1.52 games. but that most likely will be it. so don't expect too much.
no link as to where to find this firmware trick, but I'm sure its not hard to find if you know where to look
Post by: KDR_11k on August 25, 2005, 09:13:13 PM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on August 26, 2005, 03:05:13 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 26, 2005, 07:06:20 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 27, 2005, 08:22:19 PM
2.0 Downgrader --> 1.5 for PSP
follow the links but proceed with process at your own risk.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 27, 2005, 10:34:03 PM
Post by: vudu on September 28, 2005, 08:41:28 AM
Nothing can stop the awesome power of the Internet.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 28, 2005, 09:07:11 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 26, 2006, 07:23:34 PM
PSP mod chip allows multi flash use and homebrew play
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Forget battling against Sony to get your beloved homebrew on the PSP console, we have received news that a new PSP mod is set to hit the scene called Undiluted Platinum (UP). This mod will act as a flash replacement system for the PSP which allow the use of previous flash updates or custom flash builds. Installation has been optimized to fit entirely inside PSP, this opens up the possibility to run unsigned Homebrew code on the latest PSP systems. More info will be available next week! This is 100 percent real just incase you had any doubts.
PSP is now officially 100% hacked and unless sony can think up a way to reject the mod chip, people will never need to buy a PSP game again(or GB, GBC, GBA, NES, SNES, etc. etc.).
Post by: Nephilim on May 28, 2006, 02:03:46 AM
yes they can, with psp allowing firmware
they could easly make it detect it aka what microsoft did with xbox live
sony could make the modder life very difficult... and I bet they will
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2006, 08:31:53 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 28, 2006, 01:25:35 PM
QuoteI don't think there is much Sony can do to prevent this, since you still have your original flash intact.
Originally posted by: MaxConsole.net
The U.P. (Undiluted Platinum) is a flash replacement system for the PSP™ which allows the use of previous flash updates or custom firmware builds, opening up the possibility to run unsigned homebrew code on even the latest PSP systems. The U.P. contains 32MB NAND flash which is programmable from the PC via a high speed USB connection, using our user friendly software. You may boot the PSP from either its onboard flash or the flash contained on the U.P; the flash which is used is determined by a button press as the PSP is powered on (U.P. flash is used by default, hold L1 to use the PSP onboard flash). Since U.P. provides a secondary flash which the PSP can boot from, it can even be used to restore a PSP which has been "bricked". Every effort has been made to make our flash updater software, which will be freely available for download, both as easy to use and reliable as possible. The software also contains diagnostics which can be used by installers to determine if an installation has been successful or not.
Suggested Retail price: 75 Euro's/ $90 US
Post by: Grant10k on May 28, 2006, 02:11:57 PM
Post by: Nephilim on May 29, 2006, 08:41:02 PM
I still think the a firm wear will be able to detect the item installed, but dunno what it could do
plus?
they said its updated by connecting to pc... does that mean u need to hack the psp case to add the port?
or would u need to take it part if the firmware stops working?
because that point makes it sound like u cant update it by just installing files off the flash
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2006, 10:47:14 PM
Post by: capamerica on June 04, 2006, 02:50:10 PM
Now sure once the Virtual Console is up and running I can see how ROMs will hurt Nintendo, but right now they don't.
Anyway I finally desided to get a PSP for all the homebrew stuff and the fact that most PSP games can now run off memory sticks. I recently got a 1GB memory stick for $25 which can fit at least 2 PSP games at any given time and I have the ability to pick up a PSP for $130. I have no desire to run GBA game on my PSP since I have my DS for that and I love to suport Nintendo. But I really don't plan on ever buying a PSP game. And it would be no hard feelings if the PSP and Sony crashed and burned. If I don't buy games for Sony systems that just gives more reason for my favioret developers to suporting Nintendo more and drop Sony suport.
Post by: Arbok on June 04, 2006, 02:53:13 PM
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Originally posted by: capamerica
Now sure once the Virtual Console is up and running I can see how ROMs will hurt Nintendo, but right now they don't.
Sure it will hurt them in 4-5 months, but pft. I mean stealing from a store that opens next month isn't hurting them right now, will when they open though, but the important thing is that it's not hurting them RIGHT NOW. Can't argue with that logic.
Post by: capamerica on June 04, 2006, 03:14:21 PM
As it stands for me the only way I can get NES, SNES, GB, and GBC games is to go on to eBay. And Soon PSOne and N64 games are going to join that list since GameStop and EB will no longer carry those games too. And don't get me started on how much of a pain in the ass it is to get old games fairly cheap on eBay, I was trying to get a copy of Silent Hill recently and it was going to cost me about $60.
I never understood the whole argument for why ROMs were bad, sure I can see why they are bad for games that are currently on the market but the older games it never made sense.
Post by: Arbok on June 04, 2006, 03:30:45 PM
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Originally posted by: capamerica
I never understood the whole argument for why ROMs were bad, sure I can see why they are bad for games that are currently on the market but the older games it never made sense.
Yep, I have no clue either...
Post by: capamerica on June 04, 2006, 03:42:18 PM
Post by: Dasmos on June 04, 2006, 03:55:27 PM
Post by: capamerica on June 04, 2006, 04:05:02 PM
But if you are refering to a CD or DVD that is no longer in print and is not avalable on a iTunes type servies then yes I don't understand that as well.
Post by: Arbok on June 04, 2006, 04:10:25 PM
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Originally posted by: capamerica
But if you are refering to a CD or DVD that is no longer in print and is not avalable on a iTunes type servies then yes I don't understand that as well.
I see my intent was missed... Just because it's not currently available does not mean that a corperation will never decide to release it. Yet, if everyone figures it's ok just to boot it in the mean time, what would sales look like when they finally do release it?
Post by: Kairon on June 04, 2006, 04:50:47 PM
Par example, I'm gonna do my darned hardest to not ever steal from nintendo.
...so...hard...must...maintain...moral...fiber...GAH!
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: capamerica on June 04, 2006, 05:26:07 PM
Sure their is the slim chance that Nintendo might relese a port in the Future but are you willing to wait 10+ years for it?
Post by: Arbok on June 04, 2006, 05:31:43 PM
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Originally posted by: capamerica
Sure their is the slim chance that Nintendo might relese a port in the Future but are you willing to wait 10+ years for it?
That's up to you, I was just saying that there is a logical reason why it's illegal, even if it's out of print.
Post by: stevey on August 24, 2007, 03:22:33 AM
Time to finally get a psp... [/bump]
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originally posted by capamerica
Okay hotshot, Do you know some place where I can get Goonies II, Ninja Gaiden, Meta Gear, Kid Icarus, Earthbound, Final Fantasy Adventure, Secret of Mana, Metroid II or Super Metroid? Oh or how about DuckTales and Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego, I loved those games.
VC lol
Post by: Nick DiMola on August 24, 2007, 05:51:27 AM
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