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Title: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 10, 2005, 11:15:28 PM
Online Square-Enix games for the Revolution?  Perhaps.

Japanese site Watch Impress reports that RPG juggernaut  Square Enix is excited about Nintendo's wireless online strategy.    


According to the story, Square Enix president Youichi Wada praised Nintendo's effort to create a seamless user experience, eliminating many of the hassles currently associated with internet gaming.  Interestingly, the executive focuses on the Revolution, not the DS.  Wada's statements suggest Nintendo's philosophy meshes with Square Enix's vision of a strong game-network culture, citing the interaction among players in his company's flagship online title, Final Fantasy XI.    


Square Enix is one of the biggest proponents of online play and downloadable games in Japan, and its support would be a huge boon for Nintendo.  With any luck, Square Enix will clarify its support of Nintendo's online strategy next week at E3 2005.    


Jeff Shirley contributed to this article.

Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: Caillan on May 10, 2005, 11:36:49 PM
Didn't Nintendo say they were working with SE on wireless at one point? This certainly seems to make sense.

A big launch title for the Revolution from SE would really help it along.
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 10, 2005, 11:50:42 PM
I had thought the same thing, Caillan!  I figured it was one of many crossed wires in my head at 1am, since I couldn't google it up on the PGC website.
Title: RE:Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: jromz03 on May 11, 2005, 03:44:14 AM
Probably just a good old pat in the back... Before they proceed and make tons of games for the PS3. Maybe at most a mediocre game for the Rev, something obscure and not too offending to Sony.

Now that Sony has a PSP, no reason for them to develop at all for the NRev. Unless the PSP flops, then in that case SE needs to bow to Nintendo's request
Title: RE:Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: Talon on May 11, 2005, 04:18:27 AM
Well at least its a step to improve the relations between Nintendo and Square-Enix.  Besides Square-Enix will support whoever who ever has the largest install base (with the exception of final-fantasy crystal chronicles for GCN).
Title: RE:Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 11, 2005, 05:21:03 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Caillan
Didn't Nintendo say they were working with SE on wireless at one point? This certainly seems to make sense.

Miyamoto leaked in an interview last year that they were working with SE on DS online...
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: SgtShiversBen on May 11, 2005, 09:29:29 AM
I don't mean to brag, but I love this quote.

"not just a portable, not just a console -- it's exactly what we wanted in that it's the birth of a completely new platform."

Sums it up pretty good.
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: stevey on May 11, 2005, 11:01:52 AM
so then it will be ffXXI (21)? Now they want easy step up it took 5 hour to step up ffXI!
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: Ian Sane on May 11, 2005, 11:09:51 AM
"Wada's statements suggest Nintendo's philosophy meshes with Square Enix's vision of a strong game-network culture"

This is big.  Square and Nintendo parted because they had different philosophies.  Square felt that the higher storage capabilities of the CD medium would work well with their games and Nintendo felt that having no load times was more important.  They split and the game industry was changed forever.  With the Cube there wasn't anything to prevent Square from making the games they wanted to make but they already had a perfect fit with Sony so there was no need to come back in a significant way.

But if their philosophies mesh then it could mean more than one Cube game in exchange for GBA support.  Square and Nintendo last had meshing philosophies on the SNES.  This could potentially lead to a real reunion where the two companies are close allies like they were before.  It's really interesting that online gaming could be the issue to draw them back together since Nintendo has been anything but on the same page with third parties interested in online gaming.

Though I don't really want an MMO focused Square Enix so realistically having them even as an exclusive developer wouldn't matter to me if all of their games were like FFXI.  But still it would mean Dragon Warrior on the Rev which means instant-win in Japan which has numerous other benefits that would matter to me.  Of all the things Nintendo could do getting Square back would by far have the greatest impact.

Of course we thought Square was back on the Cube and they pretty much left out to dry so this could mean nothing.  Still anything postive from Square Enix regarding the Rev and Nintendo's online plans is a good thing.  Nintendo can't be totally nuts if the president of Square Enix is pleased with what he sees.
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 11, 2005, 11:49:26 AM
Remember that Square Enix doesn't just support the GBA any more--Nintendo has distributed two of them in North America, and one was developed by Nintendo-funded Brownie Brown!  There's no question that the two companies are getting along much better, especially on the handheld front.
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: Nephilim on May 11, 2005, 02:24:50 PM
maybe we will get a update of FF11 for Rev?
Heck it makes sense since Sony didnt want it and it was made for them.
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: jasonditz on May 11, 2005, 03:17:42 PM
I'm hoping its something a little more compelling than FFXI was. I'm also hoping its not going to be a "for pay" service like PlayOnline.

Not that FFXI was terrible, but I was sick enough of it that after my 30 day trial ran out I didn't keep paying for it.

Title: RE:Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: ThePerm on May 11, 2005, 06:31:02 PM
well maybe nintendo is pulling an ace....i mean sony has had square for years...but nintendo had them for a time just as long and maybve perhaps nintendo convinced square that it has an effect on userbase and can screw over sony just like it screwed over nintendo the first time.
Title: RE:Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: IceCold on May 11, 2005, 07:29:57 PM
Wada mentioned Iwata's comments about only being able to play with gamers you know. Is this confirmed, and if so, will it be very strict?
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: Artimus on May 11, 2005, 07:41:08 PM
I think by 'know' they mean non random matching. It doesn't mean someone you actually know in person. Like we could all add each other here. Probably a lot like MSNM/AOL IM. It's actually an interesting idea, but risky...
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 11, 2005, 07:42:17 PM
Uh no, you will be able to play wtih both people you know and strangers.  The ENGILSH press release says: "when using the service, DS owners can choose whether they would like to play with friends or strangers, whether nearby or on the other side of the world."
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 11, 2005, 07:42:52 PM
Less chance at getting some jerkface as a playing buddy...I'm all for it...
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: Famicom on May 11, 2005, 07:57:26 PM
SE seems pretty hyped about the Rev's potential, so that's a great thing. The 'not a portable, not a console' quote sounds like something you read on the console box.
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: ThePerm on May 12, 2005, 06:11:20 PM
"Wada finishes off on the note of support from Square Enix: "From here on, we'll have to challenge ourselves with content in response to what Nintendo offers. We would like to give strong support.""

from ign...

strong support...sounds good to me.
Title: RE: Square Enix Applauds Nintendo's WiFi Movement
Post by: Truthliesn1seyes on May 13, 2005, 12:31:59 AM
Yep, strong support and "we'll have to challenge ourselves with content in responce to what Nintendo offers" sounds good to me.  You have to think about why would Squere-enix come out of the blue with this statement regarding the Rev so close to E3.  What exactly do they have to gain in making these statements?  Seems to me like something is up and this is just prepping the media for something bigger.