Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Mario on April 06, 2005, 07:03:23 PM
Title: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Mario on April 06, 2005, 07:03:23 PM
Just saw info on this new DS game at Gamespot, and it sounds interesting. I think the touch screen could be used well.
However, when they mention using your fingers for actions on the touch screen, while in theory I think this works better, because it's a pain switching to the stylus in the middle of the game, but in Super Mario 64 DS when I use my fingers to rotate the camera on the map screen sometimes, it makes the screen all smudged and dirty and I have to spend 5 seconds wiping the screen after which is even more of a hassle. What do you guys think about this?
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Noble~Feather on April 06, 2005, 07:39:26 PM
The only thing that scares me of this game is the fact that it's [supposedly] been in development since December 2004. And since it's appearently coming out this year in Japan, I just hope it doesn't turn out crappy.
On another note... VJ for PSP is a port... lol.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Mario on April 06, 2005, 08:04:41 PM
How do you know that? Just because it was announced then doesn't mean that's when they started developing it...
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: thepoga on April 06, 2005, 08:14:51 PM
yeah, its not a port...
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: vudu on April 07, 2005, 09:10:23 AM
Quote in Super Mario 64 DS when I use my fingers to rotate the camera on the map screen sometimes, it makes the screen all smudged and dirty and I have to spend 5 seconds wiping the screen after which is even more of a hassle. What do you guys think about this?
I think you should wash your hands more often.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: couchmonkey on April 07, 2005, 12:32:05 PM
For every five seconds you spend cleaning your DS screen, you'd probably spend a couple of minutes watching loading screens on the PSP. (sorry, couldn't resist). Viewtiful Joe on DS makes me happy! I'm surprised at how much support Capcom is giving this series - I didn't think it was that popular. The first did well, but not that well, and the second game bombed...still, I can't complain because I'm very interested in this game.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: thepoga on April 07, 2005, 01:37:43 PM
i really like the way the DS screen is designed. I can't see smudges (or the really small scratches) at all when the system is on.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Noble~Feather on April 07, 2005, 09:59:22 PM
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Babyboy8100 on April 07, 2005, 10:15:09 PM
you know i never actually gave VJ a chance and now that its coming to the DS its looking more interesting than before i like the way they doing the graphic style like in the GC. can wait for VJ to be released
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 07, 2005, 10:47:26 PM
Wow... they seem to have pulled off the graphics quite nicely.
I hope the framerate isn't shot to heck though.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Kirby (cheat wizard) on April 07, 2005, 11:29:03 PM
Touch! Scrach! whats next Lick?!?
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 08, 2005, 12:40:20 AM
No, saliva would probably damage something.
You forgot Rub, by the way.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Deguello on April 08, 2005, 01:17:32 AM
Hey this'll use the control pad and the buttons! Ian, get in here quick! Lavish praise on a game in the traditional style! And then somehow make this into bad news! Hurry!
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Ian Sane on April 08, 2005, 07:07:22 AM
Actually I was going to question why Joe is looking at his feet in every screenshot.
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 08, 2005, 08:17:15 AM
Checking to see if his shoelaces are tied.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: vudu on April 08, 2005, 08:50:36 AM
You played the first one--you should know that's his stance.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: nickmitch on April 08, 2005, 02:08:32 PM
Did you ever think that looking at your feet is just cool?
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Mario on April 09, 2005, 07:18:07 AM
Holy crap! It looks so awesome in these new screens!
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: darknight06 on April 09, 2005, 07:46:25 AM
Wow, I didn't expect it to look this good. I knew it had cel-shading in hardware, but I didn't know to what extent until now!
Wait a minute, are those backgrounds actually 3D themselves?
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 09, 2005, 08:54:31 AM
Seems like it... look at the police car.
Is that Alastor under Joe?
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: IceCold on April 09, 2005, 01:58:40 PM
Wow, those screens are viewtiful..
Sorry, couldn't resist, although I admit it's the worst joke to grace these forums in a while
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Dasmos on April 09, 2005, 05:01:40 PM
Yes it is! Alastor is so cool
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Mario on April 09, 2005, 06:32:44 PM
I like how it makes good use of the top screen by showing it zoomed in and whatever VFX you're doing up there, nice touch.
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Arbok on April 09, 2005, 07:00:58 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario Holy crap! It looks so awesome in these new screens!
Simply awesome, this game has jumped onto my most wanted list for the DS... well alongside Advance Wars 2, of course. Thanks for the pic Mario.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: darknight06 on April 09, 2005, 08:28:58 PM
"I like how it makes good use of the top screen by showing it zoomed in and whatever VFX you're doing up there, nice touch."
If this game follows the general development rule of the DS, I'm willing to put money on this game having a 30fps cap on both screens.
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: altf4 on April 11, 2005, 05:36:05 PM
Between this and Katamri Damacy, I think we've found a new gaming overlord.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Robotor on April 12, 2005, 04:53:23 PM
Scratch has to be the worst "touch" based subtitle ever. I mean, instead of touching the sceen we scratch it? Scratch the screen, oh god! I can't possibly buy this game now that I know I must scratch my screen. O_o
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on April 12, 2005, 04:58:46 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kirby (cheat wizard) Touch! Scrach! whats next Lick?!?
feel the maxic?
project rub (which was feel the magic but whatever)
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Nile Boogie on April 12, 2005, 05:26:08 PM
I would rather have scrolling backgrounds and better animation then 3d backgrounds and Joe missing frames. I'm drunk with glee at the thought of a portable viewtiful. Drunk I say!!!
By the By, if you put the Ds on one of those neck keychains(Lanyard?) it make one helluva fasion statement, well at least up here in the P/H/I/L/L/Y.
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Post by: Miyamoto Osaki on April 12, 2005, 05:41:18 PM
Im going to try to import the game from Japan, my friend game me a DS from Japan so that i can import games from japan when they just come out, heck it cost alot.
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: IceCold on April 12, 2005, 06:01:23 PM
Don't worry - they'll change the title for the rest of the world.
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: vudu on April 13, 2005, 08:57:44 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Miyamoto Osaki Im going to try to import the game from Japan, my friend game me a DS from Japan so that i can import games from japan when they just come out, heck it cost alot.
You do realize that DS games are region-free, right? You can play any DS game on any DS system.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: darknight06 on April 13, 2005, 11:00:38 AM
"I would rather have scrolling backgrounds and better animation then 3d backgrounds and Joe missing frames."
Joe is 3D, not sprite based. There's no reason for anything to have missing frames because it's not even done frame by frame. I just said the game will probably play at only 30fps if it uses both screens for 3D like I'm seeing it here.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Nile Boogie on April 15, 2005, 04:28:55 AM
"Joe is 3D, not sprite based. There's no reason for anything to have missing frames because it's not even done frame by frame. I just said the game will probably play at only 30fps if it uses both screens for 3D like I'm seeing it here."
I'm talking bout the DS Joe, I know the console version of Joe is 3D but I wasn't too sure that it could be done on the DS without changing joe to a 2D sprite. I don't know too much about how much ram is in the Ds and the graphical powers of the system so I was just saying. Thought maybe it would tax the system too much. I hope they don't pukcuf this game. My hopes are starting to fade...
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Mario on April 15, 2005, 04:58:52 AM
So the screenshots were so awesome that you're starting to doubt the games graphics? Okay.
I don't think slowdown is even possible on the DS, the framerate will be fine
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: KDR_11k on April 15, 2005, 06:02:44 AM
Nile: They wouldn't use what looks like gouraud shading with sharp falloff for sprites.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: darknight06 on April 15, 2005, 06:46:35 AM
"I'm talking bout the DS Joe, I know the console version of Joe is 3D but I wasn't too sure that it could be done on the DS without changing joe to a 2D sprite"
Well, you did know that the DS has cel-shading capabilities in hardware right?
"I don't think slowdown is even possible on the DS, the framerate will be fine" *cough*RAYMANDS*cough*DCStudios*cough* Now granted I don't think Capcom's gonna screw things up like that.
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 15, 2005, 10:17:03 AM
Also lets no forget there are LOAD TIMES in Rayman DS this is the 2nd game on a cart I have seen load times and both games are published by UbiSoft. If your wondering they are Rayman DS and Chessmaster on the GBA.
Anyways this game should squelch people who think that the DS isn't capable of stellar graphics. And I have high hopes of this game since I enjoyed VJ1 and 2 on the Cube, also I am confident with Clover as the developer.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Noble~Feather on May 16, 2005, 02:51:00 PM
Appearantly DS can handle 3D on 2 screens at once, very well at that.
Title: RE:Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 16, 2005, 03:09:52 PM
NICE!!! I guess clover has a grasp on the graphical capabilities of the DS this looks really really great. And considering VJ is one of my fav franchises I can see myself buying this and VJ:VFX power battles on the gamecube.
Title: RE: Scratch! Viewtiful Joe
Post by: darknight06 on May 16, 2005, 05:33:21 PM
Those are some nice models, I didn't expect it to look like that! I still have to question what the framerate's gonna be on this though...